Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

YFlyer · 30-07-2015 4:46pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

Hi YFlyer, I think most people on thread have tried and are trying some form of meditation or mindfulness however the very nature of depression and anxiety make it difficult to concentrate on the practice as it were.. In my own experience I've been practicing for four months now and when low mood or panic hits it's still a matter of trying to minimise negativity for the most part.. Hoping to find it easier in time though.. Rough night at work not helping here, mind very scattered indeed..

I'm not aware of other techniques. However, TM is very simply and effortless to do. People with anxiety, depression, different mental illnesses and PTSD frind it extremely beneficial.

mg1982 · 30-07-2015 6:34pm

YFlyer wrote: »

You can't learn TM from online. Only from a qualified trained TM teacher. There are a number of them around Ireland.

Thats what i heard too. The nearest one to me is in galway and im in sligo going by the TM website. Im not sure how pricely the classes are. But i have heard wonderful things about TM.

freudiangirl · 30-07-2015 8:27pm

Didn't see consultant today. Anxiety started once his name was mentioned so couldn't go see him without anxiety coming back. Will probably have to see him tomorrow.
Thoughts of it.

Still quite anxious and wrecked especially after dbt.

timecurve12 · 30-07-2015 10:06pm

I keep going up and down in mood the whole time. I guess it's better than feeling really depressed all the time. I feel really scared because I don't think things are going to get better. I'm trying to improve things, applying for jobs, doing a degree, but I don't think it's going to work. Society just views me as a scrounger. I can't get a job, I don't think I'll be able to get one, there's too much competition. I really want to work, but my anxiety got in the way for years, and it still does, and now it's too late. I'm not really someone who regrets things but I'm looking back at all the little chances I had in the past that I never took. How things could have been different if only... (I know, there's literally no point, it's a waste of energy ruminating on this)

I guess I'm a loser, that's how others would view me. Truthfully I'm actually a hard working and honest person but because of ****ing up in the past that means nothing now. I'm finding it hard to enjoy things day to day, because I'm worrying all the time, or thinking I'm such a loser, I don't deserve this. I'm really stuck right now, and I don't see a way out. Sorry for rambling.

heyday30 · 30-07-2015 10:36pm

mg1982 wrote: »

Took some diazepam tonight. The last few weeks the anxiety has been building and building and i can barely function now with it. Might call my community mental health nurse to discuss what are my options. I have Lyrica in mind as it worked well before.

Sorry to hear mg. lyrica is good. Don't suffer needlessly

heyday30 · 30-07-2015 10:40pm

timecurve12 wrote: »

I keep going up and down in mood the whole time. I guess it's better than feeling really depressed all the time. I feel really scared because I don't think things are going to get better. I'm trying to improve things, applying for jobs, doing a degree, but I don't think it's going to work. Society just views me as a scrounger. I can't get a job, I don't think I'll be able to get one, there's too much competition. I really want to work, but my anxiety got in the way for years, and it still does, and now it's too late. I'm not really someone who regrets things but I'm looking back at all the little chances I had in the past that I never took. How things could have been different if only... (I know, there's literally no point, it's a waste of energy ruminating on this)

I guess I'm a loser, that's how others would view me. Truthfully I'm actually a hard working and honest person but because of ****ing up in the past that means nothing now. I'm finding it hard to enjoy things day to day, because I'm worrying all the time, or thinking I'm such a loser, I don't deserve this. I'm really stuck right now, and I don't see a way out. Sorry for rambling.

Hi timecurve.
Sorry your going through a bad time.

Have you any support? Family or doctor?

Your far from rambling. We all vent here and you're most welcome.

timecurve12 · 30-07-2015 10:49pm

heyday30 wrote: »

Hi timecurve.
Sorry your going through a bad time.

Have you any support? Family or doctor?

Your far from rambling. We all vent here and you're most welcome.

