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Top Gear kicked out of Argentina - World gone mad?

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    #62
    thrashmetalfan
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    No, a war started by a vicious dictatorship - that didn't enjoy popular support and embarked on the invasion to deflect attention away from domestic unrest and growing resistance against the regime.


    umm are you talking about argentina or England? I am sure thatchers reasons for going to war were quite similar.


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    #63
    Peist2007
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    Gatling wrote: »
    It would want to be a long plate ,


    The fact its a genuine plate on a German car would suggest its a coincidence.

    If it was deliberately staged it would have been put on a English marque ,

    Now remind me who exactly invaded the islands

    Whether the war was correct/justified whatever is irrelevant. It is clearly a sensitive issue and the joke on Top Gear every week seems to be at the expense of whichever country the lads go to. Maybe not be little englanders all of the time?


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    #64
    My name is URL
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    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Whether the war was correct/justified whatever is irrelevant. It is clearly a sensitive issue and the joke on Top Gear every week seems to be at the expense of whichever country the lads go to. Maybe not be little englanders all of the time?

    They'd alienate their core audience if they stopped being racist little englanders


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    #65
    Dyr
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    Hande hoche! wrote: »
    Surely has happened before, in other countries? Also someone will probably post that Stewart Lee video.

    Hopefully, it's gold


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    #66
    Harry Palmr
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    They'd alienate their core audience if they stopped being racist little englanders

    and the 300 million regular viewers around the world presumably


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    #67
    Gatling
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    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Whether the war was correct/justified whatever is irrelevant. It is clearly a sensitive issue

    Where is the insensitivity exactly

    A 1991 licence plate even tin foil hats wouldnt buy that
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    #68
    Jawgap
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    thrashmetalfan wrote: »
    umm are you talking about argentina or England? I am sure thatchers reasons for going to war were quite similar.

    I'm no fan of Thatcher, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to compare her 'regime' which responded to the seizing of the islands with the Galtieri Junta.

    The great tragedy for the UK was that in seizing the islands and allowing Thatcher her victory it gave her the momentum to win the 1983 election, extend the Tory majority and take on the unions.


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    #69
    thrashmetalfan
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    I'm no fan of Thatcher, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to compare her 'regime' which responded to the seizing of the islands with the Galtieri Junta.

    The great tragedy for the UK was that in seizing the islands and allowing Thatcher her victory it gave her the momentum to win the 1983 election, extend the Tory majority and take on the unions.


    well exactly that's what I was alluding to. thatchers government was well down in the opinion polls before the war due to the recession at the time really kicking in lots of unemployment etc etc. of course there was rioting up and down the country, race riots in Brixton and job riots in toxteth in Liverpool. so she was not that popular. it was all about the evil argies and the dreaded video nasties back in the early 80's.


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    #70
    syklops
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    The programme has already run into problems this year, with one edition found to be in breach of Ofcom's broadcasting code for the use of a racially offensive term during a two-part special filmed in Burma, following a complaint from a viewer.

    :rolleyes:


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    #71
    Peist2007
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    Gatling wrote: »
    Where is the insensitivity exactly

    A 1991 licence plate even tin foil hats wouldnt buy that

    I said it was a sensitive issue to Argentinians. I will try to write things extra clear for you from now on.


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    #72
    eyescreamcone
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    Jawgap wrote: »

    The great tragedy for the UK was that in seizing the islands and allowing Thatcher her victory it gave her the momentum to win the 1983 election, extend the Tory majority and take on the unions.

    The unions needed a good slap at the time.
    Election wins before and after show support for her politics at the time.


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    #73
    Fratton Fred
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    They'd alienate their core audience if they stopped being racist little englanders

    You mean racists who call an entire country idiotic?


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    rubadub
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    However, BBC bosses today insisted the choice of number plate was pure coincidence, saying the car was not bought because of its apparent reference nor were the plates swapped.

    Is there any word of who actually spotted this? Its not exactly as obvious as the person suggesting IRA 21 as a plate. If I saw this on tv there is no way I would have copped it. And allegedly/supposedly no BBC people copped it, who are more likely to be on the lookout.

    Did some native Falkland guy spot it. Or I wonder if some BBC team guy who knew about it had to go and drop hints to locals and let them believe they spotted it.


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    #75
    thrashmetalfan
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    eyescreamcone wrote: »
    The unions needed a good slap at the time.
    Election wins before and after show support for her politics at the time.

    no she was going down in the ratings due to her inability to turn the economy around and lead Britain out of a recession like she said she would


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    #76
    Hoagy
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    Gatling wrote: »
    The plate is genuine and has been registered since 1991 in the uk
    Tax and insurance is all up to date

    H is a 1990 reg, though.


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    #77
    diomed
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    Very disappointed they didn't jail Clarkson for being Clarkson.


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    #78
    Jawgap
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    eyescreamcone wrote: »
    The unions needed a good slap at the time.
    Election wins before and after show support for her politics at the time.

    Well they needed reform, that's true - but they didn't need to eviscerate a swathe of communities and small mining towns through Wales, Scotland and the NE of England, (and Yorkshire and Nottinghamshire) to achieve the necessary changes.

    ......and her support had contracted by the '87 election - the 'Lawson Boom' and the cock-up that was the Labour Party got her back in. Plus if there was so much support for her politics how come the Poll Tax was not accepted?

    Especially in a country long used to paying local taxes.


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    #79
    Gatling
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    Peist2007 wrote: »
    I said it was a sensitive issue to Argentinians. I will try to write things extra clear for you from now on.

