Repairable Dripping Atomiser (RDA)

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 23-09-2012 9:34pm

any pics of your dual coil setup?

mesh in the rda is pretty great, real clean flavour

Green Hornet · 23-09-2012 9:41pm

stevenmu wrote: »

I need to drop nic levels again though, 11mg is blowing my head off

I've found that I needed to go up in nic (to 16mg) while I've been waiting for mine to be fixed. For some reason the RDA must be more efficient at getting the nic available. Funny thing is that even though I need higher nic I dont like the 'taste' of it though. I think higher nic overpowers the flavour a bit.

stevenmu · 23-09-2012 10:28pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

any pics of your dual coil setup?

mesh in the rda is pretty great, real clean flavour

Never thought of pics when I was making it, I'll try and get some when the juice dries up (which shouldn't take long at this rate).

It's a pretty simple setup, I just made two separate coils in the normal way, except I only used 3GF wicks instead of my normal 4GF. Put one coil in as normal, then pushed it down a little and put the other in over it.

Very easy to do, no more difficult than a standard one coil setup.

stevenmu · 23-09-2012 10:29pm

Green Hornet wrote: »

I've found that I needed to go up in nic (to 16mg) while I've been waiting for mine to be fixed. For some reason the RDA must be more efficient at getting the nic available. Funny thing is that even though I need higher nic I dont like the 'taste' of it though. I think higher nic overpowers the flavour a bit.

Yeah the RDAs sem to be great at making the most of the nic available. I'm not sure why, I think they tend to give hotter vapour so could be something to do with that.

Green Hornet · 24-09-2012 11:44am

Just got my Clockworks RDA back and whacked in a coil using kanthal and wick. Threw in some 18mg juice that I've been using on the Vivi Nova.............................nearly blew my whole head off. What a kick this thing gives!! Holy smoke! I'd forgotten how addicted to this little thing that I was and I'd forgotten how effective it is to keep me off the fags.

On another note, my flipping mesh from the mesh company still hasn't arrived. It was shipped last Monday so I thought I'd have it by now? I've sent them an email anyway.

Probably sell my Bulli A2T now. What should I ask for it I wonder? I've used it for about a week but it just wasn't for me. Paid 42 euro and 8 postage I think. I'll try it with mesh before I decide whether to sell it or not but I'm pretty sure that I'll be moving it on.

eeloe · 24-09-2012 2:44pm

Thought a couple of might be interested in this, Vision are coming out with a rebuildable fairly similar to the Bulli.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 25-09-2012 9:59pm

nevermind.. posted the exact same video a few posts up........

Green Hornet · 25-09-2012 10:34pm

I'm still waiting for my mesh to arrive. I've emailed the supplier and they said I should have it by now. If it doesn't come by the end of the week they'll send me a replacement shipment.

Green Hornet · 27-09-2012 11:23am

Mesh arrived anyway. I used a small Allen key to make the coil (6 turns) and rolled some mesh around 2 strands of wick. Put that into the pre-made coil and it seems to be working well! Probably about the same as a brand new standard coil/wick.

Edit: made up a mesh wick with no FG. This is the business! How long does a mesh wick last? I assume a long time?

Green Hornet · 28-09-2012 11:16am

Just noticed that the juice in the chamber is a kind of dirty brown colour after a day or so's use. Could be from the strawberry milkshake I suppose because it i a bit cloudy in the bottle but I HOPE that's all it is?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 28-09-2012 11:18am

in your rda?

could be from the heat, it does change the colour of some juices and mesh does get damn hot

derra · 28-09-2012 12:20pm

Most likely as a result of oxidising the mesh.

In the Line for example, there is only need to oxidise the top part of the mesh as the rest is submerged in liquid in the tank.

If ya oxidise the part of mesh that goes into the tank the liquid changes colour, if ya don't oxidise that part the liquid would more or less stay the same colour.

You have to oxidise all the mesh for the RDA so the liquid would change colour.

Green Hornet · 28-09-2012 7:22pm

Righto. Nothing to worry about then. Does it always go off colour or just when new? Doesn't affect flavour anyway.

