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The Tipperary GAA (Club and intercounty) Discussion thread 2014

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    Xenophile wrote: »
    Very poor out of Tipperary only two goals against Kerry, does not give any hope for the rest of the year unless we start learning how to score a few goals (see my post above).

    Wouldn't exactly hit the alarm buttons just yet now to be fair.

    Waterford Crystal cup is a mere warm-up tournament in order to shake off the winter cobwebs. Matter of fact the league cant be read too much into either.
    The same teams who played each other in the relegation final last year treated us to a 2 fantastic spectacles of hurling in the All Ireland final and replay September gone so we'd be foolish to over-analyse it. The main priorities of the league would be to remain in the division first and foremost and get as many games out of it as possible (certainly from a season ticket holder point of view :D)

    To be honest id prefer a Tipp team that's able to score one more point then their opponents and grind out a win then the free flowing goal getters we were in 2011 that bombed in the final when teams copped on how to close down the space.


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    yeah way to early for that and seriously sunday was not a day for hurling.any team would have struggled to get goals sunday.ball couldnt be struck that far,pitch was very heavy and mucky underneath the players feet and players were constantly slipping all that wit a gale force rain beating against your face.on a dry day we would have scored more goals no doubt.yeah saint,mickey or brendan maher are the top 3 candidates but ive no hassle with bren maher being captain he plays every game like its an all ireland final and to comeback from that injury and terrible season he had is a credit to him worthy captain imo but cahill and saint would be fine choices also.mickey cahill had a great sunday seemed to really enjoy himself in there but if hes being considered as an option there he would need to be tested against much harder opponents.really like him and saint as corner backs two serious operators there with maybe o mahoney at full back has the makings of a serious full back line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    I think this is Conor Kenny's third game in a row for us. He transferred down from Kildare and was said to have talent and potential. Any word on him?

    Good big strong guy who is very effective in the air, his hurling does seem a little slow at times, not sure whether that is from hurling a much lower level or not but certainly oine of the more interesting additions.
    Xenophile wrote: »
    Very poor out of Tipperary only two goals against Kerry, does not give any hope for the rest of the year unless we start learning how to score a few goals (see my post above).

    Tipp traveled down to Kerry on Saturday and trained 3 times before the game, which itself was played in monsoon like conditions, the game and the scoreline are largely irrelevant, Shane McGraths continued resurgence in his new role and Michael Cahills performance been the obvious highlights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭Paddico


    U-21 footballers lost badly to Meath.
    Anyone know what the team was?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Paddico wrote: »
    U-21 footballers lost badly to Meath.
    Anyone know what the team was?
    lost 0-14 to 0-8. 6 points isnt that bad.

    Check the tipp website. is very good now and should have teams, match reports etc up most weeks for intercounty matches

    Tipperary, Gearoid Slattery (Cashel KC), Niall O’Sullivan (Moycarkey Borris), John Meagher (Loughmore/Castleiney), Conor O’Sullivan (Galtee Rovers); Jack Loughnane (Silvermines), Tom Meade (Moyne Templetuohy), Bill Maher (Kilsheelan Kilcash) 0-1; John McGrath (Loughmore /Castleiney) 0-3 frees, Paul Shanahan (Upperchurch Drombane); Jason Lonergan (Clonmel Comms) 0-1, Greg Henry (Killenaule), Jamie Moloney (Drom Inch); Conor Kenneally (Moyle Rvs), Josh Keane (Golden/Kilfeacle), Sean Flynn (Fr Sheehys) 0-2
    Subs, Kevin Fahey (Clonmel Comms) for Paul Shanahan, Michael Quinlivan 0-1 (Clonmel Comms) for Josh Keane, Dean McEnroe (JKBrackens) for Conor Kenneally , Colman Kennedy (Clonmel Comms) for Jamie Moloney. Shane Hassett (Drom Inch), Pierce Richardson (Arravale Rvs), Liam Casey (Cahir), Oisin Flynn (Ardfinnan).


  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    lost 0-14 to 0-8. 6 points isnt that bad.