Thank you for your reply heyday. I have friends and family but I don't talk to them about my feelings tbh. I don't think there's much point and I don't want to worry them. Whenever I express that I'm unhappy I'm told that I need to do this, or do that. It's just like, I'm trying, but it's never enough. I am going to start counselling soon so hopefully that will help.

greenfrogs · 30-07-2015 11:14pm

timecurve12 wrote: »

I keep going up and down in mood the whole time. I guess it's better than feeling really depressed all the time. I feel really scared because I don't think things are going to get better. I'm trying to improve things, applying for jobs, doing a degree, but I don't think it's going to work. Society just views me as a scrounger. I can't get a job, I don't think I'll be able to get one, there's too much competition. I really want to work, but my anxiety got in the way for years, and it still does, and now it's too late. I'm not really someone who regrets things but I'm looking back at all the little chances I had in the past that I never took. How things could have been different if only... (I know, there's literally no point, it's a waste of energy ruminating on this)

I guess I'm a loser, that's how others would view me. Truthfully I'm actually a hard working and honest person but because of ****ing up in the past that means nothing now. I'm finding it hard to enjoy things day to day, because I'm worrying all the time, or thinking I'm such a loser, I don't deserve this. I'm really stuck right now, and I don't see a way out. Sorry for rambling.

I can totally relate to this timecurve. I, at times feel like a scrounger as well. In the past, all I used do was focus on my failures and shortcomings. It really drags your mood and energy levels down. Every single day I used to think I was a loser and stupid.

Now, I am applying for jobs on the ce scheme. Sometimes it occurs to me that the government literally as to pay someone to hire me. But, at least I am trying. For me it is a step forward. My ultimate dream is to land a full time job in the area I want to work in and be good at that. I'm very slowly getting there but I am trying.

Other people may look at me as a scrouger but, I know I hard I am trying to gain control of my life. Give yourself a break . You will get through this.

carzony · 31-07-2015 4:22am

greenfrogs wrote: »

I can totally relate to this timecurve. I, at times feel like a scrounger as well. In the past, all I used do was focus on my failures and shortcomings. It really drags your mood and energy levels down. Every single day I used to think I was a loser and stupid.

Now, I am applying for jobs on the ce scheme. Sometimes it occurs to me that the government literally as to pay someone to hire me. But, at least I am trying.

No need to feel bad about it a huge % of the country is the same. Literally thousands of people are on similar schemes hoping to get a job, least your not alone there

Sign of the times and it'll be a while before ''real jobs'' return:(

Maybe it's just where i'm living but most people I know are unemployed and anyone I know working is seriously struggling financially..

I find it amazing looking at the news to be told that were are back in celtic tiger territory??:eek: :eek:

Iseedeadpixels · 31-07-2015 2:38pm

First session done this morning, was very formal just laying out how we will proceed, Im looking forward to the rest now as she mentioned her son has a similar health issue to me so she really can relate.

greenfrogs · 31-07-2015 2:54pm

carzony wrote: »

No need to feel bad about it a huge % of the country is the same. Literally thousands of people are on similar schemes hoping to get a job, least your not alone there Sign of the times and it'll be a while before ''real jobs'' return:(

Maybe it's just where i'm living but most people I know are unemployed and anyone I know working is seriously struggling financially..

I find it amazing looking at the news to be told that were are back in celtic tiger territory??:eek: :eek:

Yah that's true. It can be annoying hearing that things are picking up. I know a few people who are unemployed. It is demoralising but, it won't be forever. Thanks for your reply. I suppose I should count myself lucky that there are such schemes in place.

Foggy.nelson · 31-07-2015 3:04pm

greenfrogs wrote: »

Yah that's true. It can be annoying hearing that things are picking up. I know a few people who are unemployed. It is demoralising but, it won't be forever. Thanks for your reply. I suppose I should count myself lucky that there are such schemes in place.

The only advice I can give you is do as many courses as you can through fas/solas. I did ones that were related to my field that really were a load of crap but have helped me now that I back working. More so in interviews talking about them and not having gaps on my cv rather than actually been been beneficial to me

Diamond Doll · 31-07-2015 3:13pm

I was told in hospital lately that I come across as a very resilient person.

You know what? She was sure as hell right.

