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  • #552
    quadrifoglio verde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    I'd recommend relaxing.

    If you want to be very well prepared, have a look at Hart's Introduction to Organic Chemistry (don't bother with LC Chem, it's too basic especially if you already did it before). On the biology end of things, Google does the job. Bit of cell biology and then some physiology and you'll be better off than most LCers.

    But really though, relax. As anyone in the course can testify, you'll learn 90% of the material in the last few days/weeks before the exams :pac:

    last few days:eek:....last few minutes before the exam:cool:


  • #553
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    quadrifoglio verde wrote: »
    last few days:eek:....last few minutes before the exam:cool:
    90% of learning in Pharmacy takes place during the 48 hours before the exam.


  • #554
    [Deleted User]
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    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    90% of learning in Pharmacy takes place during the 48 hours before the exam.

    12


  • #555
    Smc30
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭Smc30


    Ha ha ok thanks. You've both eased my mind a bit:)
    I just feel as though I should make use of the time I have to try and get ahead or at least to the same standard as everyone else going into the course.


  • #556
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Smc30 wrote: »
    Ha ha ok thanks. You've both eased my mind a bit:)
    I just feel as though I should make use of the time I have to try and get ahead or at least to the same standard as everyone else going into the course.
    Everyone starts off in the same boat. Overwhelmed, confused and bewildered. Then you go foolishly buy or look at the textbooks they recommend and get even more worried.

    There's really no point in doing much work before you start the course. You'll have more than enough to do when you start.


  • #557
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Why on earth does a pharmacist need to know that guinea pigs can suffer from malocclusion (a dental disorder...)? The chances of any one of us ever dispensing a drug for an animal of any kind is low (least of all a guinea pig).

    I can almost guarantee that no pharmacist will ever have to deal with someone coming in with their guinea pig to ask them to have a look at its teeth. Malocclusion is a job for a vet or "veterinary dentist" or whoever is supposed to deal with animal dental problems. I don't even think there's any drug therapy for it so what it's doing on the course is beyond me.

    If you're going to ask an MCQ like "True or False: Guinea pigs can suffer from malocclusion", the least that could be done would be to mention that somewhere in the slides rather than just mentioning rabbits and assuming people could somehow know it also applied to guinea pigs.

    Not even that big of a deal, a small question in a fairly small module and it's not worth anything overall but ridiculous all the same.


  • #558
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    "A potential side effect of steroids is impaired ability to fall asleep."

    Never has a truer word been said :(


  • #559
    quadrifoglio verde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    "A potential side effect of steroids is impaired ability to fall asleep."

    Never has a truer word been said :(

    Haha I was getting my wine glass topped up with wine while talking to sasse tonight and all. As I told you previously a side effect of steroids is man boobs. :pac:

    FAO dupsa next year. Find out where Healy got the wine for the 4th year reception tonight. Was amazing.
    Also blutenderabe hope you're keeping well. :cool:


  • #560
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    quadrifoglio verde wrote: »
    Haha I was getting my wine glass topped up with wine while talking to sasse tonight and all. As I told you previously a side effect of steroids is man boobs. :pac:

    FAO dupsa next year. Find out where Healy got the wine for the 4th year reception tonight. Was amazing.
    Also blutenderabe hope you're keeping well. :cool:
    I'll keep that in mind for tomorrow.

    I wish Gilmer (and to an extent, Quigley) taught this whole module. Easily the best parts of the module. You understand it once, you know it for life. The rest need to be refreshed again and again and again.

    I need an IV drip of caffeine or something. I've been at this for 18 hours straight (not to mention all day yesterday) and these tiny little details and stupid little finicky (and by right, useless to memorise) reactions have not stuck for the past 8 weeks and still will not stick no matter what I try.

    sleep+is+for+the+weak.jpg


  • #561
    quadrifoglio verde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    The whole module is useless to clinical pharmacy in fairness. Meegan's stuff is nice though. Know some stuff on penicillins and happy days.


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  • #562
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    "nice"... Meegan's PH3002? More like horrifying and twice the size of the rest of the course.

    That must've been seriously strong wine :pac:


  • #563
    quadrifoglio verde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    "nice"... Meegan's PH3002? More like horrifying and twice the size of the rest of the course.

    That must've been seriously strong wine :pac:

    It was drinkable compared to what dupsa always gave :pac:

    Nice enough as in that it wasn't difficult. It was penicillins. How worse can it be. It's going to bE something along how does Penicillins work.


