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  • #1202
    Capri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Capri


    Section_4 wrote: »
    E90 BMW M5s are electronically limited to 155mph. That electronic limiter can be removed with a very simple electronic rewriting of the cars ECU (BMW dealerships offer this service to their customers, as do most good independent BMW specialists). The theoretical top speed then exceeds 185mph.

    For obvious reasons I won't get into what can / cannot keep up with a 155 mph vehicle, let alone a 185mph vehicle.

    241kph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhCZZ3mBNuk

    Doesn't matter what speed a car can do, once Dopey Joe in his Primera pulls out into the overtaking lane at 100kph in front of an M5 doing ***kph there's only 2 possible outcomes - the M5 is slowed down, or the crash disables the M5 :rolleyes:


  • #1203
    Mister Jingles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    Capri wrote: »
    241kph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhCZZ3mBNuk

    Doesn't matter what speed a car can do, once Dopey Joe in his Primera pulls out into the overtaking lane at 100kph in front of an M5 doing ***kph there's only 2 possible outcomes - the M5 is slowed down, or the crash disables the M5 :rolleyes:

    Thats the older M5 so you could only imagine how things play out with the e60 model.


  • #1204
    TheNog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Capri wrote: »
    Interesting times ahead for someone :rolleyes:

    There was a M5 stolen about 2 months ago and afaik it was never seen again. Pretty sure it wasn't used in jobs around the country.


  • #1205
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Remember hearing a story years back about an army officer in the 70s who had his car stolen. A Mercedes, back when Merc was considered a high value car. He never saw it again.. until...

    He was operating a checkpoint in Lebanon and saw a similar age and version Mercedes approaching. Wrong colour though. Until he spotted a dent on the front wing that he had made while reversing out of his drive. One of those little marks that are more trouble than they are worth to repair. What were the chances that Lebanese local would have the exact same height obstacle to catch on? On closer inspection during search the car was revealed to have been repainted.

    It was the original car, and the new owner had bought it legitimately, soon after it had been stolen, in a country about 2000 miles away!

    True story.


  • #1206
    carzony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    I think it was reported that the engine blew up in that mondeo..


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  • #1207
    DesertCreat_15
    Registered Users Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭DesertCreat_15


    It was an inside job Hopper, I know because i am a tetra radio


  • #1208
    biker701
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭biker701


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=87631538&postcount=1531
    Was actual SDU officers used for the filming of Haywire?


  • #1209
    EireGun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭EireGun


    biker701 wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=87631538&postcount=1531
    Was actual SDU officers used for the filming of Haywire?

    Not actually sure. They could have been actors. They were given a loan of ERU outfits, and I think the jeeps may have been rented with blue lights stuck on for the film.


  • #1210
    POGAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    EireGun wrote: »
    Not actually sure. They could have been actors. They were given a loan of ERU outfits, and I think the jeeps may have been rented with blue lights stuck on for the film.

    Actors def there where copies of eru uniforms


  • #1211
    bravestar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    biker701 wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=87631538&postcount=1531
    Was actual SDU officers used for the filming of Haywire?

    There was big discussion of this when the film was being made, the answer is a big fat NO. Seriously...I dont know how this thought even entered people's minds???:confused:


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  • #1212
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    bravestar wrote: »
    There was big discussion of this when the film was being made, the answer is a big fat NO. Seriously...I dont know how this thought even entered people's minds???:confused:

    It costs so much to run a film set that there's no way they would dream of relying on people who aren't actors .


  • #1213
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    So, you are trying to tell me that the Aliens in Aliens are not real aliens either?


  • #1214
    3fullback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    I see Galway has gotten 2 new 132 Subaru jeeps for HSE advanced paramedics ! They look very nice !


  • #1215
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    3fullback wrote: »
    I see Galway has gotten 2 new 132 Subaru jeeps for HSE advanced paramedics ! They look very nice !

    What is the HSEs thinking in terms of Subaru Foresters, what do they bring to the party that other 4 x 4 type yokes don't.

    Price is the only reason I can think off (oops I think I may have answered my own question :D).

    4 wheel drive Estates like Octavia Scout - might be a better option - no????


  • #1216
    EireGun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭EireGun


    carzony wrote: »
    I think it was reported that the engine blew up in that mondeo..

    It was a 2007 2.5L V6 Petrol, about as good as it gets when it comes to AGS Mondeos, speeds in that pursuit reached 200km on the N7 from Naas to Newlands Cross. Gardai did well to stop the car without injury or worse. Stingers were deployed before Newlands, then Organised Crime Unit rammed the stolen KIA Sportage 4X4, ERU pounced with guns out.


