Battlefield 4 [aaaarrrghhh bitching and moaning]

Mad_Dave · 21-11-2013 5:17pm

logik wrote: »

Along with a 200MB+ download for PS3 and 360.

Nope, xbox only. PS4 taking precedence over PS3 now, just as XB1 will when it's released. Not holding my breath for current gen patches anytime soon unfortunately.

ZiabR · 21-11-2013 5:39pm

Official Announcement:

Update #16 (Nov 21-2)
X360 Game Update Live
We released a new game update for Battlefield 4 on X360 today (nov 21). When you start up your game, you should get a notification asking if you want to take the update. Clocking in at ~260MB, this Multiplayer Update has a few stability improvements and crash fixes, coupled with miscellaneous minor tweaks. We will get back to you later with a more detailed patch note for this update. In the meantime, let us know in the comments how this update is working for you.

We will continue to update the game on all platforms to increase stability. Stay tuned for more information as we have it.

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All user feedback on the BF forums indicate that this patch did nothing, game is the same as yesterday.

Oh and check this out, EA are in trouble...

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-06-21-stock-ticker-why-eas-market-valuation-has-crashed

Mad_Dave · 21-11-2013 5:56pm

Old article, the stock price drop shown has recovered since. EA's actually doing quite well with strong Q2 profits this year. Although I believe they won't end the year quite as strongly as predicted due to lower than predicted BF4 sales.

ZiabR · 21-11-2013 6:03pm

Mad_Dave wrote: »

Old article, the stock price drop shown has recovered since. EA's actually doing quite well with strong Q2 profits this year. Although I believe they won't end the year quite as strongly as predicted due to lower than predicted BF4 sales.

Sorry, I somehow posted the wrong link.
Here is the correct one.

http://www.hardwarepal.com/ea-stocks-nosedive-due-battlefield-4-sales-decrease/

Hellrazer · 21-11-2013 8:58pm

This is doing my head in.

I keep getting the message to update the browser plugin(IE11)
I download it,install it and then the next time I try to play I get the same message.Its a continuing loop.

Im not mad about Chrome but its the only way I can get a game in!!!!!

Spear · 21-11-2013 9:02pm

Firefox did something similar due the recent addition of plugin unloading system. I don't think IE has something similar.

Dcully · 21-11-2013 10:07pm

Still fcuking crashing, what an absolute joke.

Ronan|Raven · 21-11-2013 11:08pm

I have never had as many crashes as I have had tonight, 5 games 4 crashes, black screen flashing cursor and back to desktop.

*****

dreamers75 · 21-11-2013 11:55pm

unplayable for me tonight, didnt complete a round and gave up.

KD went from 1.25 to 1.24

jonski · 22-11-2013 1:57am

Played from 9:30 until 12 o clock and not one crash

What was with the extra bonus tonight at the end of each round ?

The last round I played netted me just shy of 100,000 points

TheFairy · 22-11-2013 9:19am

dreamers75 wrote: »

KD went from 1.25 to 1.24

Is that all, on HC servers? Should be multiples?

Drexel · 22-11-2013 10:28am

Gotta say, I love emptying a whole clip into someones back only for them to turn around and kill me no bother with a couple of bullets. Then I die and see they have 100 health. Delightful

Sparks · 22-11-2013 12:45pm

See, there's the problem, you're shooting them in the back. Why aren't you knifing them in the back instead?

Hit detect this, *expletive deleted* :pac:

wandatowell · 22-11-2013 1:00pm

Things got messy last night :cool:

Crashes every game, same thing this morning.

It was fine for me for the last week or 2 but its a mess......again.

GET YOUR **** TOGETHER!!!

dreamers75 · 22-11-2013 1:30pm

TheFairy wrote: »

Is that all, on HC servers? Should be multiples?

I PTFO

karma_ · 22-11-2013 2:03pm

dreamers75 wrote: »

I PTFO

Dcully · 22-11-2013 2:49pm

Yet another issue,its gone beyond laughable at this stage.
Its getting like sim city which has almost completely tarnished the reputation of a once great dev team Maxis thanks to their involvement with EA.

We are seeing it yet again here with BF4 and DICE ,EA pushing the game out the door and DICE openly admitting the game was not ready for release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vDOC1V6GM8

Timmyctc · 22-11-2013 3:15pm

Ah here. Its not like the Sim City debacle whatsoever. And I wouldnt go as far as saying Maxis' name is tarnished. Sure don't they still sell tonnes of Sim dlc Shíte :pac: The game is unfinished. Sadly loads of games released nowadays are unfinished. Consoles released are unfinished. Deadlines are valued over quality. That above issue is minor imo in comparison to the lack of a server queue or ability to squad up in the main menu, in a game aimed at those who value teamwork and communication. A bug where you might die from being shot in the head (fair fatal imo) is somewhat medicore.