    Still not explaining .
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    bear1
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    rubadub wrote: »
    Is there any word of who actually spotted this? Its not exactly as obvious as the person suggesting IRA 21 as a plate. If I saw this on tv there is no way I would have copped it. And allegedly/supposedly no BBC people copped it, who are more likely to be on the lookout.

    Did some native Falkland guy spot it. Or I wonder if some BBC team guy who knew about it had to go and drop hints to locals and let them believe they spotted it.

    From what I have been reading it just seemed to have spotted randomly during it's journey.
    I'd imagine many people would be drawn to the cars in question due to the number plate colours and the steering wheels on the other side.
    They had entered a certain region where it became more noticeable and residents complained to the mayor or the area.
    Mayor kicked up a fuss, run on local papers and then veterans from the war protested outside their hotel.
    They say the cars had to be hidden due to the issue.
    Subsequently they decided to escort them to the airport out of the country.
    You're right, I for one would never have spotted it.
    They also had an episode where they bought 3 British cars to prove they were crap and the number plates were full of anagrams.
    Cnut, liar and gosh I think they were.


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    #81
    eyescreamcone
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    thrashmetalfan wrote: »
    no she was going down in the ratings due to her inability to turn the economy around and lead Britain out of a recession like she said she would

    Sorry for going off topic a little but Thatcher won elections in 79,83 and 87.
    These wins show how popular her policies were.
    Labour/Unions were a joke at the time.


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    #82
    Peist2007
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    Gatling wrote: »
    Still not explaining .

    Can you not see that the issue of the Falklands is sensitive to the Argentinians?


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    #83
    bear1
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    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Whether the war was correct/justified whatever is irrelevant. It is clearly a sensitive issue and the joke on Top Gear every week seems to be at the expense of whichever country the lads go to. Maybe not be little englanders all of the time?

    This is silly. They pull the pi33 out of the UK all the time. No one bats an eyelid.
    They buy 3 bangers for a trip around a country where 1 car by chance has a number plate which seems to suggest the war and they are thrown out/barred from the place?
    Now the guy coming out to suggest the other 2 cars have references to the war as well just shows how ludicrous it all is.


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    #84
    Fratton Fred
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    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Can you not see that the issue of the Falklands is sensitive to the Argentinians?

    Which is entirely of their own making.


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    #85
    Gatling
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    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Can you not see that the issue of the Falklands is sensitive to the Argentinians?

    No.

    Military junta invaded .

    British navy set sail kicked a load of conscripts arses.

    Islands are all happy
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    #86
    Peist2007
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    bear1 wrote: »
    This is silly. They pull the pi33 out of the UK all the time. No one bats an eyelid.
    They buy 3 bangers for a trip around a country where 1 car by chance has a number plate which seems to suggest the war and they are thrown out/barred from the place?
    Now the guy coming out to suggest the other 2 cars have references to the war as well just shows how ludicrous it all it.

    I really do not see how an english tv show taking the mickey out of english people is comparable to the same tv show going to Argentina and taking the mickey out of the Argentinians in relation to a recent war between England and Argentina is comparable in the slightest.


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    #87
    Peist2007
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    Gatling wrote: »
    No.

    Military junta invaded .

    British navy set sail kicked a load of conscripts arses.

    Islands are all happy

    That aint what i asked.


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    #88
    wiseoldelf34
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    rightly so.if they came here displaying something that represented the e.glish killing our soldiers there would. be uproar too.even if it was just a joke


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    #89
    foggy_lad
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    bear1 wrote: »
    From what I have been reading it just seemed to have spotted randomly during it's journey.
    I'd imagine many people would be drawn to the cars in question due to the number plate colours and the steering wheels on the other side.
    They had entered a certain region where it became more noticeable and residents complained to the mayor or the area.
    Mayor kicked up a fuss, run on local papers and then veterans from the war protested outside their hotel.
    They say the cars had to be hidden due to the issue.
    Subsequently they decided to escort them to the airport out of the country.
    You're right, I for one would never have spotted it.
    They also had an episode where they bought 3 British cars to prove they were crap and the number plates were full of anagrams.
    Cnut, liar and gosh I think they were.

    Looks like the crew abandoned the cars after they were stoned trying to continue on through Rio Grande.

    Will that mean the people they "borrow" cars from for filming stunts like this are going to say no or just up the replacement cost to 16 times the actual value of the cars?

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/517859/Jeremy-Clarkson-outrage-driving-Argentina-Falklands-War-numberplate
    It has since emerged that production crews abandoned the damaged vehicles and the offending Porsche at a police checkpoint on route to Chile.

    Film crews reportedly told officers at the first checkpoint they reached after passing through Tolhuin:"We’re leaving the cars, we don’t want more problems. Burn them if you want but we’re getting out of here."

    An Argentinian technician hired for the Top Gear shoot is said to have been injured after a stone thrown by one of the demonstrators hit him in the face.

    He reportedly refused medical attention after an ambulance was sent to treat him.

    The violence they faced - and news more angry demonstrators were waiting for them a few miles up the road - eventually forced them to abandon plans to continue towards the Chilean border via the Argentinian city of Rio Grande.

    Instead they are understood to have diverted to a remote road leading to the Radman or Bellavista Pass to cross into Chile.


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    #90
    Peist2007
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Which is entirely of their own making.

    Irrelevant again. Why would Top Gear antagonise them?


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    #91
    Gatling
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    Peist2007 wrote: »
    That aint what i asked.

    That's what happened
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