Fair City [News, Spoilers and Discussion v2]

iceblue · 05-01-2012 12:03pm

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Juvenile in what way? I'm talking about the believeability or otherwise of the current Jo/Dermot storyline when it's blindingly obvious that there's a very heavily pregnant actress playing a woman whose character is unable to have children. I don't see how this storyline couldn't have been played out a month or two earlier when her pregnancy would have been less obvious. If that sounds juvenile to you, then I'm at a loss to figure out why.

for a start harry, your inability to seperate the actress from her real life is a bit juvenile....
how does it detract from the storyline?...cause as a character she cant get pregnant. cause the pregnancy isnt written in to the story?
cause she is hiding behind bags and sleeping bags and tables....
cop on.
so what she is pregnant. just ignore it. instead of acting like a teenage boy ....i have this vision of you sniggering and blushing everytime she is on telly... ?..and if you cant see whats wrong with making your two previous comments about it .....unless of course you were just trying to be funny....and i just dont get your sense of humour....and im being too serious?....

sh1tstirrer · 05-01-2012 12:19pm

Jo calls Dermot Durmit where do ye get Dermish from

cloptrop · 05-01-2012 12:27pm

how bleedin obvious was joe s bump , are fair city saying like hey she will be leaving soon look shes pregnant in real life

dirtyghettokid · 05-01-2012 1:40pm

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

Jo calls Dermot Durmit where do ye get Dermish from

because she does have a bit of a sh on the end of saying his name... it's not a hard T like one would expecTTTT...

DeepBlue · 05-01-2012 2:05pm

iceblue wrote: »

for a start harry, your inability to seperate the actress from her real life is a bit juvenile....
how does it detract from the storyline?...cause as a character she cant get pregnant. cause the pregnancy isnt written in to the story?
cause she is hiding behind bags and sleeping bags and tables....
cop on.
so what she is pregnant. just ignore it. instead of acting like a teenage boy ....i have this vision of you sniggering and blushing everytime she is on telly... ?..and if you cant see whats wrong with making your two previous comments about it .....unless of course you were just trying to be funny....and i just dont get your sense of humour....and im being too serious?....

That's OTT tbh.
To have an actor who's obviously pregnant in a role where she's supposedly not pregnant asks too much for "suspension of disbelief" to work. For a while they tried to hide it but at some point they just gave up and took the "Ah shure, till do" approach.
I suspect that the need to have the climax to the Jo/Tommy affair storyline at Chistmas/New Year dictated that Jo had to stay on board long after her pregnancy could no longer be camouflaged but it is sloppy on the part of FC.

Harry Angstrom · 05-01-2012 2:23pm

iceblue wrote: »

for a start harry, your inability to seperate the actress from her real life is a bit juvenile....

I have no problems at all with separating the actress from real life. So you think it's "juvenile" of me to highlight the fact that Jo's pregnancy is a distraction, yet the point is also being made by many other people on this thread?

You think it's "juvenile" of me to suggest that this storyline should have been played out a couple of months earlier when she would be less noticeable, or even left on the back burner until she came back to Fair City in a few months time when they wouldn't have to be using shopping bags, sleeping bags, banisters, tables and silly scarves to try to hide what is glaringly obvious and impossible to hide?

Fair City gets a lot of slagging for being a rubbish soap. It's instances like this where Fair City lets itself down completely. Sure, we see actresses on soaps all the time who get pregnant, but the writers almost always allow them to slide into the background when the bump starts to show and they certainly don't put them at the centre of a major storyline if it can be avoided. This is the sort of thing that Fair City gets rightly panned for. The writers seem to have absolutely no common sense or cop-on.

iceblue wrote: »

instead of acting like a teenage boy ....i have this vision of you sniggering and blushing everytime she is on telly...

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: And you accuse me of being juvenile??

iceblue wrote: »

i just dont get your sense of humour....and im being too serious?....