Dcully · 22-11-2013 3:22pm

Timmyctc wrote: »

Ah here. Its not like the Sim City debacle whatsoever. And I wouldnt go as far as saying Maxis' name is tarnished. Sure don't they still sell tonnes of Sim dlc Shíte :pac: The game is unfinished. Sadly loads of games released nowadays are unfinished. Consoles released are unfinished. Deadlines are valued over quality. That above issue is minor imo in comparison to the lack of a server queue or ability to squad up in the main menu, in a game aimed at those who value teamwork and communication. A bug where you might die from being shot in the head (fair fatal imo) is somewhat medicore.

maxis is well and truely tarnished, go check out how bad the sim city expansion is doing.
Granted as you say its not as bad as the sim city debacle but the state this game was released in is a joke.

I dont see the issue in the video a minor issue at all, its a multiplayer game ofcourse a 1 shot kill bug is a big issue,how can it not be?
Add that issue to the many others and it paints a pretty damning picture does it not?
btw there is a server queue.

So the method to how players kill/die in a multiplayer game which essentially is about killing your opponents is a minor issue? :eek:

Timmyctc · 22-11-2013 3:31pm

Dcully wrote: »

maxis is well and truely tarnished, go check out how bad the sim city expansion is doing.
Granted as you say its not as bad as the sim city debacle but the state this game was released in is a joke.

I dont see the issue in the video a minor issue at all, its a multiplayer game ofcourse a 1 shot kill bug is a big issue,how can it not be?
Add that issue to the many others and it paints a pretty damning picture does it not?
btw there is a server queue.

So the method to how players kill/die in a multiplayer game which essentially is about killing your opponents is a minor issue? :eek:

I said the Sims dlc not Sim City. I consider that Sim City to be a write off altogether. I'd still play their Sims series.
No Server queue on Console. I consider that a bug sometimes causes people to die from headshots from <8 yards away to be minor. I never understood why players survived 2-3 headshots anyways.

fergus1001 · 22-11-2013 5:58pm

Timmyctc wrote: »

I said the Sims dlc not Sim City. I consider that Sim City to be a write off altogether. I'd still play their Sims series.
No Server queue on Console. I consider that a bug sometimes causes people to die from headshots from <8 yards away to be minor. I never understood why players survived 2-3 headshots anyways.

Head shot = brown bread

End of line, finito, kaput, ostalavista baby

TheFullDuck · 22-11-2013 7:03pm

being killed by an AA vehicle while on foot is infuriating. They should patch it so the cannon isnt able to lower to an infantry angle, if that makes sense

dreamers75 · 22-11-2013 7:13pm

TheFullDuck wrote: »

being killed by an AA vehicle while on foot is infuriating. They should patch it so the cannon isnt able to lower to an infantry angle, if that makes sense

I would just drive onto an angle to get it to point down.

Love mowing me down some infantry with the 30mm cannons :pac:

Sparks · 22-11-2013 7:15pm

TheFullDuck wrote: »

being killed by an AA vehicle while on foot is infuriating. They should patch it so the cannon isnt able to lower to an infantry angle, if that makes sense

Then we'd just run up to it and C4/M2 it.

Tazzimus · 22-11-2013 7:21pm

TheFullDuck wrote: »

being killed by an AA vehicle while on foot is infuriating. They should patch it so the cannon isnt able to lower to an infantry angle, if that makes sense

It can still move, I'd just run you over. Always funny getting roadkills in something so slow as that.

Also the AA gun takes AGES to kill infantry with the normal cannons, it's quite easy to avoid.
Normal cannons - Air vehicles= shreds, infantry=blows feathers at them.

ShadowHearth · 22-11-2013 9:34pm

Okay, I am not going even talk about crashes. I am taking them as part of the Experience playing BF4. Its like having those War-shock Moments, where soldiers going in to panic and brain crash.

The other thing really starts to get on my tits. Is there some increase in server lag or net code became even worse lately? I am getting shot all eveninging half a second. Some huge ranges and I get a few hits at enemy witm LMG and then bang - I am dead, shot by assault rifle, as like in one shot or something....

Now is it me, or BF4 is already in that stage where people became way too awesome and wipe the floors by casuals like me? I am getting completely ass raped. I cant even get positive scores. I was hoping I will be able to play at least few months before I get team Tea-bagged in each match.

Spear · 22-11-2013 11:13pm

One omission that bugs me a little, is that a lot of the game is treated too seriously by Dice. In BC2 I could unlock a Garand and Thompson, like the good ol' days of 1942, and I preceded to teach a lot of people what classic weapon like the Garand can do. But there's no lighter or human touch like that present currently.

