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Battlefield 4 [aaaarrrghhh bitching and moaning]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 995 ✭✭✭iColdFusion


    You can shoot the guy repairing, its pretty easy. Also as a squad you can drop a chopper easy. This is a team game, you are not meant to be able to go mono a mono with a tank, boat, chopper, etc.
    Playing peek-a-boom with a tank while on foot is great fun though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Mad_Dave wrote: »
    Have to say well done to DICE, after the latest console patch I've now had more freezes in one day than in the 12 day pre patch. Again, well done lads.

    There has been no console client patch yet... Everything is SERVER side which will not fix the issues seen. Word on the street is that the consoles are getting a patch next Thurs/Fri for the release of the X1.

    I played about 8 maps last night on the 360 and 2 crashed, I got 4 in a row without a crash which was great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Mad_Dave


    logik wrote: »
    There has been no console client patch yet... Everything is SERVER side which will not fix the issues seen. Word on the street is that the consoles are getting a patch next Thurs/Fri for the release of the X1.

    I played about 8 maps last night on the 360 and 2 crashed, I got 4 in a row without a crash which was great.

    Ah yeah, you're right, just venting some frustration :)
    Seems better this morning, but the last two days have been unplayable with disconnects, lag and atrocious hit detection.
    Think console patches have to be vetted by sony/microsoft so I don't think dice have any say is when they're actually released unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    As engineer, I will fecking shove my ratchet up to next Tank/BTR drivers arse and take it out out of their mouth if they will just drive away, while I repair then and trying to keep them alive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭Drexel


    As engineer, I will fecking shove my ratchet up to next Tank/BTR drivers arse and take it out out of their mouth if they will just drive away, while I repair then and trying to keep them alive.

    this happens constantly. Very frustrating. Or people driving past you after you asked to me picked up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Mad_Dave wrote: »
    Ah yeah, you're right, just venting some frustration :)
    Seems better this morning, but the last two days have been unplayable with disconnects, lag and atrocious hit detection.
    Think console patches have to be vetted by sony/microsoft so I don't think dice have any say is when they're actually released unfortunately.

    Oh I hear ya mate. Its a shambles of a game so far. Been playing today and not had a crash yet but will have to wait and see how long that lasts.

    Fingers crossed we get the console patch this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    As engineer, I will fecking shove my ratchet up to next Tank/BTR drivers arse and take it out out of their mouth if they will just drive away, while I repair then and trying to keep them alive.

    Yeah. Playing a game that's designed to be played as a team but without any teamwork or comms. Apparently there is a me in team if you're just ass-backward and messed up...


  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭tim3000


    Mad_Dave wrote: »
    Add attack boats to that list, serious firepower and extremely well armoured. Takes more C4 to destroy one than it does a tank !

    Javelins best weapon I have found against them. RPG's will kill the guys on the miniguns but javelins work quite well for mobility kills and destruction. Especially if you get another squad-mate to help you. Though since you cant squad up in the main menu (which DICE should really fix since it is a squad based shooter) this makes it hard.

    Also if you happen to be in an LAV, TOW missiles and Zuni rockets also work a treat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭GottaGetGatt


    They did some much talk about levelution or however its spelled, they forgot all the small things.
    Setting up a squad from the main menu gone
    server browser filter system is fooked
    Every time i spawn in a tank i freeze
    Certain maps -freeze
    Domination points for capturing flags are a joke
    Queuing for games is gone and you cant even look to see who's the server or the map rotation.
    The jets hud is tiny,you cant even see the altitude meter
    Rubber banding constantly even though when i switch to BF3 its perfect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    They did some much talk about levelution or however its spelled, they forgot all the small things.
    Setting up a squad from the main menu gone
    server browser filter system is fooked
    Every time i spawn in a tank i freeze
    Certain maps -freeze
    Domination points for capturing flags are a joke
    Queuing for games is gone and you cant even look to see who's the server or the map rotation.
    The jets hud is tiny,you cant even see the altitude meter
    Rubber banding constantly even though when i switch to BF3 its perfect.

