Mass Effect 3

Vargulf · 14-12-2010 1:03am

Its funny how all the landmarks are intact yet everything else is in rubble. That big wheel thingy is even standing.

Mitch Connor · 14-12-2010 1:08am

I would say there is a strong possibility multiplayer could be treated exactly like Uncharted 2. Single player game as the single player game should be. Multiplayer is a seperate game mode.

I think it could work, ME death matches with mates could be fun, if they could get a few of the biotic attacks in there along with guns.

Wouldn't be something I would be that interested in, but wouldn't bother me if it was in there.

stevoslice · 14-12-2010 2:30am

Stev_o wrote: »

Tbh im getting a bit sick of the whole mass effect plot line. The premisses hasn't changed at all. Go put together a crew. Get alien weapons. Win the day. It's going to be a pure action game with dialogue . They are playing this far too safely in terms of plot because it's so predictable. The council will be saying "We don't want to help Earth" and then we have to go convince them. Would of been much more interesting to see a bit of betrayal in the council as Repear sleepers gain control and ensue a civil war of sorts.

My god, you can tell all that from a 1 minute trailer a year before the games release, it must be no fun for you to actually play these games once they are actually released.

On to the MP

Mass Effect 2 was one of the best games I've played, and a lot of this was down to getting you to empathise with the other people in the game, I lost all of the Normandy crew except for Dr. Chakwas, but I sent her to her death instead of jeopardising the mission for a single survivor, after that I managed to get my whole squad through the ending unharmed and boy was I a happy camper, my heart was in my mouth all the way through that sequence.

If Bioware could guarantee a sequel worthy of the series but with added MP that did not in any way pull any resources or affect any game-play feature from the SP, then I'd be all for it. But, as we all know, and another poster here has mentioned, building a MP for this game from the ground up would take millions of dollars and possibly up to half the crew to implement.

For that reason Mass Effect MP, you're fired. (I hope)

Making It Bad · 14-12-2010 5:39am

thebhoy wrote: »

My god, you can tell all that from a 1 minute trailer a year before the games release, it must be no fun for you to actually play these games once they are actually released.

Mass Effect 1 is one of, if not, one of my favourite games of all times. I find however myself agreeing with Steve_o on this matter. The trailer is very reminiscent of the whole "go gather a crew and fight the collectors beyond the omega relay" theme, just this time it's "go gather a crew and fight the reapers on Earth".

I found Mass Effect so brilliant because you never knew what was going in the plot line next. It was never clear how the game was going to end and then when it did in an epic fight in the citadel my mind was simply blown. I never could have expected an ending as simple awesome as that.

Unfortunately in Mass Effect 2 the ending was very clear from the start of the game. You'd gather your crew and go to The Collectors and beat them. Mass Effect 3 seems to be following this same predictability (and this is echoed in the trailer by the "Shepard must bring help soon or else..." line).

Maybe I'm wrong (and I hope I am) but gathering a crew (or uniting the races or whatever) and then finally going to Earth to battle the reapers is all just a little clichéd and not half as cool as I'd expect the final game in the trilogy to be like.

Kiith · 14-12-2010 9:55am

Keep multiplayer the **** away from the 3rd as far as i'm concerned. Not every game needs multiplayer. Mass Effect is a single player game, and should remain that way.

ironictoaster · 14-12-2010 10:09am

I knew there was a game I haven't finished yet, ME2. I'll get around to that during Christmas. I wish I never the thread, silly spoilers :mad:

The game looks great nevertheless.

14-12-2010 10:32am

The one thing I can't wait to see is how your actions in the ME1 and ME2 (I really hope it'll be the two, rather than just ME2) will impact the world in ME3. I went back and replayed ME1, just so I could do most things differently and see how this changed ME2. It was brilliant.

Jayd0g · 14-12-2010 10:41am

thebhoy wrote: »

On to the MP
Mass Effect 2 was one of the best games I've played, and a lot of this was down to getting you to empathise with the other people in the game, I lost all of the Normandy crew except for Dr. Chakwas, but I sent her to her death instead of jeopardising the mission for a single survivor, after that I managed to get my whole squad through the ending unharmed and boy was I a happy camper, my heart was in my mouth all the way through that sequence.

