Cork GAA Discussion Thread

kilmac14 wrote: »

I think Cuthbert deserves as much support as possible. He has to built almost a brand new team and has some of the best young talent in the country to work with. If he gets his system right and gets the players to buy into it then you'd never know what might happen.

Look at Donegal and Jim McGuinness. When he took over they were a disgrace of a team, but with a lot of hard work and a system that the players bought into he delivered an All Irealnd, with lets be honest a fairly average footballing team (apart from Lacey, McFadden and Murphy) the rest were work horses who worked their socks off for the manager.

If Cuthbert can get the young players to buy into the way he does things then I think we are more that capable of challenging for the All Ireland. If Cuthbert can get the team primed and ready for a Munster Final down the Pairc against the crowd next door then I think we might be looking at the very least an All Ireland semi final (depending on other provinces that is and the qualifiers)

Thats valid and fair enough,and i will go to games,but it's hard to have any real confidence in the management,its based on hope.

I dont think many within are cork are confident and from what i heard the last week ,cuthbhert was not the players prefferred choice,they wanted cleary.

On the week it has been with 3 all stars ,One cork coach resigns, another returns to coach,what he hopes is the promised land, their are two huge games on Cork county u21 hurling championship saturday night and sunday morning.


Their is stars already,stars of the future,lots of cork development players,minor ,and u21 players on here.Some great talent on show.

The blackrock douglas game was going to be epic anyway,a derby game,but they have the way the games have went with all the delays ,decided that Blackrock who were nominated to represent the city,now put douglas back in to the fray ,and the winners of sundays city final at ballinlough will go the county final.

It all worked out in the end as both these teams are hughely talented.


In regards the ist game tommorrow night in pair u rinn is midelton and Mallow.


Midleton team i expect (may be odd)change or two

T.wallis, E.mulchay,patrick o mahony, N.o reagan,D.quirke,finbarr o mahony,L.coughlan,C.walsh,s.o farell,p.nagle,b.o sullivan,p farrell,lehane,(captain)s.moore,M.Aberneth

Pat hartnett,manager,denis mulchay and Ger fitz floating around their.

Mallow (again may be a change or two)
P.BUCkley ,j o hanlon,k o connor,d sheehan,p buckley,c murphy,a luttrell,p healy,c hannon,a sheehan,k sheehan(captain)p herihly.b murphy ,yassin browne and s.hayes
Ryan harkin may start


Tadhg O Riordain Manager,John Foley,and Johnny Walsh selectors.

Its meant to be dry tommorrow.Up to last week i would of said Mallow had a great chance ,but with Lehane (2-10 last week,1-13 against bishoptown ,even troubled shane o neill at times, and 5- 48 in the senior championship)if he is half that form could blow Mallow away.


Hes goal,in the all ireland final where he started 40 yards out ,and scored one of the best ever to grace a final proved ,on he's day the best in the country not to mind the county wont hold him.

They are a serious team even without their "superman" ,won the last three east cork titles ,beat a very good duhallow in the county in 2011,have around six of that panel, and have the wallis ,,the two o mahonys,cormac walsh (played like many of last weeks team senior in 2011.)lehane and Bud Hartnett.


They have blized everyone they met so far.People wonder are they tired with a lot of the senior lads,i doubt it,as those lads are in top fitness due to David Geary at senior,and are on such a high after sunday ,with the six day break they will be fine.

Theres huge expierence,with this team,Mallow are a fine team,but are very young in that they have 13 of the team avaible next year and a lot of their team lost a close county final to the rockies who dont loose many at that grade.

This should be fast open hurling.

The key is who marks lehane,he has to be man marked,in he will drift from the half forward line in to full so mallow to have any chance must mark him.

I was told wednesday night,Cormac Murphy(u21 and played waterford crystal at half forward for cork this year)is with Alec luttrell the only two that will do it.

They probaly will go with murphy as he has more expierence than lutterll,still a novice at this grade.