    Im never freezing or anything I think I'm blessed :D Obviously the squadding up in the main menu is a shambles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    need to set squad join in game settings for the drop zone to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Some things you can try for the 360 and PS3 versions of the game to stop the freezing.

    1) Install both discs to the HD
    2) Go into the HD and delete the save game files for single player

    I did this yesterday and I have played maybe 14 maps today with zero crashes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001




    what operation locker looks like at times haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭SpannerMonkey


    Stealth jets are pointless and have the killing power of a small kitten :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭chompdown


    Amazon lost my order so I still havent got a copy but I played over at my mates gaff last night. What's the story with not being able to see who is on your team until you actually aim at them? No player names or team symbols appeared over player heads until I was just about to shoot at them.

    This is in hardcore by the way, but it was the same with the demo. Is this a bug or a new feature? Terrible!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    chompdown wrote: »
    Amazon lost my order so I still havent got a copy but I played over at my mates gaff last night. What's the story with not being able to see who is on your team until you actually aim at them? No player names or team symbols appeared over player heads until I was just about to shoot at them.

    This is in hardcore by the way, but it was the same with the demo. Is this a bug or a new feature? Terrible!

    Feature for Hardcore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Lancam Dam.
    AA tank camps in the spawn or at E.
    Nobody can even take off in a helo.
    Wonderful map design. FFS...


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭ktulu123


    Worst map in the game, AA camping is bull**** on that map


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭GottaGetGatt


    Sparks wrote: »
    Lancam Dam.
    AA tank camps in the spawn or at E.
    Nobody can even take off in a helo.
    Wonderful map design. FFS...

    Is it not an automatic AA no?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    No, it's someone in a mobile AA tank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jonski


    Also on the same map , don't linger around in the boat at spawn , guys can take you out from the other spawn in their boat with the TV missile .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭mozattack


    PS3 here;

    A lot of freezes, wierd bugs and lag happening over the weekend (wasn't my internet 'cos GTA online worked perfect).

    Also I am onto my second Support Class Service Start but can't pick Perimeter Defence of the other second last perk (Anti-Air I think) despite having more than the required points... WTF?

    A lot of slow-down on the busy maps and on O. Locker last night I was made invincible for 2 mins until the end of the round but I couldn't kill anyone either as they were invincible to me. Again, WTF?

    Later on my controls inverted so that up was up and down was down (I play inverted normally) for a few minutes. ARGH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Mad_Dave


    mozattack wrote: »

    Also I am onto my second Support Class Service Start but can't pick Perimeter Defence of the other second last perk (Anti-Air I think) despite having more than the required points... WTF?

    They were responsible for a lot of crashes, so DICE have turned them off until they figure out a permanent solution.

    Client patch can't come soon enough.

    Edit: Don't hold your breath for the patch is seems. According to dice they're currently working on patches for PC, PS4 and Xbox 360. It seems ps3 has dropped to the bottom of the pile, maybe we'll get something with the release of china rising, who knows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    12 points for a revive, loads of horse s**t. It aint worth the rish to revive a teammate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭GottaGetGatt


    I turned my network smoothing factor up to 100 and it fixed my problem. Didn't rubber band or freeze out all weekend. Wasn't on tonight though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    12 points for a revive, loads of horse s**t. It aint worth the rish to revive a teammate.
    Most of the time I refuse revives anyway because the plonker doing the revive is doing this:



    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    So, on Celts, [MIKU]AKARI233 loves sitting in the do-not-go area, attacking helos in the other spawn. Can a Celts admin ban the ****er please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    12 points for a revive, loads of horse s**t. It aint worth the rish to revive a teammate.
    You get more points the longer you charge the paddles for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Sparks wrote: »
    Most of the time I refuse revives anyway because the plonker doing the revive is doing this:



    :pac:

    That made me laugh out loud on tea break in work and people are looking at me funny! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    There are three whole seasons of that for you to dive into so :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    Sparks wrote: »
    There are three whole seasons of that for you to dive into so :D

    I only came across that last week it funnyccause it's so true haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Sparks wrote: »
    There are three whole seasons of that for you to dive into so :D

    Really? Class, going to get stuck in tonight so!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Last night I pumped about 20 bullets into a guy, with no hit markers appearing and him not dying, I thought 'Must be a friendly'.... Nope, shotgun to the face. Very frustrating. Apart from that I'm happy enough :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Have it on the 360,

    Last night seems to be the worst so far, no hit markers at all so never sure if I was hitting a moving target that wasn't right in front of me.

