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Possible predictions of false flag spectaculars at London's 2012 Olympics.

  • 13-05-2012 6:21pm
    #1
    Run_to_da_hills
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    The agenda of the global elite is to establish a single world government that will ultimately lead to the enslavement of mankind.

    Every false flag that this EVIL establishment pulls off "successfully" (IE to those that believe it from mainstream media) brings us that bit closer to this agenda.

    Since the whole world will soon be focused upon this giant Illuminati propaganda platform no better a way than to draw attention to the multitudes than would be to pull off a major spectacular.

    Many of us are already aware on how this elite organisation expresses itself through its persistent use of symbols and codes portrayed through its corporate controlled media machine.

    Some interesting CT's and trivia on the subject that I have come up with that may be worth considering. Let you be the judge.

    Stop this video 4 seconds in and notice what happens to Big Ben.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0u_Zjeuns0


    London Olympics 2012 possible prediction in 1995 Illuminati Card Game

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s-UWBzZiG0


    Further interesting reading and trivia.

    http://whale.to/c/rik_clay_2012.html#Symbology_Of_The_Number_11_(11:11)


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  • #2
    Torakx
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    Interesting first video.
    Was that tracksuit of the foot knocking down big ben a masonic blue? :D
    Also interesting that the olympics does bring the world together,maybe in more than one way.

    Haha just watched the second one.
    1:20 in for big ben getting knocked over and the olympic colours on the card for that one.
    Coincedance?
    Maybe there will be something going down.
    If so who do you think are the terrorists this time?

    Ok it seems on closer inspection Rick Clay thinks its going to be aliens O.o
    Im guessing he obviously means "aliens" though.


  • #3
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Torakx wrote: »
    Interesting first video.
    Was that tracksuit of the foot knocking down big ben a masonic blue? :D
    Also interesting that the olympics does bring the world together,maybe in more than one way.
    Notice they also end up in Egypt in the first video. :p


    mli0ps.jpg


  • #4
    Monty Burnz
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Stop this video 4 seconds in and notice what happens to Big Ben.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0u_Zjeuns0
    More unnecessary clues! Perfect for amateur detectives!

    scooby_doo_1492748c.jpg


  • #5
    Run_to_da_hills
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    Couple of interesting ones here. Again Let you be the judge

    10 August 2008 the series "Code 9" was produced for BBC television.

    "The series begins in 2012 (just after the 2012 Summer Olympics), when London and some of the south east has been evacuated in the wake of a nuclear attack during the opening ceremony of the Games. The government has relocated to Manchester; Thames House has been decommissioned, and MI5 is forced to set up offices across the UK in an attempt to help Britain avoid new attacks".

    Extract from actual August 2008 BBC Code 9 series.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5voq1On4vw4


    Breakdown of the above and comparison to a similar pre 7 7 BBC documentation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpTMXuh5DxQ


  • #6
    Jonny7
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    You sound very keen for something to happen.


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  • #7
    Run_to_da_hills
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    Jonny7 wrote: »
    You sound very keen for something to happen.
    Put it another way, I would not be over there myself.


  • #8
    Jonny7
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Put it another way, I would not be over there myself.

    Fair enough, but you are only convincing yourself.

    There are doomsayers with placards all over the world, end of the world cults, apocalyptic predictions.. none of it ever comes true..

    It's only real in the mind(s) or the person or people preaching it.


  • #9
    Torakx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    You sound very keen for something to happen.
    So was that your breakdown/contribution to the thread?:rolleyes:<-- ah thats how you do that smiley lol


  • #10
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Fair enough, but you are only convincing yourself.

    There are doomsayers with placards all over the world, end of the world cults, apocalyptic predictions.. none of it ever comes true..

    It's only real in the mind(s) or the person or people preaching it.
    Perhaps if people were more vigilant in the run up to 9/11 many more lives may have been saved.


  • #11
    Torakx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    A good rule of thumb is to maybe stay clear of mass events and highly insured buildings of note ^^


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  • #12
    humanji
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Perhaps if people were more vigilant in the run up to 9/11 many more lives may have been saved.
    How many Finnish people died in 9/11?


