Kerry GAA Discussion Thread Mod Warning Post #4167

homerjay2005 · 10-01-2016 9:25pm

Paul galvin gone into retirement, but Looks like everybody else is back for the year!

Here we go again, can't believe we are already starting a new season again.

Kerrydude1981 · 12-01-2016 5:51pm

There is a possibility Ballyduff may not compete in the County Senior Football League this coming season.

Ballyduff won just one of 10 games in Division 5 in 2015, giving 3 walkovers in the process.

Player availability is an issue but no decision has been made yet.

http://www.radiokerry.ie/sport/possibility-of-team-withdrawing-from-county-senior-football-league/

Would be sad to see this happening to Ballyduff.

homerjay2005 · 13-01-2016 3:48pm

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

There is a possibility Ballyduff may not compete in the County Senior Football League this coming season.

Ballyduff won just one of 10 games in Division 5 in 2015, giving 3 walkovers in the process.

Player availability is an issue but no decision has been made yet.

http://www.radiokerry.ie/sport/possibility-of-team-withdrawing-from-county-senior-football-league/

Would be sad to see this happening to Ballyduff.

how have they been in terms of fielding teams in the hurling?

Kerrydude1981 · 13-01-2016 7:27pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

how have they been in terms of fielding teams in the hurling?

Senior's were fine,made the championship semi final last year

U21's and minors joined up with Causeway

Kerrydude1981 · 15-01-2016 10:15pm

he Kerry team to play Tipperary in Round 2 of the McGrath Cup in Tipperary Town on Sunday at 2pm is a much changed side from that which did duty on Sunday last againstClare. Eleven of the match day squad for last year’s All Ireland Final are in the panel, nine of those start.

Four of last weeks starting fifteen retain their place.
The team, captained by Renard’s Killian Young is as follows:

1 Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
2 Briain O Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht
3 Mark Griffin St Michaels-Foilmore
4 Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes
5 Paul Murphy Rathmore
6 Killian Young (Captain) Reenard
7 Padraig O'Connor Killarney Legion
8 David Moran Kerins O'Rahillys
9 Tommy Walsh Kerins O'Rahillys
10 Philip O'Connor Cordal
11 Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes
12 Jamie O'Sullivan Killarney Legion
13 Barry John Keane Kerins O'Rahillys
14 Alan Fitzgerald Castlegregory
15 Stephen O'Brien Kenmare

Fir Ionaid:
16 Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17 Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
18 Tom O'Sullivan Dingle
19 Paul O'Sullivan Valentia
20 Wayne Guthrie Austin Stacks
21 Conor Cox Listowel Emmets

Bainistíocht
Bainisteóir: Eamonn Fitzmaurice (Finuge)
Róghnóirí:
Diarmuid Murphy (Dingle),
Mikey Sheehy (Austin Stacks),
Padraig Corcoran (Dingle),
Liam Hassett (Laune Rangers)

ciarriaithuaidh · 16-01-2016 1:31am

Good to see a decent team back on the field after last week's selection which demeaned the Kerry jersey slightly IMO.

Good to see Cox back on the squad. He deserves a run during the league.

homerjay2005 · 16-01-2016 5:02pm

i thought we were out of the Mcgrath cup now that we had lost the first round, this must be a new thing!

how does it work if we win tomorrow?

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Good to see a decent team back on the field after last week's selection which demeaned the Kerry jersey slightly IMO.

Good to see Cox back on the squad. He deserves a run during the league.

forward line is poor, lets be fair.

you'd hope theres 3 or 4 lads brought into that for the Dubs game, theres about 10 big names missing off that panel and you'd want a good share of them back for the trip to croke park in two weeks time.

windy shepard henderson · 16-01-2016 6:07pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i thought we were out of the Mcgrath cup now that we had lost the first round, this must be a new thing!

how does it work if we win tomorrow?

forward line is poor, lets be fair.

you'd hope theres 3 or 4 lads brought into that for the Dubs game, theres about 10 big names missing off that panel and you'd want a good share of them back for the trip to croke park in two weeks time.

as far as i know its clare and cork next Friday night in mallow in the final , i assume the game this weekend is the final game in the group just to fulfill the fixture

Boom__Boom · 16-01-2016 6:55pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i thought we were out of the Mcgrath cup now that we had lost the first round, this must be a new thing!

how does it work if we win tomorrow?

forward line is poor, lets be fair.

you'd hope theres 3 or 4 lads brought into that for the Dubs game, theres about 10 big names missing off that panel and you'd want a good share of them back for the trip to croke park in two weeks time.