Answers on a postcard please.

cofy · 05-01-2012 2:50pm

cloptrop wrote: »

how bleedin obvious was joe s bump , are fair city saying like hey she will be leaving soon look shes pregnant in real life

I just think they should stop showing a side profile of her. This is in nearly every scene that Jo plays. It seems that they are drawing attention to her pregnancy.

cloptrop · 05-01-2012 2:57pm

cofy wrote: »

I just think they should stop showing a side profile of her. This is in nearly every scene that Jo plays. It seems that they are drawing attention to her pregnancy.

maybe its a masterstroke in fair city story telling and its tommy dillons baby , and with all the stress she didnt notice she was up the duff
she cant have kids you say? tommy dillon wouldnt take that for an answer , sure isnt it all organic

walshb · 05-01-2012 2:59pm

I don't watch any soaps apart from Fair City. I must say, it is a whole lot better than the tripe in England. The ridiculous drawn out plots, silly comedy and far fetched crap you get in Corrie and Enders makes you appreciate Fair City.

It's not perfect, granted, but compared to the ones I named, it is much better. More believeable, less ridiculous, less gloomy and far less sensationalised. Plus, it's about Dubs. Much easier to relate to.

hiscan · 05-01-2012 4:07pm

Karen23 wrote: »

Why is Niamh so keen to buy a second hand sleeping bag for Rachel's birthday present ?

Fittle wrote: »

While I thought that the acting from both Dermish and Joe was great tonight...how on earth could the writers think that trying to bring Niamh into the story by getting her to obsess about buying a 2nd hand sleeping bag from a 2nd hand shop, was a good storyline?
That was ridiculous in the extreme that she would knock on Joes door, encouraging her to open up the Shelter so she could buy the sleeping bag as a present for her step-daughters surprise party tomorrow.

I think it was due to the fact that she was sleeping in the Helping Hand.
Now what are the chances that someone would come in the very next day and want to buy the only sleeping bag in the shop.....

tonyclifton · 05-01-2012 4:32pm

I'm up all night worrying about Niamh and her terrible problem with the sleeping bag!!::)) F.F.S!!........Love F/C but in the middle of the big showdown we have her knocking on Dermot and Jo's door still asking about the goddam second hand sleeping blanket who the hell would go on such a mission for a second hand sleeping bag so unbelieveable like a little after thought by the writers or space fillers really not good enough !!!....
Apart from that Dermot played his scenes great bout time that bitch Jo got caught('',).....

so if any of you are talking to Niamh tell her i have a brand new sleeping bag I bought for the the electric picnic that I never used and she is welcome to it free of charge..and I pass by Carrickstown everyday on my way to work I could could drop it into her('',)

JP Liz V1 · 05-01-2012 5:58pm

Wed 11/01

Orla is shocked when she sees Rachel being bullied by Dave and another group of students about her stealing. Orla then goes up to Deegan and confesses what really happened to Rachel. Soon afterwards, Deegan calls to the Dillons' house and asks Caoimhe to accompany him to the station. At the same time, Rachel is still being bullied by Dave, but finally stands up to him by throwing a bag of crisps over him and walking off.
Later, Decco gets a phone call from Deegan, asking him to come down to the lock-up. He is soon horrified to learn that Caoimhe stashed all her stuff there. As the day continues, a furious Caoimhe bumps into Orla and attacks her for ratting her out. The pair part sworn enemies. In the end, Orla finally gets enough courage to tell the truth to Niamh about Rachel.
Meanwhile, Dermot finds strength in Kelly's attitude towards his break-up with Jo. When Dermot wonders if he has done the right thing, she assures him that he has. Later, Tommy tries to talk to Dermot but he blanks him.
Elsewhere, Lucy goes to the charity shop to help out and meets with Carol and Niamh. They chat about the Molloys and she learns more about the family. Later, Wayne invites Lucy to his house for dinner, but soon realises that nothing will happen between them. They go to bed in separate rooms, but Lucy sneaks downstairs and stares at the Molloys' pictures.

Thurs 12/01

Niamh decides to tell Paul the truth about Rachel and try to make Orla look somewhat good in the process. Niamh is just about to tell Paul about Orla, but Decco interrupts and informs him of Orla and Caoimhe's wrongdoing.
Paul quickly goes on the warpath, calling to Dermot and attacking Orla in front of Rachel. Rachel learns the truth for the first time too and feels completely betrayed by Orla. Paul cuts all ties with Orla, before trying to make it up to Rachel for not believing her.
Meanwhile, Wayne informs an impressed Lucy about his inheritance money. She thinks of some really good ways that he could invest the cash, but he insults her when he feels that she's only interested in him for that.
Elsewhere, Judith is wounded when she realises that she has lost the respect of her daughters; Dermot realises that he is relying on Kelly too much but can't think of a free solution to his problem; while Caoimhe is shaken when she meets Decco and he threatens her.