Yeah I've been through of a hell of a lot. In the last two years, I've gone through a difficult pregnancy. Did professional exams at seven months pregnant (and kicked ass.) Moved house at eight months pregnant. Gone through a horrendous birth, from which I suffered PTSD. Suffered post-natal depression, post-natal panic disorder, post-natal anxiety, even post-natal psychosis (that's the really scary one) ... all of which have been only diagnosed recently, following an ectopic pregnancy and subsequent medical abortion as my life was in danger.

And now my boyfriend has left me, taking the baby with him.

And yet I'm alive and kicking and ready to kick absolute ass and do everything it takes to get back to work and to get my baby back with me.

He's shot me a cheap blow by kicking me in the face when I was at the lowest possible point imaginable.

But maybe in an odd way he's done me the biggest favour by reminding me of just how STRONG I can be!

I'm a little bit awesome. Yeah I have had my mental health struggles, but I've come out fighting. And ready to take on the world.

Foggy.nelson · 31-07-2015 3:19pm

This little piggy wrote: »

I was told in hospital lately that I come across as a very resilient person.

You know what? She was sure as hell right.

Yeah I've been through of a hell of a lot. In the last two years, I've gone through a difficult pregnancy. Did professional exams at seven months pregnant (and kicked ass.) Moved house at eight months pregnant. Gone through a horrendous birth, from which I suffered PTSD. Suffered post-natal depression, post-natal panic disorder, post-natal anxiety, even post-natal psychosis (that's the really scary one) ... all of which have been only diagnosed recently, following an ectopic pregnancy and subsequent medical abortion as my life was in danger.

And now my boyfriend has left me, taking the baby with him.

And yet I'm alive and kicking and ready to kick absolute ass and do everything it takes to get back to work and to get my baby back with me.

He's shot me a cheap blow by kicking me in the face when I was at the lowest possible point imaginable.

But maybe in an odd way he's done me the biggest favour by reminding me of just how STRONG I can be!

I'm a little bit awesome. Yeah I have had my mental health struggles, but I've come out fighting. And ready to take on the world.

Wow.. well thus has made my Friday, hell my weekend.. I could feel negative taughts coming back into my thinking over thinking about a certain person and just generally finishing work and staying in bed till Monday. But after reading that no I'm in a new city and I'm gonna enjoy it, socialise and have a good time. Everything you said is right you do kick ass... and then some. Well done and thanks for inspiring me to get out of my low patch

Diamond Doll · 31-07-2015 3:30pm

I just haven't given myself enough credit. I've spent too long feeling sorry for myself, and too long beating myself up about feeling that way.

I guess I just needed to actually see it, that it actually WAS a really tough awful time, especially as it was all untreated, even though I sought medical advice again and again at the time.

And I can and will get better, I absolutely will.

My ex was a very unforgiving person. He dragged me down so low for so long. I feel like a burden has lifted now that he's gone, I really do.

I'm free now to live my life again. With my son, who I've adored from the first day. It's a short-term battle to get him back to me, but at least I can see it now as the short-term battle it is, and not as an overwhelming source of anxiety.

scrimshanker · 31-07-2015 3:43pm

I'm so tired lately. So so tired. I'm sick of this. I can't wake up before 1pm properly and I'm drowsy all day...

alaskayoung · 31-07-2015 4:56pm

I am so so depressed. There's no reason, no explanation, I just am. There's nothing even left to say anymore. I wish I'd died earlier this year. I'm so fxcking tired of living like this.

scrimshanker · 31-07-2015 5:38pm

alaskayoung wrote: »

I am so so depressed. There's no reason, no explanation, I just am. There's nothing even left to say anymore. I wish I'd died earlier this year. I'm so fxcking tired of living like this.

Hang in there AY. It makes no sense at all, of course there's no reason, it's not logical, it's not based in reason. We're right there with you. *hugs*

Eventually you'll beat this. It isn't you, it's an illness.

greenfrogs · 31-07-2015 5:51pm

True, there is no sense in any of this. Very bored the last few days. Can't do much because I'm resting. My mood hasn't plumentated though which is good.

