Chargers Thread

OAOB · 18-05-2015 2:03pm

Le'ron mcclain I think it was. Think he was signed by AJ.
Wouldn't mind having a FB on the roster to help out Gordon instead of one of the 4 TEs we carried last year. Would have to be a good special teamer to make the 53 I reckon

Leslie91 · 18-05-2015 3:44pm

OAOB wrote: »

Le'ron mcclain I think it was. Think he was signed by AJ.
Wouldn't mind having a FB on the roster to help out Gordon instead of one of the 4 TEs we carried last year. Would have to be a good special teamer to make the 53 I reckon

For the amount of/quality of blocking David Johnson did I am all for finding a proper FB. Johnson was a big disappointment as has been Phillips since he arrived. I'd be fine with both of em being gone come September.

OAOB · 18-05-2015 4:54pm

To be honest i barely remember seeing Johnson in as FB. I like the idea of having versatile players but if they're playing two positions and ineffective at both then get rid of them.
Philips has been a disaster, i saw a stat a while ago that showed his blocking as below average. He's not a passing threat so might as well play an extra O-line than him

tripperman · 19-05-2015 7:27pm

Joe barksdale rt from the rams signed on a one year deal, wonder is dj going guard

Leslie91 · 19-05-2015 7:31pm

tripperman wrote: »

Joe barksdale rt from the rams signed on a one year deal, wonder is dj going guard

Gonna b v interesting to see how this pans out. 1 thing is for sure tk God we won't be going forward with Troutman on right side of O line. This is a good signing.

tripperman · 19-05-2015 7:37pm

Leslie91 wrote: »

Gonna b v interesting to see how this pans out. 1 thing is for sure tk God we won't be going forward with Troutman on right side of O line. This is a good signing.

I think its great improvement on oline since last season, can't see troutman starting now, rivers must be happy now with this line

OAOB · 19-05-2015 8:01pm

Not sure how big an improvement this is. The knock on Fluker is his pass protection but apparently Barksdale is no better. He's a very good run blocker and him and Fluker will move people but in my opinion whoever is the better pass blocker is the starting RT.
Wonder could Barksdale play RG?

I know we didn't see too much last year but i think if I was to list what i think the top 5 players we have on the O-line I'd have to include Robinson at C. Watt is pencilled in there but if Robinson could earn that and move to RG I'd be happy with that

Leslie91 · 19-05-2015 8:21pm

OAOB wrote: »

Not sure how big an improvement this is. The knock on Fluker is his pass protection but apparently Barksdale is no better. He's a very good run blocker and him and Fluker will move people but in my opinion whoever is the better pass blocker is the starting RT.
Wonder could Barksdale play RG?

I know we didn't see too much last year but i think if I was to list what i think the top 5 players we have on the O-line I'd have to include Robinson at C. Watt is pencilled in there but if Robinson could earn that and move to RG I'd be happy with that

For me Watt is far superior to Robinson, at center & guard. I still think Fluker will get his shot to stay at RT but I won't be shocked if Barksdale ends up at RT and Fluke at guard.

OAOB · 19-05-2015 8:46pm

Leslie91 wrote: »

For me Watt is far superior to Robinson, at center & guard. I still think Fluker will get his shot to stay at RT but I won't be shocked if Barksdale ends up at RT and Fluke at guard.

Watt is far better than Robinson but my point is that Robinson is better than Barksdale and Troutman so start him and get the best 5 players on the line.

Barksdale is a cheap signing and risk free so definitely worth trying. I think Fluker will be an excellent G but no point moving him if we're not getting better at RT. Barksdale gives us a competition at RT but we've a lot of prospects at RG that i'm interested in. I'd love to see Sirles or Watts earn the RG and Fluker stay at RT

tripperman · 20-05-2015 8:22am

OAOB wrote: »

Watt is far better than Robinson but my point is that Robinson is better than Barksdale and Troutman so start him and get the best 5 players on the line.