I'm delighted with a hybrid wick. 2 strands of 1mm wick wrapped in oxidised mesh, 2.5 ohm coil.

How long will that last or is it a case of dry burning every few days and it lasting for ages?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 28-09-2012 7:36pm

no idea with hybrids.. a regular ss mesh oughta last months apparently... i guess with the mesh protecting the silica it should last almost as long?

Green Hornet · 28-09-2012 7:40pm

That's my thinking too. The wick is protected by the mesh so it should hold up well.

Green Hornet · 29-09-2012 6:51pm

I got a clear body for the Clockworks RDA. I can see how much juice is in there now so I don't need to be guessing. Only 4 euro from Clockworks.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 29-09-2012 7:10pm

does it look ****ing awesome?

I bet it looks ****ing awesome

Green Hornet · 29-09-2012 7:14pm

Looks good alright. Only thing is that my juice is constantly going dark with the mesh. Very handy to be able to see what's in there. Kind of cool looking at the mist created in there when firing too!

I've a tie wrap on it too and I move it over the hole when not using it. Seals well with the polycarbonate body actually.

Green Hornet · 08-11-2012 4:04pm

Pulled out the auld Clockworks RDA today and fitted a mesh wick and 0.2 kanthal giving 1.6 ohms.

My experiences getting the VH genesis to work came in useful and I was able to make a really good coil and wick.

I'd forgotten how good a vape it is. Forgotten how much of an animal on juice it is too.

unblvlblkult · 16-11-2012 6:18pm

Hi Folks
I decided I'd invested in a phoenix clone recently as all I seem to be using anymore is 306's. I'm having awful touble getting any kind of consistancy in performance. so many problems with it.
Firstly it leaks like a pensioner. I put an old O-ring at the bottom cennection and that's impprooved that situation a bit.
Secondly and most importantly quality and flavour of vapour is all over the place. Typicall it doesn't perform ok unless I've just filled it (10 drops say) and then only for a couple of draws after that I get ok hit followed by dry hit followed with yuck where's that metalic taste coming from. If I take the tip out the well might look close to empty but taking the body off results in the disappeared juice running down the inside of the main body and all over my fingers. it's as if the juice is climbing the walls of the main body to get away from teh coil. so frustrating wanted to see how I got on with re-buildables before investing in something nice. Any advice for me or suggestions what I might be doing wrong

Using this on a twist btw; same performance at any voltage.

Also where does one purchase wire and wick material?

Thanks!!

republic of goon · 16-11-2012 6:24pm

how are u holding it not completely horizontal?

Green Hornet · 16-11-2012 7:28pm

There's a guy based in Iteland that sells the wick. He sells it on eBay or I can get his email address for you next week. It's good quality wick actually. I think it's about 7.50 for 10m.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 16-11-2012 7:30pm

http://www.ebay.ie/sch/andrey36101/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

unblvlblkult · 18-11-2012 11:33am

republic of goon wrote: »

how are u holding it not completely horizontal?

Not at all, but surely I don't need to keep it 100% vertical either? Have kinda given up on it now and back to the 306. Very disappointed

Green Hornet · 18-11-2012 11:44am

I know I'm like a broken record but the Clockworks RDA is one of the best things I've bought vaping wise.

It's so easy to rebuild and is extremely forgiving if you are just learning. The chamber is huge and there's a heap of room to put the coil into place. It holds about 20 drops.

You can use either silica or mesh and there's never any wicking problems whatsoever.

A lot of those new dripper options out there look better visually but they are a hell of a lot more fiddly.

grindle · 18-11-2012 12:01pm

RDA seconded.

Kind of strange if the Phoenix was leaky from the start, and I found the vapour and flavour fantastic. Are you building the coil towards the airhole, and making sure to keep the airhole upwards?

When I filled it, it'd easily last for a cig's-worth.