Hugo Stiglitz · 31-07-2015 6:36pm

scrimshanker wrote: »

I'm so tired lately. So so tired. I'm sick of this. I can't wake up before 1pm properly and I'm drowsy all day...

alaskayoung wrote: »

I am so so depressed. There's no reason, no explanation, I just am. There's nothing even left to say anymore. I wish I'd died earlier this year. I'm so fxcking tired of living like this.

Hugs to the pair of ye.

Roquentin · 31-07-2015 6:55pm

http://www.independent.ie/editorial/StoryPlus/Mental-health-and-wellness-tips-the-little-things-count.html

fr336 · 31-07-2015 7:06pm

Anxiety making my eyes all sensitive and the sun's just been glaring into them all day

Even through the blinds..it just glares in from the sides. Awful and worried I'm damaging my eyes

Diamond Doll · 31-07-2015 8:38pm

So eh ... I'm back in the dating game.

And ... I've met someone.

He's a single dad himself to a little girl. Who shares my name. Like he said, the four of us are a ready-made little family. With maybe more to add.

It's not ideal, I mean clearly I'm still in turmoil over the break-up. But I'm 110% over my ex. Yes, I move on fast.

I didn't expect to meet someone I like so much so soon. But it's nice.

There's hope for us all!

timecurve12 · 31-07-2015 8:46pm

greenfrogs wrote: »

I can totally relate to this timecurve. I, at times feel like a scrounger as well. In the past, all I used do was focus on my failures and shortcomings. It really drags your mood and energy levels down. Every single day I used to think I was a loser and stupid.

Now, I am applying for jobs on the ce scheme. Sometimes it occurs to me that the government literally as to pay someone to hire me. But, at least I am trying. For me it is a step forward. My ultimate dream is to land a full time job in the area I want to work in and be good at that. I'm very slowly getting there but I am trying.

Other people may look at me as a scrouger but, I know I hard I am trying to gain control of my life. Give yourself a break . You will get through this.

Yes that's how I feel, a loser and stupid. Good luck on the CE scheme, I think it sounds like a great step for you to take. At least you have a goal and know it's for you, more that a lot of people

Thanks for your encouragement, it's just I see everyone around me doing really well, landing jobs no problem. It's funny what Carzony said, that most of the people he knows are unemployed, it's the opposite for me. It just affects me that I keep getting turned down. I don't know what to do... there's one thing I would actually love to do but have no idea how to break into that area, with no experience. I just feel like such a failure, all the time. Like I can't do what everyone else finds so easy.

Did anyone read that thread over on PI about the person with social anxiety? It kind of got me down, so many people who don't accept it as a real condition

mg1982 · 31-07-2015 9:10pm

This little piggy wrote: »

So eh ... I'm back in the dating game.

And ... I've met someone.

He's a single dad himself to a little girl. Who shares my name. Like he said, the four of us are a ready-made little family. With maybe more to add.

It's not ideal, I mean clearly I'm still in turmoil over the break-up. But I'm 110% over my ex. Yes, I move on fast. I didn't expect to meet someone I like so much so soon. But it's nice.

There's hope for us all!

Glad to hear you feeling better. Things seem to be moving fast there with you. Just be careful and take things slow.

alaskayoung · 31-07-2015 9:48pm

I always think to myself that I'd love a group of close friends but then I never do anything to maintain the friendships I do have.

Hugo Stiglitz · 31-07-2015 10:29pm

alaskayoung wrote: »

I always think to myself that I'd love a group of close friends but then I never do anything to maintain the friendships I do have.

Same here Alaska. It's always been a problem for me. You?

Roquentin · 31-07-2015 10:34pm

alaskayoung wrote: »

I always think to myself that I'd love a group of close friends but then I never do anything to maintain the friendships I do have.

an error people make is that they dream of this "good life," you know where they have friends, partners, families and a good job. When we are dreaming we never take into account how stressful these things really are. We only see the good times. Friendship, dating and jobs can reward but they also carry a lot of uncertainty.

People automatically think as well that once they obtain these things that they will become happy. They say friendship and a good job should make them happy. Again its not guaranteed. Thus when people who achieve these things are left unhappy, they wonder what is going wrong.