This year it was 2 groups of 3 with the county who topped the group getting into the final. Kerry Tipp and Clare in one group Waterford, Limerick and Cork in the other. Clare beat Tipp the weekend before and after beating Kerry that meant they were into the final.

The last group game against Tipp is this weekend but neither side can do better than Clare's 4 points total.

ciarriaithuaidh · 16-01-2016 7:24pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i thought we were out of the Mcgrath cup now that we had lost the first round, this must be a new thing!

how does it work if we win tomorrow?

forward line is poor, lets be fair.

you'd hope theres 3 or 4 lads brought into that for the Dubs game, theres about 10 big names missing off that panel and you'd want a good share of them back for the trip to croke park in two weeks time.

It's not that bad a forward line. 3 players who I would consider starting level for championship. Buckley, O'Brien, Keane. Alan Fitz and Philip O'Connor are decent Junior level players. Pity O'Connor is so light as he has oodles of skill. Jamie O'Sullivan getting run based on County championship, but don't see him making senior panel. Cox to come in and he has already played several league games at Senior level aswell as shining at Sigerson level. I've seen way worse forward lines named. The Dublin league game in Killarney of 2013 comes to mind.

In terms of players coming back in, Geaney, Jameso, Enright, Crowley, Gooch, Maher all out injured or due operations at the moment as far as I'm aware. Bryan Sheehan surely due a break. Don't want him burned out too early. Given all that you're looking at an unfamiliar lineup for Dublin game but the likes of Podge O'Connor, Cox, Brian Begley, David Culhane would be due a run anyway IMO. Paul O'Sullivan performed well in the county championship also so may get a go.

Boom__Boom · 16-01-2016 8:54pm

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

It's not that bad a forward line. 3 players who I would consider starting level for championship. Buckley, O'Brien, Keane. Alan Fitz and Philip O'Connor are decent Junior level players. Pity O'Connor is so light as he has oodles of skill. Jamie O'Sullivan getting run based on County championship, but don't see him making senior panel. Cox to come in and he has already played several league games at Senior level aswell as shining at Sigerson level. I've seen way worse forward lines named. The Dublin league game in Killarney of 2013 comes to mind.

Both Phillip O'Connor and Alan Fitz got a couple of sub appearances in the league last year. Almost impossible to see Phillip O'Connor making an impact unless he has bulked up quite a bit since then - he was way too light and it was very apparent in the Mayo game where he was shown up to be completely physically overmatched. Mobility to be a bit issue for Jamie O'Sullivan Really can't see him being an serious option when the pitches firm up. In terms of options I wouldn't exactly die of surprise if Tommy Walsh spent some time in the forwards at some stage - might see him moving them against Tipp depending on how subs/injuries/fitness/the match itself is going.

Cooper should be back in contention for the the Dublin game. Will be March for any of the rest who had surgery.

wonga77 · 17-01-2016 1:10pm

I presume Sheehan wont be back until the Marys are out of the intermediate championship?

keane2097 · 17-01-2016 9:36pm

Anyone there today? DDC?

DDC1990 · 17-01-2016 11:27pm

keane2097 wrote:

Anyone there today? DDC?

Afraid not. Holed up in Dublin. Wont see the team in the flesh till the 31st

ProudDUB · 17-01-2016 11:33pm

DDC1990 wrote: »

Afraid not. Holed up in Dublin. Wont see the team in the flesh till the 31st

There has to be a Ger Loughnane joke in there somewhere.

Prop Joe · 18-01-2016 2:51pm

keane2097 wrote: »

Anyone there today? DDC?

