Guns N' Roses Discussion Thread

Lithium93_ · 19-11-2014 12:25am

http://metalhammer.teamrock.com/news/2014-11-16/guns-n-roses-book-to-be-made-into-feature-film

Lithium93_ · 23-11-2014 3:17am

6 years today since it was released (After 17 years, millions of dollars, countless producers, a revolving door of session players, and recorded in 14 studios around the world.)

Lithium93_ · 05-12-2014 1:35pm

It seems the wheels may have been set in motion on working on a follow up to Chinese Democracy

And Richard Fortus revealed this nugget of information

A lot of the new stuff that we’ve been working on; some of the stuff come from nothing and some of the stuff is stuff that we’ve been working on that were ideas that were already there. Some of the stuff Slash did — it was the beginning of the seed of the song that’s been around for a while.

Iranoutofideas · 05-12-2014 1:40pm

You can't trust a word from any member of GNR especially that shameless poser Ashba. He has been bull****ing about new songs ever since he joined the band.

I never want to see that bellend on an official GNR studio album.

And Bumblefoot is by all accounts out of the band.

Lithium93_ · 05-12-2014 1:45pm

Iranoutofideas wrote: »

You can't trust a word from any member of GNR especially that shameless poser Ashba. He has been bull****ing about new songs ever since he joined the band.

I never want to see that bellend on an official GNR studio album.

And Bumblefoot is by all accounts out of the band.

Axl would be the only one i'd believe about a new GN'R album, and MAYBE Richard Fortus to a degree..... D.J Ashba do not get me started on that stunad, but unfortunately he will be on the next GN'R album whether we like it or not, who knows he could be brilliant in the studio, but live he can't play to save his life If he redoes any of the stuff Robin recorded i will be fuming.

Yeah according to his Twitter bio Bumblefoot is outta GN'R.

Iranoutofideas · 07-12-2014 2:35pm

There will never be another GNR studio album.

Lithium93_ · 07-12-2014 2:48pm

Not while Axl is still alive, several posthumous albums would be the best bet now.

Motley Crue · 11-12-2014 10:53pm

What is the deal with Bumblefoot though, because there has been no official word that I'm aware of, yet the man himself has changed his Twitter to reflect his tenure in Guns N' Roses as 2006-2014 and is now doing a UK solo tour, normally the indication that you need to strike while the iron is hot on these things the moment you've left the band

Lithium93_ · 11-12-2014 11:49pm

Bumblefoot has threatened to walk before, then again if anyone was in GN'R touring & playing the same songs night after night, year after year with no word/progress on a new album, they'd be frustrated as well.

IF Bumblefoot has really walked then nobody will miss him, Axl will probably bring in another nameless/faceless guitar player and the nostalgia tour will carry on.

Shame that this is what Axl is reduced to, touring the hits, whatever happened to the vision he had post the original line up collapsing.

Motley Crue · 12-12-2014 10:44am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Shame that this is what Axl is reduced to, touring the hits, whatever happened to the vision he had post the original line up collapsing.

Yes, I remember that Kurt Loder interview in 98 or 99 where he spoke about that. Would have been a phenomenally good project. Then again, maybe he spent so much money he needed to do something to recoup the bills he owed.

Lithium93_ · 12-12-2014 3:07pm

Motley Crue wrote: »

Yes, I remember that Kurt Loder interview in 98 or 99 where he spoke about that. Would have been a phenomenally good project. Then again, maybe he spent so much money he needed to do something to recoup the bills he owed.

It was 1999 if i recall, i doubt Axl had spent that much money by that point, work on Chinese on-going for 2 years. I just can't fathom why Axl can't/won't release whatever was recorded while Robin and Buckethead were still in the band.

Motley Crue · 12-12-2014 10:32pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

It was 1999 if i recall, i doubt Axl had spent that much money by that point, work on Chinese on-going for 2 years. I just can't fathom why Axl can't/won't release whatever was recorded while Robin and Buckethead were still in the band.

We'll get it, pretty much when Axl is dead or facing a massive IRS bill, that material will eventually find it's way out there - but Axl is in much better health (as far as I'm aware) than Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley so we might have to wait a little loner

Lithium93_ · 12-12-2014 11:35pm

Motley Crue wrote: »

We'll get it, pretty much when Axl is dead or facing a massive IRS bill, that material will eventually find it's way out there - but Axl is in much better health (as far as I'm aware) than Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley so we might have to wait a little loner

If we ever get anything from Axl under the GN'R banner, i'd say it'll happen when he kicks the bucket, so the whole 'vault' we keep hearing so much about maybe cleared out. Nobody really know what was recorded during the 'quiet years'. Surely he didn't spend that $13 million dollars on 1 album.

