Canada: IEC 2012 Now Open

Helix · 02-01-2012 3:29pm

kraggy wrote: »

But the requirements say that you have to have spent 18 months out of the 3years prior to applying, in Ireland.

You got lucky by the sounds of it.

everyone else i know in the same boat must have gotten lucky too

i dont think it's a factor tbh. if youre an irish national i cant see there being any problems

decision · 02-01-2012 3:32pm

Helix wrote: »

everyone else i know in the same boat must have gotten lucky too

i dont think it's a factor tbh. if youre an irish national i cant see there being any problems

only time will tell i suppose. im trying to get my hands on a copy of the 2011 rules to see how they compared. not gonna go through the bother of getting a UK police certificate if there's no chance I qualify

Wanderer81 · 02-01-2012 4:53pm

Hey all, just in Canada at the moment on my first working visa and intended on applying for the 2nd, my garda certificate is still valid for another 2 months. I sent the original away to Paris last year, was wondering if they would accept a copy or do I have to reapply for a new certificate? Cheers everyone for all the helpful advice given out here, its much appreciated.

Helix · 02-01-2012 5:10pm

you have to have an original sent

FoosChic · 02-01-2012 7:13pm

https://www.facebook.com/groups/293814990664354/

Decided to set up a facebook group for anyone who wants to discuss IEC etc...join if interested and we'll see how it goes!

decision · 02-01-2012 7:45pm

FoosChic wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/groups/293814990664354/

Decided to set up a facebook group for anyone who wants to discuss IEC etc...join if interested and we'll see how it goes!

good idea - we need something specific rather than 'irish in canada' or the likes

jimmybeige · 02-01-2012 10:29pm

Currently applying for my second year. Just a few questions for anyone who's going/gone through it.

Country of residence is Canada right? Even if we are not permanent residents? Is our status in canada 'worker' if so? And do you just put in the dates of your visa start/end in the from/to fields?

Details of intented work in Canada.
Do I put down my current job? Do I put down unknown? Do I need to fill this in at all or does is apply for a work permit rather than IEC? Same with duration of expected employment.

thanks!

Helix · 03-01-2012 5:52am

the intended work one isnt applicable, its covered in the FAQs on the site. iirc you may put in IEC or something like that there, i cant remember from when i did it

your country of residence is indeed canada, your status in canada is temporary worker, and you put in the visa dates

theres also a bit later in the form where it asks about previous work visas etc, fill all your previous information in there too

Daith · 03-01-2012 10:31am

Folks,

More related to the 2011 one but maybe some can help. I got my LOI last August and it states that the permit validty is to 2013/8/12? I though I would only have a year from August to go so it should expire 2012/8/12?

Does that seem odd?

retalivity · 03-01-2012 7:06pm

Im back in canada now after being home for xmas....had all the forms ready & filled out, just waiting on the garda cert & then my ma is gonna send it all away for me from ireland.

regarding the 18 month thing...i was initially worried about this, but i've got it on pretty good authority that this is just a check to ensure that people arent moving into a country, just to apply for a visa to canada, when they're not really resident e.g. someone moves to ireland, gets refugee status/residency, then immediately applies for a visa to move to canada, etc.

puts my mind to rest now.

also, walking through security at toronto airport on new years eve on the way back, i was worried about the fact ive only 2ish months left on my visa....security man had no problem at all, said just ensure you have another one in place by then.
everything seems more relaxed this time around...

C@non · 03-01-2012 7:25pm

retalivity wrote: »

Im back in canada now after being home for xmas....had all the forms ready & filled out, just waiting on the garda cert & then my ma is gonna send it all away for me from ireland.

regarding the 18 month thing...i was initially worried about this, but i've got it on pretty good authority that this is just a check to ensure that people arent moving into a country, just to apply for a visa to canada, when they're not really resident e.g. someone moves to ireland, gets refugee status/residency, then immediately applies for a visa to move to canada, etc.

puts my mind to rest now.

also, walking through security at toronto airport on new years eve on the way back, i was worried about the fact ive only 2ish months left on my visa....security man had no problem at all, said just ensure you have another one in place by then.
everything seems more relaxed this time around...

can i ask did you include the Check list? intructions are so vague this year compared to last!

can2011 · 03-01-2012 7:42pm

has anyones application been delivered but you have not received an email yet?

retalivity · 03-01-2012 8:00pm

C@non wrote: »

can i ask did you include the Check list? intructions are so vague this year compared to last!

Im not going to include the checklist. There was no reference to it on the 2012 page, the only place ive seen it is through this forum.