    Check the tipp website. is very good now and should have teams, match reports etc up most weeks for intercounty matches

    Tipperary, Gearoid Slattery (Cashel KC), Niall O’Sullivan (Moycarkey Borris), John Meagher (Loughmore/Castleiney), Conor O’Sullivan (Galtee Rovers); Jack Loughnane (Silvermines), Tom Meade (Moyne Templetuohy), Bill Maher (Kilsheelan Kilcash) 0-1; John McGrath (Loughmore /Castleiney) 0-3 frees, Paul Shanahan (Upperchurch Drombane); Jason Lonergan (Clonmel Comms) 0-1, Greg Henry (Killenaule), Jamie Moloney (Drom Inch); Conor Kenneally (Moyle Rvs), Josh Keane (Golden/Kilfeacle), Sean Flynn (Fr Sheehys) 0-2
    Subs, Kevin Fahey (Clonmel Comms) for Paul Shanahan, Michael Quinlivan 0-1 (Clonmel Comms) for Josh Keane, Dean McEnroe (JKBrackens) for Conor Kenneally , Colman Kennedy (Clonmel Comms) for Jamie Moloney. Shane Hassett (Drom Inch), Pierce Richardson (Arravale Rvs), Liam Casey (Cahir), Oisin Flynn (Ardfinnan).

    Decent team , but were missing Steven O`Brien , Liam McGrath and Colin O`Riordan , plus Kevin Fahey , Michael Quinlivan , Dean McEnroe and Colman Kennedy came on when we were well behind . David Power is giving Squad players a chance , come the Championship there will be a very strong team out , remember we didn`t go too well in the Leinster Minor League in 2011 and look at where we ended up !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Jack Loughnane (Silvermines).

    Second time in the Hastings Cup they have put Loughnane down as been a mines man when he is from Kildangan, not as if we get too many lads playing county like :D


  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    West Championship draws tonight , will let you know when I hear them .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    West Championship draws tonight , will let you know when I hear them .

    AFAIK the North hurling has been postponed a week, was due tonight aswell, but with teh county championship draws been cancelled last Monday due to the ongoing dispute over Aherlow/Lattin I assume the North will wait - 14 teams in the North Hurling so they will need to know exactly what dates the County Championship are on to fit in all the games.

    Then again that would be the logical course of action so you can probably ignore it :D


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  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    West SHC :

    (A) Cappawhite v Clonoulty

    (B)Eire Og v Loser of (A)

    (C) Kickhams v Cashel

    (D) Loser of B v Loser of C - Winners to semis .

    West Senior Football , U21A Football , Intermediate Hurling and Junior draws did not take place !


  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    Mid Tipperary Senior Football :

    Semi Finals

    Loughmore-Castleiney V JK Brackens

    Moycarkey Borris V Moyne-Templetuohy .

    Mid Tipperary Senior Hurling :

    Round 1
    A Drom-Inch V Boherlahan Dualla

    B Holycross-Ballycahill V JK Brackens

    C Thurles Sarsfields V Upperchurch-Drombane

    D Loughmore-Castleiney C Moycarkey Borris

    The winners of games C & D qualify straight into semi finals
    The winners of games A & B play the winners of the two losers games in the Quarter Finals

    Losers Group
    Loser A V Loser C
    Loser B V Loser D

    Open Draw in semi finals


  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    Mid Tipperary Under 21 A Football :

    Preliminary Round

    JK Brackens V Drom-Inch

    Round 1

    Prelim Loser V Moycarkey Borris

    Holycross-Ballycahill V Loughmore-Castleiney

    Preliminary Round Winner along with the two Round 1 winners qualify for the semi Finals where they will be joined by the winner of the Losers Group


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    The format for the North Hurling was decided but no draw made, its a bit on the confusing side but it will only take 6 rounds/weeks and every team is guaranteed 2 games so I guess it serves its purpose.

    Round 1 - 14 teams open draw
    Round 2 - 7 winners from R1 paired against 7 loosers from R1

    At this stage any team having lost both are eliminated and any team having won both are through to the QF

    Round 3 - If required any teams who won one and lost one play off for a place in the QF

    Round 4 - QF
    Round 5 - SF
    Round 6 - Final.


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    who would be favs for the hurling county title.i would be far from an expert on the club hurling scene but from what i know id imagine it would be between sars, loughmore and drom and inch.thoughts anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    buggy beag wrote: »
    who would be favs for the hurling county title.i would be far from an expert on the club hurling scene but from what i know id imagine it would be between sars, loughmore and drom and inch.thoughts anyone?

    Those three will be the three favs alright, Sars will be outright favs and one would imagine after the kick in the hole they got last year they will be determined to bounce back.