Brendan Kealy - Played 35 mins his kickouts were far superior to Kelly's
Briain O Beaglaoich - Steady performance
Mark Griffin - Played very well cut out everything that came his way
Fionn Fitzgerald - Got on alot of ball and played well
Paul Murphy - decent performance
Killian Young - showed great leadership,held tight a well marshalled defence
Padraig O'Connor - Was very bright,showed great leadership going forward
David Moran - Did the usual
Tommy Walsh - sketchy enough at times,just looked rusty
Philip O'Connor - Man of the match,constantly in possession and scored 2 pts
Johnny Buckley - excellent first half and was subbed early in 2nd
Jamie O'Sullivan - Got through the game without doing anything noteworthy
Barry John Keane - Struggles in these conditions but did OK
Alan Fitzgerald - His 1st point was a beauty,played well,our top scorer from play
Stephen O'Brien - Worked hard but needs to score more,Kicking can be erratic

Subs were introduced as the spark went out of the game,Would be difficult to judge them although Paul O Sullivan looked very comfortable

Brian Kelly
Jonathan Lyne
Tom O'Sullivan
Paul O'Sullivan
Wayne Guthrie
Conor Cox

DDC1990 · 18-01-2016 8:59pm

Prop Joe wrote: »

Philip O'Connor - Man of the match,constantly in possession and scored 2 pts

Is he any bigger than last year.

I remember him coming on against Mayo in the league last year, and his legs were so thin.

EDIT: For those that think i'm picking on him, here is a picture from a Junior game last year, to show what I mean.

Boom__Boom · 19-01-2016 5:27pm

DDC1990 wrote: »

Is he any bigger than last year.

I remember him coming on against Mayo in the league last year, and his legs were so thin.

EDIT: For those that think i'm picking on him, here is a picture from a Junior game last year, to show what I mean.

No I think this is a totally legitimate concern. He seems to have the football any time I've seen him but just physically he wasn't up to intercounty last year - he got absolutely thrown out of it a couple of times in the Mayo league game last year.

A meaningless McGrath cup game against Tipp is one thing but any sort of top team would surely target him as a weakness.

I don't think size is the issue more core strength - Paul Murphy is no size at all but he has got wirey core strength. He's never going to be a colossus,but if he could increase his strength he could be an option.

wonga77 · 21-01-2016 12:27am

Am I bonkers or is that Mattie Forde in the photo?

Boom__Boom · 21-01-2016 11:12am

wonga77 wrote: »

Am I bonkers or is that Mattie Forde in the photo?

No it is him - he came on in the Junior semi-final where the Kerry Juniors played the Wexford last year.

DDC1990 · 28-01-2016 9:53pm

The team, captained by Killian Young is as follows:
1. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
2. Brian Ó Beaglaoich A Ghaeltacht
3. Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore
4. Shane Enright Tarbert
5. Paul Murphy Rathmore
6. Killian Young (C) Renard
7. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes
8. David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys
9. Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes
10. Stephen O’Brien Kenmare
11. Darran O’Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar
12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane
13. Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys
14. Tommy Walsh Kerins O’Rahillys
15. Philip O’Connor Cordal
Fir Ionaid:
16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
18. Padraig O’Connor Killarney Legion
19. Pa Kilkenny Glenbeigh/Glencar
20. Brendan O’Sullivan Valentia
21. Jamie O’Sullivan Killarney Legion
22. Gavin O’Grady Glenbeigh-Glencar
23. Paul O’Sullivan Valentia
24. Marcus Mangan Milltown-Castlemaine
25. Tom O’Sullivan Dingle
26. Conor Cox Listowel Emmets

As weak a Kerry bench as I can remember in a long time. Happy enough with the starting 15 though.

Could be a long night though.