I personally would put Alec luttrell on him.A cert for minors next year,should of started this year.


The key is that if luttrell is being cleaned out,to move him fast,and also to tell him if hes a bad game he wont be judged on it,as lehane is physically,and expiernce wise further down the line and at different stages in their career.

The message should be do what you can,its a learning curve,and whatever happens,they will be better days ,and you wont have to mark lehane every game.

Of all the team,i feel he has the best talents to do it,pace,hurl both sides,great under the high ball,but not a dirty player but has aggression and never takes a step back.Born in tippereary,he is a real real talent.

Stephen Moore or bud hartnett on killan o connor(dual minor)is a mouthwatering tussle.



Pat Healy is a great worker ,and with connor hannon wont give much away,but o farell is much the same for midelton.


But Cormac Walsh is the standout player here ,a future cork senior,is similar to Mickey O 'Connell in that he can arrow points anywhere from half way.

Real pace,a senior the last two years,would have started at half back for cork u21 bar a shoulder injury in may.

Since he came back,he has been pheomomal ,started with two junior games,was on fire ,came on against na piarsaigh got 3 points in the senior semi final.

Came on in heavy conditions last week,and showed real,bite,and stamina.

If Midelton get a run in Munster i expect him to start sooner than later.

The battle betwee kevin sheehan and finbarr o mahony is well matched.

Aron sheehan and darren quirke another good match up.

Pa herihly,hampered by injury ,could cause lesile coughlan problems as herihly on hes day is a handful.

Sean Hayes on Patrick O Mahony ,will be very interesting to watch.


Patrick is a fine corner back as shown by a great second half last sunday,but hayes,is big,and strong,a great hand ,is the type of player that causes mahony problems.


Hayes is inexpierenced though at this level,a minor for cork next year,compared to o mahony who has a county medal,two years of senior club behind him,may give him the edge.


Mallow beat a very good fermoy team trained by Denis ring,and beat duhallow also, there an excellent team,but i feel,Midelton with their expierence,the highs of last week and also the buzz with the school in both the harty and dean ryan cup doing well,still in the senior hurling league semifinal ,are on the crest of a wave at the moment and will win .

Then you add in lehane and that influence may decide by how much.

But mallow will have their day at this grade in the future.


I do not mind who wins as both teams have a lot of very good players ,and potential on different cork teams in the future.

May the best team win.

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I was only talking to a buddy a few days ago and thought it was a joke that Ballincollig were not challenging at both codes. They have a ridiculous base of potential players. And they are right to get into the primary schools - that's where the future of any club is.

Cobh is another place that will make good progress in the years ahead. They are sending coaches in the schools there for the last few years and doing very good work indeed. One of the schools in Cobh hadn't been in a Sciath na Scoil final in years, 2 last year and are in 1 next week aswell. Coaching kids at that age is how a club can develop in later years.

Absoultey ,spot on.

Douglas done the same with eddie murphy doing great work in the schools down their.Won the minor football,u21 hurling semifrnal.

They are the coming team in hurling in a few years.

keep going wrote: »

Sher we hear everything, I heard it that they didnt want cleary.truth be told different players are bound to have different preferences and anyway is there any point in talking about it now

Thats fair enough ...how long is a piece of string.

Perception of somebody is different with different folks.
But cleary had the better record,all hes teams could play fast open brand of football.

Youre right in that theres nothing we can do now but wait and c,but theres talks in some circles that this set up is a dream team.

It could prove to be but we have nothing to base it on.

Unlike irish soccer and rubgy where there is two managers proven at the elite level ,we are a team going in on hope.

While limerick set up looks far from golden,they have o grady proven at that level.


Fermanagh appointed peter mcgrath as manager.

Cork must surely be the most inexpierenced set up in town,definetly among the top 8.


On a slighly different topic,i read michael deasy,kilbrittain hurler ,playing up to a few years ago,i remember seeing him with ross cashman and jamie wall,is the strength and conditiong coach with western samoa rubgy.