  • #13
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    humanji wrote: »
    How many Finnish people died in 9/11?
    How much Finnish people would anyone expect to be working in high ranking banking and Administration in the Twin Towers?


  • #14
    Jonny7
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    How much Finnish people would anyone expect to be working in high ranking banking and Administration in the Twin Towers?

    There's a list of the foreign nationalities

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_September_11_attacks


  • #15
    King Mob
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Perhaps if people were more vigilant in the run up to 9/11 many more lives may have been saved.
    I'm surprised that this piece of vile mistruth is still doing the rounds.

    Not very surprised that you've swallowed it unthinkingly though.


  • #16
    UglyBolloxFace
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0u_Zjeuns0

    Anyone else notice that as Big Ben is being pushed over, the clock's hands are at 911.

    :eek:


  • #17
    namloc1980
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    UglyBolloxFace wrote: »
    Anyone else notice that as Big Ben is being pushed over, the clock's hands are at 911.

    :eek:

    Looks more like they are at 10:45 :eek::eek:


  • #18
    Run_to_da_hills
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    Torakx wrote: »
    Ok it seems on closer inspection Rick Clay thinks its going to be aliens O.o
    Im guessing he obviously means "aliens" though.

    Take a look at the ufo's in the first Olympic promotional cartoon and then look at this :D

    A lot of interesting talk on "martial law', "world on red alert" etc and notice the eye at .34 seconds. :eek:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CucJMmeasrI


  • #19
    Monty Burnz
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Take a look at the aliens in the first Olympic promotional cartoon and then look at this :D

    A lot of interesting messages on martial law, "world on red alert" etc and notice the eye at .34 seconds. :eek:
    This is all very convincing proof. Imagine, an eye. Wow.

    I think I found another false flag clue - a terror attack involving some sort of train crash/sabotage.



  • #20
    Run_to_da_hills
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    This is all very convincing proof. Imagine, an eye. Wow.

    I think I found another false flag clue - a terror attack involving some sort of train crash/sabotage.

    If you are going to troll post any possible false flag prediction or trivia clues could you please keep them related to topic. Ie London. :rolleyes:


    A young guy, Rik Clay did a detailed analysis of forthcoming 2012 Olympics back in 2008.

    He was the first to expose the 2012 London Olympic Games as being a Ritual Event to mark the NEW ZION. He was also the first to break down the current ZION logo used by the IOC.

    He mysteriously was murdered died in 2008. RIP.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frs_BbrXAUA


  • #21
    Jonny7
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    If you are going to troll post any possible false flag prediction or trivia clues could you please keep them related to topic. Ie London. :rolleyes:

    I am curious what do you think of this guy?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Camping


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  • #22
    hooradiation
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Take a look at the ufo's in the first Olympic promotional cartoon and then look at this :D

    A lot of interesting talk on "martial law', "world on red alert" etc and notice the eye at .34 seconds. :eek:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CucJMmeasrI

    Ohh yeah, Aliens of London. I remember that one, pretty damn average episode to be fair and had the goddamn farting Slitheen.

    Which reminds me, I should rewatch that series of Dr. Who, had some cracking episodes.


  • #23
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    I am curious what do you think of this guy?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Camping
    I wouldn't predict set dates but I would predict possible time frames. Ie events that will ultimately lead to further events.

    If there is to be major false flag occurrences at the 2012 Olympics it is without doubt that it will lead to the death knell of civil liberties as we know of them today.

    Financiial Times wrote an interesting article in late 2008 predicting an end of privacy as we know it by 2013, they also had an editorial on the possible agenda of a dictatorial world government. I do believe this paper is quite on target with their predictions.
    hooradiation wrote: »
    Ohh yeah, Aliens of London. I remember that one, pretty damn average episode to be fair and had the goddamn farting Slitheen.

    Which reminds me, I should rewatch that series of Dr. Who, had some cracking episodes.

    Ohh yeah, not to mention the Simsons back in 1997.

    x5avr4.jpg


  • #24
    hooradiation
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

    Ohh yeah, not to mention the Simsons back in 1997.

    x5avr4.jpg

    I... what?