    Nenagh, Clonoulty and Kildangan would be the three at the next level imo, all well capable of beating any of the top three, just a question of whether they can beat a few of them on the bounce.

    Sars to win and Kildangan as a dark horse imo. Loughmore will struggle after their exertions last year and they have an incredibly small panel, Connolly will be a huge loss, Kennedy and Webster may retire and I've heard rumours Tom King may retire although I would fully expect him to return before the business end of the year.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    buggy beag wrote: »
    who would be favs for the hurling county title.i would be far from an expert on the club hurling scene but from what i know id imagine it would be between sars, loughmore and drom and inch.thoughts anyone?

    Paddy Power has it as :

    Thurles Sarsfields 6/4
    Drom/Inch 3/1
    Loughmore 11/2
    Clonoulty 8/1
    Nenagh 11/1
    Borrisileigh 14/1
    Toomevara 18/1
    Kildangan 18/1
    Templederry 20/1
    Killenaule 20/1


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    I think this is Conor Kenny's third game in a row for us. He transferred down from Kildare and was said to have talent and potential. Any word on him?


    Not a fan of Kenny. Has potential alright but i really doubt his application and attitude if im being honest.


  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    Good win for the Under 21`s over Mayo , missing a good few first choice players again . 1-3 from Colin O’Riordan from midfield is impressive . The Silvermines man was missing this week :D .
    Really looking forward to the start of the NFL next Sunday hopefully we can get promoted this year .

    Gearoid Slattery (Cashel KC), Niall O’Sullivan (Moycarkey Borris), John Meagher (Loughmore/Castleiney) Capt, Conor O’Sullivan (Galtee Rvs), Adrian McGuire (Kilsheelan/Kilcash), Kevin Fahey (Clonmel Comms), Tom Meade (Moyne/Templetuohy), Stephen O’Brien (Ballina) 0-2 (1free), Colin O’Riordan (JK Brackens) 1-3, Liam Casey (Cahir) 0-1, John McGrath (Loughmore/Castleiney), Sean Flynn (Fr Sheehys) 0-3 ( 0-2 frees), Paul Shanahan (Upperchurch/Dtrombane) 0-1, Mark Russell (Lattin/Cullen), Dean McEnroe (JK Brackens) 1-0 .

    Subs. Adrian), Shane Hassett (Drom/Inch), Josh Keane (Golden/Kilfeacle) for Dean McEnroe, Pierce Richardson (Arravale Rvs) for Adrian McGuire, Ed O’Meara (Aherlow) for Tom Meade, Jamie Moloney (Drom/Inch for Paul Shanahan .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭tippspur


    I see Colin O Riordan got 1-3,he's a great prospect for Tipp in Football and Hurling but we could lose him to aussie rules because he has been picked for trials over in London,shame if he goes but at the same time you can't blame any lad for making a living out of his talents if he can.


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    tippspur wrote: »
    I see Colin O Riordan got 1-3,he's a great prospect for Tipp in Football and Hurling but we could lose him to aussie rules because he has been picked for trials over in London,shame if he goes but at the same time you can't blame any lad for making a living out of his talents if he can.

    Would be worse then losing Shane Long in my opinion. I wish Colm well either way but i hope the county board can somehow support this aboslute gem of a player in any way they can. I really believe this kid is going to be an incredible talent


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    My brother was digging through some old stuff in his room and came across match programmes from 2002. I had a leaf through (2002 Munster semi-final; Tipperary v. Limerick) and stopped on the primary school game (you know the games they play at half time) and came across a certain 'Niall McGrath' from Loughmore National School. 'That couldn't be right' I thought to myself and went up to put the face to the name and sure enough, there's a smiling blonde-haired young fella staring back at me, Noel McGrath as a young lad. Jump forward seven years to 2009 and he's making his debut with the senior team.

    The Tipperary primary schools played the Limerick team and on that squad side-by-side were Paul Browne and Conor Allis. Both now feature regularly on the Limerick senior team.

    It's remarkable how these guys went from playing in small primary school games before the resumption of the senior games and then went on to replicate their heroes and play at the highest possible level for their counties.

    It leads me to wonder what other future All-Star/young hurler of the year/brilliant talent/all of the above we've seen in the last couple of years but we won't know for another while yet.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    My brother was digging through some old stuff in his room and came across match programmes from 2002. I had a leaf through (2002 Munster semi-final; Tipperary v. Limerick) and stopped on the primary school game (you know the games they play at half time) and came across a certain 'Niall McGrath' from Loughmore National School. 'That couldn't be right' I thought to myself and went up to put the face to the name and sure enough, there's a smiling blonde-haired young fella staring back at me, Noel McGrath as a young lad. Jump forward seven years to 2009 and he's making his debut with the senior team.