  • #1217
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    I just noticed on etenders that AGS are looking for 3 large family cars, second hand at that.
    Just wondering why, maybe their friends up North might have a few knocking around.


  • #1218
    POGAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    kub wrote: »
    I just noticed on etenders that AGS are looking for 4 large family cars, second hand at that.
    Just wondering why, maybe their friends up North might have a few knocking around.

    U have tender link?


  • #1219
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,506 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Short description
    T.045/2013 - Supply, of up to three pre-owned vehicles referred to in the industry as a “D” or large Family segment class type in a 4 door saloon for An Garda Síochána

    Detailed description
    This is a procurement for the supply up to three vehicles generally referred to in the industry as a ‘D’ or ‘Large Family” segment class type in a 4-door Saloon. The vehicles must be Pre – owned but cannot be older than 3 - 4 years, and should have less than 60,000 kms travelled before delivery. The vehicles are to be supplied in normal showroom condition to the specifications contained in this tender. Vehicles must conform to manufactures specifications Vehicles must be made available for inspection on request Delivery must be within 7 days of delivery

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase.asp?PID=72251


    https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/supplier/publictenders

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



  • #1220
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    POGAN wrote: »
    U have tender link?

    Sorry Pogan I am posting from the phone now.


  • #1221
    3fullback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    What on earth ?


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  • #1222
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    3fullback wrote: »
    What on earth ?

    Would love to know - what the real saving would be on buying new.

    And why buy 2nd hand.

    Maybe if they are high performance 530d/3.0 TDI Audi Quattro types - carefully checked out and bought through Audi or BMW - it may be okay.

    But if your dealing with Audi and BMW - then why not buy new :confused::confused::confused:

    Can't see any logic in buying normal Mondeo type cars 2nd hand.


  • #1223
    3fullback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    Old diesel wrote: »
    Would love to know - what the real saving would be on buying new.

    And why buy 2nd hand.

    Maybe if they are high performance 530d/3.0 TDI Audi Quattro types - carefully checked out and bought through Audi or BMW - it may be okay.

    But if your dealing with Audi and BMW - then why not buy new :confused::confused::confused:

    Can't see any logic in buying normal Mondeo type cars 2nd hand.

    Why say family car and not jeep ?? Or am I missing something ??

    POGAN any sign of them new Hyundais ?


  • #1224
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    3fullback wrote: »
    Why say family car and not jeep ?? Or am I missing something ??

    POGAN any sign of them new Hyundais ?

    I would associate a family car as more of a people type carrier, you know the ones the mummies bring the kids to school in.

    Where as a Jeep is a 4 x 4 ( I know certain yummy mummies still bring kids to school in these yolks as well)

    Ps there was no mention in the tender that they had to have D reg's was there? A few KY's and CN's would be refreshing.


  • #1225
    afatbollix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    Under cover stuff...


  • #1226
    3fullback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    kub wrote: »
    I would associate a family car as more of a people type carrier, you know the ones the mummies bring the kids to school in.

    Where as a Jeep is a 4 x 4 ( I know certain yummy mummies still bring kids to school in these yolks as well)

    Ps there was no mention in the tender that they had to have D reg's was there? A few KY's and CN's would be refreshing.

    Surveillance maybe !!!!


  • #1227
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    3fullback wrote: »
    Why say family car and not jeep ?? Or am I missing something ??

    POGAN any sign of them new Hyundais ?

    I suppose they have identified a family type 4 door saloon as the car they want.

    My point about the Audi and BMW - was that if they were using the 2nd hand route to get cars with very good performance - and they were bought okay through a main dealer - ie Approved Used type cars - then that could make sense.

    But 2nd hand makes no sense if its operational car.


  • #1228
    EireGun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭EireGun


    afatbollix wrote: »
    Under cover stuff...

    Why advertise it as a Public Tender?


  • #1229
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    EireGun wrote: »
    Why advertise it as a Public Tender?

    Good point - but I suppose they hardly need to advertise to the world that they've bought 3 Mondeo saloons from some ford dealer somewhere.

    Or even that they are Mondeos :).

    Its a strange one - 3 is so low a number youd be wondering what is the point.

    As I said earlier - if they needed a few high performance cars - it could make sense that they be bought 2nd hand with low mileage if bought correctly and cars well chosen (ie excellent condition).

    But id still say it could be done with new cars.

    Maybe this is something they are considering doing more off to address a shortage of cars - and are testing the water to see if it could work.

