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E39MSport · 12-03-2012 5:05pm

That seems like a good enough deal !

MetzgerMeister · 12-03-2012 5:15pm

TestTransmission wrote: »

Looks the job, I need a new power washer myself.Co-Op in Limerick is selling the Karcher 2.21 for 99 yoyo.Good price?

I think the Karcher I have is 2. something. It's a small enough washer which I have to move to get around the car.

That's why I'm going to get the one in Lidl on Thursday for €120. Bigger construction, 6m hose as opposed to the karcher's 1.5m. Also, the Lidl one has the hose on a reel which makes it very handy.

vectra · 12-03-2012 6:59pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

I think the Karcher I have is 2. something. It's a small enough washer which I have to move to get around the car.

That's why I'm going to get the one in Lidl on Thursday for €120. Bigger construction, 6m hose as opposed to the karcher's 1.5m. Also, the Lidl one has the hose on a reel which makes it very handy.

Had one of those.. The hose on the reel is a pain in the butt.. Good washer though and you get LIdl 3 year warranty

TestTransmission · 12-03-2012 7:42pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

I think the Karcher I have is 2. something. It's a small enough washer which I have to move to get around the car.

That's why I'm going to get the one in Lidl on Thursday for €120. Bigger construction, 6m hose as opposed to the karcher's 1.5m. Also, the Lidl one has the hose on a reel which makes it very handy.

vectra wrote: »

Had one of those.. The hose on the reel is a pain in the butt.. Good washer though and you get LIdl 3 year warranty

Oh, I'm so conflicted.

Northern Monkey · 12-03-2012 7:57pm

Get a nilfisk and an extension hose for the lance.

MetzgerMeister · 12-03-2012 8:13pm

TestTransmission wrote: »

Oh, I'm so conflicted.

You were whinging about innuendos and here you are seeing them and pointing them out

vectra - whether it's a pain or not, it can't be any worse than what I have to do at the moment - try to get the hose to curl then wrap it around the handle hoping it doesn't all come loose!

vectra · 12-03-2012 8:41pm

Problem I saw with it was the reel was so small the hose rolled up tight, when you pull out the hose it would curl up behind me and each time you try to mave around the car it started slapping off it. = Marks on the paint :eek:

Handed it back and told them it was broken after about 11 months,, Got a full refund and bought a smaller one.

TestTransmission · 12-03-2012 9:55pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

You were whinging about innuendos and here you are seeing them and pointing them out

Wasn't on purpose, one of ye was pointing out a part as ingenious and another as a flaw in the design.Seeing as Vectra doesn't clay his car I've lost all respect for his opinion though

vectra · 13-03-2012 12:55am

TestTransmission wrote: »

Wasn't on purpose, one of ye was pointing out a part as ingenious and another as a flaw in the design.Seeing as Vectra doesn't clay his car I've lost all respect for his opinion though

When you see my car point out to me where I am wrong

E39MSport · 13-03-2012 2:34pm

re: the Nilfisk - I had one and it gave up the ghost pretty quick. Only lasted about 10 months and couldn't have been used more than 10 times in total. Nice power from it for its size but very flimsy imo.

Fizman · 13-03-2012 2:57pm

Where can I get that Gunk engine degreaser? Tried one or two links online last night but delivering was a problem. Looking at doing a job on my engine bay soon. Or any other suggestions?

TestTransmission · 13-03-2012 3:11pm

Fizman wrote: »

Where can I get that Gunk engine degreaser? Tried one or two links online last night but delivering was a problem. Looking at doing a job on my engine bay soon. Or any other suggestions?

APC will do the job.

vectra · 13-03-2012 3:25pm

Fizman wrote: »

Where can I get that Gunk engine degreaser? Tried one or two links online last night but delivering was a problem. Looking at doing a job on my engine bay soon. Or any other suggestions?

Local Motor Factor's I usually get it.

TestTransmission wrote: »

APC will do the job.

APC is good but for bedded in oily/dirt you need Gunk or similar.