    The Tipperary primary schools played the Limerick team and on that squad side-by-side were Paul Browne and Conor Allis. Both now feature regularly on the Limerick senior team.

    It's remarkable how these guys went from playing in small primary school games before the resumption of the senior games and then went on to replicate their heroes and play at the highest possible level for their counties.

    It leads me to wonder what other future All-Star/young hurler of the year/brilliant talent/all of the above we've seen in the last couple of years but we won't know for another while yet.

    I have that very programme myself. I think a very young Shane Long gave a match prediction on it on one of the pages :)

    There does be extraordinary skill on display at the Primary games i have to say. Unbelievable technical ability for children.

    I suppose the reason alot of them return down the line with the senior team is perhaps the magnitude of the occasion for them to be playing in a big stadium in front of thousands at half time (even if little notice is taken of it) that coupled with their talent it almost becomes a self fulfilling prophecy for them from that point on to go on and hurl adult level for the county.

    In McGraths case he comes from practically a GAA dynasty above in Loughmore where the previous generation and perhaps further generations were steeped in the GAA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭Paddico


    I see the railway cup fixtures have been announced.
    Have the squads been announced yet?
    Hope the footballers arent buycotting it this year again


  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    Tipp team to play Carlow tomorrow , hopefully the lads can do it this year . They put as much effort in to it as the Hurlers do , they deserve the support of every GAA fan in Tipp !

    1. Paul Fitzgerald Fethard
    2. John Coghlan Moyne Templetuohy
    3. Paddy Codd Killenaule
    4. Andrew Morrissey Galtee Rovers
    5. Ger Mulhare Arravale Rovers
    6. Robbie Kiely Arravale Rovers
    7. Donagh Leahy Arravale Rovers
    8. George Hannigan Shannon Rovers
    9. Peter Acheson Moyle Rovers
    10. Brian Fox Eire Óg Annacarty
    11. Barry Grogan Aherlow
    12. Conal McCullough Clonmel Commercials
    13. Conor Sweeney Ballyporeen
    14. Michael Quinlivan Clonmel Commercials
    15. Philip Austin Borrisokane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    Good luck lads.
    5. Ger Mulhare Arravale Rovers
    6. Robbie Kiely Arravale Rovers
    7. Donagh Leahy Arravale Rovers

    Seldom see that at senior inter-county level. A half back line of players from the same club should mean cohesion and chemistry is there and if they're good enough, a strong line.


  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    Good luck lads.



    Seldom see that at senior inter-county level. A half back line of players from the same club should mean cohesion and chemistry is there and if they're good enough, a strong line.

    Mulhare is new to the Squad , Leahy is very strong and Robbie is dependable . Interesting that Fox has been moved to the Half Forward line , a superb footballer who would get on any Inter County Team , always looks dangerous going forward , I think this is an ideal position for him .


  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    Carlow 1-8 Tipp 2-24 , excellent start to the league . Conor Sweeney was Man of the Match with 1-8 (2f) , rattled the cross bar in the first half and unselfishly laid the ball off to Philly Austin for his goal . Seemly we were very pacey going forward , exciting year ahead !


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Tipperary impressed throughout as they claimed a comfortable 2-24 to 1-08 win over Carlow at Dr Cullen Park.

    The sides were level at 0-02 apiece after five minutes following a Darragh Foley score, but the hosts lost Paul Broderick on a red card and never recovered.

    Tipperary led by 0-12 to 0-04 at half-time, and although Seamus Kinsella netted a 44th minute penalty goal for Carlow to cut the gap to six points, the visitors finished strongly.

    Conor Sweeney (1-08) and Philip Austin (1-01) both netted for Tipperary inside a five-minute spell at the end of the third quarter to pave the way for a 19-point win.