Barksdale is a cheap signing and risk free so definitely worth trying. I think Fluker will be an excellent G but no point moving him if we're not getting better at RT. Barksdale gives us a competition at RT but we've a lot of prospects at RG that i'm interested in. I'd love to see Sirles or Watts earn the RG and Fluker stay at RT

It's a good value deal for chargers gives competition at rt and also may improve rg aswell, read last night rivers is open to short term contract is something needs to be worked on, weedle still holding out, I'm a bit disappointed that now the drafts over there doesn't seem to be progress on his contract, I know age is becoming a factor but he's still a major player for us for few years to come

OAOB · 20-05-2015 9:50am

Front office pissing off our 2 most important players this off season. Don't think the players are blameless in it but bridges need to be mended and soon.
Weddle and Rivers both have 3-4 productive years left and the team will not get upgrades on them so time to get it sorted out and extend

OAOB · 20-05-2015 9:53am

Saw on twitter a few of the knowledgeable supporters reckon Barksdale might be a good move for us from watching his tape. Music to my ears.
Look forward to reading Kyles breakdown on BFTB

tripperman · 20-05-2015 10:23am

OAOB wrote: »

Saw on twitter a few of the knowledgeable supporters reckon Barksdale might be a good move for us from watching his tape. Music to my ears.
Look forward to reading Kyles breakdown on BFTB

Yeah looking forward to bolts from view on the signing, the weddle situation has to be sorted out his leadership on the defence is very important and his experience to pass on to the rookies in the mini camps

Leslie91 · 20-05-2015 2:02pm

Yeah not sure where the Robinson love is coming from, he will only ever be a backup center for me. Barksdale is a much better option along the line. I'd put Sirles ahead of Robinson right now even though he is a probably a guard only.

I still think Fluke keeps his spot at RT and Barksdale fights it out with the mass of bodies for the right guard spot. I see Quigley is gone already.

tripperman · 02-06-2015 8:12am

Very disappointed with the article I read on nfl com, no contract talks with weddle till season is over, very dangerous move with a player of his talent, on plus talks with liguet and rivers are going well

Leslie91 · 02-06-2015 10:18am

tripperman wrote: »

Very disappointed with the article I read on nfl com, no contract talks with weddle till season is over, very dangerous move with a player of his talent, on plus talks with liguet and rivers are going well

The Weddle thing is a total mess. The only thing is he can of course be franchised in 2016 if need be, but methinks this upcoming season will be his last in SD. He is not getting any younger but you'd have to wonder what sort of bridges have been burned between him and Chargers brass over this. I could have seen him come back/stay as a coach when he is done playing but not so sure he will now.

Liuget is a no brainer, glad to hear they are in talks...

I must say when I saw that video of Perryman jumping around at that dodgeball thing all I could think was WTF!!, it was like an ACL injury waiting to happen. Not surprised he was read the riot act by McCoy on his return to CP. The guy was even kept out of on the field drills last week for chrissakes and off he goes to this thing at the w/e. Stupid with a capital S.

tripperman · 02-06-2015 11:13am

Leslie91 wrote: »

The Weddle thing is a total mess. The only thing is he can of course be franchised in 2016 if need be, but methinks this upcoming season will be his last in SD. He is not getting any younger but you'd have to wonder what sort of bridges have been burned between him and Chargers brass over this. I could have seen him come back/stay as a coach when he is done playing but not so sure he will now.

Liuget is a no brainer, glad to hear they are in talks...

I must say when I saw that video of Perryman jumping around at that dodgeball thing all I could think was WTF!!, it was like an ACL injury waiting to happen. Not surprised he was read the riot act by McCoy on his return to CP. The guy was even kept out of on the field drills last week for chrissakes and off he goes to this thing at the w/e. Stupid with a capital S.