Only problem is the movable positive post eventually becomes too movable and the connection gets fiddly with contact and leaks very slightly.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 18-11-2012 12:05pm

tbh I found the bulli a2 classic way more forgiving than the RDA

with the RDA I either got it working amazingly, or I was horribly unsatisfied with it. there was no middle ground

ill have to send it back to clockworkds to get repaired, but ill leaver it till the new year.. hes probably swamped with xmas stuff atm and i'd rather it not get forgotten about

Green Hornet · 18-11-2012 1:22pm

Funny thing is that I couldn't get the Bulli Classic working at all.....it's gas isn't it?

stevenmu · 18-11-2012 1:32pm

I've found the airhole position on Clockworks RDA very unforgiving. Tweaking that even a tiny amount can make the difference between a mediocre vape and an amazing one.

unblvlblkult · 18-11-2012 1:42pm

Haven't re-built yet tbh just using coil it came with. Keep hole upwards that's good to know. Not really leaking from there tho. Leak is where main body screws into base or just above. There is a slight gap there must get the pliers out and give it a quick squeeze

grindle · 18-11-2012 2:25pm

unblvlblkult wrote: »

Haven't re-built yet tbh just using coil it came with. Keep hole upwards that's good to know. Not really leaking from there tho. Leak is where main body screws into base or just above. There is a slight gap there must get the pliers out and give it a quick squeeze

Jesus, rebuild it. The coil that came with mine was one of the worst things I've ever tasted. Ever.

I'd plump for an O-ring before pliers - if anything gets damaged things might snowball.
Plus with an O-ring you can position the airhole in front of the coil properly. The threads on these clones tend not to line up perfectly with where the coil goes.

unblvlblkult · 18-11-2012 5:13pm

Ok so re--build is a must first off. Must get materials so. What wire is best for something in the 1.8-2.4 Ohm range (3-4 winds to a coil would it be?) gap occurs between threaded inner sleeve and outer sleeve of main body. Hard to describe exactly. Will have a look at it properly before ding anything drastic though.
Thanks for the advice.

Green Hornet · 18-11-2012 5:29pm

Use the link given by Digby for the wick. It's good stuff and 10m will last you for months and months. Believe it or not though, you will actually run out at some stage! You'll get next day delivery on it.

I don't think he supplies wire though. I got some 0.2 and 0.15 kanthal with my Bulli but it would be too expensive to buy it from Bulli with the shipping cost. I think wires.co.uk supply wire and cheap. If you're stuck I can send you a bit of 0.15 to get you started? I tend to use mostly 0.2 these days cos I think it gives better flavour.......might be all in my head though.

I'd probably start with 5 turns. Heat the wire with a lighter before winding. It takes some of the springiness out. Use 4 strands of wick and a thin needle to support the wick and wind the wire 4 or 5 turns around the wick. Make sure it's wound fairly tight. If not it will not be in contact with the wick when you take the pin out after attaching to the atty and the flavour will be off. This should be okay as a starting point and you can try different amounts of wick or turns until you find what suits you after that.

It would be great if some of the Irish suppliers would start to sell wick and wire but the market probably wouldn't support it yet.

grindle · 18-11-2012 6:27pm

unblvlblkult wrote: »

Must get materials so. What wire is best for something in the 1.8-2.4 Ohm range (3-4 winds to a coil would it be?)

I've some .15 Kanthal if you want to PM your address, but it's not ideal for low ohm builds.

3.25cm makes a 2.4ohm coil. I barely managed to squeeze three coils out of it just there - not much leg-room.
.20 Kanthal would be ideal as you'd have 5cm to play with to make a 2ohm coil.

I'd save the money on wick by using cotton pads.

Edit:Weird boards spaz-out. Straaaannnnnnge.

unblvlblkult · 18-11-2012 7:20pm

Thanks so much folks for all the advice. Will look into ordering that stuff now.

unblvlblkult · 18-11-2012 11:53pm

Any of these suitable wire?

http://radionics.rs-online.com/web/p/multicore-industrial-cable/7496335

http://www.maplin.co.uk/28swg-resistance-wire-2196

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 19-11-2012 12:18am

http://electra-pipes.com/en/16-mesh-kanthal-glass-fiber

wire here

wick there too but never used it so can't comment on what it's like

nichrome/kanthal is pretty much nichrome/kanthal wherever you get it

grindle · 19-11-2012 1:32am

Or from this guy.