He said hurling is he's first love and will always be,he is just 25, and would love to be a strength and conditiong coach with a team ,he would come home in the future.


Its guys like him Ed coughlan,eanna falvey from the lions ,should be earmarked and put on the radar within cork that if they do come home,with their expierence of coaching professional teams ,it would be of immense benfit to cork if they were used as fitness,strength coaches etc down the line.


Michael must be highly regared,as samoans renowned for their strength wouldnt take just anyone.
Jerry flannery and johnny o connor are doing the same with arsenal youngsters,and soccer like hurling,the way arsenal play is a game of speed.

But their expertise can be used also.


I said it many times here cork have top top people,in different sports aeras that have proven themselves with other teams furthe r afield,we don't need to get in men from outside ,most of the time.


Deasy is a classic example of a cork guy learning hes trade,broadening hes expertise in another field,but wont be gone for too long at all.


I d say in a few years don't be suprised to see him with an intercounty team ,as unlike us,other counties will be aware of him.

Cork people are supremely talented,very unique and can match the best in any field,and we have proven that down the years.
Their in cork,we must just look hard enough and give them the chance.
Fair play to him.

Its not just talented players Cork loose to proffessional sport.

Four ladies all stars still going on by all accounts,o reilly,flynn,corkey and the one and only juliet the legend.

Kate leneghan cork munster young player of the year.

North Cork Star wrote: »

I was at both the Minor A Football Final and Under 21 A Hurling Semi Final today!

In the football, Castlehaven beat Micheal MacCarthaighs (Buttevant) 1-11 to 0-7! In the first half it looked very even between the sides with the score 0-5 to 0-3 to Castlehaven but in the second half they totally took over and I'm impressed to hear ten of their players are Under 16. Well done to Buttevant for getting this far, a small club in terms of football now showing their hard work put in at underage. Castlehaven, a football stronghold are doing well keeping the conveyor belt of talent going.

In the hurling, I thought this was a great game! End to end stuff! Dramatic in the finish! Lehane's second half cameo with a few scores on the trot, and two great frees were the difference. But, it was the man that was marking him I was most impressed with, centre back, Cormac Murphy. He did an excellent job marking Lehane in this game, considering Lehane's superb form at the moment and also swept up an unbelievable amount of ball and in my opinion should be offered a try out next year by JBM for Cork! Others that played well were Patrick O'Mahoney, Stephen Moore, Killian Burke and Cormac Walsh for Midleton and Cillian O'Connor, Podge Buckley, Alec Luttrell, Kevin Sheehan and Aaron Sheehan for Mallow. Mallow probably deserved a draw but in fairness to Midleton, they held on in the end!

A superb game,it was , this was fast open hurling,warm the blood on a freezing night.


The teams lined out pretty much as expected but hayes was a big loss.What was the story with him.
Burke moving to midfield,with quirke dropping back.

I had said last night that midelton would win,and lehane would dicatate by how much .Thats what happened.


Lehane could be said played bad.But that would be juding him by hes own standards that are extremely high.


He played,good stood up when the need was greatest .Great players dont just rely on reputation,they build on character within.He showed plenty of it,when the team needed him.

When Mallow drew level,twice in the closing minutes,the character they showed i thought it was great.A draw would have been welcomed by all,bar midelton,and understandably as a lot of their players have a senior club munster game next week,and still have to play Na piarsaigh in the semi final of the hurling league with a possible rematch with Sarsfields in the final.

But as you said Murphy was outstanding,he really tore in to him,and he was as you said unreal.I had said that hes expierence would probably earn him the role,but i would thought luttrell had the best talents for it.

Hartnett for all he's senior expierence,didnt sparkle at all.Burke moving to midfield with farell gave them an edge , he hurled a lot of ball.


I thought herihly played well ,didnt get a lot of fast ball,but hes goal was a good start.

But Murphy really was super.Hes time with ucc,is really helping him.Im nt sure if hes centre back at inter county level but midfield maybe.Midfield or half forward is he's best position.