Please use the spoiler text thing, I've been following this thread, curious as to what people think of adding multiplayer. I'm still playing through ME2. Yes, it doesn't surprise me that I need to go through the Omega relay and that it's a suicide mission. The achievement for surviving it gave that away.

But spoiler:

The fact that I can choose to send the Doctor to her death to save the mission is a pretty big spoiler.

Come on!

It's not quite up there with Homer ruining the Empire Strikes Back for everyone in the queue for the movie, but it's a spoiler nonetheless.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing MP added once it doesn't detract from the single player game.

Kiith · 14-12-2010 11:08am

Mass Effect 3: Elder Scrolls :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li5aDU9280c

Sisko · 14-12-2010 12:37pm

The anti MP people sound like conspiracy theory nut jobs "impossible to add mp without it affecting the sp" "With cost trillions of dollar" bla bla bla

I guess half-life 2 is such a failure of a single player game, they added deathmatch to that after all.

ME is a singleplayer game, adding mutliplayer wont change that. Just something fun to do once you've beaten the game.

As for people complaining about spoilers of ME2 in a thread about ME3. You should really beat me2 1st before reading a thread on the 3rd game.

I mean I was pretty late to getting around to beating it myself, only beat it 2 months ago. But for the entire 6+months the game was out where I wasnt playing it, I avoided every youtube video and internet thread about the game. Its very easy to do.

I certianly wont be using any spoiler tags if I must talk about anything ME2 during this thread, or ME1 for that matter.

I'll say this though Jayd0g, that wasnt as big a spoiler as you seem to think it was , the way thebhoy phrased that makes it sounds like more of a spoiler then it is. Has little to do with the success of the mission for example, I'll spare you the details, you'll understand when you get to that part. But trust me your assuming more then whats actually there.

14-12-2010 1:19pm

As long as SP is as strong in previous games, then ME3 can have MP.

Sisko · 14-12-2010 1:30pm

Yeah I wouldnt want mp either if it was gonna harm the sp.

Interesting point, mp would work for me2 but no way in hell for me1.

I wonder will there be more gameplay changes for me3.

NotorietyH · 14-12-2010 1:42pm

Sisko wrote: »

The anti MP people sound like conspiracy theory nut jobs "impossible to add mp without it affecting the sp" "With cost trillions of dollar" bla bla bla

I remember lots of people saying the same thing when they announced multiplayer for Uncharted 2. Didn't seem to have much of an effect on that so I have faith that if it is in Mass Effect 3, then the single player won't suffer. Who knows, they could've been working on the multiplayer component while they were making 2.

Sisko · 14-12-2010 4:14pm

Indeed and remember this is bioware we're talking about here.

stevoslice · 14-12-2010 5:10pm

Jayd0g wrote: »

The fact that I can choose to send the Doctor to her death to save the mission is a pretty big spoiler.
Come on!

I didn't say thats how you save the mission, just at the time i was thinking that there was no way i was jeopardising it for 1 person

NotorietyH wrote: »

I remember lots of people saying the same thing when they announced multiplayer for Uncharted 2. Didn't seem to have much of an effect on that so I have faith that if it is in Mass Effect 3, then the single player won't suffer. Who knows, they could've been working on the multiplayer component while they were making 2.

it might not affect the overall quality of the gameplay, but mp capable games are now almost notorious for having shorter campaigns. this is the fear many people have.

DarkJager · 14-12-2010 5:54pm

I'm fully in the "I don't want MP in Mass Effect" group. Too many games these days are tacking this crap on and completely ignoring the single player aspect of their games. Mass Effect does not need MP in any shape or form, it never has and never will. I don't buy Mass Effect games to play online. I buy them to enjoy the SP of the game, and get fully immersed in the world and characters of it.

MP has already ruined the FPS genre (yes there are people who still enjoy only SP FPS modes despite what developers seem to think), it should not be allowed to ruin ME as well.

GTR63 · 14-12-2010 6:17pm

I keep on reading people saying MP ads longevity,you know that to get the most out of Mass Effect you can have multible playthroughs of it making different choice thats real longevity not multiplayer that'll be forgotten well before the next ME series or inevitable MMO.

maximoose · 14-12-2010 6:23pm

Very excited for this game. Should be epic.