Carstuck · 05-01-2012 6:15pm

Dermot and Jo are really playing a blinder. Great to see another side to Dermots character rather than be bossed by Jo all the time, never thought he had it in him to stand up to her

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Noticed they still have their Christmas decorations up

Karen23 · 05-01-2012 7:31pm

Karen23 wrote: »

I seem to be the only person I know that still has my tree and decorations up , nearly everybody took them down on Monday before going back to work.

rogercar wrote: »

Are you seriousley telling me, that everyone you know, family, friends neighbours, your local businessis eg. shops, pubs, hotels,supermarkets, shopping malls etc have all taken down their Christmas decorations by Monday 2nd January. And does that include all the outdoor Christmas lights etc, I dont think so! Fair City have messed up yet again. And nothing you say can justify it. Happy new year!

I dont seem to remember mentioning shops , pubs hotels etc but yes all of my neighbours and friends have taken down their Christmas lights and decorations , I was actually embarrassed turning on the lights last night because mine are the last left

Happy New Year to you too

vektarman · 05-01-2012 8:51pm

I was trying to remember what Dermots expression reminded me of when he lost the head with Jo, then I thought of it:
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rogercar · 05-01-2012 9:03pm

Karen23 wrote: »

I dont seem to remember mentioning shops , pubs hotels etc but yes all of my neighbours and friends have taken down their Christmas lights and decorations , I was actually embarrassed turning on the lights last night because mine are the last left Happy New Year to you too

Why should you be embarrassed? They are the idiots for removing theirs so soon. My comment was in relation to Carraigstown. Christmas disappeared from there rather abruptly. Also it is considered unlucky to remove decorations before Jan 6th. (not that I believe that.)

tonyclifton · 05-01-2012 9:05pm

vektarman wrote: »

I was trying to remember what Dermots expression reminded me of when he lost the head with Jo, then I thought of it:

Heeeerrrrreeeee's Deeeeeerrrrrrmmmmootttttt

JONJO THE MISER · 05-01-2012 9:17pm

What crap acting by Rachael and Orla.

leahyl · 05-01-2012 9:20pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

What crap acting by Rachael and Orla.

I thought they were rather good actually!

The security guard is freaky though!

endakenny · 05-01-2012 9:22pm

Why is Charlotte staying quiet about seeing Caoimhe put the items in Rachel's bag? Rachel didn't disclose that Denzo was in the Bishops' house in Christmas Day.

leahyl · 05-01-2012 9:24pm

endakenny wrote: »

Why is Charlotte staying quiet about seeing Caoimhe put the items in Rachel's bag? Rachel didn't disclose that Denzo was in the Bishops' house in Christmas Day.

Prob cos Caoimh is going out with Decco and she feels some sort of loyalty towards her?

endakenny · 05-01-2012 9:28pm

Good point, leahyl

IsMiseLisa · 05-01-2012 9:36pm

endakenny wrote: »

Good point, leahyl

I actually think it's meant to be poorly done jealousy. Charlotte, often, is jealous of anyone whose done or got something she hasn't.

Rachel was getting all the attention tonight - the make-over, surprise party, etc. Charlotte saw Caoimhe was up to no good with Rachel's bag and never said a word - largely, I think, due to jealousy. Plus she doesn't like Caoimhe so don't think she feels any loyalty towards her.

That said, I could be entirely wrong.

endakenny · 05-01-2012 9:41pm

IsMiseLisa wrote: »

I actually think it's meant to be poorly done jealousy. Charlotte, often, is jealous of anyone whose done or got something she hasn't.

Rachel was getting all the attention tonight - the make-over, surprise party, etc. Charlotte saw Caoimhe was up to no good with Rachel's bag and never said a word - largely, I think, due to jealousy. Plus she doesn't like Caoimhe so don't think she feels any loyalty towards her.

That said, I could be entirely wrong.

Now that I've thought more about it, I think you're right. I remember her resentment towards Sash when she moved in. Sash said to Charlotte that it was sick that she was using her leukaemia as an excuse to get her own way.

ameliajane · 05-01-2012 9:45pm

endakenny wrote: »

Why is Charlotte staying quiet about seeing Caoimhe put the items in Rachel's bag? Rachel didn't disclose that Denzo was in the Bishops' house in Christmas Day.