Yeah I had hoped he finish as a charger and return as coach or in an other capitcity, yeah liuget is a big part of the defence and will be the leader when weddle is gone,

Ah I thought I was seeing things when watching it, pure insanity after sitting out otas last week with a problem, when McCoy and Tt seen they must have went mental, he needed a reading for it

Leslie91 · 02-06-2015 4:50pm

tripperman wrote: »

Yeah I had hoped he finish as a charger and return as coach or in an other capitcity, yeah liuget is a big part of the defence and will be the leader when weddle is gone,

Ah I thought I was seeing things when watching it, pure insanity after sitting out otas last week with a problem, when McCoy and Tt seen they must have went mental, he needed a reading for it

I see good ol Donald Butler admitted he was pure sh1te last year, but interesting that he/or it was also mentioned he had 2 surgeries in the offseason. They were always denying he was playing hurt last year, I wonder what the real truth was. I will agree will him that he was pure muck last yr. It would be great to see the 2103 Butler back.

tripperman · 02-06-2015 5:33pm

Leslie91 wrote: »

I see good ol Donald Butler admitted he was pure sh1te last year, but interesting that he/or it was also mentioned he had 2 surgeries in the offseason. They were always denying he was playing hurt last year, I wonder what the real truth was. I will agree will him that he was pure muck last yr. It would be great to see the 2103 Butler back.

oh dear oh dear McCoy, you see what mccoy is reportedly said at otas today or yesterday only just seen it on phone, he really making this weddle mess a whole lot worse if its true, Yeah I had good laugh at that, at least he had the b**ls to admit he was muck last year, wonder if he was injured, be good see him at his previous best all rite,

Leslie91 · 02-06-2015 7:08pm

tripperman wrote: »

oh dear oh dear McCoy, you see what mccoy is reportedly said at otas today or yesterday only just seen it on phone, he really making this weddle mess a whole lot worse if its true, Yeah I had good laugh at that, at least he had the b**ls to admit he was muck last year, wonder if he was injured, be good see him at his previous best all rite,

Was that McCoy having a go at him? intimating he should be 'here' with his teammates?... and that we should move on without him. Silly silly silly.

No mention of Gates not being there either.

I'm not a fan of McNorv.

Justin10 · 02-06-2015 8:49pm

No one ask is Weddle the issue here?

We don't seem to have an issue with contract talks with anyone else including Rivers who had publicly come out and said he wouldn't negotiate.

tripperman · 02-06-2015 9:20pm

Leslie91 wrote: »

Was that McCoy having a go at him? intimating he should be 'here' with his teammates?... and that we should move on without him. Silly silly silly.

No mention of Gates not being there either.

I'm not a fan of McNorv.

Yeah that's the one Leslie, maybe I'm the only one who rather not see or hear of that coming out ota, focus on the players who are present and get the rookies used to the drills and that, don't say anything silly or stupid that could come back and affect the locker room at key time in the season, these things can boil over and ruin a run at the playoffs, I agree with roichey weddle could handle the situation better as could the chargers, rivers is working out getting to know Gordon and building a good rhythm with green in gates absence which is crucial for the future,

Leslie91 · 03-06-2015 9:49am

tripperman wrote: »

Yeah that's the one Leslie, maybe I'm the only one who rather not see or hear of that coming out ota, focus on the players who are present and get the rookies used to the drills and that, don't say anything silly or stupid that could come back and affect the locker room at key time in the season, these things can boil over and ruin a run at the playoffs, I agree with roichey weddle could handle the situation better as could the chargers, rivers is working out getting to know Gordon and building a good rhythm with green in gates absence which is crucial for the future,

Yeah I just hope there is substance to the hyping of Green again, for too long has he not been getting a real shot. Supposedly that is as much his fault as the coaching staff's. He needs to grow up and realise he is the future here at TE and grasp the opp by the gonads.

tripperman · 05-06-2015 10:28pm

Leslie91 wrote: »

Yeah I just hope there is substance to the hyping of Green again, for too long has he not been getting a real shot. Supposedly that is as much his fault as the coaching staff's. He needs to grow up and realise he is the future here at TE and grasp the opp by the gonads.

If he doesn't grasp it this season and gates carries the team again, I'll be worried as there's no other te on the rooster to fill his boots in my opinion

Leslie91 · 10-06-2015 12:13pm

At last............ Liuget deal is done. Now for Philip.

tripperman · 10-06-2015 1:59pm

Leslie91 wrote: »

At last............ Liuget deal is done. Now for Philip.