Sisko · 14-12-2010 6:31pm

If this was a modern warfare military shooter you guys would have a point but its not.

Will you all be like this for half life 4? Or do you trust valve? Wheres that trust in bioware?

Gunmonkey · 14-12-2010 7:44pm

Im worried because a week ago the EA Games president Frank Gibeau (and EA owns Bioware) stated:

"It's one of my core cultural studio values to allow developers to decide more on what they want to build," he explains. "And a studio's creative call needs to be balanced against a commercial imperative, and if you look at online these days - that's the place to be."

"I volunteer you to speak to EA's studio heads; they'll tell you the same thing. They're very comfortable moving the discussion towards how we make connected gameplay -- be it co-operative or multiplayer or online services -- as opposed to fire-and-forget, packaged goods only, single-player, 25-hours-and you're out. I think that model is finished. Online is where the innovation, and the action, is at."

I just hop Bioware stand its ground and pushes for single player focus and if they do add MP, its well thought out and fits the game then just a thrown together mess of gameplay from the SP.

Half-Life 2 Deathmatch was just assets from the main game thrown into an arena, so probably didnt take much time or impact the development toomuch of HL2. it was also completely throw-away gaming, and quickly superceeded by CS:Source and TF2. Its if a deve team tries to put out a complex and through MP mode and has to pull resources and staff from the main SP game thats worries me.

Give me an amazing SP and no MP game than a mediocre SP and MP game.

14-12-2010 8:11pm

Do we really have to spoiler things from ME2 or ME1 in a thread about ME3? If you haven't played the first or second, you really shouldn't be reading a thread based around the third installment.

smk89 · 15-12-2010 12:32am

Mass effect 3
elder scrolls V
Portal 2
Deus Ex 3 Liverpool:4

2011 looks better everyday!!

titan18 · 15-12-2010 1:39am

smk89 wrote: »

Mass effect 3
elder scrolls V
Portal 2
Deus Ex 3 Liverpool:4

2011 looks better everyday!!

Add The Witcher 2,Dragon Age 2,Brink,Star Wars:The Old Republic,Crysis 2,Hitman 5(possibly),GTA 5(hopeful for some reason) and possibly more, and it's going to be a great year.

On topic, I loved 1(bar the elevator scenes),I loved 2 and can't wait for 3 now.

Icyseanfitz · 15-12-2010 3:26am

titan18 wrote: »

Add The Witcher 2,Dragon Age 2,Brink,Star Wars:The Old Republic,Crysis 2,Hitman 5(possibly),GTA 5(hopeful for some reason) and possibly more, and it's going to be a great year.

On topic, I loved 1(bar the elevator scenes),I loved 2 and can't wait for 3 now.

if gta (new one) turned up this year it would be best video game year in history, why hasnt it been announced yet its obvious they are working on it and have been for some time seeing as its their moneymaker

johnny_ultimate · 15-12-2010 8:01am

The trailer for this fills me with a great hope.

The only problem is I keep on forgetting what happened, what is what and who is who in the between game gaps :pac:

Everyone survived

for me though, so I look forward to kicking some alien ass.

anonymous_joe · 15-12-2010 1:40pm

Yay. ME3.

That is all.

Sisko · 15-12-2010 2:22pm

**** GTA, La Noire is where its at.

Lonesome Boatman · 16-12-2010 2:12am

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Varik · 16-12-2010 12:43pm

New engine and you can see it on the ps3 first, the below was said on the bioware podcast.

Jesse Houston wrote:

We’ve actually created the engine for Mass Effect 3 and use that to make Mass Effect 2 PS3. So we took the content and the story and all the other assets that made up Mass Effect 2 and we put them in the Mass Effect 3 engine. And that‘s what we are actually delivering.

Kiith · 16-12-2010 1:44pm

They've said already that it's a simultaneous release across all three platforms. No timed exclusives.

maximoose · 16-12-2010 1:46pm

Kiith wrote: »

They've said already that it's a simultaneous release across all three platforms. No timed exclusives.