TestTransmission · 13-03-2012 4:56pm

He could try the APC first to see how well he gets on though

listermint · 13-03-2012 5:19pm

TestTransmission wrote: »

He could try the APC first to see how well he gets on though

Cillit Bang works wonders, Id post a picture of my engine bay but it would probably blind you all

E39MSport · 14-03-2012 9:30am

TestTransmission wrote: »

He could try the APC first to see how well he gets on though

And a bit of agitation with an appropriate brush, leave it for a bit the wipe/rinse off.

MetzgerMeister · 14-03-2012 11:41am

listermint wrote: »

Cillit Bang works wonders, Id post a picture of my engine bay but it would probably blind you all

/puts on sunglasses and awaits photo :cool:

listermint · 14-03-2012 3:13pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

/puts on sunglasses and awaits photo :cool:

Challenge accepted.

Took this just now. Could do with a WD40 but im ok with it.

sean1141 · 14-03-2012 3:25pm

TestTransmission wrote: »

He could try the APC first to see how well he gets on though

vectra wrote: »

Local Motor Factor's I usually get it.

APC is good but for bedded in oily/dirt you need Gunk or similar.

can get gunk in halfords

i use autoglym engine and machine cleaner. spray loads on. rub in with an old paint brush and rince off!

sean1141 · 14-03-2012 3:27pm

looking for a good polish to get rid of some swirll marks on the car... cant decide between

http://www.cleancar.ie/gtechniq-p1-nanocomposite-polish.html

or

http://www.cleancar.ie/chemicalguys-p40polish.html

vectra · 14-03-2012 3:34pm

sean1141 wrote: »

can get gunk in halfords

i use autoglym engine and machine cleaner. spray loads on. rub in with an old paint brush and rince off!

I would assume so.
If not try to get Jizer

sean1141 wrote: »

looking for a good polish to get rid of some swirll marks on the car... cant decide between

http://www.cleancar.ie/gtechniq-p1-nanocomposite-polish.html

or

http://www.cleancar.ie/chemicalguys-p40polish.html

I cannot comment on Gtechniq
I did use P40 > While it is excellent as a cleaning polish prior to waxing/sealing, You would have your work cut out to remove swirls. I do think a DA is the only way

MetzgerMeister · 14-03-2012 3:37pm

@listermint - that's lovely!

I don't like M3 owners though...

sean1141 · 14-03-2012 3:38pm

i have a da

vectra · 14-03-2012 3:45pm

sean1141 wrote: »

i have a da

Ah,
I would be anxious to try the Gtechniq stuff.
I did use "Fixer" and Megs MF pads I got from Brian @ spiritdetailing.. It did some job on the Toledo..

listermint · 14-03-2012 3:46pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

@listermint - that's lovely!

I don't like M3 owners though...

That is okay, We are all p****s anyway

listermint · 14-03-2012 3:48pm

sean1141 wrote: »

looking for a good polish to get rid of some swirll marks on the car... cant decide between

http://www.cleancar.ie/gtechniq-p1-nanocomposite-polish.html

or

http://www.cleancar.ie/chemicalguys-p40polish.html

Should check out this thread

http://www.bmw-driver.net/forum/showthread.php?p=428517#post428517

Seen it this morning, impressive results for scratch filling. Even the hand polishing alone made a sizeable impact.

MetzgerMeister · 14-03-2012 3:50pm

listermint wrote: »

That is okay, We are all p****s anyway

The reason I don't like them is because I would love an M3 and I get slightly jealous

listermint · 14-03-2012 3:52pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

The reason I don't like them is because I would love an M3 and I get slightly jealous

Id give you mine, but as stated im a serious P***k

No mines gonna be heirloomed

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 14-03-2012 4:04pm

Awaits kudos

Aerospace 303 + elbow grease.

listermint · 14-03-2012 4:16pm

Nayeli Shaggy Summer wrote: »

Awaits kudos Aerospace 303 + elbow grease.