  • #564
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Anything along the lines of penicillins and not the the two other massive topics she also teaches i.e. cephalosporins or cholinergics and it'll be reasonable. None of her material is hard, it never is. It's just the fact there are so many reactions and structures that she expects you to know for each.


    Clocked 2h50m of sleep, what a lie in.


  • #565
    Santigo12
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Santigo12


    I am going to do some study over the summer - just a few minutes a day or two, nothing serious. I was curious if anyone has some tips on preparing for schols.

    Are the exams based on just the slide notes from the professors or do you have to do some of your own reading?

    Also would anyone mind sending me a few of the JS year slides. Just to get an idea, I'd really appreciate it.


  • #566
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Santigo12 wrote: »
    I am going to do some study over the summer - just a few minutes a day or two, nothing serious. I was curious if anyone has some tips on preparing for schols.
    It's really unnecessary and (imo anyway) will do more harm than good. It's a long way off from January 2015 and you'll be tired, worn out and disillusioned if you've been at it for nearly half a year! The best way to prepare for schols is to take summer off and hit the ground running in October (Or Nov/Dec like some people.... :p )
    Are the exams based on just the slide notes from the professors or do you have to do some of your own reading?
    Paper 1 and Paper 2 are based on some of the modules in second year. Roughly Paper 1 chemistry, analysis and pharmacognosy, paper 2 is ceutics, practice and pharmacology.

    Paper 3 is based on research papers you're given and asked to read in late October.

    You do need to do a bit of extra reading to get over 70 but not a huge amount.
    Also would anyone mind sending me a few of the JS year slides. Just to get an idea, I'd really appreciate it.
    Probably not a good idea. They're liable to change and you've all of second year to deal with first!


  • #567
    Santigo12
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Santigo12


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    It's really unnecessary and (imo anyway) will do more harm than good. It's a long way off from January 2015 and you'll be tired, worn out and disillusioned if you've been at it for nearly half a year! The best way to prepare for schols is to take summer off and hit the ground running in October (Or Nov/Dec like some people.... :p )

    Thanks. Ye, I agree with what you are saying and by studying over the summer, I really meant that I would only be doing a few minutes when I feel particularly enthusiastic or motivated to do something. But then again you would forget it all by September :)
    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    Paper 3 is based on research papers you're given and asked to read in late October.QUOTE]

    What are these research papers like?


  • #568
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    What are these research papers like?

    Differs each year. There's pharm chem, pharmaceutical technology (ceutics), pharmacology, practice of pharmacy and pharmacognosy. It's one of the nicer parts of the exam I reckon. Refreshing change from looking at lectures.

    They differ from year to year so it's impossible to say much more about them.


  • #569
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Well that was a surprise.


  • #570
    BlutendeRabe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭BlutendeRabe


    How so?


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  • #571
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Results were out a few days early for 1st-3rd year. Was a bit of a shock seeing the email from Sasse telling us to check the site!


  • #572
    katie44
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭katie44


    Hi there,

    Interested in doing Pharmacy this year, was just wondering if 565*/565 points for TCD/UCC based on first round offers or did these points drop for the 2nd round, does anyone have any idea?. Thanks!


  • #573
    Sheep95
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Sheep95


    Just after accepting my place! Any advice anyone? And do you think accommodation is nesessary? I live in naas in Kildare


  • #574
    quadrifoglio verde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    Sheep95 wrote: »
    Just after accepting my place! Any advice anyone? And do you think accommodation is nesessary? I live in naas in Kildare

    First of all congratulations, 4 years of hard work are ahead of you (I'm serious).
    With that in mind, go on to budget travel and see if they've any cheap last minute deals and book yourself a holiday. You'll be greatful of it in November.
    Don't be scared ****less in your first quigley lecture, thinking you know nothing.....no one understands it!!!

    I commuted from celbridge everyday, a lad in my year from naas moved out. It's commutable, your in Heuston within half an hour on the train, then a quick bus ride up the quays (about 10 mins on the 145). My brother on the other hand moved out to go to pats last year....needless to say he's moving back for second year.

    It all depends on your financial situation, rents in dublin are a lot higher now than they were in 2010 and also how much you value having a home cooked meal every night! :p
    While I was jealous of friends living in town, they were jealous of me getting a proper dinner etc when I went home each night.