    You've officially lost me, and this on a thread on incredibly over active pareidolia


  • #25
    gibraltar
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    hooradiation wrote: »
    I... what?

    You've officially lost me, and this on a thread on incredibly over active pareidolia

    its fairly obvious what is going on here, the makers of the simpsons knew about 9/11 years before it happened and put hints about it into the show - the same way that the makers of dr. who know about the upcoming attacks on england.

    Seems legit.


  • #26
    Run_to_da_hills
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    hooradiation wrote: »
    I... what?

    You've officially lost me, and this on a thread on incredibly over active pareidolia
    I would be vigilant about any possible predictions particularly produced directly from the IOC themselves. It would also certainly set my mind thinking about any other Zionist corporate elite mainstream produced material and their little well crafted subliminal messages.

    2ymytdt.jpg

    In the more recent disaster blockbuster 2012, lead character Jackson (Cusack) incidentally holds up a map of the the London Underground inside an RV which is based in some mountain range in the middle of Idaho.

    3xabk.jpg


  • #27
    Torakx
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    Some say hints, others say psychological conditioning.

    RTTH's was there UFO's in the olympic cartoon, or was that a joke?


  • #28
    hooradiation
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    Explanations are meant to make things clearer, as a general rule.
    Things have actually been made less clear.

    Generic blockbusters have secret messages now and the proof is an out of context still from '2012'?
    I don't suppose you've watched it and can explain the context around that image? I know I haven't but was there a reason for him to have the map of London underground out?


    And the Simpsons thing (both of them) just confuse me, I recognise the first one from "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" - I know it was pulled from syndication for a while after Sept 11th but other than that...

    No idea about the second image, wouldn't be the first time the Simpsons has bit the hand that feeds them though....


  • #29
    Run_to_da_hills
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    Torakx wrote: »
    Some say hints, others say psychological conditioning.

    RTTH's was there UFO's in the olympic cartoon, or was that a joke?
    Their representation of UFO's could quite possibly be the RQ-170 Sentinel that was given to captured by Iran or something similar of a stealth nature to that effect.

    sgspxh.jpg


  • #30
    Monty Burnz
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    If there is to be major false flag occurrences at the 2012 Olympics it is without doubt that it will lead to the death knell of civil liberties as we know of them today.
    ...and if there is no terrorism, you will claim the 'excessive' preparations were the plan, and make some more dire predictions that won't come true either. Not unlike Harold Camping.


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  • #31
    Monty Burnz
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    Torakx wrote: »
    Some say hints, others say psychological conditioning.
    Does anybody say 'completely random stuff with coincidental links'?

    If you name me any two things, I will link them for you in a couple of steps. This is what most of the weird CTs seem to be based on, yet this simple experiment shows how easy it is to do.


  • #32
    Torakx
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Does anybody say 'completely random stuff with coincidental links'?

    If you name me any two things, I will link them for you in a couple of steps. This is what most of the weird CTs seem to be based on, yet this simple experiment shows how easy it is to do.

    Suspected American underpants bomber trainer Anwar al-Awlaki and the C.I.A


  • #33
    gibraltar
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    Torakx wrote: »
    Some say hints, others say psychological conditioning.

    RTTH's was there UFO's in the olympic cartoon, or was that a joke?

    "psychological conditioning", yeah everyone was prepared for 9/11.

    What else have the simpsons been preparing us for? Really they had four years notice about 9/11 (according to RTDH) so that means a lot of current TV is preparing us for a few years from now... so whats next?

    The great thing about this question is nobody can answer it until 2016 and then they can look back at everything and say "see it was all part of the plan!"


  • #34
    hooradiation
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    I'm kinda curious what people who scour television shows for these symbols would make of some of the larger bodies of work that are only available on the internet, like Homestuck or Penny-arcade?

    Huge volumes of work there, I wonder if they'd show the same proclivity towards being full of clues to predict the future actions of the shadowy elite.


