Eurovision Song Contest 2015

thelad95 · 02-03-2015 2:52am

clappyhappy wrote: »

I agree with what you say, but you have listened to the song many times. Majority of voters will probably hear it for the first time, which IMHO isn't enough.

I wouldn't say that's necessarily true either. Most people who watch the Eurovision will have heard the songs multiple times online already. If she can give a powerful enough performance on the night, I believe it can stick.

DebDynamite · 02-03-2015 2:55am

If you search "Ireland Eurovision 2015" on YouTube, the first result is Nikki Kavanagh, the next one is Erika, then Kat Mahon and then finally Molly, and that's not even the official video, just a still of Molly with the song playing. You have to scroll through 7 videos to find the video of Molly singing in the Late Late Eurosong and it's not even titled Eurosong winner or whatever. There's an official video for the song, but unless you search for the artist and title (which many people will not know), it doesn't come up when you search "Ireland Eurovision 2015".

Please sort it out, powers that be! It shouldn't have to that hard to find it.

Here is the official video for the song: http://youtu.be/8Jjokf5Xx4w

That video needs to be in the public domain, rather than the Eurosong one, as the staging wasn't great on it.

Wonder would Niall Horan give an aul' tweet of the video!

Edit: Apologies, link didn't work. Don't know how to post YouTube videos on mobile.

Storm 10 · 02-03-2015 10:23am

Fixed it for u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jjokf5Xx4w&feature=youtu.be

DebDynamite · 02-03-2015 12:56pm

Storm 10 wrote: »

Fixed it for u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jjokf5Xx4w&feature=youtu.be

Thanks Storm

Even this video doesn't say Ireland Eurovision 2015 in the title. They really need to sort it out.

bpb101 · 02-03-2015 9:24pm

DebDynamite wrote: »

Thanks Storm

Even this video doesn't say Ireland Eurovision 2015 in the title. They really need to sort it out.

That is because this video wasent put up by rte , Rather by molly herself , pre selection

bpb101 · 02-03-2015 9:28pm

just checked the odds , Italy are favorite with @2/1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SseQQ5roUEc

Has there been any non English winners in the last 15 years????

I wouldnt be picking it as a winner

Gits_bone · 02-03-2015 9:33pm

Lena anyways

DebDynamite · 02-03-2015 11:00pm

bpb101 wrote: »

That is because this video wasent put up by rte , Rather by molly herself , pre selection

No, I know that. They should change it now though. These days it's all about promotion and getting your song out there and creating a buzz in the couple of months leading up to the live show.

bpb101 · 02-03-2015 11:06pm

DebDynamite wrote: »

No, I know that. They should change it now though. These days it's all about promotion and getting your song out there and creating a buzz in the couple of months leading up to the live show.

Months to go though,
I start looking at them all around april, not until they are all in

yerwanthere123 · 03-03-2015 12:03am

bpb101 wrote: »

just checked the odds , Italy are favorite with @2/1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SseQQ5roUEc

Has there been any non English winners in the last 15 years????

I wouldnt be picking it as a winner

Molitva for Serbia in 2007. And I agree, I'm not feeling it as a winner at all.

thelad95 · 03-03-2015 1:07am

That Italy song is simply on a different class to every other country to be honest. I didn't think last year's song had the feel of a winner either but there you go.

bpb101 · 03-03-2015 1:11am

Hate to see that Italy haven't been in the Eurovision for years and then a few years ago , they come back and they get auto entry into the final

I didn't think Austria deserved to win it last year. If a man or a women stood up as they were and sung that, they wouldn't have won.
The Dutch deserved it

yerwanthere123 · 03-03-2015 1:16am

bpb101 wrote: »

Hate to see that Italy haven't been in the Eurovision for years and then a few years ago , they come back and they get auto entry into the final

I didn't think Austria deserved to win it last year. If a man or a women stood up as they were and sung that, they wouldn't have won.
The Dutch deserved it

