Mux 2 Launched / Saorview Rescan Required

Where are we living? On the day of the re-tune they announce the re-tune?

In relation to the few channels available there are a number of Irish services that could have launched on Soarview had they been given some support and appeared on other platforms. IMO at least 15 new services. Even for a small country Soarview is bad IMO.

In relation to my figures I quickly said to myself that RTÉ TV had 6 out 9 SD spaces, TV3 had 2 and TG4 had 1 and I divided by 9 to give me the figures I got for the example. Either way any spare capacity is paid for by the broadcasters and 2RN are paid in full for Mux 1 and 2, which was the real point.

The Cush wrote: »

No DOG on display on Morning Edition.

News programming never has a DOG/BUG on RTÉ, except Prime Time but I think that is because its Current Affairs!

Notice the New RTE1+1 is now actually broadcasting the "This channel is currently off air" caption as opposed to the MHEG5 message, presumably because of the additional spectrum available?

The Cush wrote: »

Dept of Communications approval required, the extra RTÉ channels are up for review by mid 2014.

I would say it will be down to rights issues more than dcenr's review or approval.

Paddy C wrote: »

So, has RTÉ ONE HD actually launched then, or is it still a test that could be pulled at any time. Don't wanna go changing channels around in my custom EPG if it's gonna be changed!

Softest of launches get ready for another 2 re-tunes for TV3 and TG4

Does seem a bit of a mess though! The pic quality was much better on RTE1 this morning. Surprised TG4 hasn't made the switch as they are already distributing a HD feed.

Even if nothing is in HD yet, the improved resolution and bit rate means a better viewing experience over the SD channel so I can take that for now. Maybe RTÉ ONE HD and TG 4 HD are launching at the same time in January? I don't think we're gonna see TV 3 HD for quite some time...

On the test cards with radio sound, if you select the narrative audio, you get test-tone.

The Cush wrote: »

Saorview's Brian Geraghty said on Morning Ireland that RTÉ 1 HD will be coming in the new year, actual HD content I'd guess.

It took RTÉ2 almost 6 months to broadcast true HD content from the time it launched.

So why not upscale TG4 and TV3 to avoid another rescan down the road?

Notice how they didn't move TG4, TV3 and 3e to mux 2 but Digital Aertel is on both muxes.

Is Aertel showing its logo for other people?

Peter Rhea wrote: »

15 new services?!

Are people like myself, who see 'Saorview' on receiving equipment simply as a mark of compliance with the broadcast standard, rather than as a promise of exciting new free entertainment, are we in a minority?

I think the mark of compliance is just part of DTT. One of the digital dividend which was talked about was the addition of more TV services and HD services. Okay we have HD services and a better picture but no real additional TV services.

Since DSO/ASO both Sky and UPC have seen increases in numbers taking up their pay digital service (we are in a minority who know you can get FTA sat channels including BBC, ITV, C4 etc, many consider that to be legal and refer to it as Dodgyboxes!?!). And an increase in advertising revenue going to more opt-out services.

We have a duopoly in PayTV broadcasting (UPC and Sky) and a duopoly in FreeTV (RTÉ and TV3) I don't think that is good.

At least 15 free services even if some at this stage failed, I am not expecting hours of amazing programming (I don't see that on 5USA OR 5* or many of the FTA repeat channels available). For a small country we did not develop digital TV at all there is no reason not to have another broadcaster or that TG4 would have other TV services. RTÉ plan in there 5 year plan to launch several genre specific channels over IP along with Soarview Anytime. Why not launch them on all digital platforms, because the are constrained by the Broadcasting Act 2009 (note how RTÉ Plus didn't get off the air, how they need ministerial permission to move RTÉjr off RTÉ TWO and as The Cush point out how they need ministerial permission to have RTÉ 1+1 go out for 24 hours).

From the beginning Soarview should have launched with two Muxes so that all channels could be received in the highest quality picture available but also to introduce new services not just the same old same old. I'd even suggest that Mux 3 should already be available with new services.

What happened the Irish Film Board Channel, Oireachtas TV and Community TV on Soarview? Even if it was just +1 as suggested by TV3 and TG4 and later on the suggestions of Cula4, 3Classics and other services from those broadcasters. Why not launch an Irish Music channel? These are not hugely expensive channels to launch, and your right they probably would not be much use. But they'd be allot better than wasted spectrum on Mux 1 and 2.

1. RTÉ ONE HD - Mux 1
2. RTÉ TWO HD - Mux 1
3. TG4 HD - Mux 2
4. TV3 HD - Mux 3
5. 3E - Mux 3
6. RTÉ PLUS - Mux 1
7. RTÉ ONE +1 - Mux 1
8. TV3 +1 - Mux 3
9. TG4 +1 - Mux 2
10. RTÉ NEWS NOW (PROPER) - Mux 1
11. Oireachtas TV - Mux 2
12. Irish Film Board Channel - Mux 2
13. 3classics -Mux 3
14. Cula 4 - Mux 2
15. RTÉjr - Mux 1
16. 3Kids - Mux 3
17. Community TV - Mux 2

MUX 1 - 2 HD, 3 SD
MUX 2 - 1 HD, 6 SD
MUX 3 - 1 HD, 4 SD

And sure how about some shopping channels and indo radio stations to pay for that extra space.

It's strange to see RTEjr is using more bandwidth than RTE1 HD on Mux 2
RTEjr using 21% of Mux capaticy, RTE1HD using 17%

EIT info now for RTE1, RTEjr and RTE1+1 on Mux 2

No EIT for RTE1, RTEjr and RTE1+1 on Mux 1, so I guess these channels are hidden on Saorview approved certified and Ireland setting TV and STB.