Perhaps Charlotte did not like how Orla treated Rachel to a makeover and ignored her completely. Charlotte may be slightly jealous of Rachel's popularity and the fuss being made over her. Charlotte received attention from everyone before but she was extremely ill before it was shown to her. Rachel is loved and shown it all the time. Also the Bishops wouldn't be so inclined to "grass" on anyone much less Caoimhe who is the daughter of Vivienne's boss and the girlfriend of Charlotte's brother too. Their natural objective is not to get caught.

Rachel is loyal and didn't say anything about Denzo. Charlotte has issues! She is a Bishop.

JP Liz V1 · 05-01-2012 9:46pm

IsMiseLisa wrote: »

I actually think it's meant to be poorly done jealousy. Charlotte, often, is jealous of anyone whose done or got something she hasn't.

Rachel was getting all the attention tonight - the make-over, surprise party, etc. Charlotte saw Caoimhe was up to no good with Rachel's bag and never said a word - largely, I think, due to jealousy. Plus she doesn't like Caoimhe so don't think she feels any loyalty towards her.

That said, I could be entirely wrong.

Yes I think Charlotte is jealous of Rachel

Judith is some idiot she sounded like she was blaming her daughters tonight for the atmosphere in the house she really wants to keep up her perfect family life appearance

ameliajane · 05-01-2012 9:53pm

I have to say that for once I rather enjoyed seeing Caoimhe's scowl at the end of the episode. It is nice to know that for once she will not get away with things and continue to be a spoilt madame. It will become clear that she is guilty and that will be an episode to look forward to.
I am not a fan of Caoimhe which may be evident in this post! I can't understand Judith at all.
Well done to Dermot. Clearly not the Dermuppet I labelled him as in my other posts. It is good to see someone standing up for themselves and not be treated unjustly.

endakenny · 05-01-2012 10:04pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

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Judith is some idiot she sounded like she was blaming her daughters tonight for the atmosphere in the house she really wants to keep up her perfect family life appearance

I don't think that's the case. Tommy was punished by having to sleep on the couch, causing him back pain. He is trying to make it up to the girls but, as he said, how can he do that with the backchat and the exclusion from many things. Judith gave him a choice: walk away or salvage the family. Furthermore, there is Zak to think of. The impact of Tommy's affair would be the most serious on him because he's still a child. Zak's sisters are adults.

I think that Caoimhe's actions will have a much more serious impact on her family than her father's infidelity.

ameliajane · 05-01-2012 10:04pm

Fairplay to the lady who plays Jo. She is so credible in the role and inspires such anger from me as the cheating, hypocritical wife and mother. She is as nasty as Yvonne can be at times although, it is shown in a different way. The villains are always the more interesting to watch.

DeepBlue · 05-01-2012 10:12pm

As enjoyable as it is to see Dermot give Jo her well-deserved and long overdue comeuppance I wonder how realistic it is?

Even though Jo is the guilty party in this split isn't it far more likely that she will end up with custody of Ben and possession of the house if the Fahy's split up?

Shouldn't it be Dermot that ensures he gets a really, really good solicitor? Family Law tends not to favour the husband in the majority of cases with custody battles.
I wonder would FC explore this plotline where Dermot gets shafted and loses everything despite being the innocent party. It would be interesting.

JP Liz V1 · 05-01-2012 10:15pm

DeepBlue wrote: »

As enjoyable as it is to see Dermot give Jo her well-deserved and long overdue comeuppance I wonder how realistic it is?

Even though Jo is the guilty party in this split isn't it far more likely that she will end up with custody of Ben and possession of the house if the Fahy's split up?

Shouldn't it be Dermot that ensures he gets a really, really good solicitor? Family Law tends not to favour the husband in the majority of cases with custody battles.
I wonder would FC explore this plotline where Dermot gets shafted and loses everything despite being the innocent party. It would be interesting.