Absolutely, the Dutch were robbed. Whilst I do think that Austria were a worthy winner, as you say it clearly wouldn't have won without the whole bearded lady thing. I'd have been happy for Austria to finish 3rd. You should try going over to the Digital Spy forum and saying that, you'll be shot down as a MASSIVE HOMOPHOBE!1!1!! :pac::rolleyes:

bpb101 · 03-03-2015 1:30am

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Absolutely, the Dutch were robbed. Whilst I do think that Austria were a worthy winner, as you say it clearly wouldn't have won without the whole bearded lady thing. I'd have been happy for Austria to finish 3rd. You should try going over to the Digital Spy forum and saying that, you'll be shot down as a MASSIVE HOMOPHOBE!1!1!! :pac::rolleyes:

Austria was good. But I think it a got a section of votes because of the gimmick .

Ah these days people are just looking to take offences at things.
If I was to take offence at every comment that was made to me, like most people l would make about a million euros a day everyday. But sure that another thread

Mr.Nice Guy · 03-03-2015 2:49am

Don't get the love for Italy tbh. Last year Italy was highly rated and I didn't get that one either.

Nothing's really jumped out at me so far. Belarus is one I'm warming to; I like what the violin brings. Iceland has a decent effort, but lacks a bit of 'oomph' to it and the Swedes probably would package a song like that better. Even these would only be what I'd consider dark horses.

The Finnish entry has the kind of story behind it that would tend to do well, but the song is really weak which hurts its chances.

I still think we've yet to hear the winning song.

yerwanthere123 · 03-03-2015 4:03am

I agree, I think we've yet to hear the winner, although I think Estonia will be top 5, Italy top 10, and Spain top 10 also, depending on staging.

No winner in Sweden yet, although this is the favourite to be picked. Would be a pretty poor selection imo, not much of a chorus, and it's carried entirely by the staging.

yerwanthere123 · 03-03-2015 1:00pm

We'll be finding out the Australian entry from 10.30pm tomorrow night, followed by the UK on Saturday at 7pm.

Go Harvey Go · 03-03-2015 2:43pm

bpb101 wrote: »

Has there been any non English winners in the last 15 years????

Gits_bone wrote: »

Lena anyways

"Satellite" was entirely in English.

As yerwanthere123 has pointed out, Marija Šerifović won for Serbia in '07 with a song entirely in her native tongue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSueQN1QvV4

A sizeable proportion of Ruslana's "Wild Dances" was in Ukrainian, too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10XR67NQcAc

But if there is one 21st-century non-English-language Eurovision song that should not be forgotten, then surely it has to be Urban Trad's "Sanomi" - which was in an imaginary language.

It so very nearly won the '03 contest for Belgium, too - although, of course, it would have finished behind t.A.T.u. had Ireland's televote not failed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFrO6QUl61k

yerwanthere123 · 03-03-2015 6:41pm

^ Could never get my head round that Belgian entry, thought it was just so bizarre.

Father Ted Crilly · 03-03-2015 7:20pm

Ireland should use the 'My Lovely Horse' song from Father Ted. If an extended version is made, that is.

yerwanthere123 · 03-03-2015 8:32pm

Father Ted Crilly wrote: »

Ireland should use the 'My Lovely Horse' song from Father Ted. If an extended version is made, that is.

Another post that should be pinned to the beginning of the thread.

Mr.Nice Guy · 03-03-2015 10:14pm

Had a listen to some of Norway's songs on their shortlist and there's a few in there (towards the top of this fan-made list) I could see doing well. If they choose wisely they could be in with a shout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Jmy9K8DI4

bpb101 · 03-03-2015 11:11pm

11 -no
10- no
9- no
8 - no
7 -no
6 - not great - very generic
5 -no great either
4 -is this is just "umbrella"???
3- nope
2 - generic and no
1- no

sorry norway

T0001 · 03-03-2015 11:13pm

bpb101 wrote: »

11 -no
10- no
9- no
8 - no
7 -no
6 - not great - very generic
5 -no great either
4 -is this is just "umbrella"???
3- nope
2 - generic and no
1- no

sorry norway

tbh i think sweden will rule the roost in Scandanavia for a while yet, they are producing some serious music atm that is appealing to wide audiences. Unless someone can pull a winner out of the bagsweden will suck up all the votes heading to scandanavia.