  • #35
    RoboClam
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    That whole episode was about Homer's car being stuck at the world trade centre though, so it's hardly a stretch that the bus brochure in the picture would have an image of the world trade centre.

    The Simpsons have referenced many many buildings in the 20+ years they have been on TV, the vast majority of which were not hit by airplanes.


  • #36
    Torakx
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    Do you think they reach enough of an audience to rival television?
    Sorry in esponse to hooradiation's post


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  • #37
    Run_to_da_hills
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    gibraltar wrote: »
    "psychological conditioning", yeah everyone was prepared for 9/11.

    What else have the simpsons been preparing us for? Really they had four years notice about 9/11 (according to RTDH) so that means a lot of current TV is preparing us for a few years from now... so whats next?
    Edit: What else has Illuminati Extraordinaire Rupert Murdoch got prepared for us in his corporate entertainment subliminal messages?


  • #38
    hooradiation
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    Torakx wrote: »
    Do you think they reach enough of an audience to rival television?
    Sorry in esponse to hooradiation's post

    Well PA claims a readership of 3.5Million (plus the two conventions a year they host), I know shows currently airing that wouldn't have that kind of impact.

    But I was more making the point that you could find any substantive body of work and apply what I'm going to call an "illuminati filter" to it and probably hit on something that fits.

    Texas sharpshooter fallacy and all that.

    (Though now I'm wondering why none of the other enlightenment age secret societies have become pop culture boogymen. Maybe they just didn't have a name as cool as the illuminati)


  • #39
    Torakx
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    hooradiation wrote: »
    Well PA claims a readership of 3.5Million (plus the two conventions a year they host), I know shows currently airing that wouldn't have that kind of impact.

    But I was more making the point that you could find any substantive body of work and apply what I'm going to call an "illuminati filter" to it and probably hit on something that fits.

    Texas sharpshooter fallacy and all that.

    (Though now I'm wondering why none of the other enlightenment age secret societies have become pop culture boogymen. Maybe they just didn't have a name as cool as the illuminati)

    Hmm it could be that the illuminatti's advertising campaign was a success and they are able to let others now advertise for them to gain more in their ranks,through possible subsidiary societies, gaining them greedy people who will do anything for money.

    Also nerds are quite intelligent and street wise when it comes to information i think in general.So maybe not a target audience, also considering tv is a better platform for passing ideas to masses of people with a more effective learning/programming capability.


  • #40
    hooradiation
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    Torakx wrote: »
    Hmm it could be that the illuminatti's advertising campaign was a success and they are able to let others now advertise for them to gain more in their ranks,through possible subsidiary societies, gaining them greedy people who will do anything for money.

    I just meant there were no shortage of secret societies back then, I wonder why the actual illumaniti were the ones that were chosen to be the hyper competent (but apparently not very subtle) boogymen that some people believe them to be?

    I have no reason to believe the "illumaniti rule the world" theories, but I find the fantasies constructed around them to be fascinating. It's the kind of world building any fantasy author would be proud of.
    Torakx wrote: »
    Also nerds are quite intelligent and street wise when it comes to information i think in general.

    Nerds aren't special, or even all that bright outside of their little specialisations. Though they do love to think they are.
    Five minutes spent in the company of those horrible little troglodytes will show you that.


  • #41
    Monty Burnz
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    Torakx wrote: »
    Hmm it could be that the illuminatti's advertising campaign was a success and they are able to let others now advertise for them to gain more in their ranks,through possible subsidiary societies, gaining them greedy people who will do anything for money.

    Also nerds are quite intelligent and street wise when it comes to information i think in general.So maybe not a target audience, also considering tv is a better platform for passing ideas to masses of people with a more effective learning/programming capability.

    Why would a secret society be advertising itself to the public? If I wanted to do something in secret, the last thing I would do is plant clues for the public.


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  • #42
    Torakx
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Why would a secret society be advertising itself to the public? If I wanted to do something in secret, the last thing I would do is plant clues for the public.

    Im not sure, id have to join them to ask maybe :)
    I could guess it might be a recent strategy considering how the internet has taken away alot of the mystery with many subjects.