Ben nearly died in Jo's care because of her affair with Tommy i.e. when Neasa nearly ran him down which Dermot finds out so that should help him in any court case for custody plus Ben isnt their biological child and I think Dermot's name is down on his birth certificate as the father though

endakenny · 05-01-2012 10:19pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Ben nearly died in Jo's care because of her affair with Tommy i.e. when Neasa nearly ran him down which Dermot finds out so that should help him in any court case for custody plus Ben isnt their biological child and I think Dermot's name is down on his birth certificate as the father though

The birth cert was amended to state the truth about Ben's biological parentage at the time Brendan told Heather about his one-night-stand with Deirdre. It ended Dermot's political career when Barry printed it at the behest of McAleer and Mannion.

hiscan · 05-01-2012 10:23pm

IsMiseLisa wrote: »

I actually think it's meant to be poorly done jealousy. Charlotte, often, is jealous of anyone whose done or got something she hasn't.

Rachel was getting all the attention tonight - the make-over, surprise party, etc. Charlotte saw Caoimhe was up to no good with Rachel's bag and never said a word - largely, I think, due to jealousy. Plus she doesn't like Caoimhe so don't think she feels any loyalty towards her.

That said, I could be entirely wrong.

I think you're spot on.Anybody else notice Charlotte smiling when the Guard told Paul that Rachel was accused of shoplifting?

endakenny · 05-01-2012 10:26pm

Yes, I did, hiscan.

JP Liz V1 · 05-01-2012 11:11pm

When and what did Rachel rob before

ameliajane · 05-01-2012 11:25pm

Jo would certainly make Dermot pay if he was the one who cheated. She will do her best to charm her way back and hope he forgets in a few days.

cloptrop · 05-01-2012 11:40pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

When and what did Rachel rob before

ahs she was done for shoplifting before about a year ago

ameliajane · 06-01-2012 1:21am

I can't recall Rachel shoplifting. I have a bad memory. Could Angel help please?

cloptrop · 06-01-2012 1:22am

a few weeks later they caught her with something she boought from decco <cash for gold> an thought she robbed that too

deelite · 06-01-2012 11:19am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

When and what did Rachel rob before

I think it was lipstick.

walshb · 06-01-2012 11:26am

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

What crap acting by Rachael and Orla.

Rachesl is one of the worst actors I have ever seen. Everything is so forced and unnatural. It's like she is constantly struggling to speak normally. Poor!

The only poorer actor I have seen was the original Rachel from several years' back. By god she was bad.

She must get it from her grandmother, Rita, who was an appaling actor.;)

walshb · 06-01-2012 11:31am

endakenny wrote: »

Why is Charlotte staying quiet about seeing Caoimhe put the items in Rachel's bag? Rachel didn't disclose that Denzo was in the Bishops' house in Christmas Day.

If you watch that scene it is not clear that she actually saw Caoimhe put the things in the bag. She saw Caoimhe act suspiciously, but the scene made it appear as if she didn't see her putting the items in the bag.

sh1tstirrer · 06-01-2012 2:37pm

Carstuck wrote: »

Noticed they still have their Christmas decorations up

What's so unusual about that? Christmas doesn't end until after womens little Christmas, which is today

Okocim · 06-01-2012 3:15pm

Hopefully 'Bugs Bunny Boiler' aka 'Caoimhe' gets what's coming to her over setting up Rachel. Great to see Dermot standing up to the conniving Jo, will be interested to see how this plays out, as from Jo's perspective now it's all a power game she's playing out, as she clearly does not have any feelings for Dermot and certainly does not love him and worse still is using her son as a pawn in this power control freak game...by right they should seperate, but soapland does not always follow what should be done...

Also why did the security guard not check the CCTV footage from the shop which would have shown Caoimhe had put the makeup in Rachel's bag? The store had CCTV installed as it was used in the 'walk of shame' to the security guards office at the start of the 2nd half of the episode last night after the break...if we were meant to believe that the shop had no CCTV footage then why make a point of showing 'live CCTV' images of the makeup thief suspects and the security guard? :eek:

Carstuck · 06-01-2012 3:57pm

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

What's so unusual about that? Christmas doesn't end until after womens little Christmas, which is today

Just to clarify I think I read a few pages back someone said FC had most of their decorations down, then I noticed the Fahys hadn't and mentioned that. In a hurry typing as usual!