One has to take into account that the world is unpredictable. the dream life is often just an illusion. "life is great but living is painful" said hunter s thompson. One has to make do with who they are and what they have.

mg1982 · 31-07-2015 11:47pm

alaskayoung wrote: »

I always think to myself that I'd love a group of close friends but then I never do anything to maintain the friendships I do have.

I just seemed to lose interest in making friends a good many years ago. It no longer interests me even though in an ideal world it would be nice thing to have. As roquentin said being around people is very stressfull. I guess im your classic loner.

greenfrogs · 01-08-2015 1:25am

Yah I agree people are stressful. I find myself able to relate to people more recently. I find myself slowly building friendships which suits me. Still a bit of a loner though. I like my alone time.

Wilberto · 01-08-2015 3:47am

alaskayoung wrote: »

I miss my psychologist so much. Between my holidays and hers it's been almost a month since I've seen her and I'm used to seeing her every week. I constantly worry over how attached to her I feel. The idea of losing her scares the life out of me and I feel like that's wrong. I find myself panicking sometimes over what would happen if she left her job or transferred me or died and it puts me on the verge of tears. I feel like if I ever got to the point where she was considering discharge I'd be so tempted to sabotage myself just so she wouldn't leave me.

I wanted to reply to this earlier but couldn't. I can somewhat relate to this. Amazingly though, it's actually with my Account Manager in work rather than a psychologist. She's absolutely brilliant to me. Unfortunately though, she informed me about two weeks ago that she's leaving at the end of August. I was absolutely devastated by it and, to be honest, it almost (if not actually) triggered a fair depressive episode for about a week.

I guess my point to you is that, life will go on regardless of what happens, and that the only person you can guarantee that will be by your side for the rest of your life is yourself. So, you just need to not invest yourself so emotionally in other people and become more independent. I agree though that this is a lot easier said than done!

freudiangirl · 01-08-2015 9:27am

There was a discussion had last night here amongst patients where a lot of people thought they were armchair psychiatrists and what I should be doing.
They were implying that I should.be going home despite me saying I am actively suicidal and if I keep saying it I will never go home.
Now I know it's ignorance on their part but it's hard not to let it get into your head.
Also they ate saying how hard it will be if I don't go home soon....

I hate how people think they have the right to say what they feel and never think il about how.it could affect different people.
Added to this yesterday was a very significant negative date that was already quite triggering in itself so I did not need it

I know these people do not have borderline plus depression so it is hard for them to understand my situation.

I mean do they not think I would like to go home to my children etc. I am genuinely worried I would not even make bus station to get home without being tempted by rivers etc...

I would have thought that the fact that they are in a psych ward themselves, that they would have a bit of empathy or cop on.

I actually felt that they were implying that I was making it up the whole feeling actively suicidal thing.

Sorry for long post.
Very low today...don't even want to talk tbh.
Have visitors coming up from Cork today so have to be bright and chirpy. Meh

freudiangirl · 01-08-2015 9:29am

This little piggy wrote: »

So eh ... I'm back in the dating game.

And ... I've met someone.

He's a single dad himself to a little girl. Who shares my name. Like he said, the four of us are a ready-made little family. With maybe more to add.

It's not ideal, I mean clearly I'm still in turmoil over the break-up. But I'm 110% over my ex. Yes, I move on fast. I didn't expect to meet someone I like so much so soon. But it's nice.

There's hope for us all!

Mind yourself

Gremlinertia · 01-08-2015 12:25pm

Hey Mocha, I'm glad for you but as others said, take care.. These things can move very fast.. Says me with zero experience..
Both group and therapy were bloody hard this week.. Bit down and shook up after them.. However in other news I've begun seeing someone. First time in fifteen odd years. Luckily she understands my problems and is supportive.. Absolutely the last thing I expected to happen.. Happy and scared!.

Diamond Doll · 01-08-2015 12:34pm

I'm taking on board all of your advice, but sometimes the best things can happen at the worst of times!

I mean if anything, I'm fussier than I ever was before, but this guy really gets me. We're on the exact same wavelength.

It might seem crazy for me to pursue a new relationship so soon .... but when you click with someone so much, it seems even crazier to let it go!