    I could imagine some more nefarious/active groups who wished to remain hidden are having a hard time and may have decided to go with the flow.
    Its quite obvious now there is a fairly big advertising campaign in progress for illuminatti and freemasons.
    They might have to blackball alot more people,but the advertisment will also give them more and better choice of recruits.

    At a guess.


  • #43
    hooradiation
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    Torakx wrote: »
    I could guess it might be a recent strategy considering how the internet has taken away alot of the mystery with many subjects.

    Has it?
    Or has the internet just given every jackass with an opinion the ability to shout it louder and at more people than would previously be possible?


  • #44
    Monty Burnz
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    Torakx wrote: »
    Im not sure, id have to join them to ask maybe :)
    I could guess it might be a recent strategy considering how the internet has taken away alot of the mystery with many subjects.
    But these 'illuminati' symbols have been turning up in very public ways for thousands of years, so it's not a new thing.
    Torakx wrote: »
    I could imagine some more nefarious/active groups who wished to remain hidden are having a hard time and may have decided to go with the flow.
    Don't you think if these nefarious groups exist, that someone somewhere would have an interest in investigating them? Or is every single person in authority in every single country a member/under the influence of this giant conspiracy?

    Don't you see that there comes a point where this proposed conspiracy gets so big that more people are inside the group than outside it?

    It's like the gang-stalking stuff - you'd need dozens of people to stalk any one individual, and eventually everybody would be stalking everyone else. Impossible as well as ridiculous.


  • #45
    Run_to_da_hills
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Why would a secret society be advertising itself to the public? If I wanted to do something in secret, the last thing I would do is plant clues for the public.

    Why would a secret society also promote their logo and one eyed mascots?

    5w4dz.jpg

    Answer, subliminal messages and secret codes are all a part of the fun and games for the corporate elite of the Illuminati


  • #46
    brock92
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    False start in the 100m final


  • #47
    Monty Burnz
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Answer, subliminal messages and secret codes are all a part of the fun and games for the corporate elite of the Illuminati
    So they do it for fun? This is the best explanation you can manage? :confused:

    Can you name any other organisation with designs on world domination that has a collective sense of humour? The Nazis? The UN?


  • #48
    Monty Burnz
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    A young guy, Rik Clay did a detailed analysis of forthcoming 2012 Olympics back in 2008.

    He was the first to expose the 2012 London Olympic Games as being a Ritual Event to mark the NEW ZION. He was also the first to break down the current ZION logo used by the IOC.

    He mysteriously was murdered died in 2008. RIP.
    He also suggested the following, it seems:
    The most formidable one would be that Prince William would ascend as the Anti-christ following some sort of 'event' at the 2012 Olympics.
    It looks like Obama is in for some competition. :rolleyes:


  • #49
    King Mob
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Why would a secret society also promote their logo and one eyed mascots?

    5w4dz.jpg

    Answer, subliminal messages and secret codes are all a part of the fun and games for the corporate elite of the Illuminati

    But the logo does not spell zion until you alter it, much like your other example of abject dishonesty in the Denver Airport thread.
    So again, why do you have to alter and lie about things to prove your point?

    Further, your dishonest representation just makes the point that people can see whatever they want to if they look hard enough.
    http://camelsnose.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/olympic-conspiracy-simpsons350.png


  • #50
    gibraltar
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Edit: What else has Illuminati Extraordinaire Rupert Murdoch got prepared for us in his corporate entertainment subliminal messages?

    Just in case you left off the end of my quote by accident here it is;

    The great thing about this question is nobody can answer it until 2016 and then they can look back at everything and say "see it was all part of the plan!"


    So you tell us now, instead of four years from now, what exactly is being hinted at by specific messages?


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    Monty Burnz
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    gibraltar wrote: »
    Just in case you left off the end of my quote by accident here it is;

    The great thing about this question is nobody can answer it until 2016 and then they can look back at everything and say "see it was all part of the plan!"


    So you tell us now, instead of four years from now, what exactly is being hinted at by specific messages?
    Come on now - he won't be able to retro-fit suff yet!


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