Karen23 · 06-01-2012 5:25pm

rogercar wrote: »

Why should you be embarrassed? They are the idiots for removing theirs so soon. My comment was in relation to Carraigstown. Christmas disappeared from there rather abruptly. Also it is considered unlucky to remove decorations before Jan 6th. (not that I believe that.)

I wouldnt be too sure , my friend took the tree and decorations down on the 28th of December and her Husband fell through the ceiling putting them back into the attic :eek: I told them thats what they get for taking them down so early even before New Year

Chinafoot · 06-01-2012 7:30pm

endakenny wrote: »

I don't think that's the case. Tommy was punished by having to sleep on the couch, causing him back pain. He is trying to make it up to the girls but, as he said, how can he do that with the backchat and the exclusion from many things. Judith gave him a choice: walk away or salvage the family. Furthermore, there is Zak to think of. The impact of Tommy's affair would be the most serious on him because he's still a child. Zak's sisters are adults.

I think that Caoimhe's actions will have a much more serious impact on her family than her father's infidelity.

You think the daughter shopligting will be more damaging than their father shagging the neighbour?! Does not compute.

It doesn't matter that the girls are adults. He's still their dad and that hurt isn't minimised because of their age. I imagine most grown up children (particularly those living in the family home) would react in exactly the same way. Judith made the (ridiculous) decision to "salvage the family" without the agreement of the children. They can't be expected to just accept that their mother says he's staying and then play happy families again.

A daughter engaging in shoplifting is nowhere near as damaging as a father having an affair.

iceblue · 06-01-2012 8:24pm

i cant be bothered to do multiple quotes....but the fact that some here are complaining about jo being pregnant in real life because her character cant conceive is a bit pathetic... so what are you all saying...she shouldnt have got pregnant in real life?.... she should have been written out the minute her pregnancy has become obvious?....they should only take close ups of her head when she is in a scene?

this has been the best storyline since damien and suzannes wife beating thing, in my opinion, and i am not the slightest bit distracted by the fact that the actor is pregnant in real life. are the complainers on here saying that this storyline should have been scrapped because a 'character' involved in the storyline is now pregnant, and in the soap, her character is infertile....how is it taking the suspension of reality a little too far to expect viewers to ignore the actors pregnancy...are people honestly that bothered, cause i for one am not the slightest bit bothered, ....why dont you all just ignore the fact she is pregnant and concerntrate on the dialogue and look at her face not her bump....whats the big deal....other soap actors have been pregnant in real life and it hasnt effected their role....and i have never heard of anyone on other forums complaining about pregnant actors and it being unrealistic and ruining the plot for them?...and by other forums i mean in the uk, this is the only irish one i know.

sh1tstirrer · 06-01-2012 8:28pm

Carstuck wrote: »

Just to clarify I think I read a few pages back someone said FC had most of their decorations down, then I noticed the Fahys hadn't and mentioned that. In a hurry typing as usual!

Ok, fair enough.

Okocim wrote: »

Also why did the security guard not check the CCTV footage from the shop which would have shown Caoimhe had put the makeup in Rachel's bag? The store had CCTV installed as it was used in the 'walk of shame' to the security guards office at the start of the 2nd half of the episode last night after the break...if we were meant to believe that the shop had no CCTV footage then why make a point of showing 'live CCTV' images of the makeup thief suspects and the security guard? :eek:

That was fairly stupid alright. The shop assistant noticed stuff missing and sent the security guard after them. If it turned out that there was no stolen goods in her bag they could sue the shop for loss of character as the staff have to know for certain that someone shoplifted. Why was the security guard smirking at them it looked as if he was thrown into the part at a moments notice.

endakenny · 06-01-2012 8:41pm

Chinafoot wrote: »

You think the daughter shopligting will be more damaging than their father shagging the neighbour?! Does not compute.

It doesn't matter that the girls are adults. He's still their dad and that hurt isn't minimised because of their age. I imagine most grown up children (particularly those living in the family home) would react in exactly the same way. Judith made the (ridiculous) decision to "salvage the family" without the agreement of the children. They can't be expected to just accept that their mother says he's staying and then play happy families again.

A daughter engaging in shoplifting is nowhere near as damaging as a father having an affair.

The difference between Caoimhe and Tommy is that Caoimhe broke the law. The effect of having a criminal record on herself and her family are a lot more serious than her father committing adultery. I assumed that that's what everyone else would think I meant.

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