When Axl does kick the bucket, who would get the legal ownership of the GN'R name? Would it be his siblings?

Pawwed Rig · 13-12-2014 8:44am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

When Axl does kick the bucket, who would get the legal ownership of the GN'R name? Would it be his siblings?

Maybe he has named Slash as his sole beneficiary in his will

Lithium93_ · 14-12-2014 6:23pm

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Maybe he has named Slash as his sole beneficiary in his will

That would be ironic given the hate Axl has towards Slash

Lithium93_ · 14-12-2014 6:24pm

Pawwed Rig · 16-12-2014 12:04pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

That would be ironic given the hate Axl has towards Slash

Indeed
The beneficiaries in his will will be his wife, then kids, then parents/siblings etc assuming he hasn't named anyone else. I would assume that he has made a will though.

Lithium93_ · 16-12-2014 1:18pm

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Indeed
The beneficiaries in his will will be his wife, then kids, then parents/siblings etc assuming he hasn't named anyone else. I would assume that he has made a will though.

Well if Axl did kick the bucket, we can most certainly rule out a wife or kids straight away, his Brazilian ''management''/housekeeper, his half-siblings would i'd imagine get a sizable cut of Axl's fortune

I'd imagine the legal rights to the GN'R name would be held up in litigation.

20-12-2014 12:39am

Found this ticket going thru old boxes at home,
as a previous poster said they really were the biggest band in the world at the time.

Can't get over the price considering what Foos & AC/DC are going for currently, taking inflation into account even!!

20-12-2014 2:01am

the bastarding celtic tiger is back when a gig that costs so much (ac/dc) sells out that fast.

Motley Crue · 20-12-2014 4:49pm

Is it just me or has the official GNR website been partially taken down?

On a similar topic, do you see 2015 being a quiet year for the band or should we expect something to begin happening again in relation to either touring or even - as some may dread - another physical recording of some type?

Lithium93_ · 20-12-2014 4:54pm

GN'R website working fine for me. We'll see some touring towards the later part of 2015 (D.J has prior engagements with Sixx Am in April), nobody knows if Bumblefoot is officially in or out or the band. As for a follow up to Chinese Democracy, soon is the word :pac:

Lithium93_ · 22-12-2014 11:24am

Looking back on the Chinese Democracy songs that were played in Rock In Rio III 15 years ago next month. They sounded so much better than what ended up making the album when it was eventually released 7 years later.

I mean it would be cool to hear Axl say the words ''this is a brand new song'' again.

Motley Crue · 22-12-2014 6:34pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Chinese Democracy songs that were played in Rock In Rio III 15 years ago next month.

What the ****! Has it been 15 years since that concert....OK, that's it, I think I'm done with them now - sure, if they tour again I'll go and get a night's entertainment, but the random nonsense and fan postings on boards and everything else has really ended for me

I can't believe Bumblefoot the other day when he said that he has been 8 years in Guns N' Roses - that just happened!

Lithium93_ · 23-12-2014 5:00pm

Motley Crue wrote: »

What the ****! Has it been 15 years since that concert....OK, that's it, I think I'm done with them now - sure, if they tour again I'll go and get a night's entertainment, but the random nonsense and fan postings on boards and everything else has really ended for me

I can't believe Bumblefoot the other day when he said that he has been 8 years in Guns N' Roses - that just happened!

My bad it's actually 14 years next month since GN'R played Rock In Rio III, I lost interest in GN'R somewhere along the road in 2014, the only thing that could get me back on side is if a new album gets released this decade and Axl gets into shape vocally & physically (But we know damn well that that won't happen).

MYGNRFORUM have just gone downhill since GN'R wrapped up their 2nd Vegas residency in June.

Well if Bumblefoot is indeed gone from GN'R this time, then i say Bona Fortuna, better he resume his own solo career instead of wasting away in Axl's Nostalgia Circus.

Motley Crue · 02-01-2015 3:02pm

I think 2015 is going to be a relatively quiet year for GNR, probably the quietest twelve months we've had since Summer 2007 (after the Australian dates) to October 2008 (in preparation for Chinese Democracy launch). If this means that the wheels are turning and a new album could possibly be coming our way then fantastic!

Lithium93_ · 02-01-2015 3:31pm

Nothing will top the silent years of 2003-2005.

Motley Crue · 02-01-2015 4:40pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Nothing will top the silent years of 2003-2005.