    Going out wise it may hamper you for the first few weeks, but after that, you're fine. The course is so close knit, which Is understandable as you're in lectures with the same group each day. If you wanted to go out, there was always a chair for you to crash on.


  • #575
    Sheep95
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Sheep95


    Thanks for the reply! I'd be able to afford the accommodation, all my family is on to me to stay. Haha and I cooked most of our meals so it won't be any different! Is it hard to get a job in town? For weekend work?
    I'm dying to get started, no idea when it starts though, any ideas?


  • #576
    quadrifoglio verde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    Jobs are there if you look for them, however, with the intensity of the course, you may not want to look for one!
    With regards to when it starts, week 5 is the first week of lectures so that'll be the 22nd I'm guessing with dredgers week the week before


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  • #577
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    Sheep95 wrote: »
    Just after accepting my place! Any advice anyone? And do you think accommodation is nesessary? I live in naas in Kildare
    Sheep95 wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply! I'd be able to afford the accommodation, all my family is on to me to stay. Haha and I cooked most of our meals so it won't be any different! Is it hard to get a job in town? For weekend work?
    I'm dying to get started, no idea when it starts though, any ideas?

    Pretty sure it'll be 22nd for 1st day of lectures as we started on the 23rd last year. Fresher's Week will be the week before and it'll be so much fun. Enjoy it because a 9am start every day will get tiring!

    Regarding advice;
    1. Go to physiology lectures!
    2. Biochemistry makes no sense to anyone so don't freak out.
    3. Biology is the most pointless module ever but easy to do well in.
    4. Quigley is your new best friend.


  • #578
    Sheep95
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Sheep95


    Cheers for the replies! Haha I was reading through the old posts where you all started and it seems tough, and this quigley guy? Can't wait to see him in action! Anyone else starting too?


  • #579
    [Deleted User]
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    Sheep95 wrote: »
    Cheers for the replies! Haha I was reading through the old posts where you all started and it seems tough, and this quigley guy? Can't wait to see him in action! Anyone else starting too?

    Well I just finished 1st year (JF) so if you need any help I'll have notes to send on :D I didn't find it as tough as I thought I would to be fair but I would have found it a lot easier if I didn't wait to study until the last 3 weeks of term :P
    Quigley is my favourite person :D


  • #580
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    My two years worth of sage advice on this thread :p

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80424065&postcount=74 - for the academic side of things.

    For everything else
    1. Write off April/May for the next four years. You'll only really understand why in April... hopefully early April
    2. Don't buy any of the books you're recommended and please don't bring books to lectures, it's not like school.
    3. Don't buy a dissecting kit (unless you want a spare scissors, scalpel and selection of tweezers for some reason)
    4. Fresher's week is great craic, try and get on campus every day and join a few societies. Whatever you do, make sure you join DUPSA and get in on all the pharmacy events like the wine receptions, the pharmacy ball, the mystery tour etc. IPSA's the national pharmacy soc and they hold bigger events for all the three pharmacy schools, even better.
    5. Don't get too worried if you feel completely lost near the start (especially your very first lecture if Quigley hasn't changed it). It'll all start to come together near the end of the second term.
    6. Did I mention go to all the pharmacy events and enjoy yourself?


  • #581
    quadrifoglio verde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    My two years worth of sage advice on this thread :p

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80424065&postcount=74 - for the academic side of things.

    For everything else

    Point 6 is the most relevant of that....you pay 5 euro and get unlimited wine:pac:


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  • #582
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    quadrifoglio verde wrote: »
    Point 6 is the most relevant of that....you pay 5 euro and get unlimited wine:pac:
    But sadly, no cups for said wine unless you're there in the first few minutes. If you don't mind swigging from a bottle however... you're grand. :p


  • #583
    Sheep95
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Sheep95


    All this waiting around before I can meet my classmates is annoying so snyways, I'm Karl :)


  • #584
    Sheep95
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Sheep95


    Thanks everyone for the replies and help, I hate this waiting around!


  • #585
    Throwaway25
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Throwaway25


    Hey guys, starting in September. Just wondering, do many people do the optional first aid course and what's that like?


  • #586
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Throwaway25 wrote: »
    Hey guys, starting in September. Just wondering, do many people do the optional first aid course and what's that like?
    Haven't heard of anyone who did it personally. I think it's part of the MPharm year anyway so you'll do it eventually.