ShadowHearth · 23-11-2013 12:59am

Spear wrote: »

One omission that bugs me a little, is that a lot of the game is treated too seriously by Dice. In BC2 I could unlock a Garand and Thompson, like the good ol' days of 1942, and I preceded to teach a lot of people what classic weapon like the Garand can do. But there's no lighter or human touch like that present currently.

Ah man, I remember Thompson! That was such an Awesome touch by dice. I am not even talking about awesome Vietnam.

I wish they would bring some Classic AK, Thompson, Classic M14 etc.

tim3000 · 23-11-2013 1:52am

Ran into the #1 highest scoring player on BF3 (360)on this last night. Playing conquest on Lancang Dam, got his tags yeahhhh

Cuddlesworth · 24-11-2013 1:34am

ShadowHearth wrote: »

The other thing really starts to get on my tits. Is there some increase in server lag or net code became even worse lately? I am getting shot all eveninging half a second. Some huge ranges and I get a few hits at enemy witm LMG and then bang - I am dead, shot by assault rifle, as like in one shot or something....

Seems to be a bug where a headshot = instadeath around 50% of the time, regardless of weapon, distance etc. Annoying and something that's been picked up on by the community.

dreamers75 · 24-11-2013 2:32am

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Seems to be a bug where a headshot = instadeath around 50% of the time, regardless of weapon, distance etc. Annoying and something that's been picked up on by the community.

A headshot is instadeath.....whats wrong with that?

I only play on hardcore servers and a shot is instadeath pretty much all of the time. Battlefield got gay with the normal servers, unload a clip into someone and they turn around and shoot you.......gay.

Timmyctc · 24-11-2013 2:37am

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Seems to be a bug where a headshot = instadeath around 50% of the time, regardless of weapon, distance etc. Annoying and something that's been picked up on by the community.

pretty sure its not regardless of weapon or distance. it needs to be close by does it not

joe123 · 24-11-2013 2:43am

Dcully wrote: »

Yet another issue,its gone beyond laughable at this stage.
Its getting like sim city which has almost completely tarnished the reputation of a once great dev team Maxis thanks to their involvement with EA.

We are seeing it yet again here with BF4 and DICE ,EA pushing the game out the door and DICE openly admitting the game was not ready for release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vDOC1V6GM8

Wow sometimes getting shot in the head can kill you with one bullet. Who would have thought it. ****ing gamers man. Wreck my head they do sometimes. (no offence Dcully but come on)

fergus1001 · 24-11-2013 2:57am

Timmyctc wrote: »

pretty sure its not regardless of weapon or distance. it needs to be close by does it not

If it's supposed to be realistic headshot = kaput, if you were shot in the face at 1 meter or 20 would you walk away? if people want protection from headshots go play an arcade shooter like halo or what ever the kids are playing

And also I hate when you fire a tank shell at someones feet and they live to tell the tale

Sparks · 24-11-2013 3:26am

Ah here lads, if I wanted that much realism when shooting people in the face, I don't think the Gardai would be all that happy about me having firearms licences

Dcully · 24-11-2013 11:48am

joe123 wrote: »

Wow sometimes getting shot in the head can kill you with one bullet. Who would have thought it. ****ing gamers man. Wreck my head they do sometimes. (no offence Dcully but come on)

So im wrong to highlight the issue and so are countless well respected youtubers and streamers?
The point is the max damage to the head as planned by DICE should be 50 which is 25X2 given the damage multiplier they add for a head shot.
It is clearly not working as intended.

Personally i think a headshot should be instant death on normal or noobcore modes.

The point of the video above is to highlight that its yet another issue with the game that doesnt work.
I fail to see why im so wrong to agree with them for highlighting it :rolleyes:

Timmyctc · 24-11-2013 11:54am

Dcully wrote: »

So im wrong to highlight the issue and so are countless well respected youtubers and streamers?
The point is the max damage to the head as planned by DICE should be 50 which is 25X2 given the damage multiplier they add for a head shot.
It is clearly not working as intended.

Personally i think a headshot should be instant death on normal or noobcore modes.

The point of the video above is to highlight that its yet another issue with the game that doesnt work.
I fail to see why im so wrong to agree with them for highlighting it :rolleyes:

Its grand to highlight. Clearly its a bug. A minor one though. If people are complaining "HAX he shot me in the head and i died!" its a minor issue. Whether its intended to only take off as much as two shots to the leg or not. The major issues are the crashes and the lack of ability to squad up along with the lack of a server queue in consoles.

Theres highlighting the issue then theres the implication that its a much larger issue than it actually is. I'd be happy if they fixed 1001 things before they patched this.