    I don't think its a good idea - frankly if the state wants to buy 2nd hand vehicles - let it be for non emergency vehicles - like company cars for big high up managers and the like.

    Could get great life out of managerial company cars if you insisted on having the 300,000 kms life that's expected from Garda cars.


  • #1230
    3fullback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    Surely if they are looking for high powered cars they would have set that out in the requirements! Instead it seems the size is more important ?


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  • #1231
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    3fullback wrote: »
    Surely if they are looking for high powered cars they would have set that out in the requirements! Instead it seems the size is more important ?

    My apologies - I was illustrating a potential scenario where buying 2nd hand could make some sort of sense. Was trying to get my head around why they would buy 2nd hand

    As you say correctly - the size is the main requirement along with age (less then 4 years old) and mileage (less then 60,000 kms)

    So if someone offered 3 1.8 tdci Mondeos with 50,000 kms - theyd have met the tender requirement if the cars were in decent order and at a price AGS were willing to pay:)

    That's my interpretation of the tender anyhow


  • #1232
    Capri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Capri


    Surely the new price, VRT/VAT free, would be similar to what they'd be paying from a dealer for a 3y/o model. Maybe they're just after the optics to the general public of the 'Gardai save money on fleet' headlines - only for it to be revealed down the road that the were paying the same for a 3y/o car as they would for a more servicable new car :P:P


  • #1233
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Capri wrote: »
    Surely the new price, VRT/VAT free, would be similar to what they'd be paying from a dealer for a 3y/o model. Maybe they're just after the optics to the general public of the 'Gardai save money on fleet' headlines - only for it to be revealed down the road that the were paying the same for a 3y/o car as they would for a more servicable new car :P:P

    Its a good point - common sense would suggest that since VRT is paid to the state - and An Garda Siochana - is part of the state - that Garda cars could simply be bought at a price that excludes VRT.

    However - I fear that this being Ireland - the Gardaí have to buy the cars with VRT included in the price - which then goes to Revenue.

    Would love to know the actual situation though - as you say if the cars were bought new without VRT being paid - you've lost most of the saving that the 3 year old car would bring.


  • #1234
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    Capri wrote: »
    Surely the new price, VRT/VAT free, would be similar to what they'd be paying from a dealer for a 3y/o model. Maybe they're just after the optics to the general public of the 'Gardai save money on fleet' headlines - only for it to be revealed down the road that the were paying the same for a 3y/o car as they would for a more servicable new car :P:P

    And not to mention of course the money spent on maintaining them


  • #1235
    3fullback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    What about them being for K9 unit ? Smelly dogs etc..


  • #1236
    belacqua_
    Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭belacqua_


    What are the chances that this tender is aimed at second-hand cars previously lent to AGS for recent VIP visits ... These high-end cars could be destined for senior members/special duties or to have in place for other visiting dignitaries. That or they're for undercover work. But I'd have thought there'd be other means for acquiring undercover vehicles.


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  • #1237
    Terrontress
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    belacqua_ wrote: »
    What are the chances that this tender is aimed at second-hand cars previously lent to AGS for recent VIP visits ... These high-end cars could be destined for senior members/special duties or to have in place for other visiting dignitaries. That or they're for undercover work. But I'd have thought there'd be other means for acquiring undercover vehicles.

    So do you think the vehicles exist already and the tender is just to formalise their acquisition?


  • #1238
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    Terrontress wrote: »
    So do you think the vehicles exist already and the tender is just to formalise their acquisition?

    So the tender process will make idiots of car dealers all over the country. Not for the first time I suppose.


  • #1239
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,821 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    kub wrote: »
    So the tender process will make idiots of car dealers all over the country. Not for the first time I suppose.

    Someones just speculating - doesn't mean that's the way it will pan out.

    Tbh - it really doesn't make sense either way


  • #1240
    knifey_spoonie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭knifey_spoonie


    Having looked at the tender doc's they ain't after a mondeo, There's minimum power to weight ratio's and the likes listed in the tender.

    Safe to say they ain't for mules


  • #1241
    belacqua_
    Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭belacqua_


    Terrontress wrote: »
    So do you think the vehicles exist already and the tender is just to formalise their acquisition?

    It's just speculation on my part, but that's how these things work.

    Manufacturer/dealer says: remember those three large [luxury] family cars we lent you last year?

    Management: You mean the three vehicles generally referred to in the industry as a ‘D’ or ‘Large Family' segment class type in a 4-door Saloon.

    Manufacturer: Yes, the D, or large family, segment class. They're about 3 years old and they have less than 60,000kms on the clock.

    Management: Sure I know the previous owner.

