Battlefield 4 [aaaarrrghhh bitching and moaning]

ktulu123 · 25-11-2013 2:01pm

Sparks wrote: »

Oh poop, no more instant vehicle respawn (which sucks for real games but is damn handy for grind servers to unlock vehicles).

Delighted with this, I hate instant re spawn vehicles

Sparks · 25-11-2013 2:08pm

Yeah, I have the scout helo fully unlocked, but most of the rest of the vehicles, I'm not even close to yet (I just don't dig the vehicles as much as the infantry and aerial stuff). It's one of the things I don't like about this game - the infantry weapons are sufficiently well balanced that the ones you start out with, in their starting configuration with nothing unlocked, are not massively overpowered by the ones you unlock later, so you can compete from day one. In the vehicles though, that balance just isn't there - you go up in (say) a base level scout helo against another scout helo with all the unlocks (30mm cannon, heatseekers, ecm jammers, etc) and you're just toast even with equal skill levels. Because of that, the grind servers do meet a real need...

Sparks · 25-11-2013 2:09pm

ktulu123 wrote: »

Delighted with this, I hate instant re spawn vehicles

In an actual game, sure. But in a grind server where you're just trying to unlock stuff to use in actual games?

(BTW, doesn't it strike anyone that this is a horrible broken model of how to run a game? I shouldn't need to put in a dozen hours playing not-real games to unlock stuff I paid for so that I can go play a real game with a fair chance of winning a skirmish! :mad: ).

Dcully · 25-11-2013 2:17pm

ktulu123 wrote: »

Delighted with this, I hate instant re spawn vehicles

Agreed , although my clans server have a fast respawn rate im not a fan of it.

Blazer · 25-11-2013 2:37pm

the worst is the stealth jets..trying to unclock upto the 30mm cannon is painful to say the least.
I drove one of those powerboards for the first time yesterday..had a 200% xp booster...every time Igot a kill I unlocked something..by the end of the round I had unlocked all bar the tv missile which is fúcking redonkolous..if that was the stealth jet I would't have earned enough points to unlock anything

KillerShamrock · 25-11-2013 3:20pm

Blazer wrote: »

the worst is the stealth jets..trying to unclock upto the 30mm cannon is painful to say the least.
I drove one of those powerboards for the first time yesterday..had a 200% xp booster...every time Igot a kill I unlocked something..by the end of the round I had unlocked all bar the tv missile which is fúcking redonkolous..if that was the stealth jet I would't have earned enough points to unlock anything

Just kill the ac 130 when its up that's how I unlocked everything for them easy points because otherwise compared to attack jets they are hopeless.
They should easily run rings around the attack jets and helis but no they have the same speed and manuverability as the attack jets so are pointless especially on dawnbreaker.
Attck jets should be ground focused and not have air to air except for the cannon.

Sparks · 25-11-2013 3:30pm

Hopefully when China Rising brings back the air superiority mode, we'll see them buffed a little and get grind servers to level them up...

jonski · 27-11-2013 7:10pm

Anyone else find it hard to connect to some servers ? servers that you have been on before but then it Just says " Game disconnected: could not join server ".

It's happening to me now with 1st Para server trying to join one of my mates playing there .

dreamers75 · 27-11-2013 7:22pm

jonski wrote: »

Anyone else find it hard to connect to some servers ? servers that you have been on before but then it Just says " Game disconnected: could not join server ".

It's happening to me now with 1st Para server trying to join one of my mates playing there .

They have reserved slots and you cant join them, it needs to be under the threshold for you to get on.

Usually when its 62/64 you get issues. Fair few servers i get that on.

iColdFusion · 28-11-2013 1:09pm

What moron decided to have your minor dogtag cover most of the major one, whats the point in that!?

The LAW is a complete joke too, that should be at the end of the unlock ladder not given out to every newb who needs it to aim for them.

Sparks · 28-11-2013 1:17pm

The dogtags are somewhere around the 437th item on my list of bugs I wish they'd fix

And the LAW isn't completely autoaim, and it doesn't have enough wallop for it to be all that horrible. The stinger, on the other hand, seems to have been buffed recently - right when I finally start to use the scout helo the stinger went from unable to knock down a scout after four consecutive hits to being able to destroy it in two. Harumph.

Tazzimus · 28-11-2013 1:49pm

The law only seems to blow feathers at vehicles.

It is annoying when you're getting locked on every half a second though

iColdFusion · 28-11-2013 2:00pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

The law only seems to blow feathers at vehicles.

It is annoying when you're getting locked on every half a second though

Its around 21 damage which is enough to make me wonder why should I bother with the RPG or SMAW which mostly only do slightly more damage but take far more aiming leaving you exposed and the LAW has a fast reload too.