BuilderPlumber · 03-03-2015 11:43pm

Go Harvey Go wrote: »

Although to be fair, I don't think many people remember Eamonn Toal and "Millennium of Love" - even though he came 6th, which remains Ireland's best finish in years beginning with 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzyVv2uIa4s

Gary O'Shaughnessy, meanwhile, is only really remembered because his placing resulted in Ireland's first and only relegation from the contest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SLEkOX9ZLY

Other Irish Eurovision acts that don't seem to be remembered by many (or, at least, are talked about much less often than Johnny, Dana, Linda, Niamh et al) are:

Colm C.T. Wilkinson - 5th in 1978 with "Born to Sing".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=934SQFtW-v8

Luv Bug - 4th in 1986 with "You Can Count on Me".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F2QR9U7SB0

Kim Jackson - 10th in 1991 with "Could It Be That I'm In Love". Neither she, nor anyone else, would have believed you if you had said that she'd be the last Irish entry to fail to win the Eurovision for four years... :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtUsuOmaC90

And here's the only time Ireland sent something in Gaeilge - Sandie Jones and "Ceol an Ghrá" in 1972. I don't think she deserved to finish as low as 15th...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M46Xf2Eik4

Looking back on Ireland's recent enough years perhaps reveals we did not do quite as poorly as most think we did. Fair enough, we have not won it since 1996 but we came second in 1997 and our results for 1998, 2000, 2006, and 2011 were overall very good. Results for 2003 and 2012 were also decent. We forget these overall and remember instead Gary O'Shaughnessy, Ryan Dolan, Chris Doran, Dervish, etc. coming last or very close to it and Dustin, Donna & Joe, etc. not even qualifying.

But no one knows with this. Why does Ireland place decently with Eamonn Toal's song in 2000 and Gary O'Shaughnessy can only manage to finish at the bottom a year later? Why was MJ Harte doing better than Chris Doran despite singing what were similar type songs? Why did Jedward give us our best showing in years in 2011 and performed less well a year later? And so on.

Block voting, being on the periphery of Europe, more powerful marketing campaigns, etc. have all been blamed for why Ireland has done poorly. But the truth is from the very start singers both famous and not famous have done well for Ireland on a given night and have done poorly as well.

bpb101 · 04-03-2015 12:18am

T0001 wrote: »

tbh i think sweden will rule the roost in Scandanavia for a while yet, they are producing some serious music atm that is appealing to wide audiences. Unless someone can pull a winner out of the bagsweden will suck up all the votes heading to scandanavia.

just to rub in the pain a bit , That 6th also includes semi finals

A lot of people hated jedwards and quite frankly they a puppets. But they got a solid 8th and they cant even sing . So the gimick does work. It didnt work as well when they had to take down their hair for the second one

Though there is a lot to be said if molly just goes out there, Without the backing singers and the violin players and whoever else was with her go to the far back of the stage and she just sits there and plays a grand piano. In a dark setting ,Simular to the music video . I think that would be the best .
I hate the way it is done on the 2meter *2 meter lls stage . joke really considering (not that i watch the shíte ) the voice and the all ireland talent show is would be a good stage to do it on.

Go Harvey Go · 04-03-2015 2:33am

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Why was MJ Harte doing better than Chris Doran despite singing what were similar type songs?

I don't think there are that many similarities between "We've Got the World" and "If My World Stopped Turning", TBH.

Other than the fact, of course, that they were both chosen on You're A Star, and also the fact that they both have "world" in their respective titles.

Why did Jedward give us our best showing in years in 2011 and performed less well a year later?