Yeah it's moving fast but I've always been a serial monogomist. And maybe - just maybe - this is my forever guy.

timecurve12 · 01-08-2015 12:41pm

freudiangirl wrote: »

There was a discussion had last night here amongst patients where a lot of people thought they were armchair psychiatrists and what I should be doing.
They were implying that I should.be going home despite me saying I am actively suicidal and if I keep saying it I will never go home.
Now I know it's ignorance on their part but it's hard not to let it get into your head.
Also they ate saying how hard it will be if I don't go home soon....

I hate how people think they have the right to say what they feel and never think il about how.it could affect different people.
Added to this yesterday was a very significant negative date that was already quite triggering in itself so I did not need it

I know these people do not have borderline plus depression so it is hard for them to understand my situation.

I mean do they not think I would like to go home to my children etc. I am genuinely worried I would not even make bus station to get home without being tempted by rivers etc...

I would have thought that the fact that they are in a psych ward themselves, that they would have a bit of empathy or cop on.

I actually felt that they were implying that I was making it up the whole feeling actively suicidal thing.

Sorry for long post.
Very low today...don't even want to talk tbh.
Have visitors coming up from Cork today so have to be bright and chirpy. Meh

That's really tough fg, I can see why you would be upset. I had a similar situation, I was really upset and didn't think I do something - I was just in a terrible state, and I just got told 'of course you can'. It makes you feel like your feelings aren't being heard, as well as them downplaying what you're going through. Stick to your guns though, you know what's best for you.

freudiangirl · 01-08-2015 2:00pm

timecurve12 wrote: »

That's really tough fg, I can see why you would be upset. I had a similar situation, I was really upset and didn't think I do something - I was just in a terrible state, and I just got told 'of course you can'. It makes you feel like your feelings aren't being heard, as well as them downplaying what you're going through. Stick to your guns though, you know what's best for you.

I just thought patients would have more empathy in general
.I ahve noticed that mental illness can make some people quite self absorbed and unaware of other people's needs.

alaskayoung · 01-08-2015 2:26pm

Wilberto wrote: »

I guess my point to you is that, life will go on regardless of what happens, and that the only person you can guarantee that will be by your side for the rest of your life is yourself. So, you just need to not invest yourself so emotionally in other people and become more independent. I agree though that this is a lot easier said than done!

That's very true. It's funny in most ways I'd actually consider myself very independent but in this past year or so I just feel the deepest need for people to take care of me, not in any physical sense but emotionally. It's usually always authority figures, certain teachers at school, doctors, my psychologist... Particularly during my weeks in hospital I was desperate for emotional support from the nurses and latched on to a few of them. I found it extremely difficult leaving for that reason. It really scares me though having that kind of reliance on a person because I end up living in fear that they will leave me eventually and where will I be then? I'm hoping that as I get better, I'll feel less vulnerable and my need for them will lessen but it's still something I worry about. I actually dreamt a few nights ago that my psychologist told me she had cancer and would be dead within two weeks! I guess it's just classic BPD fears of abandonment woohoo :P

Hugo Stiglitz · 01-08-2015 2:28pm

alaskayoung wrote: »

I guess it's just classic BPD fears of abandonment woohoo :P

I have huge issues with rejection/abandonment. :eek: Feck!

veganrun · 01-08-2015 2:37pm

Well the first week at the job is finished. Monday morning was very tough, I had very bad anxiety on the way to work but some medication helped.

After that, each subsequent day got easier.

The place seems ok as do the people but its still early days. I'm always wondering am I going to get stuck and be unable to do the job as I haven't done much yet.

Hugo Stiglitz · 01-08-2015 2:42pm

veganrun wrote: »

Well the first week at the job is finished. Monday morning was very tough, I had very bad anxiety on the way to work but some medication helped.

After that, each subsequent day got easier.

The place seems ok as do the people but its still early days. I'm always wondering am I going to get stuck and be unable to do the job as I haven't done much yet.

Glad to hear that you got through it.