Hes form dipped in the summer but he was top notch tonight.


I thought o conor had the better of moore overall,moore tends to fade out,but still credit due put in a good display.


Coughlan at centre back was troubled by sheehan ,and finbarr o mahony at half back had a good game.


Cormac walsh impressed me and this guy has a super touch.

Luttrell,was brillant,hes so young and learning.Really grew in to the game,and some super catches.A day when hes on the cork minor panel,it was a great display.

Three more years at u21 for him.Some talent.


I thought harkin tried hard but burke used hes expierence well.

Killan o connor showed why full back is hes best and only position.I hope the u21 management know this.


This mallow team i said would win this grade in the future,and after tonight im convinced.

A well coached,and drilled outfit.credit to them.

Midelton expierence and class of lehane ,must have got around 8 points in total was always a bonus and their a very good team that will take beating in the final.


They lost an u15 final to sars today by two poins but won the u14 semifinal.
A long bright future ahead.

Best of luck to mallow u16 footballers in the county final against Bantry tommorrow.After tonights loss i would like to see the club get some success.

Tonight their was no real looser as in truth,a great night for mallow,and with 13 availble next year are in a great place,and Cork hurling was the real winner ,as it showed the under age talent cork has.

If Douglas and the Rockies is half as good tommorrow it will be some match.

Congratualitions to Liscarolls Geraldine O'Flynn who won Ladies Player of the year and the Corks famous five,who won all stars,Valerie Mulchay, Deidre O Reilly,Briedge Corkery,Juliet Murphy,and Geraldine O Flynn.

North Cork Star wrote: »

The future of hurling in Mallow is bright after tonight! 13 Under 21 next and should make the push for the county. Is Cormac Murphy still Under 21 next year?! It would be great if he was.
Sean Hayes was sick all week and wasn't fit for a full game, he was missed inside near the goal.
Pa Herlihy has the potential but just didn't get the break of the ball in the second half.
I hope to see Mallow make a big push at Premier Intermediate level with all the talent they have!

Yasin browne and sheehan are only overage.

Hayes would have caused problems for o mahony.A big loss.

Orizio wrote: »

Anyone have the MIdleton/Mallow squads.

I posted their squads and douglas blackrock squad a page back if you look.

Douglas and the Rockies postponed.

It will suit Mideleton.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Douglas and the Rockies postponed.

It will suit Mideleton.

Douglas/Blackrock match being played as we post

Douglas 2-11 Rockies 3-16
Rockies and midelton in county final.

Some final it will be.

kilbrin v grenagh up next

Ballina are going to be a serious test for youghal,they have pat cosgrave,at full back,thomas collins centre back and Michel breen their ace forward and have james logue also.


Michael breen along with James Logue and Steven O Brien have made the 45 man Tippeary panel .They must be very good club hurlers.
Leigh desmond got man of the match yesterday,finally hitting the heights he is capable of.

Grace is a fine solid club full back for Youghal and has been around a while but faces a completely different test Sunday.
Speaking of Tipperary ,they have recruited Kieran macgeeney in a mental preparation role.He is to work with Armagh still.
I had expected Tipp under O shea to make a serious push next year but with that appointnent id wonder.Macgeeney is way over hyped and surely he wont come cheap even in a mental coaching role.
It looks like Tipp are going down clare and corks route ,in terms of focussing on speed.Gary ryan ex olympic sprinter has joined them as fitness trainer.


An interesting shift away from physicality the way the game is evolving.

Eddie enright i thought was joining them.It seems not hopefully he stays with ucc.

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In relation to yesterdays St Colum Mtichelstown game.
It was a joke.How in the name jesus they didnt know this was going to happen.

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Beyond stupid.

At ground level you could pick them out,just slightly looking across the ptich.The problem for a player,on the ptich was way worse a corner back trying to pick out a half forward,had no chance.

And add in the driving rain in second half darkened the orange colour.

As you said beyond stupid ,the socks couldnt even be separated.