Sparks · 28-11-2013 2:38pm

Because RPGs and SRAWs are one-shot kills on helos (bar the transport helo, I think), do more splash damage to troops, and have faster reloads and velocities.

Tazzimus · 28-11-2013 3:23pm

And you have to aim, so it makes you feel better when you do hit something

Thats why I try not use the stinger/igla/javelin

Cuddlesworth · 28-11-2013 4:03pm

Sparks wrote: »

And the LAW isn't completely autoaim, and it doesn't have enough wallop for it to be all that horrible. The stinger, on the other hand, seems to have been buffed recently - right when I finally start to use the scout helo the stinger went from unable to knock down a scout after four consecutive hits to being able to destroy it in two. Harumph.

I think it got boosted to the same damaged as the Igla, so 55 on a scout or attack. At that point, I don't see why you would bother with the Igla. The 100 extra range isn't worth standing there like a pleb hoping for a hit.

Sparks · 28-11-2013 4:16pm

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

I think it got boosted to the same damaged as the Igla, so 55 on a scout or attack. At that point, I don't see why you would bother with the Igla. The 100 extra range isn't worth standing there like a pleb hoping for a hit.

Yeah, you just can't use the Ilga on most maps, not without ending up on the wrong end of someone's .50 cal sniper round/knife/C4 youtube trolling video/grenade. If it had double the range or double the hitting power, maybe it'd be worth the risk (it'd be handy to attack the gunship with, since that thing never seems to get within 10 meters of the range of any ground troop's AA), but otherwise, nope.

Cuddlesworth · 28-11-2013 4:44pm

Sparks wrote: »

(it'd be handy to attack the gunship with, since that thing never seems to get within 10 meters of the range of any ground troop's AA), but otherwise, nope.

Only infantry weapon for the gunship is the SMAW. I don't think anything else can hit it, even on a building.

Sparks · 28-11-2013 4:54pm

SMAW or SRAW? A SMAW hit at that range, even on the gunship, would be a tad flukey...

ZiabR · 28-11-2013 7:57pm

Sparks wrote: »

SMAW or SRAW? A SMAW hit at that range, even on the gunship, would be a tad flukey...

Was thinking that alright! would change flukey to nearly impossible.

Cuddlesworth · 28-11-2013 8:26pm

Sraw I suppose. Keep getting the two mixed up. Although with near zero drop, it should be possible on both.

Hareton · 30-11-2013 12:16pm

Not really a fan of this no hit markers on hardcore anymore. Only prob for me with the game so far really

James74 · 30-11-2013 1:11pm

Jaysus there are some self-important, entitled pricks playing this game. Rant over, just had to vent. That is all.

Not The Real Scarecrow · 30-11-2013 2:19pm

James74 wrote: »

Jaysus there are some self-important, entitled pricks playing this game. Rant over, just had to vent. That is all.

I'm a nosey prick....tell me more

James74 · 30-11-2013 2:25pm

Well this thing happened with yer man, and he says "wat", and I says "eh?", and he says "go on!", and I says "but", and he says "Jaysus!"

You get the idea. Right?

AbusesToilets · 30-11-2013 6:55pm

Played a game the other night, unlocked everything for the attack boats. Sweet. Go to set my loadout in Battlelog, nothing has been updated, none of the points applied. The battle log is correct but none of it translated to the game. That is not the first time something like that has happened. So annoying.

ZiabR · 30-11-2013 7:34pm

Yeah there are defo issues with the armored upgrades. Pain in the swiss roll.

Tazzimus · 02-12-2013 9:35am

The points for ribbons still aren't being applied.

I've lost count of the amount of times I've leveled up at the end of a round only to have to do it at the start of the next one again due to the points from the ribbons not being applied. I had thought the 2 updates would have sorted this.

FutureGuy · 02-12-2013 2:17pm

I decided to switch from COD to BF4 this year.

I cannot believe how utterly broken this game actually is. I cannot really connect to servers, and when I do, most of the time I'm booted just before the game starts or the game freezes during gameplay and returns to the home screen.

I'm hoping someone on adverts is looking to swap this for Ghosts. 65 quid for a broken mess. Christ.

Timmyctc · 02-12-2013 3:10pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

I decided to switch from COD to BF4 this year.

I cannot believe how utterly broken this game actually is. I cannot really connect to servers, and when I do, most of the time I'm booted just before the game starts or the game freezes during gameplay and returns to the home screen.

I'm hoping someone on adverts is looking to swap this for Ghosts. 65 quid for a broken mess. Christ.

Have to say its stupid that everyone (myself included) all just accept that games are rarely, if ever, released finished. Can you imagine back in ps1 days if a game was released and buggy and glitchy as **** if anyone would ever give it the time to redeem itself? The gaming industry, like most industries, is going downhill in this regards.