I'm sure you'll be grand there. Try mix as best as you can, this can make asking questions a bit easier I've found.

pheasant tail · 01-08-2015 3:21pm

freudiangirl wrote: »

There was a discussion had last night here amongst patients where a lot of people thought they were armchair psychiatrists and what I should be doing.
They were implying that I should.be going home despite me saying I am actively suicidal and if I keep saying it I will never go home.
Now I know it's ignorance on their part but it's hard not to let it get into your head.
Also they ate saying how hard it will be if I don't go home soon....

I hate how people think they have the right to say what they feel and never think il about how.it could affect different people.
Added to this yesterday was a very significant negative date that was already quite triggering in itself so I did not need it

I know these people do not have borderline plus depression so it is hard for them to understand my situation.

I mean do they not think I would like to go home to my children etc. I am genuinely worried I would not even make bus station to get home without being tempted by rivers etc...

I would have thought that the fact that they are in a psych ward themselves, that they would have a bit of empathy or cop on.

I actually felt that they were implying that I was making it up the whole feeling actively suicidal thing.

Sorry for long post.
Very low today...don't even want to talk tbh.
Have visitors coming up from Cork today so have to be bright and chirpy. Meh

Hi Fredian girl. Don't worry about spending too long in there, your in there for a reason and your to go home when yourself and your team feel your ready. I got much the same too during my stays in Pats, others that have been in and out telling you what they think, what you should do, they know best etc, pass no remarks. People can mean well and while everyone with mental illness has something in common, no 2 situations are the same. Hope you get sorted

greenfrogs · 01-08-2015 4:49pm

freudiangirl wrote: »

I just thought patients would have more empathy in general
.I ahve noticed that mental illness can make some people quite self absorbed and unaware of other people's needs.

I think any serious illness can make people very self absorbed. It's only in the last while I have realised that for months my illness was my main concern. It was more important to me than anything to the point I ignored other parts of my life. Now I realise as I have gotten better I have time for other things and people in my life. I think what worked for me is fantastic yet my treatment may not have worked for the next person. Try not to listen to armchair psychiatrists as you call them.

freudiangirl · 01-08-2015 7:34pm

pheasant tail wrote: »

Hi Fredian girl. Don't worry about spending too long in there, your in there for a reason and your to go home when yourself and your team feel your ready. I got much the same too during my stays in Pats, others that have been in and out telling you what they think, what you should do, they know best etc, pass no remarks. People can mean well and while everyone with mental illness has something in common, no 2 situations are the same. Hope you get sorted

Thanks it's just I was made feel that it was wrong for me to feel the way I did after the exchange. I also have bpd so it's a big thing I tend to ruminate a lot and the littlest thing can set me off.
Thing is one of the patients who also has bpd said to them after I had said it triggered me.
"Oh that's part of her illness " as if I was being dramatic.

I just feel people especially in here (st pats) need to think a bit more
Not all of us have a biological depression that can be sorted with meds.

I think I will stick to myself in future.

scrimshanker · 01-08-2015 9:47pm

Big feeling of oh feck

freudiangirl · 01-08-2015 9:56pm

scrimshanker wrote: »

Big feeling of oh feck

Me too but I know why.
Am taking meds early and going to bed .
Just can't cope with today

Hugo Stiglitz · 01-08-2015 9:58pm

scrimshanker wrote: »

Big feeling of oh feck

freudiangirl wrote: »

Me too but I know why.
Am taking meds early and going to bed .
Just can't cope with today

Sorry to hear that ladies. Hopefully things will turn around for ye both soon there. x

freudiangirl · 01-08-2015 10:46pm

Night All.
I acted on urges I should not have and now have physical discomfort as well mental pain.
I just can't seem to stop

Hugo Stiglitz · 01-08-2015 10:48pm

freudiangirl wrote: »

Night All.
I acted on urges I should not have and now have physical discomfort as well mental pain.
I just can't seem to stop

Mind yourself there FG. Night.

scrimshanker · 01-08-2015 10:59pm

freudiangirl wrote: »

Night All.
I acted on urges I should not have and now have physical discomfort as well mental pain.
I just can't seem to stop

Night night, fg. I hope tomorrow is a better day for you. If you ever need to talk, send me a PM or something. Can't guarantee I will know what to say but I'll listen.

Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

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