Yeah he's only talking about the ME3 Engine

Kiith · 16-12-2010 1:50pm

Ah ok. Pc for me anyway :P

Kiith · 16-12-2010 3:11pm

Totally random... (slight spoilers near the end of ME2)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPWs5xdAIRQ

Magill · 16-12-2010 3:22pm

Gief gears of war on the ps3.. then i can sell this xbox of mine !

DarkJager · 16-12-2010 4:48pm

Magill wrote: »

Gief gears of war on the ps3.. then i can sell this xbox of mine !

Never got the hype about Gears of War. Probably one of the most boring games I've played on the 360.

gizmo · 16-12-2010 5:37pm

Varik wrote: »

New engine and you can see it on the ps3 first, the below was said on the bioware podcast.

I wouldn't get too excited about the "new engine" talk, from the IGN preview the two look extremely similar although I'd wait for the Digital Foundry comparison before passing any real judgement. Technically speaking I'd say they just realised there was no point in porting the existing ME2 engine to the PS3 when the ME3 engine was going to be ported so they chose the latter in it's current state as the platform to build the game. Either way, I'm just happy to see the PS3 isn't getting a ****ty port.

Magill wrote: »

Gief gears of war on the ps3.. then i can sell this xbox of mine !

That's about as likely as Resistance 3 coming to the 360

WolfForager · 16-12-2010 5:43pm

I had a gander at IGN comparison too, PS3 defo looks sharper and has deeper colours. Slightly leaning towards the 360 version though.. Just something about it, colours might be a tad too deep on the PS3 or something...

Magill · 16-12-2010 6:42pm

DarkJager wrote: »

Never got the hype about Gears of War. Probably one of the most boring games I've played on the 360.

Dont get me wrong, im not saying its the best game EVER or anything ! Its just the only game i'll pick up on the xbox all year.. theres no other really good exclusives for the 360 this year from what i can see. I enjoyed the campaigns on the first 2 GOW games tho.

Sisko · 16-12-2010 9:20pm

Varik wrote: »

New engine and you can see it on the ps3 first, the below was said on the bioware podcast.

The hell? Seems insane to make an entire new engine for it, I heard they spent a great deal of time tweaking the hell out of the unreal engine for me1 and more so for 2 so I imagine its just a further tweaked one for 3 rather then one totally done from scratch?

Varik · 16-12-2010 10:08pm

gizmo wrote: »

preview the two look extremely similar although I'd wait for the Digital Foundry comparison before passing any real judgement. Technically speaking I'd say they just realised there was no point in porting the existing ME2 engine to the PS3 when the ME3 engine was going to be ported so they chose the latter in it's current state as the platform to build the game. Either way, I'm just happy to see the PS3 isn't getting a ****ty port.

they're saying that it's the new engine with the current content and it probably is mostly to reduce the work load of getting 2 and 3 to the ps3 but is not like it could get worse(well it's unlikely).

One thing i think may be good is that they will continue to work on the engine for 3 so any improvements they find on the way may be applied to 2 or may not if they wanted to make 3 look that much better in comparison.

The only thing i can say is it's not a late port to a 360 game, they have done more than made a PS3 goty version which as i had the pc version may get me to buy this for the included DLC.

The only downsize i can think of is me2 dlc as i didn't think they were finished yet so they'll need to make a version for each engine.

tallaghtmick · 17-12-2010 1:13am

hopefully there are more races and planets in me3,also i reeeeeeally wanna see what the quarians look like :rolleyes:

Josey Wales · 07-03-2011 3:17pm

I just finished Mass Effect 2 last night. What a wonderful game it was. I had to wait a long time to play it after the first one having traded in my 360 but it was worth the wait. As this is a thread about Mass Effect 3 I'm sure there are no need for spoiler tags.

I wonder what decisions will have an impact in Mass Effect 3. I'm sure the big one will be did you decide to destroy the Collector base or not. There could also be big consequences depending on the choice you make during Legion's loyalty mission.

I wonder what smaller decisions though will come back to haunt you. Like will the character who's live you have in your hand during Garrus' loyalty mission. Will he come back and help you out at some stage? I'm sure there are many more such examples but I can't remember them right now. One thing I am really looking forward to is the return of the Rachni. Provided of course you saved them in the first game.

As for the MP discussion earlier in the thread I woudn't mind if it was included. Provided that Bioware have a big enough team for it not to impact on the quality of the single player. Has MP even been confirmed or is it still a rumour?