Yeah and looks good value to me,

Leslie91 · 10-06-2015 3:45pm

And Malcom says 2015 is his final year. I can still remember the day he came in as an UDFA from Wyoming. Followed him from that moment on, even had him as my 'adopted' Charger way back when... before he became known as M80. Love the underdog stories like his, Gates and more recently Branden Oliver.

Justin10 · 10-06-2015 8:23pm

More good news today. Chargers announced they will retire #21

Never in doubt, reason I fell in love with the Chargers

phatkev · 10-06-2015 9:03pm

tripperman wrote: »

Yeah and looks good value to me,

whats he getting?

Justin10 · 10-06-2015 9:51pm

phatkev wrote: »

whats he getting?

5 year 58 mill with 30 guaranteed

phatkev · 10-06-2015 10:15pm

Holy sh1t. That makes him 4th highest paid DE in the league, absolutely absurd!! If Liuget is worth that much I dread to think what Mo Wilkerson's agent is asking the Jets for

tripperman · 10-06-2015 11:54pm

Rochey18 wrote: »

More good news today. Chargers announced they will retire #21

Never in doubt, reason I fell in love with the Chargers

I started following the chargers because of him when I started watching nfl in 2002/3

Leslie91 · 11-06-2015 10:31am

phatkev wrote: »

Holy sh1t. That makes him 4th highest paid DE in the league, absolutely absurd!! If Liuget is worth that much I dread to think what Mo Wilkerson's agent is asking the Jets for

Liuget is good but it is pretty incredible to pay any 3-4 DE not named JJ Watt that sort of money. 3-4 DEs can end up just being space/body eaters. They are not generally expected to create much of a pass rush but should be effective in the run game (our other DE Reyes is v poor at both). The big deal for 3-4 DEs is that they need a dominant nose tackle alongside and Liuget has never had that, so to be honest he has done pretty well ****e nose tackle play considered.

Liuget is pretty much the only half decent D lineman we have and is always seeing minimum double teams.

Leslie91 · 18-06-2015 10:49pm

Can't believe the Weddle presser. Does not paint TT in good light. Seems the Bolts have come up with No number at all. Perhaps Weddles agent told them a figure and the Chargers said no way, but it does not seem like they even tried... It will be very disappointing if Eric is not playing in LA (sorry SD) in 2016.

Unreal what a mess the whole city mayor fabiani team has become. It seems to me the Chargers have no intention of staying at all. Hate the way Deano and his babies hide behind Fabiani. Dean should grow some balls and come out and tell us WTF he really thinks. I'm so sick of all the BS.

tripperman · 18-06-2015 11:04pm

Leslie91 wrote: »

Can't believe the Weddle presser. Does not paint TT in good light. Seems the Bolts have come up with No number at all. Perhaps Weddles agent told them a figure and the Chargers said no way, but it does not seem like they even tried... It will be very disappointing if Eric is not playing in LA (sorry SD) in 2016.

Unreal what a mess the whole city mayor fabiani team has become. It seems to me the Chargers have no intention of staying at all. Hate the way Deano and his babies hide behind Fabiani. Dean should grow some balls and come out and tell us WTF he really thinks. I'm so sick of all the BS.

I can't believe the disrespect showing to weddle he's a key player and team leader not easy to replace him, seen some reporters talking about a trade,
the whole SD L.A. thing is a farce seems they are going no matter what sd puts on table now

RuggieBear · 02-07-2015 9:56pm

Gates out for start of season. Failed drug test.

OAOB · 02-07-2015 10:18pm

RuggieBear wrote: »

Gates out for start of season. Failed drug test.