[IMG]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i210/Nayeli Shaggy Summer/IMG_5581.jpg[/IMG]

Now there is a man to hate

sean1141 · 14-03-2012 4:29pm

listermint wrote: »

Should check out this thread

http://www.bmw-driver.net/forum/showthread.php?p=428517#post428517

Seen it this morning, impressive results for scratch filling. Even the hand polishing alone made a sizeable impact.

have some of that glosworks but it hasnt filled the scratches. they are still visiable. i would rather cut them out than fill them! now saying that i havent used it with the dual action, just by hand

listermint · 14-03-2012 4:33pm

sean1141 wrote: »

have some of that glosworks but it hasnt filled the scratches. they are still visiable. i would rather cut them out than fill them! now saying that i havent used it with the dual action, just by hand

Give it a go with the DA before buying something else.

Personally Ive had good experience with Menzerna Polishes and Pads that i got in cleancar. Depends on the swirls need to go heavy pad and heavy cut if they are bad.

But as with anything no one can guarantee 100% swirl free.

listermint · 14-03-2012 4:42pm

sean1141 wrote: »

have some of that glosworks but it hasnt filled the scratches. they are still visiable. i would rather cut them out than fill them! now saying that i havent used it with the dual action, just by hand

As an aside, did you remove any previous sealants (waxes etc) from the surface prior to doing hand polish ?

sean1141 · 14-03-2012 4:48pm

listermint wrote: »

Give it a go with the DA before buying something else.

Personally Ive had good experience with Menzerna Polishes and Pads that i got in cleancar. Depends on the swirls need to go heavy pad and heavy cut if they are bad.

But as with anything no one can guarantee 100% swirl free.

ya i used menzerna polishs too. not bad but i found them hard to work. the marks on the car are not bad its more me being fussy!

listermint wrote: »

As an aside, did you remove any previous sealants (waxes etc) from the surface prior to doing hand polish ?

ya i washed the car with fairy liquid. i didnt clay it but i plan to this time

listermint · 14-03-2012 5:27pm

sean1141 wrote: »

ya i used menzerna polishs too. not bad but i found them hard to work. the marks on the car are not bad its more me being fussy!

ya i washed the car with fairy liquid. i didnt clay it but i plan to this time

Definitely clay it you'll see noticeable difference. Are you x2 / x3 stage polishing? Hows the paint is it hard paint? how as the weather when you were working. The menzerna;s to me didnt appear too hard to work with at all.

Fiona · 14-03-2012 5:54pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

The reason I don't like them is because I would love an M3 and I get slightly jealous

If you want it that bad you will achieve it. Set a goal for yourself and plan for it. And also say a little prayer to lady luck!

listermint wrote: »

Now there is a man to hate

Urgh got it in one! Will you do mine please?

Marty McFly · 14-03-2012 6:04pm

Ive never used a clay bar on my car, normally id use the cleanser, polish then wax. Am I really missing out by not claying?

MetzgerMeister · 14-03-2012 6:14pm

luvbulmers01 wrote: »

Ive never used a clay bar on my car, normally id use the cleanser, polish then wax. Am I really missing out by not claying?

Not really. Are you using a D/A with the cleanser? If not then you're not getting the full benefit of the cleanser.

Cleanser (with D/A) and claybar are almost the same thing to a certain extent.

Marty McFly · 14-03-2012 6:23pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Not really. Are you using a D/A with the cleanser? If not then you're not getting the full benefit of the cleanser.

Cleanser (with D/A) and claybar are almost the same thing to a certain extent.

No Im not using a d/a (had to go check out what d/a meant

) id be doing it using some elbow grease would it make that much of a differance?

sean1141 · 14-03-2012 6:43pm

listermint wrote: »

Definitely clay it you'll see noticeable difference. Are you x2 / x3 stage polishing? Hows the paint is it hard paint? how as the weather when you were working. The menzerna;s to me didnt appear too hard to work with at all.

ya i have used clay before. just hadnt the time/weather the last time i gave it a good going over.

what do you mean by x2/x3 stage polishing? im guessing you mean an aggressive cut followed by a lighter cut followed by a finishing polish.. if so i have done that about this time last year..