Very true. Let's not have a repeat of that.

Lithium93_ · 02-01-2015 4:48pm

Motley Crue wrote: »

Very true. Let's not have a repeat of that.

Aye, i know Axl is/can be a very reclusive guy, but those 2 years felt like an eternity. Nobody knew what was going on, i remember reading in 2004 when the Greatest Hits cd was released, that Chinese would be released in time for Christmas....... Boy was i sucker for believing that.

Motley Crue · 06-01-2015 11:25am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Aye, i know Axl is/can be a very reclusive guy, but those 2 years felt like an eternity. Nobody knew what was going on, i remember reading in 2004 when the Greatest Hits cd was released, that Chinese would be released in time for Christmas....... Boy was i sucker for believing that.

Yeah the Greatest Hits CD came out at the end of March so that was another long wait. Plus there was his appearance in GTA, as Tommy "Nightmare" Smith, I'd love to know when he recorded that and under what circumstances - but I don't think anyone has ever spoken on it or released any information about that...he must have recorded it a few years before it was eventually used...

Motley Crue · 06-01-2015 11:42am

While we're on the subject, here's some mildly connected GNR material - dunno what the hell ever happened to this music....supposedly produced by Axl and featuring Paul Tobias - who, for some reason, also uses the name Paul Huge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13yKr79_bc4

Lithium93_ · 06-01-2015 11:43am

Motley Crue wrote: »

Yeah the Greatest Hits CD came out at the end of March so that was another long wait. Plus there was his appearance in GTA, as Tommy "Nightmare" Smith, I'd love to know when he recorded that and under what circumstances - but I don't think anyone has ever spoken on it or released any information about that...he must have recorded it a few years before it was eventually used...

GH was a disaster. I was actually surprised when my cousin told me that it was Axl who voiced Tommy ''Nightmare'' Smith on San Andreas, it took 10 year old me by surprise, if i were to guess i'd imagine he did the GTA voiceover work sometime in 2002/03 or sometime in 2004 before the game was released.

Lithium93_ · 06-01-2015 3:32pm

Duff mentioned these tidbits on Jamey Jasta's podcast recently.

Guns N’ Roses, it’s a big catalog item for the Universal Music Group. It still is. It’s, like, the second biggest catalog item they have, it sells. In 1994, I’d just gotten sober and I was kind of figuring some stuff out, and our lawyer said, ‘We’re gonna audit Geffen,’ audit our record company. Before that, I lived in this sort of fantasy world that they were our partner in this thing. We were going out and attacking the world together.They didn’t pay us on something like six million records. Six million records! That’s what we found. And they said, ‘Okay, fine. We’ll pay you for two. Or you can sue us.’ This is our record company. ‘You can sue us for the rest, but it’s gonna cost you. We have lawyers on staff.’ So you do an audit settlement. So you settle for about a third of what’s owed you. And we’ve done now an audit every three years. And it’s the same procedure. It’s not six million anymore. But it’s a hefty number. But you have to settle.

The rocker went on to say that there’s a perception that the Guns N’ Roses members made millions while supporting their Use Your Illusion albums, but he explains

Our crew was 130 people … 130! We had two stages going — we had an ‘A’ stage and a ‘B’ stage going — around the world at all times. That’s why we toured for two-and-a-half years, cause it too us two years to break even — just to break even — on that tour.

guitarrrszz · 10-01-2015 12:22am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Duff mentioned these tidbits on Jamey Jasta's podcast recently.

The rocker went on to say that there’s a perception that the Guns N’ Roses members made millions while supporting their Use Your Illusion albums, but he explains

wow i didnt know that, that some shady **** from the record label!

Lithium93_ · 06-02-2015 11:11pm

In honour of Axl's 53rd birthday today, Rolling Stone posted their interview with Axl from February 2000 on their Facebook page, when Chinese Democracy was not yet a reality.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/axl-speaks-20000203

thegreengoblin · 07-02-2015 9:53pm

Slash tweeted to Axl yesterday! No reply from Axl as of yet :pac:

https://twitter.com/Slash/status/563715577353879552

Lithium93_ · 07-02-2015 9:55pm

Axl actually did reply

Buried w/texts, emails, posts, videos, n' good ol' fashioned cards. Greetings n' B-day wishes from everywhere imagineable. Thanks 2 everyone

thegreengoblin · 07-02-2015 10:08pm

Well, I meant he hasn't replied directly to Slash...not that we know of anyway!