"Waterline" simply wasn't as good as "Lipstick".

Also, all eyes in 2012 were on Loreen - whereas in 2011 there was no obvious winner. (The bookies actually made France favourites...)

Block voting, being on the periphery of Europe, more powerful marketing campaigns, etc. have all been blamed for why Ireland has done poorly.

But the real reason is... RTE really don't want to host the thing again.

After all, having to host it four times in five years must have placed a pretty big strain on their finances...

T0001 · 04-03-2015 11:49am

How much does it cost to stage the whole thing. I read that norway paid €18m overall in 2010 and germany paying c. €10m. Surely there cant be that much of a difference year to year?

bpb101 · 04-03-2015 12:05pm

T0001 wrote: »

How much does it cost to stage the whole thing. I read that norway paid €18m overall in 2010 and germany paying c. €10m. Surely there cant be that much of a difference year to year?

yeah there would. Norway are extremely expensive for everything.

yerwanthere123 · 04-03-2015 12:18pm

T0001 wrote: »

How much does it cost to stage the whole thing. I read that norway paid €18m overall in 2010 and germany paying c. €10m. Surely there cant be that much of a difference year to year?

Depends on the effort they put in. Azerbaijan went all out and spent something like €50m on it.

thelad95 · 04-03-2015 12:27pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Depends on the effort they put in. Azerbaijan went all out and spent something like €50m on it.

To be fair, Azerbaijan had a lot to do what with building all the walls so the visitors don't see the poverty :cool: and they built a new arena pretty much from scratch. Kind of puts us holding it in a cow shed in 1993 to shame.

bpb101 · 04-03-2015 12:41pm

thelad95 wrote: »

To be fair, Azerbaijan had a lot to do what with building all the walls so the visitors don't see the poverty :cool: and they built a new arena pretty much from scratch. Kind of puts us holding it in a cow shed in 1993 to shame.

was grand

yerwanthere123 · 04-03-2015 2:01pm

Ah I think Millstreet put on a good show in fairness. And anyway, the competition has amplified in scale times ten since then, can hardly compare Eurovision now to Eurovision then.

It still seems surreal that it was held in Millstreet though. I don't remember it cause I was far too young, but I wouldn't be a stranger to the town cause I've got family living there. It really has got nothing about it, seems so bizarre that Eurovision was held there

BuilderPlumber · 04-03-2015 10:07pm

Go Harvey Go wrote: »

I don't think there are that many similarities between "We've Got the World" and "If My World Stopped Turning", TBH.

Other than the fact, of course, that they were both chosen on You're A Star, and also the fact that they both have "world" in their respective titles.

"Waterline" simply wasn't as good as "Lipstick".

Also, all eyes in 2012 were on Loreen - whereas in 2011 there was no obvious winner. (The bookies actually made France favourites...)

But the real reason is... RTE really don't want to host the thing again.

After all, having to host it four times in five years must have placed a pretty big strain on their finances...

Yes. True.

After listening to some of these again for the first time in ages: I think MJ Harte's song was stronger than C Doran's. Similar to an extent but not identical. Still, the relative success of the likes of Eamonn Toal, MJ Harte and Dawn Martin proves that relative unknowns can still do well in this contest. Dana was a total unknown at the time too and Johnny L and Linda Martin (the first times around) were relatively unknown too.

Agreed. Lipstick was a far better song and performance than Waterline. Perhaps too there was a bit of resting on one's laurels here: 2011 was the best result in years, just let it happen again! No promotion as much!

Some years have had a clear winner who everyone voted for. Lordi, Fairytale for Norway and Loreen all being examples not to mention the bearded one

RTE most certainly don't want to host it again. In recent years, I have seen them mess with the song between when it won to represent us and when it appeared in the final or semi final itself.