Edit: I still havent sent mine in. Waiting on my police cert. Also just realised I havent paid yet......need to include a copy of the receipt

DazzlerIE · 03-01-2012 8:05pm

retalivity wrote: »

Im not going to include the checklist. There was no reference to it on the 2012 page, the only place ive seen it is through this forum.

Edit: I still havent sent mine in. Waiting on my police cert. Also just realised I havent paid yet......need to include a copy of the receipt

paid for what?

retalivity · 03-01-2012 8:06pm

paid the 150 for the visa. You need to include a receipt for that in your application

Edit: Here, in the instruction guide http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5487ETOC.asp#pay-fee

DazzlerIE · 03-01-2012 8:23pm

retalivity wrote: »

paid the 150 for the visa. You need to include a receipt for that in your application

Edit: Here, in the instruction guide http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5487ETOC.asp#pay-fee

So the process has changed from last year?

You pay now as you are applying?

DazzlerIE · 03-01-2012 8:24pm

I really don't think that's correct at all

retalivity · 03-01-2012 8:25pm

im struggling to remember what the payment process was last year.....did we not do that last year too? Or was it a postal order or something?

DazzlerIE · 03-01-2012 8:31pm

retalivity wrote: »

im struggling to remember what the payment process was last year.....did we not do that last year too? Or was it a postal order or something?

You applied, got conditional acceptance from Paris, then your application was sent to London after you forwarded them the cash

ShortskirtCiara · 03-01-2012 9:58pm

When the IEC crowd sent the initial email saying the application process was now open, they said you don't pay anything until you receive an email acknowledging your application and in that email there will be instructions on how to pay the fee etc.

C@non · 03-01-2012 9:59pm

No lads!! payment is Step 3

"Make sure that you are eligible to apply before you pay the fees and gather all the required documents before you submit the application."

Last year when you were accepted in paris the next step was payment.. and after they received payment they forwarded all your documents to london for final aproval!

ShortskirtCiara · 03-01-2012 10:02pm

C@non wrote: »

No lads!! payment is Step 3

"Make sure that you are eligible to apply before you pay the fees and gather all the required documents before you submit the application."

Last year when you were accepted in paris the next step was payment.. and after they received payment they forwarded all your documents to london for final aproval!

I sent my application to London 2 weeks ago at this stage. Please tell me I didn't have to send payment? I could cry now :-(

EDIT: Are yee referring to a Work Permit or the IEC? or are they the same??

C@non · 03-01-2012 10:10pm

I am reffereing to the IEC, last year they received all your forms and when they gave the all ok that they had all the rite forms they requested payment. i think if you pay now they may take it or just ignore it.
Last year they send ane email with account numbers and instructions to follow!

I am pretty sure that this is what we have to do this year too i cant see why it would be different as every other year. And also the fact that is says "step 3 Payment" and we only have to follow step 1 and 2 and send it off before anything else..

ShortskirtCiara · 03-01-2012 10:23pm

C@non wrote: »

I am reffereing to the IEC, last year they received all your forms and when they gave the all ok that they had all the rite forms they requested payment. i think if you pay now they may take it or just ignore it.
Last year they send ane email with account numbers and instructions to follow!

I am pretty sure that this is what we have to do this year too i cant see why it would be different as every other year. And also the fact that is says "step 3 Payment" and we only have to follow step 1 and 2 and send it off before anything else..

Jese I really hope so, but it says at step 3, that if payment isnt included with your application, then it will be sent back.

C@non · 03-01-2012 11:16pm

Im very sure its only for other non IEC application

they quote

"Submitting Your Application Package
Note: Please arrange your documents as indicated in the first and second sets of documents (Steps 1 to 8)"

Zapp Brannigan · 03-01-2012 11:53pm

can2011 wrote: »

has anyones application been delivered but you have not received an email yet?

Mines been delivered before Christmas and I've not gotten an email yet. But, the office has been closed over Christmas and today was their first day open so I'm expecting one in the next few days.

token101 · 04-01-2012 12:02am

Does anyone know if a UK Police cert is required if you were a student in the UK? From what I remember last year if you had a clean Garda cert they didnt need it, but that seems to have changed.

ShortskirtCiara · 04-01-2012 12:02am

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Mines been delivered before Christmas and I've not gotten an email yet. But, the office has been closed over Christmas and today was their first day open so I'm expecting one in the next few days.

Did you send the fee over in your application?

Zapp Brannigan · 04-01-2012 12:07am

No, no mention of that in the application guide.