    Great win for Tipp but not let's carried away as you can see from the above Carlow never recovered after a sending off. This time last year Tipp were complacent and as a result missed out on promotion. Having said this, it must be the first time in the history of Tipperary football where they scored 24 points in a game. Keep it up lads and maybe North and Mid fans will go to watch you and support you in Thurles. As I said already it's a mistake to play Waterford in Clonmel, it's a very long journey down from Borrisokane to Clonmel especially at this time of year. Management stand up to the county board and demand your league games be played in Thurles out of respect for our supporters, the team and and the visiting team as Thurles offers better facilities on every level. Sure I expect to get detractors from supporters of the small ball game, but these same supporters have no problem in asking for the New Stand to be opened for an inconsequential hurling game. Time now to get behind our footballers.

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    If anyone can tell me if Tipp footballers ever scored 24 points in a competitive fixture I would be very interested to hear about it. Thank you but I do not expect many replies !

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    tipperary 2 30 ul 22 points great exhibition of point taking in breezy conditions and 2 great goals.ul were poor enough but alot of that was to do with tipps sharpness and closing down.buubles was lethal from the dead ball.blessed we are with cracking free takers.callanan went off injured,shame because he was having a good game.rocky had a great game again looks to be getting his confidence back and bren maher when he came on was top notch as usual and mickey cahill had a great game fine hurler he is.will the final be on in clare this year id imagine so but hope not.:D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Conelan


    According to munster gaa website Waterford Crystal final set for Sixmilebridge at 7.30 next Fri night. Had promised my young fella we'd go but didn't realise this would be the time or location. Was never at a match in Sixmilebridge. What would the place be like for parking? I'd imagine this game would draw a fair crowd. The forecast for Fri night isn't looking good either!


  • Site Banned Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Spirit of 67


    Xenophile wrote: »
    Tipperary impressed throughout as they claimed a comfortable 2-24 to 1-08 win over Carlow at Dr Cullen Park.

    The sides were level at 0-02 apiece after five minutes following a Darragh Foley score, but the hosts lost Paul Broderick on a red card and never recovered.

    Tipperary led by 0-12 to 0-04 at half-time, and although Seamus Kinsella netted a 44th minute penalty goal for Carlow to cut the gap to six points, the visitors finished strongly.

    Conor Sweeney (1-08) and Philip Austin (1-01) both netted for Tipperary inside a five-minute spell at the end of the third quarter to pave the way for a 19-point win.

    Great win for Tipp but not let's carried away as you can see from the above Carlow never recovered after a sending off. This time last year Tipp were complacent and as a result missed out on promotion. Having said this, it must be the first time in the history of Tipperary football where they scored 24 points in a game. Keep it up lads and maybe North and Mid fans will go to watch you and support you in Thurles. As I said already it's a mistake to play Waterford in Clonmel, it's a very long journey down from Borrisokane to Clonmel especially at this time of year. Management stand up to the county board and demand your league games be played in Thurles out of respect for our supporters, the team and and the visiting team as Thurles offers better facilities on every level. Sure I expect to get detractors from supporters of the small ball game, but these same supporters have no problem in asking for the New Stand to be opened for an inconsequential hurling game. Time now to get behind our footballers.

    I wouldn`t say we were complacent , just over doing the training , seemingly the players we doing weight training sessions before the game against Carlow and the teams they were playing in the McGrath Cup games last year . This is something Peter Creedon has acknowledged himself and they have taken a different route this year . Tipp were well in control against Carlow in the first League game last year but despite playing against 14 men in the second half they looked tired .
    Your right about the games being played in Thurles .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 562 ✭✭✭Comordha


    Bubbles racking up some impressive scoring tallies so far this year. He's a big prospect for the hurlers in the year ahead. Seems to be a handy free taker too which is good as Callanan was a bit hit and miss.


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    Comordha wrote: »
    Bubbles racking up some impressive scoring tallies so far this year. He's a big prospect for the hurlers in the year ahead. Seems to be a handy free taker too which is good as Callanan was a bit hit and miss.

    Bubbles was very good in the Championship last year and has that leadership and tenacity we badly need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    Bubbles was very good in the Championship last year and has that leadership and tenacity we badly need.

    He grew a lot last year I feel. Really nice hurler.

    Does anyone know how long Saint is out for? Really disappointed for him as he has no luck with injuries


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    Tipperary Senior championship group stage drawn tonight.

    http://tipperary.gaa.ie/tipperary-senior-hurling-championship-draws-2014/


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    Conelan wrote: »
    According to munster gaa website Waterford Crystal final set for Sixmilebridge at 7.30 next Fri night. Had promised my young fella we'd go but didn't realise this would be the time or location. Was never at a match in Sixmilebridge. What would the place be like for parking? I'd imagine this game would draw a fair crowd. The forecast for Fri night isn't looking good either!