  • #587
    quadrifoglio verde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    Haven't heard of anyone who did it personally. I think it's part of the MPharm year anyway so you'll do it eventually.

    It is, but I wish I'd done it.


  • #588
    Throwaway25
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Throwaway25


    quadrifoglio verde wrote: »
    It is, but I wish I'd done it.

    Why's that?


  • #589
    BlutendeRabe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭BlutendeRabe


    Throwaway25 wrote: »
    Hey guys, starting in September. Just wondering, do many people do the optional first aid course and what's that like?

    Around a fifth did it in my year (including myself). Its piss easy - just takes up around 2 hours of your time every Wednesday. Depending on your examiner, you'll be fed your answers (probably changed though).


  • #590
    Jessica95
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Jessica95


    Does anyone know when we can register online on my.tcd?


  • #591
    BlutendeRabe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭BlutendeRabe


    The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved (well yet anyway).


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  • #592
    Farrem18
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Farrem18


    I'm starting the course in a few weeks too! :) i was excited until i started reading this thread haha


  • #593
    Throwaway25
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Throwaway25


    For the pre-reg requirements, does anybody know what "Modules Selected" is about? I didn't think we had a choice?


  • #594
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    We don't.

    The only choices i'm aware of are electing to take a broad curriculum module instead of PH2007 in second year (which is a pretty bad idea) and an elective in fourth year in PH4007 where you choose between Hospital, Community and Industrial pharmacy for your elective.


  • #595
    Farrem18
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Farrem18


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    We don't.

    The only choices i'm aware of are electing to take a broad curriculum module instead of PH2007 in second year (which is a pretty bad idea) and an elective in fourth year in PH4007 where you choose between Hospital, Community and Industrial pharmacy for your elective.

    If you choose community pharmacy for your elective in fourth year, are you able to work in a hospital or industry or are you only qualified to work in community? After the internship like..


  • #596
    quadrifoglio verde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭quadrifoglio verde


    Farrem18 wrote: »
    If you choose community pharmacy for your elective in fourth year, are you able to work in a hospital or industry or are you only qualified to work in community? After the internship like..

    Chose community and it's harder to get into hospital (that's for the internship). Chose hospital and it's hard but not as hard to get into hospital afterwards (someone has to die or retire)
    Chose industry and it's hard to get into hospital.
    ie hospital is hard to get into. Just because you do industry doesn't mean you'll get a job in industry straight away. It requires a bit of upskilling.
    All doing your prereg in hospital or industry gives you is a foot in the door.
    You can do community and still go on to work in hospital or industry. It's not like you become qualified as a industry pharmacist having done your intern in industry.


  • #597
    Farrem18
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Farrem18


    quadrifoglio verde wrote: »
    Chose community and it's harder to get into hospital (that's for the internship). Chose hospital and it's hard but not as hard to get into hospital afterwards (someone has to die or retire)
    Chose industry and it's hard to get into hospital.
    ie hospital is hard to get into. Just because you do industry doesn't mean you'll get a job in industry straight away. It requires a bit of upskilling.
    All doing your prereg in hospital or industry gives you is a foot in the door.
    You can do community and still go on to work in hospital or industry. It's not like you become qualified as a industry pharmacist having done your intern in industry.

    So if i was torn between being a community pharmacist and hospital pharmacist, which would you recommend doing my electives and internship in?


  • #598
    BlutendeRabe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭BlutendeRabe


    Farrem18 wrote: »
    So if i was torn between being a community pharmacist and hospital pharmacist, which would you recommend doing my electives and internship in?

    The elective is, as Dr Henman says, just to give you a taste of whats its like. Its not a prerequisite for entering a specific area of pharmacy. One girl I know, did the industry elective solely because the exam question was easier to answer. If you want to go into Hospital you need to get a work placement in the summer after 3rd year.

    Do not worry about it at this stage. You've to get to grips with 1st year and survive Dr Totenkopf.


  • #599
    Throwaway25
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Throwaway25


    I have Dr. John Walsh as a Tutor. Any opinions on what he's like?


  • #600
    [Deleted User]
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    Throwaway25 wrote: »
    I have Dr. John Walsh as a Tutor. Any opinions on what he's like?

    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


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  • #601
    Throwaway25
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Throwaway25


    Deleted User wrote: »
    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    Hmmm, not sure how I should interpret this...


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