However I will say past the game bugging out BF4 is on an entirely different planet of awesome in comparison to Ghosts. I would say you'll regret trading bf4 out because when it starts working in the next couple of weeks (which should have been its ACTUAL release date imo) you'll see why CoD Is effectively dead in the water without a rehaul of the series. (TBH CoD's been fair crap since BO II came out.) Give me MW1,2 and BO any day of the week

ZiabR · 02-12-2013 7:00pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

I decided to switch from COD to BF4 this year.

I cannot believe how utterly broken this game actually is. I cannot really connect to servers, and when I do, most of the time I'm booted just before the game starts or the game freezes during gameplay and returns to the home screen.

I'm hoping someone on adverts is looking to swap this for Ghosts. 65 quid for a broken mess. Christ.

Can i ask what platform you are playing on? Yes the game is broken but what you are reporting is not the norm.

Have you copied BOTH disks to the hard drive and delete the cache from the save games?

Dawnbreaker as a Map is broken and you should avoid that map but everything else is ok. I only crash on Dawnbreaker but everything else is grand. Not perfect but ok.

BF is still leagues ahead of COD.

GottaGetGatt · 03-12-2013 1:13am

Jesus spawning on the US side of metro 64 players is a nightmare if your team doesn't get a foot hold on the B flag.You literally cannot get up the stairs with the amount of grenades and lvgs coming at you.

Whats the story with the MP-APS for the support class.Do you have to be controlling it to work of do you just place it?

vvvvThis yoke!!:D

dreamers75 · 03-12-2013 11:05am

Missions are annoying, good idea but poorly implemented.

Start mission for top kills, join round kill 2 people round ends. You have 47 hours to beat 2 but it never takes another round score into consideration. So you lose the mission with a score of 2.

MajesticDonkey · 03-12-2013 3:35pm

5 fcuking gig download. Thanks DICE - I'll see you all tomorrow.

TheTacticsGuy · 03-12-2013 4:07pm

Latest patch is meant to be seriously bad. Doesn't fix any of the crashes, crashes are actually more frequent now and all the bugs that were meant to be addressed in this patch have NOT been confirmed by the community.

I mean like for a BF youtuber like JackFrags to release a video on competitive BF and say that due to its instability it's not a runner for competitive gaming.

EA/DICE what the **** are ye doing at all??????

Bohrio · 03-12-2013 4:38pm

logik wrote: »

Can i ask what platform you are playing on? Yes the game is broken but what you are reporting is not the norm.

Have you copied BOTH disks to the hard drive and delete the cache from the save games?

Dawnbreaker as a Map is broken and you should avoid that map but everything else is ok. I only crash on Dawnbreaker but everything else is grand. Not perfect but ok.

BF is still leagues ahead of COD.

I am exactly the same... and many more stuff that he doesnt mention. I play on XBOX one, I believe is the same on PS4

5uspect · 03-12-2013 9:13pm

Thought I'd try out the new maps. Spent three rounds being insta killed non-stop so I didn't get much of a chance to see if they're any good. For **** sake I'm getting sick of being instantly killed by the merest hint of a bullet in my direction while my own bullets do **** all.

ahnowbrowncow · 03-12-2013 11:33pm

5uspect wrote: »

Thought I'd try out the new maps. Spent three rounds being insta killed non-stop so I didn't get much of a chance to see if they're any good. For **** sake I'm getting sick of being instantly killed by the merest hint of a bullet in my direction while my own bullets do **** all.

What platform are you playing on? I thought the one hit kill was patched on the pc today.

5uspect · 04-12-2013 2:12am

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

What platform are you playing on? I thought the one hit kill was patched on the pc today.

PC. TBH I feel like it's a lottery when ever I fire up BF4. At the weekend I had some great games, but tonight was pure frustration as was the entire week after launch.

I haven't had a game infuriate me as much as this. I've never been a great player but I've always had fun with Battlefield over the years. I'm struggling to find the fun in this game. When it's good it's great but those moments are too rare.

I'm beginning to think I should just give up on it. Maybe this Battlefield isn't for me.

BlitzKrieg · 04-12-2013 5:31am

whats really beginning to annoy me is that the game doesnt seem to be compatible with any of the admin software most servers seem to be using.

Any server that has an autobalance on it just completely f*cks up at some point and causes the balance go out of control.

This I think is partly caused by players joining on friends cause battlefield itself will try and put them in the same squad if squad joining is left on. Meanwhile the admin program has a freakout cause it's trying to move a player one way and battlefield is trying to move them another, so you'll end up on one team, the balance will be messed up, but if you try to move to the other team it wont let you.