    Manufacturer: These yokes are in showroom condition and conform to our specifications. You can come and have a look at them whenever you like.

    Management: Nice. What are you looking for them?

    Manufacturer: We'll give you them for x euros a piece.

    Management: Bargain. But we've to throw an auld quick tender out there, just to keep things above board. But sure, who'll match that deal.

    Manufacturer: That'll do, we can get them to you within the week. After we've valeted them, of course.

    Management: Lovely stuff.

    Tender: This is a procurement for the supply up to three vehicles generally referred to in the industry as a ‘D’ or ‘Large Family” segment class type in a 4-door Saloon. The vehicles must be Pre – owned but cannot be older than 3 - 4 years, and should have less than 60,000 kms travelled before delivery. The vehicles are to be supplied in normal showroom condition to the specifications contained in this tender. Vehicles must conform to manufactures specifications Vehicles must be made available for inspection on request Delivery must be within 7 days of delivery.


    Maybe I'm just a little cynical ...


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  • #1242
    sparrowcar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    belacqua_ wrote: »
    It's just speculation on my part, but that's how these things work.

    Manufacturer/dealer says: remember those three large [luxury] family cars we lent you last year?

    Management: You mean the three vehicles generally referred to in the industry as a ‘D’ or ‘Large Family' segment class type in a 4-door Saloon.

    Manufacturer: Yes, the D, or large family, segment class. They're about 3 years old and they have less than 60,000kms on the clock.

    Management: Sure I know the previous owner.

    Manufacturer: These yokes are in showroom condition and conform to our specifications. You can come and have a look at them whenever you like.

    Management: Nice. What are you looking for them?

    Manufacturer: We'll give you them for x euros a piece.

    Management: Bargain. But we've to throw an auld quick tender out there, just to keep things above board. But sure, who'll match that deal.

    Manufacturer: That'll do, we can get them to you within the week. After we've valeted them, of course.

    Management: Lovely stuff.

    Tender: This is a procurement for the supply up to three vehicles generally referred to in the industry as a ‘D’ or ‘Large Family” segment class type in a 4-door Saloon. The vehicles must be Pre – owned but cannot be older than 3 - 4 years, and should have less than 60,000 kms travelled before delivery. The vehicles are to be supplied in normal showroom condition to the specifications contained in this tender. Vehicles must conform to manufactures specifications Vehicles must be made available for inspection on request Delivery must be within 7 days of delivery.


    Maybe I'm just a little cynical ...

    That's how government tenders worked in a non related industry I use to work in. My old company was asked to write the tender so we could win it on numerous occasions. It's very common.


  • #1243
    Leo Demidov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Leo Demidov


    Delivery must be within 7 days of delivery?


  • #1244
    miju
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    kub wrote: »
    So the tender process will make idiots of car dealers all over the country. Not for the first time I suppose.

    And the previous time was when?

    I always get great giggles from these tender discussions and the wild assumptions as to how it works :)
    sparrowcar wrote: »
    That's how government tenders worked in a non related industry I use to work in. My old company was asked to write the tender so we could win it on numerous occasions. It's very common.

    I highly doubt it as it that's against EU Directives in particular 18/2004


  • #1245
    POGAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    3fullback wrote: »
    Why say family car and not jeep ?? Or am I missing something ??

    POGAN any sign of them new Hyundais ?

    Suppose your there some out & about already haven't seen nothing but the new new PO vans


  • #1246
    3fullback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    If anyones got a pic of a new Hyandai AGS car please share :D


  • #1247
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    Well don't the Hyundai's look good compared with the look of those yolks. I suppose though having said that, they do remind me of those Lada cars that arrived here in the late 80's. It seemed that they had very long lives, I wonder will those Dacia's be the same?


  • #1248
    carzony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    kub wrote: »
    Well don't the Hyundai's look good compared with the look of those yolks. I suppose though having said that, they do remind me of those Lada cars that arrived here in the late 80's. It seemed that they had very long lives, I wonder will those Dacia's be the same?

    Those hyundai's are a great looking car, especially the estates. I'v seen loads of them around (private ones)


  • #1249
    3fullback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    carzony wrote: »
    I'v seen loads of them around (private ones)

    :(


    Anyone seen an AGS Hyundai, but doesn't have a photo. If so where/when :D ?


  • #1250
    kub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    carzony wrote: »
    Those hyundai's are a great looking car, especially the estates. I'v seen loads of them around (private ones)

    That is what I said.


  • #1251
    carzony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    kub wrote: »
    That is what I said.

    sorry didn't bother reading your post at the start:o...


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