Dcully · 24-11-2013 12:36pm

Timmyctc wrote: »

Its grand to highlight. Clearly its a bug. A minor one though. If people are complaining "HAX he shot me in the head and i died!" its a minor issue. Whether its intended to only take off as much as two shots to the leg or not. The major issues are the crashes and the lack of ability to squad up along with the lack of a server queue in consoles.

Theres highlighting the issue then theres the implication that its a much larger issue than it actually is. I'd be happy if they fixed 1001 things before they patched this.

Agreed, the crashing, the sound bug ,the random blurring are all bigger issues to me.

tim3000 · 24-11-2013 6:09pm

I thought of a fast way of ranking up in this. As is every time you get 100 kills with a weapon you get a service star (worth 2000 xp). My plan is to spend a bit of time with various weapons getting 99 kills, say a dozen weapons. Then turn on my highest boost from the battlepacks, a 200% one. Then spend a round getting the 100th kill with these weapons thus giving me the service star and a 2000 xp bonus plus a 200% increase giving you a total of 6000 xp per weapon for one kill with it.

Cuddlesworth · 24-11-2013 7:30pm

dreamers75 wrote: »

I only play on hardcore servers and a shot is instadeath pretty much all of the time. Battlefield got gay with the normal servers, unload a clip into someone and they turn around and shoot you.......gay.

Or you could you know, actually aim and hit them.

The game engine is designed for fun, not realism. If you want realism, I'd expect my character to piss himself every time a tank appears in front of me. Or to cower in fear when pretty much anything opens up on him.

5uspect · 24-11-2013 9:08pm

What's that? A round where you actually felt your gun fired the same bullets as everyone else? And where you didn't die the second someone looked your direction? You even got a multikill taking out a littlebird with an RPG?

Aren't you due a crash? :mad:

DTA338 · 24-11-2013 10:18pm

If you are the pilot of a helicopter is it too much to ask that you be able to fly it? Transport helos especially. ''Whats this, I have four other players in my chopper? I think I will fly it into this building.'' Really starting to get on my tits. There is a practice area. Go f*cking practice.

TheFairy · 24-11-2013 10:51pm

Bar little episodes of lag, I havent had the sound bug or a crash in over a week now? My only issue is the inbalance in the game, but that should be sorted over patches.

Sparks · 25-11-2013 3:15am

I do wish we had more than the one profile for each class. I find I either play as the air engineer (with repair tool and stingers to ride in helos or fly them); or as the anti-armour engineer with the SRAW and M2. Likewise with recon it's either recon or sniper, with different kit for both. Having more than the one profile for each class would make it less of a hassle swapping stuff in and out in the first few moments of the game while everyone else gets off the loading screen and starts taking flags. Maybe someone will write something that will use the battlelog site to load in new profiles and they'd be picked up by the game?

dreamers75 · 25-11-2013 10:01am

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Or you could you know, actually aim and hit them.

The game engine is designed for fun, not realism. If you want realism, I'd expect my character to piss himself every time a tank appears in front of me. Or to cower in fear when pretty much anything opens up on him.

Ahh yes Aim.....hit ....then watch them run off and regen health on foot or in a vehicle.

Its a video game about a war not a Fairy Simulator.

Grumpypants · 25-11-2013 11:25am

Play on servers with health regen switched off.

ZiabR · 25-11-2013 12:26pm

New R12 patch released today for SERVERS affecting ALL platforms.

R12 Server Update Notes
-Fixed several of the most commonly occuring server crashes (This should benefit all platforms)
-Fixed an issue where the cruise missile in Commander Mode was not launching when playing on Paracel Storm
-Fixed so that a player's skill is no longer negatively affected when playing as Commander
-Fixed an aircraft IR flares exploit where players could use the flares multiple times before reloading by exiting/re-entering the aircraft
-Fixed an issue with Ranked servers on Xbox One running with a 1% ticket count
-Defined a range of 25%-400% for vehicle respawn delays on Ranked servers

Cuddlesworth · 25-11-2013 12:44pm

dreamers75 wrote: »

Ahh yes Aim.....hit ....then watch them run off and regen health on foot or in a vehicle.

Its a video game about a war not a Fairy Simulator.

I'm not exactly sure what your whining about. Hardcore is there, go use it.

I'm getting a little sick of TerrorFirmer, every bloody game on the Gaillords server he joins my squad.

Sparks · 25-11-2013 1:16pm

logik wrote: »

-Defined a range of 25%-400% for vehicle respawn delays on Ranked servers

Oh poop, no more instant vehicle respawn (which sucks for real games but is damn handy for grind servers to unlock vehicles).

ZiabR · 25-11-2013 1:34pm

Sparks wrote: »

Oh poop, no more instant vehicle respawn (which sucks for real games but is damn handy for grind servers to unlock vehicles).

True mate, should not affect me too much.

Battlefield 4 [aaaarrrghhh bitching and moaning]

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