Would or could they go as far as influencing the Eurovision itself by making sure the vote never puts Ireland into the number one position? I doubt if they would go that far but who knows ...

yerwanthere123 · 04-03-2015 11:55pm

Greece

Pretty dull, tbh. Although we'd know all about dull ballads this year

22/40 picked so far, with Australia to come later tonight. What are your favourite songs picked so far? Estonia and Spain are the only two I can say I properly like and seek out to listen.

yerwanthere123 · 05-03-2015 12:00am

Oh Australia have just announced their entry, it's Guy Sebastian. Not a bad pick. No song yet though.

MelanieC · 05-03-2015 2:17am

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Oh Australia have just announced their entry, it's Guy Sebastian. Not a bad pick. No song yet though.

Who's Guy Sebastian?

Go Harvey Go · 05-03-2015 2:44am

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Some years have had a clear winner who everyone voted for. Lordi, Fairytale for Norway and Loreen all being examples not to mention the bearded one

Conchita only ran away with it at the end, though - before that, he and the Netherlands were more or less neck and neck.

And there are several people on this thread who are still disappointed that the Dutch didn't win...

In recent years, I have seen [RTE] mess with the song between when it won to represent us and when it appeared in the final or semi final itself.

Kasey last year springs to mind...

MelanieC wrote: »

Who's Guy Sebastian?

This, er, guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N6O0xI3A2o

yerwanthere123 · 06-03-2015 12:34am

Germany

Pretty bland imo. All very weird in Germany tonight though, Andreas Kümmert actually won, and then announced he didn't want to take part, so instead runner up Ann Sophie would represent Germany instead. Weird

23/40 picked now, I must say I think the overall standard is very poor so far.

XxMCRxBabyxX · 06-03-2015 12:36am

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Germany

Pretty bland imo. All very weird in Germany tonight though, Andreas Kümmert actually won, and then announced he didn't want to take part, so instead runner up Ann Sophie would represent Germany instead. Weird

23/40 picked now, I must say I think the overall standard is very poor so far.

He'd waited until he'd won to pull out? Any reason given?

yerwanthere123 · 06-03-2015 1:05am

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

He'd waited until he'd won to pull out? Any reason given?

From Wiwibloggs

But Andreas then dropped a bombshell, announcing that he did not want to represent the country after all, effectively removing himself from the competition and giving the victory to Ann Sophie. The crowd were not happy with Andreas, but gave Ann Sophie a well deserved ovation following her “winning” reprise.

Oh dear!

jimmythedivil · 06-03-2015 1:37am

Go Harvey Go wrote: »

Yes... it is indeed that time of year once again.

I think it came round well before Friday night, TBH.

But should Niamh Kavanagh's fellow redhead, Sonia, have won in '93?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ_tOw6lfIY

She led during the middle stages of the voting, before Niamh went back in front when the UK (funnily enough, but unsurprisingly) gave her their douze points.

And then, of course, with 11 points between the two and all the other countries having given their votes, the Maltese jury had to be called back following technical difficulties...

The winning act was still part-Irish, though.

Marc Roberts' 2nd place to Katrina and the Waves in '97 remains Ireland's most recent top-five finish.

In '98, Dawn Martin (no relation to Linda, AFAIK) came 9th, but stood no chance against Dana International. And in '99, the Mullans got the first 12 of the night (from Lithuania) but not much else besides, and finished 17th.

Mickey Joe Harte really couldn't have beaten Sertab Erener in '03, and no-one could have beaten Lordi in '06.

No-one could have beaten Loreen in '12, either - and I think even John and Edward would agree there.

Wasn't there some controversy in 1995 about our entry Dreaming? The tune was supposedly identical to an old pop song called Moondance, there was talk of it being thrown out at one stage!

I also remember the song that won that year for Norway was pretty much an instrumental by an Irish violinist, apparently there is or was some regulation stating that a song had to have a certain amount of singing in it to be considered suitable for Eurovision and that this particular tune broke the rules!

The Mullans getting the first 12 points from Lithuania still must be one of our stranger Eurovision moments.