Edit: Fixed the weird symbols

An Ciarraioch · 28-01-2016 9:59pm

DDC1990 wrote: »

The team, captained by Killian Young is as follows:Ã‚Â
1. Brendan Kealy KilcumminÃ‚Â
2. Brian Ã႒â€œ Beaglaoich A Ghaeltacht
3. Mark Griffin St Michaels/FoilmoreÃ‚Â
4. Shane Enright Tarbert
5. Paul Murphy RathmoreÃ‚Â
6. Killian Young (C) Renard
7. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr CrokesÃ‚Â
8. David Moran Kerins OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Rahillys
9. Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes
10. Stephen OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Brien Kenmare
11. Darran OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Sullivan Glenbeigh-Glencar
12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane
13. Barry John Keane Kerins OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Rahillys
14. Tommy Walsh Kerins OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Rahillys
15. Philip OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Connor Cordal
Fir Ionaid:Ã‚Â
16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
18. Padraig OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Connor Killarney Legion
19. Pa Kilkenny Glenbeigh/GlencarÃ‚Â
20. Brendan OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Sullivan Valentia
21. Jamie OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Sullivan Killarney Legion
22. Gavin OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Grady Glenbeigh-Glencar
23. Paul OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Sullivan Valentia
24. Marcus Mangan Milltown-Castlemaine
25. Tom OÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Sullivan Dingle
26. Conor Cox Listowel Emmets

As weak a Kerry bench as I can remember in a long time. Happy enough with the starting 15 though.

Could be a long night though.

Edit: Don't know whats up with the fada's. Copied it from the Kerry website where it looks grand, but im on the phone.

As you say, the first fifteen is pretty much Championship standard, so even if the bench is threadbare, they should be competitive for the first 50 minutes, at any rate.

DDC1990 · 28-01-2016 10:24pm

Dublin -2.0 at Evens looks like a decent bet, though we do manage to play well in these Croke Park games in the league.

Boom__Boom · 28-01-2016 10:25pm

DDC1990 wrote: »

Fir Ionaid:
16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17. Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion
18. Padraig O’Connor Killarney Legion
19. Pa Kilkenny Glenbeigh/Glencar
20. Brendan O’Sullivan Valentia
21. Jamie O’Sullivan Killarney Legion
22. Gavin O’Grady Glenbeigh-Glencar
23. Paul O’Sullivan Valentia
24. Marcus Mangan Milltown-Castlemaine
25. Tom O’Sullivan Dingle
26. Conor Cox Listowel Emmets

As weak a Kerry bench as I can remember in a long time. Happy enough with the starting 15 though.

Could be a long night though.

Edit: Fixed the weird symbols

Yeah - really need to avoid any early black cards or injuries in the first half.

By my count 6 of the lads on the bench have never played a minute of league football before

Darran O'Sullivan Glenbeigh
Brendan O’Sullivan Valentia
Jamie O’Sullivan Killarney Legion
Paul O’Sullivan Valentia
Tom O’Sullivan Dingle

#just the five O'Sullivans

keane2097 · 28-01-2016 10:27pm

DDC1990 wrote: »

Dublin -2.0 at Evens looks like a decent bet, though we do manage to play well in these Croke Park games in the league.

**** it anyway it was 2.1 before the team was named. I thought it would stay as it was with the first 15 named.

DDC1990 · 30-01-2016 12:00pm

keane2097 wrote:

**** it anyway it was 2.1 before the team was named. I thought it would stay as it was with the first 15 named.

Strong Dublin team named. Handicap is at -3.0. I haven't been this pessimistic about a Kerry teams chances in a long time.

Kerrydude1981 · 30-01-2016 8:52pm

Lively first half,both teams missed some great chances

Our lads seemed to come more into it as the first half went on,

I hope we drop back the extra man in the second half,give the full back line some protection

Philip O Connor gets his hands on the ball a lot,keeps it simple when he gets it.

wonga77 · 30-01-2016 10:45pm

Our full back line was very exposed tonight, thought Beaglaoich could have done with a bit more help in the first half, Griffin looked all at sea a few times. Other then that a good enough run out against a strong Dublin side, albeit one in third gear. Tommy Walsh is a strong man, he needed a bit more help as he was surrounded by 3 men every time he came down with the ball

beertons · 30-01-2016 10:53pm

So, did yee win?

ixus · 30-01-2016 11:17pm

I'd like to see Donaghy & T.Walsh together for a period. Felt they should have tried this at the end of final last year. Dublin are prepared for the one big man having handled O'Shea and Donaghy last year.