The only thing I didn't do was correctly arrange the papers and I didn't mark it for attention of IEC, but those weren't mentioned in the guide when I sent it (20/12/11)

kraggy · 04-01-2012 2:49am

token101 wrote: »

Does anyone know if a UK Police cert is required if you were a student in the UK? From what I remember last year if you had a clean Garda cert they didnt need it, but that seems to have changed.

If you've spent 6 months or more in any country since you were 18 you have to get a police cert from that country.

I had to get one from the UK. Get cracking at it immediately. It takes about 3 weeks by the time you send it, they process it and send it back. Or if you pay extra (70 pounds) they will process it in 2 days and then send it back to you.

The normal price is 35 pounds.

This is the link:

http://www.acpo.police.uk/documents/Application_Form.pdf

skibop · 04-01-2012 3:28pm

Hi guys and girls.

I am just looking for some help/advice regarding the 2012 iec visa. I am already on the 2011 visa which runs out in mid April. They have changed the application process and I am having a couple of problems.

1/ The requirements for last year was that I am resident of Ireland and you didn't really need any proof so that all went fine. I have spent pretty much the last 2 years(prior to the 8 months I just spent in Canada) living in the states and the 7 years before this I lived in the UK, which I put down on the c.v. which I sent with my application and put it on the work history section of the visa application. This year it says

Residency Requirements

What does “3 years habitual residency requirement” mean?

This means that that a candidate’s habitual residence (i.e. physically residing/living) must be in Ireland for a period of at least three years full-time directly prior to applying to the IEC. An exception can be made if the candidate has temporarily resided in a foreign country for studies or short-term work, but the time spent outside Ireland must not exceed 18 months cumulative over the three previous years.

My problem is I will have to put in new information of where I lived and I dont know if they will cross reference it with the previous years forms (probably not I am hoping).

Also my passport has stamps of when I entered and left usa. I was their on a visa and did not overstay but i am afraid when I am entering Canada they might see that I was in the USA for almost 2 years and thus I would not be eligible but I guess by then I will have the visa.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Robert

Zapp Brannigan · 04-01-2012 4:22pm

Got my email from them today. So everything I sent was correct.

They said I'll receive an email within two weeks informing me whether I meet the criteria or not and then they'll instruct me how to pay.

Nearly there now!

retalivity · 04-01-2012 4:25pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Got my email from them today. So everything I sent was correct.

They said I'll receive an email within two weeks informing me whether I meet the criteria or not and then they'll instruct me how to pay.

Nearly there now!

Great!
Everyone else, disregard anything i said about paying the fee up front. The website doesnt make it easy at all...

token101 · 04-01-2012 6:03pm

kraggy wrote: »

If you've spent 6 months or more in any country since you were 18 you have to get a police cert from that country.

I had to get one from the UK. Get cracking at it immediately. It takes about 3 weeks by the time you send it, they process it and send it back. Or if you pay extra (70 pounds) they will process it in 2 days and then send it back to you.

The normal price is 35 pounds.

This is the link:

http://www.acpo.police.uk/documents/Application_Form.pdf

Cheers did it today all sent off. Bit of a pain tbh and way OTT.

The photo verification part is absolutely daft and the stupidest/prejudiced thing Ive ever heard of. Went into my Garda station and asked could they verify it was me by bringing the photos and the passport for proof. They said no because they hadnt known me for two years....and to try my doctor??? The person who validates the photo has to have known you two years and theres a list of professions who can validate the photo and those who cant. So they include any executives or judges or even teachers who may know you, but not carpenters, plumbers or tradesmen in general!!! I think trusty bankers are OK aswell, but not bricklayers (who are of course the cause of the economic mess)

memaul · 04-01-2012 6:27pm

token101 wrote: »

Cheers did it today all sent off. Bit of a pain tbh and way OTT.

The photo verification part is absolutely daft and the stupidest/prejudiced thing Ive ever heard of. Went into my Garda station and asked could they verify it was me by bringing the photos and the passport for proof. They said no because they hadnt known me for two years....and to try my doctor??? The person who validates the photo has to have known you two years and theres a list of professions who can validate the photo and those who cant. So they include any executives or judges or even teachers who may know you, but not carpenters, plumbers or tradesmen in general!!! I think trusty bankers are OK aswell, but not bricklayers (who are of course the cause of the economic mess)

hi ya token,

i'm all set to post off my application in the morning (well i thought i was) but i just seen your post about the photo verification and i'm wondering what your on about. i had a look through the specifications and didn't see anything and i'm just wondering am i missing something.

cheers

token101 · 04-01-2012 7:13pm

memaul wrote: »

hi ya token,

i'm all set to post off my application in the morning (well i thought i was) but i just seen your post about the photo verification and i'm wondering what your on about. i had a look through the specifications and didn't see anything and i'm just wondering am i missing something.

cheers

Hi,

Im referring to an UK police cert here, I went to college over there so had to get a UK police cert on top of the Garda one (which is easy to get compared to the nonsense and cost involved in the UK one). So unless you lived in the UK for any reason for 6 months or more you can disregard what i said.

