United Ireland Poll

snyper wrote: »

If it were up to a vote, would you wish to see a 32 county, taking in to account the consequences of the result within the Unionist community if it were granted

Mine is a no vote. I think with the way things are going now in europe we all will be one european nation..

you raise some interesting issues , primarily the fact that Britian has done everything in its power to esnure it isnt put to a vote ,as well as ignoring and physically suppressing the election results the last time we voted as a single nation. You also seem to be hinting that unionism will declare war unilaterally on the rest of the island . a frequent bluster from a bully but not a real possibility at all . Certainly not one any democrat should ever give in to .
Secondly you focus upon what the effect of an end to this British denial of democracy on a national basis will be on the pro British community within the occupied territory , ignoring the fact there is a substantial pro nation community in the 6 counties and an even larger one in the 26 counties . No consideration of what their reaction will be to a continued denial of national democracy as it slowly dawns upon them theyve been had and no united Ireland is likely to emege from the current process . What if they demand the vote you ask us to imagine ? What will the repercussions of that be ? Because that is the future . What will the be the consequences of Britian countinuing to deny and suppress national democracy in Ireland ?
The effects of not being insulated from democracy any more on the unionist community may be hard to gauge , but I would expect them to behave like reasonable people and accept democracy . Or do they have some sort of immunity certificate that permits murder in the event of national democracy ? Regardless it will be the British intelligence services and military as always which dictates what the physical reaction of unionism will be to any given issue .

rb_ie wrote: »

Why should we do that? They're part of the UK, like it or not and they are a burden to the UK. Let it remain that way and let the UK look after it. Why should we take on such a burden?

Beacuse its part of your national territory , all of which was once part of the uk and civilised dignified people generally seek to defend their national territory as opposed to pretending it isnt there or giving it away . Its taken as a measure of their persoanl and national dignity . Britian has had to pump so much money into it to prop up an artificial state wracked by internal insurgency and the continuin threat of which , that it divided from the rest of the island by force . That division made the place a basket case , not its existence on the first place . A logical person would not confuse cause with effect .

Krieg wrote: »

Ok
I accept many points made by the "Yes" campaign

But the north is too far gone at this stage. Say the OP's vote went ahead and it came to a "Yes". The troubles would almost definitly errupt again, wasting all the peace talks and progression that has been achieved over the last- god knows how many years. I don't believe that loss of life can justify the idea of a united Ireland, I know many would disagree

why would trouble erupt ? are you suggesting that yet again Britian would refuse to recognise the vote of the Irish people ?

All the peacetalks and progression you speak of have been acheived by convincing the nationalist population both sides of the border that a united Ireland can be achieved under the current structures. Surely when they realise that is nit the case we have a recipe for future conflict ? A certainty of it .
Isnt it much better to solve it then through democracy rather than continue with a denial of it ? Surely thats a recipe for trouble .