AllGunsBlazing · 07-02-2015 10:48pm

guitarrrszz wrote: »

wow i didnt know that, that some shady **** from the record label!

In an industry known for shady business practices Geffen were particularly notorious. Sure they once sued Neil Young for recording an album that apparently didn't sound enough like Neil Young!:pac:

Motley Crue · 16-02-2015 4:04pm

Our crew was 130 people … 130! We had two stages going — we had an ‘A’ stage and a ‘B’ stage going — around the world at all times. That’s why we toured for two-and-a-half years, cause it too us two years to break even — just to break even — on that tour.

Why am I not surprised. I can't imagine anyone would have made millions from that. The best money they would have made is what they were saving while they didn't have to buy groceries or food or pay bills back home. I know Gilby Clarke spoke out and said he wasn't paid properly for that tour, he had to sort something with Axl afterwards.

Lithium93_ · 16-02-2015 4:17pm

You'd have to wonder, if Axl wasn't so late coming on stage during the Illusions World tour, would the band have made more money, i know Slash said in his book that Axl used to throw insanely lavish backstage parties during said tour. Also not forgetting to mention the fines incurred for Axl's lateness. So couple the fines with the spending on backstage parties and you have a sort of clear idea where all the money went.

Lithium93_ · 17-02-2015 12:06pm

Here's a laugh courtesy of Richard Fortus.

http://metalhammer.teamrock.com/news/2015-02-16/fortus-axl-is-only-in-it-for-the-music

Motley Crue · 18-02-2015 5:17pm

Yeah I read that, I think Fortus should just keep quiet and continue to be thankful Axl lets him use red guitar picks with the GNR logo on them

Lithium93_ · 23-02-2015 11:34pm

Steven Adler says a GN'R reunion album would blow away Appetite For Destruction

http://www.alternativenation.net/steven-adler-says-guns-n-roses-reunion-album-blow-away-appetite-destruction/

Mental Mickey · 23-02-2015 11:40pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Steven Adler says a GN'R reunion album would blow away Appetite For Destruction

http://www.alternativenation.net/steven-adler-says-guns-n-roses-reunion-album-blow-away-appetite-destruction/

Not a f@€king hope as long as Axl & Slash aren't on speaking terms.

Lithium93_ · 23-02-2015 11:42pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Not a f@€king hope as long as Axl & Slash aren't on speaking terms.

Not a hope full stop. Slash has moved on, Axl, who the hell knows where Axl is these days

And a reunion album WOULD NEVER EVER blow away Appetite.

thegreengoblin · 23-02-2015 11:54pm

Steven always comes out with some hilarious quotes...
'I've got Axl's back' :pac::pac:

You can picture Slash, Duff and Izzy reading those quotes and smiling before quietly shaking their heads to themselves. You can picture Axl doing absolutely anything except thinking 'Yep, Steven is 100 per cent right..we should get back together just for the fans.'

I like Steven and I'm glad he's sober and in a good place but the man is so f***ing deluded it's beyond comprehension at times!

Pawwed Rig · 24-02-2015 12:57am

Poor Stephen is just regretting what he threw away/what might have been for him. Sad for him but sure at least he featured on possibly the best album ever made so he has his legacy.

I am not sure I would goto see a reunion show were it to miraculously happen. The moment is gone.

I was just thinking the other day while talking to a young lad at work that me talking about how great GNR were was like the old farts way back in 1991 talking about music from the mid sixties :eek:. I am that old fart now:(

Motley Crue · 24-02-2015 5:48pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Steven Adler says a GN'R reunion album would blow away Appetite For Destruction

http://www.alternativenation.net/steven-adler-says-guns-n-roses-reunion-album-blow-away-appetite-destruction/

How is Steven still alive?! I mean it seems that Steven makes these comments everytime someone forgets him for a few months. I feel for the guy, I really do, but his contibutions to Guns N' Roses ended with the drumming on 'Civil War' and most people don't even know Don Henley replaced him briefly in 1989...I know for him it was a time and place he really wants back, but do you honestly think he would even be considered in that situation.

gnfnrhead · 25-02-2015 12:18am

Motley Crue wrote: »

How is Steven still alive?! I mean it seems that Steven makes these comments everytime someone forgets him for a few months. I feel for the guy, I really do, but his contibutions to Guns N' Roses ended with the drumming on 'Civil War' and most people don't even know Don Henley replaced him briefly in 1989...I know for him it was a time and place he really wants back, but do you honestly think he would even be considered in that situation.

I'd easily pick him ahead of Matt Sorum. But, a reunion would likely feature both.

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