The Tipperary GAA (Club and intercounty) Discussion thread 2014

Premier View wrote: »

Thanks and of course it is early doors. Still I feel he should remember Clare
murdered us last year in the Crystal, and it turned out to be a fair indicator of where both teams went. Also Cork were amazing in the first league match and destroyed us. I remember him saying after the Clare Waterford Crystal match, we are targeting the Cork match? I dident hear Brian Cody saying they were only interested in the first league match ,they lay down a marker from game one. I do agree with you its early, but it is a big year for management as well as players, our selectors were a mixed bag last year. I hope they are not going to do the usual, we thought after the League Final, they had something up their sleeve, and we would turn it on in the Championship. Turned out they had nothing at all.

KK lost their opening two league games last year and had an equally dissapointing championship as Tipp

Plus do you really think that what the management say to the press is the same as what is said behind closed doors? Having attended most of the games played so far this year I can assure you Tipp are miles ahead of where they were 12 months ago and that can only be a good thing.

Premier View wrote: »

Thanks great post. Still I would not get carried away with how they are going in training. They were flying in training before the ill-fated All-Ireland Semi-Final against KK. They were then beaten by a cricket score. Tipperary tend to flatter to deceive. Davy Fitz is not afraid to call it as he sees it to the press. O'Shea may well be doing the cloak and dagger approach, A lot of Managers and players throw out the usual boring sound bites. While its a new season, signs are not much has changed. No much new blood, which is amazing to be honest. Shane Mc Grath persisted with, I would advise caution to the Tipp faithful, we normally end up being short changed.

Shane McGrath has been converted to wingback and has been Tipps outstanding player in everygame so far this year, he simply no longer had the engine required for midfield and his confidence also suffered as a result of his poor form and frustration, I would have culled him from the panel on the back of 2012 and 2013 but to be fair to O'Shea McGrath has been superb thus far.

The were flying in training in 2012 that is evidenced by the hammering they gave Waterford in the Munster Final, 35 mins against KK ( remember there was a single point in it at HT) does not change that, yes it was a new low for Tipp but we need to move on from that.

I wouldn't be putting Davy up there on any pedestal either, his CV prior to last year was extremly hit and miss, with alot more of the latter, he inherited the most talented group of players ever to appear in Clare, a blank cheque book, a nice handy route (that they nearly fcuked up against Wexford) and they still were extremely lucky to overcome a very average Cork team despite being clearly superior.

I have noticed the past week a number of Tipp fans referencing last years Waterford Crystal final as some sort of seminal moment and how it was very clear all was doomed in Tipp and that was where Clare put their marker down, but fail to reference the league game a couple of months later where we handed them their ars*s on a plate?

Premier View wrote: »

Agreed. You tend to read into what bears out you own argument. We did indeed hammer them in the league, it was strange the path both teams went on after that. We went on to the final, and they had to contest a relegation play-off!
The path to an All-Ireland seemed a long way off for the Banner there. It could be it was one of those years, where events conspired to down Kilkenny and Tipp. I pray that was the case. I think it was a golden opportunity lost for us though, we had been knocking on the door for a few years, and if we had of beaten the Cats; i think it was ours for the taking.

Agreed and I still maintain that if Lar had not have come off injured we would have won that game, and I go as far as saying a litlle comfortably, he had Murphy in all sorts of bother, and look at Murphy's performance after Lar came off, he was the match winner for the cats.

That was a desperately unlucky draw aswell, I firmly believe if we had gotten Clares draw and were allowed to build momentum like they were we were more than capable of being champions, but of course we should never have been in that position, the defeat to Limerick having foutght back to lead was inexcusible.

All will be revealed in the coming months and I for one can't bloody wait

Tipp 4 16 clare 3 09

Not getting carried away given its only February but great win by the lads tonight.
For anyone at the match any stand out performances? Sounds like Denis Maher had a stormer.

There were certain posters here getting worried after the Kerry game. Hopefully we won't have people getting overexcited at this result.

It's been stated previously that games this time of year mean very little, just managers trying out different lads and experimenting in general. Though I feel this team is low on confidence so I'd take any win now. It's good that the lesser known lads are putting their hands up.

I'd imagine that eos will be doing quite a bit of experimenting in the league also.
A lot of us-fans and pundits-thought last years championship was going to be a 2 horse race on league form, how wrong we were. I'd be surprised enough if we're down to the final One or two this year.

digzy wrote: »

There were certain posters here getting worried after the Kerry game. Hopefully we won't have people getting overexcited at this result.

It's been stated previously that games this time of year mean very little, just managers trying out different lads and experimenting in general. Though I feel this team is low on confidence so I'd take any win now. It's good that the lesser known lads are putting their hands up.

I'd imagine that eos will be doing quite a bit of experimenting in the league also.
A lot of us-fans and pundits-thought last years championship was going to be a 2 horse race on league form, how wrong we were. I'd be surprised enough if we're down to the final One or two this year.

So Clare banged in three goals in the first half and Tipp banged in three in the second. We needed these goals and we must keep on learning how to score them! Goals win matches, if nothing else Kilkenny in their best days taught us this.

digzy wrote: »

Dunno why you're quoting me there. I'm aware the team who scores the most wins!
My point was its a little early in the season for being disappointed or excited with results.

Never a bad time to score goals!

Footballers play Waterford tomorrow in Clonmel.

How about a bit of moral support as attendance will be very poor.

Time for more Tipp fans to get behind the footballers, they work very hard and deserve recognition for their efforts.

Deleted User wrote: »

Look boys and girls don't read too much into last night. Tom Stapleton ran 60 yards to set up a goal. Sure he must have left home last Sunday to build up speed.

Not going to read too much into it, but glad to see some new players tried out, and a good bit more work rate and fighting for dirty ball from some lads that we haven't seen it a while, thats a very encouraging sign to me at least, February or not.

Deleted User wrote: »

Fair point.

O'shea naming the 26 soon. Will be interesting to see the culls. I honestly believe O'Riordan should be tried out soon. If we give him a taste of intercounty at the highest level it might make his decision to stay with us that bit easier

Tipp go into the National Football League game today being the top scorers of all 32 teams. Keep this in mind lads and I encourage you to be still top scorers after round two when I read tomorrows papers.

Colin O'Riordan has the potential to be a great dual player. If he thinks he can handle it let him go for it. If the managers cannot handle it, that's their problem. The day is gone in most counties when the manager can coerce any good dual player to drop any one of the two codes.