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What is it with Mickey Harte?

  • 19-02-2013 11:43am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭


    First we had his turning up and supporting the Quinn family at a rally last year.

    And now we see he has provided a character reference for a man who has pleaded guilty to sexual assault, stealing his dads van, driving while disqualified and without insurance. The defendant Ronan McCluster had met the victim in a bar and took her back to his van where he sexually assaulted her. He then kicked her out of the van half naked and drove off.
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/tyrone-boss-harte-gives-reference-for-sex-attacker-29078997.html

    Why on earth does Mickey Harte support these characters?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,035 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    ♩♪♫♬ "We've got the love tonight.." ♩♪♫♬


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭Mince Pie


    Ah he's all harte


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    Why on earth does Mickey Harte support these characters?
    The families involved have known each other for generations, they go to the same church, to the same parish functions, they cheer on the same teams, they all know each other

    The second quote tells you why.

    Because in crazy GAA, Catholic, banjo country this makes it all OK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    First we had his turning up and supporting the Quinn family at a rally last year.

    And now we see he has provided a character reference for a man who has pleaded guilty to sexual assault, stealing his dads van, driving while disqualified and without insurance. The defendant Ronan McCluster had met the victim in a bar and took her back to his van where he sexually assaulted her. He then kicked her out of the van half naked and drove off.
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/tyrone-boss-harte-gives-reference-for-sex-attacker-29078997.html

    Why on earth does Mickey Harte support these characters?

    Because he is an egotistical twat!
    Not to forget he was down here a few weeks ago telling us what laws we should have on abortion.
    Didn't he also refuse to take part in RTE after match interviews because he wasn't allowed to decide which commentator would be handling a match!
    Major league muppet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    What is with Cock Lung?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Youth Defence supporter too, knob.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭tin79


    Imagine your mickey had its own little heart. That would be awesome.

    You could fake a mickey heart attack and get some sexy bird to do CPR on it. Thats the dream


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭RikkFlair


    Basq wrote: »
    ♩♪♫♬ "We've got the love tonight.." ♩♪♫♬

    The world!

    How could you forget the lyrics to that unforgettable piece of music history! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    Basq wrote: »
    ♩♪♫♬ "We've got the world tonight.." ♩♪♫♬

    fixed that for ya


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    He's a religious and deluded nut who has an elevated opinion of himself given to him, in his opinion, by God himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    What an idiot. His own daughter not long buried and he's providing references defending the criminal actions of a scumbag towards someone else's daughter.

    Unbelievable. He should be ashamed of himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    What an idiot. His own daughter not long buried and he's providing references defending the criminal actions of a scumbag towards someone else's daughter.

    Unbelievable. He should be ashamed of himself.

    Do you know what he said in the 'reference'?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Hope the prick goes to jail for a while. Lets see how his "highly regarded" family name serves him behind bars.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    Mickey Harte is an absolute Fool. He thinks he has the right to say who deserves what instead of our own Judical system

    He can fookoff and go away and kiss the queens arse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    sfwcork wrote: »
    Mickey Harte is an absolute Fool. He thinks he has the right to say who deserves what instead of our own Judical system

    He can fookoff and go away and kiss the queens arse

    The giving of references is a normal part of the Judicial system both here and in N.I.
    The giving of a reference is no indication that leinency was sought or the 'crime' was excused in any way. Unless you know the contents of this particular reference how can you infer anything?
    Oh wait...you read the Sindo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Do you know what he said in the 'reference'?

    No, I'm not privy to the contents.

    I would assume if the defence are using it, it paints the defendant in a good light, otherwise he would have given it to the prosecution instead.

    What is your point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    As said, it's the ultra-catholic GAA banjo effect. Anyone who goes to church and is involved with the GAA is regarded as being of "good character" and the community will stand by them regardless.

    Just because his daughter died tragically and he has a decorated GAA career, doesn't mean he's immune to being a moron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Mickey Harte seems to be becoming the Bono of the GAA world. An egotistical mouthpiece who thinks people actually want to listen to his opinions.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    Somehow when somebody gives references at a drop of a hat their credibility is flawed

    The reason the reference is given is to alter the Judge's Opinion of the crime and the person who commited the crime!

    Or did he just throw out a reference for the skit and he doesnt want to alter what the sentence could be?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    defending the criminal actions

    How do you know he did the above?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    people getting carried away about a respected guy giving a character reference

    mickey harte seems to be a dignified religious man and great football manager


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Happyman42 wrote: »

    How do you know he did the above?
    ITT: Lots of hilariously angry people who demonstrably don't understand what it is he did but wont let that stop them shouting very loudly about it on the internet.