Twin Towers who can score would ask an altogether different question, especially with Gooch sniffing around or delivering. May not provide a goal but it pins back Dub defenders.

It possibly commits 4 Dub defenders to 2 attackers. This leaves space outside for attackers who are well capable of scoring and also potentially reduces Dub overlaps on attack with either 1 less Dub or 1 more Kerry player involved in the middle of pitch on a turnover.

Has tactic been tried at all, in training even?

wonga77 · 31-01-2016 12:29am

I thought that too watching the game, in fairness TW did well considering he was completely outnumbered every time he came to ground, Id say a few of the Dubs were happy enough to see him taken off. Put him and Donaghy inside and JOD and Geaney to feed off them would be almost impossible to mark. That is provided the ball going in is decent, there were a few wayward attempts tonight. Early days yet anyway, im sure Fitzmaurice doesnt want to reveal too much too early

Stoner · 31-01-2016 1:29am

wonga77 wrote:

Id say a few of the Dubs were happy enough to see him taken off.

He was used far more in the first half, thought he was quiet enough for a significant amount of time before he was substituted imo.

His score at the start of the second half was very good, and interesting enough it was one he chased into the corner a bit.

DDC1990 · 31-01-2016 10:56am

New year same problems.

Exposed through the middle. No CHB for most of the game. Have no idea what position Killian was meant to be playing.
Mark Griffin is great with the play in front of him, but he turns like a ship and finds himself chasing his man towards goal far too often.

Positives were Brian O'Beaglaoich, Kealy and the crossbar.

On a side note, I hope Paddy Andrews and his goading of Kealy after full time comes back to bite him on the arse. Totally classless, and rediculous given it's January.

Our forwards were a shambles. SOB and DOS were very poor, though Darran did kick 3 points, his movement in the second half was shocking.

TW and BJK did about as good as you can expect with the disgraceful service they were provided with against an extra man.

Dubs fitter, faster, cleverer and stronger. More football in them as well. Only for Kealy, Moran and the crossbar we'd have lost by 20. Significant gap to close before September. Lots to work on for the lads.

Edit: Forgot to mention Paul Murphy. Great game. Kept Connolly to a goal from a penalty and a few runs to nothing. Shadowed him all game and played a good portion with a yellow card.

Anyone spot Donnacha Walsh's black card. I was expecting a Kerry free kick, as it looked on first viewing that the Dublin player came across him, but obviously it was the other way around. Right in front of the linesman and the referee was fair enough all game so I presume it was a good call.

Stoner · 31-01-2016 12:12pm

DDC1990 wrote:

Anyone spot Donnacha Walsh's black card. I was expecting a Kerry free kick, as it looked on first viewing that the Dublin player came across him, but obviously it was the other way around. Right in front of the linesman and the referee was fair enough all game so I presume it was a good call.

I was in front of it, as was the linesman. It was harsh, imo Dublin player was fairly wobbly by time he'd reached the ball as he'd been half fouled just before it, didn't think it was a black card.

I thought Young was very standoffish last night alright, as one stage he contested a ball with Brady and was completely sidestepped he made little effort to tackle, Brady is not the nippiest, most likely an early season or fitness issue? not up to his usual standard anyway

I think Andrew's and Kealy were at it for the game , Kealy made a great save from Andrew's in the first half

corny · 31-01-2016 12:25pm

DDC1990 wrote: »

Anyone spot Donnacha Walsh's black card. I was expecting a Kerry free kick, as it looked on first viewing that the Dublin player came across him, but obviously it was the other way around. Right in front of the linesman and the referee was fair enough all game so I presume it was a good call.

I thought the exact same as yourself at the match, thought it was harsh, but watched it back and the ref was right. He pulled him down. Needlessly too.