car is a 05 seat leon

TomMc · 14-03-2012 6:48pm

If working by hand, you are better using an all in one cleaner sealant (chemical cleaners), rather than a cutting polish (abrasive). With an AIO, you just work it into the paint. You do not have abrasives to break down, so they are gentler on paint and require less elbow grease to apply. They will not remove scratches or swirls, but will deep clean the paint even better than regular polishes do. If you clay beforehand, all the better.

vectra · 14-03-2012 7:15pm

sean1141 wrote: »

ya i have used clay before. just hadnt the time/weather the last time i gave it a good going over.

what do you mean by x2/x3 stage polishing? im guessing you mean an aggressive cut followed by a lighter cut followed by a finishing polish.. if so i have done that about this time last year..

car is a 05 seat leon

That Seat paint is a Bugger to cut with a DA.. I spent almost 50 hours cutting the Toledo.. In fairness it was bad to start with.. No way near as good as your paint Sean.. It does look 500% better now.

MetzgerMeister · 14-03-2012 7:16pm

mrs crilly wrote: »

If you want it that bad you will achieve it. Set a goal for yourself and plan for it. And also say a little prayer to lady luck

The only thing putting me off is €1566 per year to tax. Not a hope i can afford that right now. My tax renewal is coming up in May and it'll be €925 and I can barely handle that!

luvbulmers01 wrote: »

No Im not using a d/a (had to go check out what d/a meant ) id be doing it using some elbow grease would it make that much of a differance?

You can't move your hand fast enough in order to break down the chemicals on paint cleaners. That's why you need a D/A.

Neilw · 15-03-2012 9:40am

vectra wrote: »

That Seat paint is a Bugger to cut with a DA.. I spent almost 50 hours cutting the Toledo.. In fairness it was bad to start with.. No way near as good as your paint Sean.. It does look 500% better now.

Very true, didn't see much cut with a dual action on mine. Upgraded to a rotary and have not looked back. Time saved is well worth the outlay.
I bought a beginner rotary, dodo spindoctor as I'm only using it for personal use. Very happy with it so far.

E39MSport · 15-03-2012 11:03am

woohoo

TURRICAN · 15-03-2012 11:11am

hey guys need some help here.
i have a sealey rotary machine and want to get rid of swirlmarks.
i have an autoglym s160 pad and 03b fine abrasive.
can i use that to get the marks out and then polish it with deep shine wax.
cheers.

vectra · 15-03-2012 12:08pm

Neilw wrote: »

Very true, didn't see much cut with a dual action on mine. Upgraded to a rotary and have not looked back. Time saved is well worth the outlay.
I bought a beginner rotary, dodo spindoctor as I'm only using it for personal use. Very happy with it so far.

Have thought about getting a rotary as well for initial cuts, and finish off with the DA

imolazed · 15-03-2012 12:17pm

vectra wrote: »

Have thought about getting a rotary as well for initial cuts, and finish off with the DA

Definitely hang onto to your DA if you get the Rotary, much easier to finish with and safer on plastic parts.

MetzgerMeister · 15-03-2012 12:21pm

vectra wrote: »

Have thought about getting a rotary as well for initial cuts, and finish off with the DA

With regards a rotary, you have to be more cautious as they can easily burn through paint.

imolazed · 15-03-2012 12:55pm

sean1141 wrote: »

looking for a good polish to get rid of some swirll marks on the car... cant decide between

http://www.cleancar.ie/gtechniq-p1-nanocomposite-polish.html

or

http://www.cleancar.ie/chemicalguys-p40polish.html

The P1 is slightly harder work as it's water-based and therefore not as well lubricated. I find you have to work smaller areas and you'll get more dust.

P40 is oily and stays wet long enough to be throughly worked by hand.

Both have superb cutting power. As an example we've tested P40 against Autoglym Paint Renovator (which is supposed to be very abrasive). Correction was much greater on the P40 side of the panel.

I think I read you're using a machine so I'd probably go for the P1 and keep the speed slightly lower than normal.

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