That Maplins stuff is copper, and copper is meant to be bad for our needs. Poisonalicious.

heliguyheliguy · 25-11-2012 10:34am

I'll second this guy, very fast delivery

http://myworld.ebay.ie/www.zivipf.de.vu/&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2754

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 25-11-2012 11:13am

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Kanthal-A-resistance-heating-wire-0-15mm-0-006-AWG-34-high-quality-/221139123193?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&var=520116502347&hash=item337ceb3bf9#ht_1028wt_910

found this guy last night

100metres of kanthal .15mm for about 17 posted

rofl, nevermind. same guy the two of you just linked

unblvlblkult · 30-11-2012 9:43pm

Good price.

Think I just irreparably broke my phoenix atty

It took a knock and now it seems one of the posts is loose(ish). Post is connected to the battery connection and the battery connection is pushed in a little. Is it broke for good or can I recover it?

Green Hornet · 23-12-2012 5:49pm

How the hell does Todd on UKV do it?? He made a U mesh for Clockworks RDA in about 6 minutes and when he fired it up all turns were evenly glowing, straight away. Now I can occasionally get that bit but they go bad when putting the top on and I end up poking until its right but his stay perfect. His mesh looked great too with no kinks at all.

I eventually got it right with the U mesh as well and it gives an excellent vape I must say.

He must be a Mage or something......every single time he 'cobbles' something together its perfect.

Edit: Actually, if you cut the mesh diagonally it won't kink at all. Lovely shape now.

heliguyheliguy · 31-12-2012 8:49pm

unblvlblkult wrote: »

Good price.

Think I just irreparably broke my phoenix atty
It took a knock and now it seems one of the posts is loose(ish). Post is connected to the battery connection and the battery connection is pushed in a little. Is it broke for good or can I recover it?

I find the Phoenix does that, if you just push the post down firmly the battery contact will move back out. I often have to do this just switching pv.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 05-01-2013 10:19pm

just bought an rda from elbow

this thread is in for another round of pain

tommy2bad · 06-01-2013 2:30am

Indeed it is, tonight I thought about having another go with the gennie. I must be drunk or a glutton for punishment.
This time I'm going to plat the wire and then use the double strand to make a coil, or something.
Let ye know around dinnertime tomorrow, I would do it now but shes in the mood

was.deevey · 06-01-2013 11:03am

I wouldn't double up the coil completely, just the wire from the top post to wick and about 1/2 way around the top coil - rest of the coil should work perfect.

Wind the coil entirely round the wick as many coils as you need before inserting and fastening, IMHO really is the easiest way.

After that it should be a breeze

And after trying a batch of .20 I much prefer .22 kathal - much less prone to hot spots, so easier to setup and tastes fantastic every time even on an unregulated 18350 mod.

Green Hornet · 06-01-2013 11:15am

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

just bought an rda from elbow

this thread is in for another round of pain

Thought you already had one? Have to say, although I use the Bulli pretty much most of the time, the RDA gives the best flavour of any other device that I've ever tried.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 06-01-2013 11:21am

i have one but I broke it (twice). was never arsed sending it back to be repaired

would have cost more than it did to get elbows second hand one i'd say

heliguyheliguy · 06-01-2013 11:30am

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i have one but I broke it (twice). was never arsed sending it back to be repaired

would have cost more than it did to get elbows second hand one i'd say

where can I buy one, have searched the web and can't find prices anywhere.

heliguyheliguy · 06-01-2013 11:38am

bulli classic a2 on the way with drip tip adapter.

the used ebaron pro is dead easy to set up and tastes great.
might swap for a spiral if anyone is interested; as i don't have a provarl and have no plans to get one (though who knows) would it be weird to get one just to match the pro?

Repairable Dripping Atomiser (RDA)

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