    Seriously lads. Arm yizzerselves with the actual facts before you get the torches lit. You're embarrasing yourselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed



    Because he is an egotistical twat!
    Not to forget he was down here a few weeks ago telling us what laws we should have on abortion.
    Didn't he also refuse to take part in RTE after match interviews because he wasn't allowed to decide which commentator would be handling a match!
    Major league muppet!
    The Brian Carty thing went deeper than just Mickey deciding would was commentating.

    I mightn't agree with everything he says, but he's still one of the nicest, most humble men I've ever met.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,181 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    that's ok though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,181 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    tbh wrote: »
    ITT: Lots of hilariously angry people who demonstrably don't understand what it is he did but wont let that stop them shouting very loudly about it on the internet.

    Seriously lads. Arm yizzerselves with the actual facts before you get the torches lit. You're embarrasing yourselves.
    I guess it came from the indo. Can't blame people for reacting to what they read, but i'm guessing there might be more to it than the indo has reported.
    The article was full of "good gaa family" "attend same church" type quotes which is sure to rile people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Rasheed wrote: »
    You were on about 'real GAA men' before. You were full of it then and you're full if it now.

    And how dare you make hints about his daughters murder investigation.
    Why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    Can't blame people for reacting to what they read

    ah ye can. If someone doesn't have the intelligence to figure out that MH was simply telling the court what he knew of the young man, and not trying to claim that he didn't commit the crime or that he should be excused, then they are too stupid to be allowed to use the internet.


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    Posts deleted.

    LivelineDipso banned for trolling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    How do you know he did the above?

    Do you mean did he write "This man was perfectly within his rights to do what he did to that woman. I fully back the decisions he made that night"? I doubt it.

    However, he felt the need to write a character reference for a man who admits sexually assaulting a woman and leaving her half naked on the side of a road. Now, what person in their right mind does that? Especially a man whose own daughter was seriously assaulted (and murdered) not long ago?

    This character reference was written with the intention of either getting a lesser sentence or for receiving bail. Either way, it's a slap in the face for that victim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    that's ok though

    So is giving a character reference for someone in court, and attending protests etc. I don't have an issue with anything he does personally. Just find it amusing that his name pops up so often in relation to these things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    seamus wrote: »
    As said, it's the ultra-catholic GAA banjo effect. Anyone who goes to church and is involved with the GAA is regarded as being of "good character" and the community will stand by them regardless.

    Just because his daughter died tragically and he has a decorated GAA career, doesn't mean he's immune to being a moron.

    Talk about tarring a whole organisation with the same brush.

    I don't know anyone else in the GAA who would support the offender in question.

    Just because Mickey Harte did doesn't mean the GAA as a whole are behind him. I imagine it's quite the oppostie i.e. anyone with a brain cell at all would wish that he went to jail for his actions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Rasheed wrote: »
    The Brian Carty thing went deeper than just Mickey deciding would was commentating.

    I mightn't agree with everything he says, but he's still one of the nicest, most humble men I've ever met.[/QUOTE]

    Take it you are referring to the singer from donegal, the rest of us were taliking about the egotistical pratt that manages Tyrone GAA when he is not coaching Youth Defence!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    GAA-head 'pillar of the community' schmoozer who will one day successfully run for political office because people are idiots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Do you mean did he write "This man was perfectly within his rights to do what he did to that woman. I fully back the decisions he made that night"? I doubt it.

    However, he felt the need to write a character reference for a man who admits sexually assaulting a woman and leaving her half naked on the side of a road. Now, what person in their right mind does that? Especially a man whose own daughter was seriously assaulted (and murdered) not long ago?

    This character reference was written with the intention of either getting a lesser sentence or for receiving bail. Either way, it's a slap in the face for that victim.

    You have no idea what he wrote, yet you leap, like all internet ranters and warriors, to the conclusion that he 'defended' the actions of this man.
    You leap to the conclusion that he has nothing in his heart but hate and revenge for the killers of his daughter.
    Maybe he is a very christian man as a result of his 'real' experiences and maybe he thinks he can help this man in his redemptive process? Maybe he feels that this man's family supported him at his time of crisis.
    I don't know what his motives are, but I have enough charity in my heart to wait until I know the contents of the 'reference' before I aid and abett the Sindo in one of it's sly assassinations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    You have no idea what he wrote, yet you leap, like all internet ranters and warriors, to the conclusion that he 'defended' the actions of this man.
    You leap to the conclusion that he has nothing in his heart but hate and revenge for the killers of his daughter.
    Maybe he is a very christian man as a result of his 'real' experiences and maybe he thinks he can help this man in his redemptive process? Maybe he feels that this man's family supported him at his time of crisis.
    I don't know what his motives are, but I have enough charity in my heart to wait until I know the contents of the 'reference' before I aid and abett the Sindo in one of it's sly assassinations.