I actually think this is fine. We now get a chance for Green to show us if he can carry the workload that comes with being a starting TE and it's at a non crucial point of the season. If he shows up then we have brilliant duo at TE.
Gates is at the point of his career where his body will struggle to last over a 16 game season so the shorter season should have him playing better WHEN we get to the playoffs

Molly · 02-07-2015 10:56pm

That's the positive side of things to look on. Alternatively you could react like BFTB which has gotten amazingly sh*t lately. Kyle Posey adn the guy who does play break downs during the season is just about the only reason I go there now a days

OAOB · 02-07-2015 11:13pm

Have to agree about BFTB unfortunately but is there any alternative place to go? For me it's the best of a bad bunch

tripperman · 03-07-2015 8:23pm

OAOB wrote: »

I actually think this is fine. We now get a chance for Green to show us if he can carry the workload that comes with being a starting TE and it's at a non crucial point of the season. If he shows up then we have brilliant duo at TE.
Gates is at the point of his career where his body will struggle to last over a 16 game season so the shorter season should have him playing better WHEN we get to the playoffs

Yeah can't agree more with you on that, its perfect chance to see what LG can do in his contract year, now that gates is out for four games he has the games to prove he is the future at te, I know they plays may have be changed to suit his style of play more but it could be the chance for him to really help rivers and the wrs or woodhead on passing downs stretching the field with his speed to create more space on short routes for them, if he doesn't take it well it could be the end of him in sd

Itssoeasy · 04-07-2015 12:23pm

Did anyone see the financial position advertised by the Chargers ? It stated that you must be willing to relocate to Los Angeles. I found it funny.

tripperman · 04-07-2015 12:53pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Did anyone see the financial position advertised by the Chargers ? It stated that you must be willing to relocate to Los Angeles. I found it funny.

I seen it on a news story, thought it was a joke tho by some reporter,

Leslie91 · 04-07-2015 1:51pm

Real disappointed in Gates. Yes it certainly opens the door for Ld Green, I'm also looking forward to seeing Brian Parker beat out John Phillips. This lad Parker is a dark horse to make the team and maybe even be a better long term replacement for Gates.... having said that Green has all the ability in the world and should be the man.

tripperman · 25-07-2015 9:51am

Only five days till training camp starts what players is everyone looking forward to seeing out there and how they do, for me I want see how Gordon gets on see his ability in contact, green see if he is going to step up and claim the number one te spot going forward in gates absence, really looking forward to seeing perryman see if he is as big a hitter and impact player there talking about

Leslie91 · 26-07-2015 12:52pm

Can't wait. There are even rumblings that Philip will sign an extension in next couple of days.

tripperman · 26-07-2015 1:25pm

Leslie91 wrote: »

Can't wait. There are even rumblings that Philip will sign an extension in next couple of days.

That be a great start to camp, wonder will they do anything with weddle

OAOB · 26-07-2015 7:33pm

tripperman wrote: »

Only five days till training camp starts what players is everyone looking forward to seeing out there and how they do, for me I want see how Gordon gets on see his ability in contact, green see if he is going to step up and claim the number one te spot going forward in gates absence, really looking forward to seeing perryman see if he is as big a hitter and impact player there talking about

I'm most interested in our O-line, we have more options than before and there's has been a huge upgrade in talent. If they perform and Gordon can provide balance then Rivers will put up big numbers and plenty of wins

tripperman · 02-08-2015 8:15am

Only got sit down last night and catch up with news and interviews and videos on chargers. Com from first days of camp some good looking work outs from the rookies, only bad spot I read was Denny is out for two months and flowers sat out yesterday injured aswell

Leslie91 · 02-08-2015 5:24pm

tripperman wrote: »

Only got sit down last night and catch up with news and interviews and videos on chargers. Com from first days of camp some good looking work outs from the rookies, only bad spot I read was Denny is out for two months and flowers sat out yesterday injured aswell

Yeah Tenny has gone down. Not a massive loss esp with the likes of Tony McDaniel on the street now, just released by Seattle.

tripperman · 02-08-2015 8:32pm

Leslie91 wrote: »

Yeah Tenny has gone down. Not a massive loss esp with the likes of Tony McDaniel on the street now, just released by Seattle.

Was he, i had noticed that, be nice addition to the d line, but I think TT will wait till end of August early September before adding to the d line as he has done the last two years with lissmore and Matthews

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