    Counted 70 bullets to kill someone last night from the M249 (I think this may be due to the servers not being region locked so people with high ping rates are dominating)

    Having to level up twice constantly so losing out on lots of points.

    Players vanishing right in front of me, only to reappear a few seconds later beside me knife in hand.


    Oh and my saved game data has corrupted twice now. First time was the Monday after it came out.


    All in all very frustrating, the game is just about half finished, thats being generous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Have it on the 360,

    Last night seems to be the worst so far, no hit markers at all so never sure if I was hitting a moving target that wasn't right in front of me.

    Counted 70 bullets to kill someone last night from the M249 (I think this may be due to the servers not being region locked so people with high ping rates are dominating)

    Having to level up twice constantly so losing out on lots of points.

    Players vanishing right in front of me, only to reappear a few seconds later beside me knife in hand.


    Oh and my saved game data has corrupted twice now. First time was the Monday after it came out.


    All in all very frustrating, the game is just about half finished, thats being generous.

    The losing points is related to the Ribbons only. At the end of the game it does not add them to your score so you go backwards. Its a known bug.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    What is it with people not spawning into the gunner seat of the attack helo? FFS.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    Sparks wrote: »
    What is it with people not spawning into the gunner seat of the attack helo? FFS.

    I do, but first I watch them to make sure they
    can fly. Other wise, **** em :). Nothing worse than spawning on someone only for them to hit a building! Some people are numbnuts.
    Go to the range and learn how to fly! Ffs
    (not talking about you, just ranting.) :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Sparks wrote: »
    What is it with people not spawning into the gunner seat of the attack helo? FFS.

    Sat in the pilot seat for 15 minutes one night.

    Jaysis lads its the fooking attack chopper, it can win a round on its own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭B00MSTICK


    I was having some fun with 5 other guys on an otherwise empty server last night which turned into knife only.
    I think the "press F to counter-knife" is a bit broken as it's ridiculously easy to perform.


  • Registered Users Posts: 711 ✭✭✭battser


    FCUKIN JOKE
    3 crashes in the one round on shanghai on celts. How the hell have they not sorted that out yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    Battlelog be down and crashed in a pile of plunder this very morn maties


  • Registered Users Posts: 711 ✭✭✭battser


    fergus1001 wrote: »
    Battlelog be down and crashed in a pile of plunder this very morn maties

    Its actually updating and maintenance work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    fergus1001 wrote: »
    Battlelog be down and crashed in a pile of plunder this very morn maties

    281342.png

    "Normal"? Er... you mean crashing every two to three rounds? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    To be fair, the game crashes seem VERY hardware dependent. (Despite only playing at weekends) I only crash about 1 in every 10 games, max. And I have an old AMD Phenom 965 CPU :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 711 ✭✭✭battser


    To be fair, the game crashes seem VERY hardware dependent. (Despite only playing at weekends) I only crash about 1 in every 10 games, max. And I have an old AMD Phenom 965 CPU :D

    I recon its actually server issues that cause the crash between client and it. My pc is well able there is no way it would be a root cause


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I wish there was some restriction on chopper use. Even if you had to complete a basic 30 minute tutorial before being qualified to fly one in multiplayer. The amount of times I've spawned into, or gotten into a helicopter piloted by someone who appears to have stumbled home after 10 pints down at the local for a game of BF4.....IF YOU CAN'T FLY IT, DON'T EVEN TRY IT! It's one of the worst teamwork offences out there.