ShortskirtCiara · 04-01-2012 7:44pm

retalivity wrote: »

Great!
Everyone else, disregard anything i said about paying the fee up front. The website doesnt make it easy at all...

Thank god!!! I was freaking out last night!!

Happy Days!

ShortskirtCiara · 04-01-2012 7:46pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Got my email from them today. So everything I sent was correct.

They said I'll receive an email within two weeks informing me whether I meet the criteria or not and then they'll instruct me how to pay.

Nearly there now!

Did you sign & date your photos? I only signed them :-/

Zapp Brannigan · 04-01-2012 8:10pm

Nope. My photos were left blank.

I guess I'll find out soon whether or not I should've.

Fromvert · 04-01-2012 11:20pm

This is my second year applying, where can i find my UCI number?

MJRS · 05-01-2012 1:00am

Fromvert wrote: »

This is my second year applying, where can i find my UCI number?

Supposed to be on your letter of introduction from last year but it wasn't on mine

I blame USIT. For this, being rip off merchants and for causing global warming.

tireoghain12 · 05-01-2012 2:24am

Just got my ACPO cert back today. Only posted it on christmas eve using the standard service so I think that's a pretty quick turnaround given the holidays.

Quick question, I'm filling out the work permit form and I'm not sure what to put down as the 'to' date on my current job. Do I leave it blank as I'm still presently in the job or do I put down this month? I'm afraid of leaving it blank and it not accepting my application.

Fromvert · 05-01-2012 7:12am

MJRS wrote: »

Supposed to be on your letter of introduction from last year but it wasn't on mine

I blame USIT. For this, being rip off merchants and for causing global warming.

What did you fill in for yours?

There is a Permit Number and a File Number on my LOI, any chance it's one of them.

Also found an email from last year which has an ID number in it. Could it be that?

eoinglynn101 · 05-01-2012 5:18pm

Does anyone know what to put down for "Details for Intended Work in Canada" in the work permit form. It asks for name of employer and stuff and I don't have a job sorted out yet. This is my First time going to Canada on a working visa

makita · 05-01-2012 5:47pm

eoinglynn101 wrote: »

Does anyone know what to put down for "Details for Intended Work in Canada" in the work permit form. It asks for name of employer and stuff and I don't have a job sorted out yet. This is my First time going to Canada on a working visa

put down "unknown" as far as I know

C@non · 05-01-2012 6:02pm

Fromvert wrote: »

This is my second year applying, where can i find my UCI number?

Its your client ID number on your work visa.. 8 digit number like " 5555-5555"

jimmybeige · 05-01-2012 6:11pm

Hi,
I've gone through the steps here for the application, and filled out the forms mentioned here, steps 1-8:
http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/ireland-irlande/experience_canada_experience/application_guide-guide_demande.aspx?view=d

In the reminders it says to read the following:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5487ETOC.asp#5487E4

This however says you need a checklist? Where is this? And these documents need to be filled out:
Schedule 1 ─ Application for a Temporary Resident Visa Made Outside of Canada (IMM 5257 ─ Schedule 1)
Statutory Declaration of Common-law Union (IMM 5409)
Use of a Representative (IMM 5476)

Are these required for the IEC?? They are not mentioned in steps 1-8? I am a bit confused.

Pacifico · 05-01-2012 6:18pm

Just got a mail from USIT saying this is closing soon?!

Places are hardly filling up that fast are they??

C@non · 05-01-2012 6:46pm

Dont book via usit do it via www.goforless.ie only 78 euro. same service!!

but the checklist i found is

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5488E.PDF

My self a a lot of people didnt enter it, but at this point i can just say they will receive a lot of non consistant application!

But also they want proof of payment and all the rest.. the only think i can think is that they may request a fe more forms eventually as in step 3 and then step 4 i guess is you letter of introduction.

but yes its all very messy!

memaul · 05-01-2012 7:02pm

token101 wrote: »

Hi,

Im referring to an UK police cert here, I went to college over there so had to get a UK police cert on top of the Garda one (which is easy to get compared to the nonsense and cost involved in the UK one). So unless you lived in the UK for any reason for 6 months or more you can disregard what i said.

cheers for that

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