I think at the heart of the problem for Kerry at the back is no one seems physically able to stop attackers breaking the tackle. Andrews waltzed through at will all night by virtue of his upper body strength. He did the same to Fionn Fitzgerald in the final a few months ago. Has to be addressed.

DDC1990 · 31-01-2016 12:50pm

Yeah the ease at which Dublin attackers waltzed through the middle at will was infuriating.

If every ordinary Joe can see that Kerry are vulnerable through the middle then why is Fitzmaurice not looking to rectify it? The league is for trying systems out, but I saw nothing new last night.

A fast and physical presence is required at CHB in the mould of Cian O'Sullivan. But we clearly don't have that type of player.

Our forwards were shocking in terms of their movement, which leads to enormous amounts of pressure on our full back line due to the amount of attacks that we allowed Dublin.

BPKS · 31-01-2016 8:20pm

DDC1990 wrote: »

New year same problems.

Exposed through the middle. No CHB for most of the game. Have no idea what position Killian was meant to be playing.
Mark Griffin is great with the play in front of him, but he turns like a ship and finds himself chasing his man towards goal far too often.

Positives were Brian O'Beaglaoich, Kealy and the crossbar.

On a side note, I hope Paddy Andrews and his goading of Kealy after full time comes back to bite him on the arse. Totally classless, and rediculous given it's January.

Our forwards were a shambles. SOB and DOS were very poor, though Darran did kick 3 points, his movement in the second half was shocking.

TW and BJK did about as good as you can expect with the disgraceful service they were provided with against an extra man.

Dubs fitter, faster, cleverer and stronger. More football in them as well. Only for Kealy, Moran and the crossbar we'd have lost by 20. Significant gap to close before September. Lots to work on for the lads.

Edit: Forgot to mention Paul Murphy. Great game. Kept Connolly to a goal from a penalty and a few runs to nothing. Shadowed him all game and played a good portion with a yellow card.

Anyone spot Donnacha Walsh's black card. I was expecting a Kerry free kick, as it looked on first viewing that the Dublin player came across him, but obviously it was the other way around. Right in front of the linesman and the referee was fair enough all game so I presume it was a good call.

Watched it back on the telly and i thought they were just having a bit of a laugh with each other TBH.

Stoner · 31-01-2016 11:08pm

I saw the highlights of the game on TG4.

The very last clip is Andrews and Brian O Beaglaoich talking and shaking hands all good stuff, they both seemed respectful.

corny · 31-01-2016 11:55pm

I think it was the other way round. Andrews approached to shake hands (smiling) before Kealy said something that Andrews didn't like.

DDC1990 · 01-02-2016 5:04pm

corny wrote:

I think it was the other way round. Andrews approached to shake hands (smiling) before Kealy said something that Andrews didn't like.

Could well be this. Though what Andrews was saying while he was smiling night have set Kealy off as well. I've never seen Andrews or Kealy to be like this, which is why it shocked me. But from where I was Andrews appeared to goad him and was dragged away. Now maybe Kealy told him to **** off first, but it didnt look pretty from where I was.
Im sure this happens all the time and isn't seen but it seemed petty.

Hopefully it wasn't anything. But it annoyed me at the time.

duchalla · 03-02-2016 10:33pm

For anyone whose interested, the All Ireland junior and intermediate club finals, involving Templenoe and St. Mary's Caherciveen will be broadcasted live from Croke Park on Irish TV, sky channel 191 from 2:30 pm on Saturday.

Fr Tod Umptious · 03-02-2016 10:57pm

duchalla wrote: »

For anyone whose interested, the All Ireland junior and intermediate club finals, involving Templenoe and St. Mary's Caherciveen will be broadcasted live from Croke Park on Irish TV, sky channel 191 from 2:30 pm on Saturday.

Great news.

Two Kerry teams v two Mayo teams, and broadcast by a Mayo based TV station.

I hope they are as biased towards Mayo as Weeshie will be towards Kerry

Boom__Boom · 03-02-2016 11:00pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Great news.

Two Kerry teams v two Mayo teams, and broadcast by a Mayo based TV station.

I hope they are as biased towards Mayo as Weeshie will be towards Kerry

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