Sisko · 08-03-2011 3:56am

My initial assumption was that any character that has the possibility of dying in the 2nd game, would only have a small role or only even a mention in the 3rd game.

As is biowares style - can't spend ages coding and voice recording a character that'll only be there for half of peoples games (the people that didn't get them killed)...etc...

BUT I really hope I'm wrong. Cause that'd mean no Garrus, and no Garrus in mass effect 3, just wouldn't be mass effect... I wanna hear about his calibrations and ****.. :pac:

Likely , I'll be correct for 90% of the me2 cast but they'll still make garrus and tali primary squad mates.

This is the problem bioware face though by having a game where players choices effect who lives and dies and have that save carry over to 3 games.
It gets more complex for them, I mean if garrus IS the main team mate he should be in me3 , how the hell would that effect those who got him killed? They still need to make the story and game workable for those people, thus garrus can't really have more then just a generic team mate role in the game, less dialogue etc etc.
Or is there a work around?

We'll see I guess, but some things do seem to have to suffer due to this.

Theres a hell of a lot less squad interaction in the ME series compared to any other bioware game I've played. Which is a shame.

pixelburp · 08-03-2011 9:50am

Sisko wrote: »

My initial assumption was that any character that has the possibility of dying in the 2nd game, would only have a small role or only even a mention in the 3rd game.

As is biowares style - can't spend ages coding and voice recording a character that'll only be there for half of peoples games (the people that didn't get them killed)...etc...

I'd say more than likely the characters will just be written out of the story, in the same way many of ME1's cast were. Character X goes off to pursue a personal quest / vendetta / acting career. You'll likeLY get a few scenes with them as you cross paths & that will be that. They did that with the "romance" characters from ME1; you crossed paths, they broke up with you, the story continued.

Like you I hope Garrus & Tali return; in both games they were the better characters with more interesting and well written story arcs (as against the rather 2D cast of the new crew, with the exception of Mordan that is) & I found that I was naturally going the extra mile with their characters. Quite by accident, my John Shephard ended up romantically entangled with Tali just because I was being nice to her & responded to her vulnerabilities (as opposed to the other women who were a bit too of the "OMG I'm such a beatch!1!", "OMG I'm so misunderstood!1!" stereotype.

08-03-2011 11:42am

I really hope a lot of the smaller decisions in ME2 make impacts in ME3 - such as whether or not you convinced that kid not to join the mercenaries on Omega. It'll be interesting if he's now got a high position.

Zero-Cool · 14-03-2011 4:17pm

Just cleared ME2, cannot wait for ME3!!!!

Speaking of which, new info coming this week.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/293351/news/ea-promises-mass-effect-3-exclusive-info-this-week/

Healium · 15-03-2011 1:58am

sheehy83 wrote: »

Just cleared ME2, cannot wait for ME3!!!!

Speaking of which, new info coming this week.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/293351/news/ea-promises-mass-effect-3-exclusive-info-this-week/

Nope, they changed their statement

Josey Wales · 15-03-2011 11:57am

There was a screenshot from the new Arrival DLC posted on the official ME2 thread over on neogaf.

Sorry can't find the direct link at the moment.

Zero-Cool · 15-03-2011 12:20pm

Josey Wales wrote: »

There was a screenshot from the new Arrival DLC posted on the official ME2 thread over on neogaf.

Sorry can't find the direct link at the moment.

Ya, the Bioware whores are holding screenshots to ransom. they want 750,000 views or likes or something on facebook, they can keep em!

SeantheMan · 15-03-2011 7:27pm

http://www.gametrailers.com/news/mass-effect-2-arrival/3155

As most Mass Effect fans know by now, some recent intel regarding PS3 Trophies seems to indicate the impending arrival of some new ME2 DLC which many are speculating will bridge the gap between Mass Effect 2 and the highly-anticipated Mass Effect 3.

Well, adding fuel to the fire is the above picture, which was released yesterday via BioWare’s official Facebook page and contained the following caption:

“New Mass Effect 2 screenshots have Arrived. I’ll release a new one tomorrow if you share this one and help us get 750,000 impressions!”

Mass Effect 3

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