    Were did I say that?

    If he is such a good christian man, I would hope as well as providing character references for the self-confessed assailant, he has provided support for the victim of his crime in her time of crisis too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Mickey Harte is everything modern Ireland hates. Irish republican, god fearing, humble, a man who shuns the limelight and the money he could make from it. A more honest and decent man you could not meet.

    I shouldn't be surprised Independent newspapers and the usual "useful fools" you'll find in Ireland have something against him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Rasheed wrote: »
    The Brian Carty thing went deeper than just Mickey deciding would was commentating.

    I mightn't agree with everything he says, but he's still one of the nicest, most humble men I've ever met.

    Take it you are referring to the singer from donegal, the rest of us were taliking about the egotistical pratt that manages Tyrone GAA when he is not coaching Youth Defence!

    No, I'm taking about the same Mickey Harte as everyone else. I've met him a few times and as I've said, I mightn't agree with everything he says or stands for, but he was a great help to me and I found him to be a lovely man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    kraggy wrote: »
    Talk about tarring a whole organisation with the same brush.
    Talk about a knee-jerk reaction.

    I never said that the organisation stood behind it at all.

    It's a phenomenon in rural communities that revolve around GAA that if you go to mass and help out with the club, you're a saint who can do no wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    golfball37 wrote: »
    Mickey Harte is everything modern Ireland hates. Irish republican, god fearing, humble, a man who shuns the limelight and the money he could make from it. A more honest and decent man you could not meet.

    I shouldn't be surprised Independent newspapers and the usual "useful fools" you'll find in Ireland have something against him.
    ya
    where are people getting all these ideas about mickey harte

    he showed great dignity and character after his daughters murder

    is he arrogant or motivated by money and political ambition-i doubt it


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    Happyman why did he write the reference note for these case and others? Why in your opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,035 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    RikkFlair wrote: »
    The world!

    How could you forget the lyrics to that unforgettable piece of music history! :eek:
    recyclebin wrote: »
    fixed that for ya
    It was a test...

    .. ye failed!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Why?
    Wiley, ffs, the poster hinted that because the woman's husband and father are 'Real GAA men', the case needs to be looked at again. As if they were somehow involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Were did I say that?

    If he is such a good christian man, I would hope as well as providing character references for the self-confessed assailant, he has provided support for the victim of his crime in her time of crisis too.

    You inferred it by dictating how he should feel about the man at the centre of this.

    How do you know what approaches he has made to the victim and her family? Are you waiting for the Sindo to tell you that as well?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    seamus wrote: »
    Talk about a knee-jerk reaction.

    I never said that the organisation stood behind it at all.

    It's a phenomenon in rural communities that revolve around GAA that if you go to mass and help out with the club, you're a saint who can do no wrong.

    You said that "the community will stand by them regardless".

    That is simply not true. The GAA get around and support each other when someones been in an accident or someone's died etc. I can't think of a single instance when the GAA stood by a criminal whether as an organisation en masse, or a smaller section of it in a particular county.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    golfball37 wrote: »
    Mickey Harte is everything modern Ireland hates. Irish republican, god fearing, humble, a man who shuns the limelight and the money he could make from it. A more honest and decent man you could not meet.

    I shouldn't be surprised Independent newspapers and the usual "useful fools" you'll find in Ireland have something against him.

    Phew, for a moment I was almost feeling homesick :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    kraggy wrote: »
    You said that "the community will stand by them regardless".
    What gave you the impression that I was talking about the GAA organisation? Clearly I was referring to the local community.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    golfball37 wrote: »
    Mickey Harte is everything modern Ireland hates. Irish republican, god fearing, humble, a man who shuns the limelight and the money he could make from it. A more honest and decent man you could not meet.

    I shouldn't be surprised Independent newspapers and the usual "useful fools" you'll find in Ireland have something against him.


    When he came down south here to do a gaa talk he had no bother asking for money


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    seamus wrote: »
    What gave you the impression that I was talking about the GAA organisation? Clearly I was referring to the local community.

    You mentioned the GAA in your first 2 sentences. Are you seriously going to try and cover your arse now and say that you were talking about the community in general and not the GAA?

    I especially find it impossible to believe that considering your GAA/banjo insulting reference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    seamus wrote: »
    Talk about a knee-jerk reaction.

    I never said that the organisation stood behind it at all.

    It's a phenomenon in rural communities that revolve around GAA that if you go to mass and help out with the club, you're a saint who can do no wrong.
    Seamus that's bollox to be honest. I've never seen/ heard anyone in my community or communities near us that some involved the the aforementioned things, immune to being punished for wrong doing.

    Yeah, you might be supported through shiite but nobody is going to shield you if you did wrong.


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