Arrgh so incredibly frustrating, especially on rush maps.

TheTacticsGuy · 04-12-2013 11:23am

5uspect wrote: »

PC. TBH I feel like it's a lottery when ever I fire up BF4. At the weekend I had some great games, but tonight was pure frustration as was the entire week after launch.

I haven't had a game infuriate me as much as this. I've never been a great player but I've always had fun with Battlefield over the years. I'm struggling to find the fun in this game. When it's good it's great but those moments are too rare.

I'm beginning to think I should just give up on it. Maybe this Battlefield isn't for me.

I would consider myself a good player (above average at least) but I still have to agree with this. Those BF moments that everyone loves having just don't seem to happen that much any more. It's 5 weeks since BF4 released and I still can't get into the meat of it. Remember those epic moments in maps like Damavand, Karkand, Kharg, Seine, etc. Ahhhh memories.

TerrorFirmer · 04-12-2013 11:42am

I wish they would introduce caps on classes. Every squad should have at least one of each. Snipers do have their place, and they're great for covering point captures and all that, but it really gets on my nerves when there's too many of them. I was playing a game last week on Rogue Transmission and at the start of the game, nearly half the team were climbing up onto the tall support! Same map, start of the game, full helicopter takes off, all in the same squad, and when he's flying over the tall support, the pilot (a sniper) just bails out, leaving the rest of us stuck in the helicopter as it blows up a few seconds later when it hits the side. We call him on it and he's like 'Can ya not just hit f1 no?'

On the other side, then, there are never any medics around, they need to sort that out. Being revived is something of a miracle, the one time it might happen in a night gaming. Sometimes I wonder if you're being stupid trying to defend points that are being lost, so many people are only interested in playing deathmatch. I didn't play BF3 much, but I actually find in BF4, even though I really like it, the squad cohesion is crap compared to BF2! Relative to the times both came out, I still think BF2 is by far the best BF game....

Grumpypants · 04-12-2013 12:02pm

That's the same in most games it takes a few weeks for the crap to filter out. They will get sick or you will find better servers after a while. It was the same in MOH that took a few weeks before it turned into the tactical shooter it was designed to be.

Very hard for devs to force people into being a class they don't like. Imagine the outrage if a sniper had to play as an engineer and do things other than hide in the mountains.

Tazzimus · 04-12-2013 12:23pm

It is a very rare thing to have teams/squads working together. When they do, you make serious progress, supports resupplying everyone, assault chucking down medic bags/reviving team mates. It all makes so much difference when trying to cap or defend a point.

I'm waiting for the servers to be region locked as well. Sick of dumping entire mags into people only for them to turn around and kill you with the pistol. I don't get the mentality of cheating in these games, takes all the fun out of it I think.

Varik · 04-12-2013 1:28pm

Good job DICE, you stopped people abusing the mav in BF3 and now in BF4 you make something worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh8voPESN70

Sparks · 04-12-2013 1:38pm

I dunno... if you're doing a rooftop camper routine and that happened to you, well, I have the world's smallest violin over here...
And if you're playing as regular infantry, how hard is it to see and shoot/dodge it when you're on the receiving end?

Varik · 04-12-2013 1:45pm

Sparks wrote: »

I dunno... if you're doing a rooftop camper routine and that happened to you, well, I have the world's smallest violin over here...
And if you're playing as regular infantry, how hard is it to see and shoot/dodge it when you're on the receiving end?

Haven't seen it at all out side of this video.

Playing on PS4 so with the exception of the odd person who transferred from the PS3 most people are low levels.

mozattack · 04-12-2013 2:22pm

Varik wrote: »

Haven't seen it at all out side of this video.

Playing on PS4 so with the exception of the odd person who transferred from the PS3 most people are low levels.

Varik, my China Rising isn't in the store for me (PS4). How did you get it working.

BTW, I agree on this flying plane thing... very childish gadget. Wish it was gone (without even experiencing it)

Sparks · 04-12-2013 2:37pm

Or at least make it so that a roadkill is a one-hit thing (ie, you can roadkill, but the SUAV won't survive it either). I mean, it is a real thing (it's called the RQ-11 Raven) and if it hit you in the head while going full-tilt, it'd probably hurt. It weights just shy of 2kg, and at cruise it's doing 56kph, in a dive up to 97kph. That's 230 to 690 joules of kinetic energy. A .45 bullet, by comparison, has 550 joules or so. The bullet's smaller cross-section means more penetration, but you fly a Raven into someone's head at high speed, it's going to knock them silly at least...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-bVGyrBxQ0

kensutz · 04-12-2013 2:49pm

China Rising downloading on PS4, should be ready to go in a couple of hours.

Battlefield 4 [aaaarrrghhh bitching and moaning]

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