    They also should introduce role caps as well - certain number of each classes necessary relevant to the numbers playing. Playing on a server last night with 16v16 on Rogue Transmission, to see 4 snipers on our team - 25% of the team - climbing up the large support pole simultaneously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    battser wrote: »
    My pc is well able there is no way it would be a root cause

    I'm not saying it won't run it specifically - I'm just saying the crashes are hardware dependent in that people with specific hardware crash more frequently that people with other hardware - whether that hardware is newer or more powerful is irrelevant. This is just a theory though - don't think there has been any proof that crashes are linked to hardware.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    battser wrote: »
    I recon its actually server issues that cause the crash between client and it. My pc is well able there is no way it would be a root cause

    It's nothing to do with how good or bad your PC is, being hardware dependant does not equate to being hardware deficient, not sure why some people are taking this meaning.

    Before the last update for example, when everyone else was crashing, I played at least 50 games without crashing, and numerous games on Siege of Shanghai with no crashes either, when others were saying it was crashing everytime the tower was brought down, and so on - never once crashed in that scenario for me.

    Now with the last update I'm crashing regularly unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    I wish there was some restriction on chopper use. Even if you had to complete a basic 30 minute tutorial before being qualified to fly one in multiplayer. The amount of times I've spawned into, or gotten into a helicopter piloted by someone who appears to have stumbled home after 10 pints down at the local for a game of BF4.....IF YOU CAN'T FLY IT, DON'T EVEN TRY IT! It's one of the worst teamwork offences out there.
    And having a "licence" would alleviate it but wouldn't stop the instances where the pilot:
    • Actually has had ten pints and is playing anyway
    • Takes a full transport helo up over a roof in Zavod311 then bails out without warning leaving a full helo turn into a slowly descending coffin that lands right in front of two MBTs and a LAV... (and of course, the general case :D )
    • Takes a stray tank round that throws the helo into a solid object
    • And so on...

    I mean, last night, I spawn into a transport helo on Shanghai only to find that the pilot had just vanished out the door and I was now sitting in seat 4 with two other surprised-looking folks, the helo was at 12% health thanks to an attack helo pass and everyone was jumping for it. I whip out the repair tool, get us back to 80% health, find I'm alone in the helo and now about 50' off the water, hop into the pilot's seat, stabilise and recover with about 2' to spare, leg it off down past C on the left hand side and arc up and over a roof or two towards B, someone spawns in and we clear a roof of snipers, then someone else spawns in right as we take an ilga round and it throws us into an A/C unit on a rooftop, the chopper flips over and it's falling into an alley so there's no way to recover, the two of us bail out but the new gunner's only just coming out of the spawn blackout and never has a chance.

    Now to me, that was a reasonable session as pilot, we saved the helo when the original pilot had thought it unsavable and got three snipers (four if you count the poor surprised sod on the rooftop who had a helo bounce off the roof in front of him and then two chaps with MX-4s riddle him before he got his breath back); but from the point of view of that second gunner, he spawned into a helo that suddenly hit a roof and exploded. NOOB PILOT! was the resounding chat call.

    Point is, the licence idea's neat (put a giant flaming hoop on the test range and you have to fly through it three times in a row without crashing to unlock helos) but won't stop the moaning or all the bad experiences.

    Now, you fix that stupid spawn blackout and bring back a second or two (at the most) of spawn invulnerability to fix that gameplay bug and you'd do a lot more.

    Also, create some way to let transport helos gain XP for pilots. It's been suggested before, to get XP for dropping off people at capture points or the like, and to have unlocks other than paint (countermeasures, for the love of all that's shiny!), and it could be done in a patch...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    R11 Server patch was released today.

    Along with a 200MB+ download for PS3 and 360.

    Next week we will see PC CLIENT Patch number 2 and the long awaited CLIENT patch for the 360 and PS3.

    No day has been confirmed but it will be happening next week. The patches today for the console was to prepare for the CLIENT patch next week and to add some features in for up coming DLC.


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