95 and 96 are still my favourite Eurovision winning songs. I don't think anything in the last ten years has even come close to them.

BuilderPlumber · 06-03-2015 5:26pm

jimmythedivil wrote: »

Wasn't there some controversy in 1995 about our entry Dreaming? The tune was supposedly identical to an old pop song called Moondance, there was talk of it being thrown out at one stage!

Yes, and the melody went even further back ... to an obscure 1958 song called My Love.

I also remember the song that won that year for Norway was pretty much an instrumental by an Irish violinist, apparently there is or was some regulation stating that a song had to have a certain amount of singing in it to be considered suitable for Eurovision and that this particular tune broke the rules!

Have to listen to that entry again. There was singing on it but how much I am not sure. Remember it was not at all unlike Ireland's The Voice from the next year. Celtic mystic style.

The Mullans getting the first 12 points from Lithuania still must be one of our stranger Eurovision moments.

95 and 96 are still my favourite Eurovision winning songs. I don't think anything in the last ten years has even come close to them.

How many times did we see getting 12 at first and then it did not work out as well after? Albeit we did do ok enough in most situations. The Celtic styled 95 and 96 winners were overall good and whether they'd win now I am unsure. But generally I always prefer a Eurovision song that mixes some ethnic musical heritage into the mix. Regardless of whether they win or not.

07-03-2015 6:24pm

Been catching up on the entries I hadn't listened to yet.

Belarus - The violins are nice. Everything else about it is not. Non-qualifier I reckon.

Slovenia - It might be a grower; it's got a very simple and catchy chorus and she's got an interesting voice, reminds me of Duffy only less squeaky. They need to fix the staging 'cause it looks very amateur at the moment but I'd be surprised if it didn't make the final though.

Hungary - This one is frustrating: the melody is lovely, the vocals are lovely but the lyrics are pure shcmaltz. I'd like it much more if it was in Hungarian and I didn't know what they were singing about! Will probably qualify but can see it getting more jury support than public.

Denmark - One McFly is (more than) enough, thank you very much. On the plus side, it's nowhere near as awful as what they sent last year.

Greece - Zzzzzz......

Moldova - No. Just no.

Germany - It's not terrible but not particularly memorable either. Can't imagine many people rushing to vote for it.

Italy - It isn't bad, I suppose, but it's really not my cup of tea at all. Regardless I don't see it as a winner.

Serbia - Meh, Eurovision by numbers really. Strong voice though, and she gets a bonus point for not singing in English.

Switzerland - Something very disjointed about this. Needs a stronger chorus. Don't see it making much impact.

If I had to pick a top 5 so far (not including Ireland which, going by the standard thus far, is actually one of the better songs this year imo!), I'd probably go with Latvia, Finland, Spain, Slovenia and.....Estonia, I suppose. Am hoping the best is yet to come but probably shouldn't be too optimistic.

Mr.Nice Guy · 07-03-2015 10:12pm

It took me a while to get on the Estonia bandwagon but I'm now on board. Really like that song now.

Welsh Megaman · 07-03-2015 10:40pm

Alexandra Burke?

Sam Bailey?

Toni Di Bart?

Sean Maguire?

John Alford? :pac:

Welsh Megaman · 07-03-2015 10:50pm

Electro wha?

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-03-07/electro-velvet-to-represent-uk-at-eurovision-song-contest-2015

T0001 · 07-03-2015 10:50pm

Wtf??? Now UK, you're not taking it seriously ;P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniaB0xchTY

Un Croissant · 07-03-2015 10:55pm

I'm going to go against every YouTube comment and say that I actually like the song.

It is the Eurovision remember.

Welsh Megaman · 07-03-2015 10:55pm

T0001 wrote: »

Wtf??? Now UK, you're not taking it seriously ;P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniaB0xchTY

Gotta get my zoot suit cleaned and pressed for May!

To me, sounds like Cora Emerald given an EDM 'vibe', as da kids say

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