    Na lad was never there myself but will be heading.i was wondering the same as You about parking because ya id say should be nice crowd hope the Weather ain't to bad.tipp to win narrowly tho imo here's hoping Hehe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Tomorrow nights Waterford Crystal final has been moved to Gaelic Grounds. Throw in still at 7.30pm


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Premier View


    Hello guys and girls. I am new, so I will dive in here. Listening to EOS saying they were not focused on the Waterford Crystal Final, was a bit worrying.
    He said they were targeting waterford in the league game. Cant agree with him there. Surely after the last few years we would have lost that , turn it on, turn it off attitude,that we bring to games. Does he think if we go out and get murdered by Clare, we will switch it on against Waterford. Why not talk strong , send out a message, we want to win every match. Surely thats the tone to start the year, with a group of very talented, but not very focused players.Hope I am wrong.


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    Hello guys and girls. I am new, so I will dive in here. Listening to EOS saying they were not focused on the Waterford Crystal Final, was a bit worrying.
    He said they were targeting waterford in the league game. Cant agree with him there. Surely after the last few years we would have lost that , turn it on, turn it off attitude,that we bring to games. Does he think if we go out and get murdered by Clare, we will switch it on against Waterford. Why not talk strong , send out a message, we want to win every match. Surely thats the tone to start the year, with a group of very talented, but not very focused players.Hope I am wrong.

    Personally I wouldn't worry too much this time of year. Sure the 2 relegation finalists contested the All Ireland final last year . WC tournament games are glorified challenge matches. Relax and enjoy the hurling. Save the finger nails come Summertime ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Premier View


    Thanks and of course it is early doors. Still I feel he should remember Clare
    murdered us last year in the Crystal, and it turned out to be a fair indicator of where both teams went. Also Cork were amazing in the first league match and destroyed us. I remember him saying after the Clare Waterford Crystal match, we are targeting the Cork match? I dident hear Brian Cody saying they were only interested in the first league match ,they lay down a marker from game one. I do agree with you its early, but it is a big year for management as well as players, our selectors were a mixed bag last year. I hope they are not going to do the usual, we thought after the League Final, they had something up their sleeve, and we would turn it on in the Championship. Turned out they had nothing at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Thanks and of course it is early doors. Still I feel he should remember Clare
    murdered us last year in the Crystal, and it turned out to be a fair indicator of where both teams went. Also Cork were amazing in the first league match and destroyed us. I remember him saying after the Clare Waterford Crystal match, we are targeting the Cork match? I dident hear Brian Cody saying they were only interested in the first league match ,they lay down a marker from game one. I do agree with you its early, but it is a big year for management as well as players, our selectors were a mixed bag last year. I hope they are not going to do the usual, we thought after the League Final, they had something up their sleeve, and we would turn it on in the Championship. Turned out they had nothing at all.

    KK lost their opening two league games last year and had an equally dissapointing championship as Tipp :confused:

    Plus do you really think that what the management say to the press is the same as what is said behind closed doors? Having attended most of the games played so far this year I can assure you Tipp are miles ahead of where they were 12 months ago and that can only be a good thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Premier View


    Thanks great post. Still I would not get carried away with how they are going in training. They were flying in training before the ill-fated All-Ireland Semi-Final against KK. They were then beaten by a cricket score. Tipperary tend to flatter to deceive. Davy Fitz is not afraid to call it as he sees it to the press. O'Shea may well be doing the cloak and dagger approach, A lot of Managers and players throw out the usual boring sound bites. While its a new season, signs are not much has changed. No much new blood, which is amazing to be honest. Shane Mc Grath persisted with, I would advise caution to the Tipp faithful, we normally end up being short changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Thanks great post. Still I would not get carried away with how they are going in training. They were flying in training before the ill-fated All-Ireland Semi-Final against KK. They were then beaten by a cricket score. Tipperary tend to flatter to deceive. Davy Fitz is not afraid to call it as he sees it to the press. O'Shea may well be doing the cloak and dagger approach, A lot of Managers and players throw out the usual boring sound bites. While its a new season, signs are not much has changed. No much new blood, which is amazing to be honest. Shane Mc Grath persisted with, I would advise caution to the Tipp faithful, we normally end up being short changed.

    Shane McGrath has been converted to wingback and has been Tipps outstanding player in everygame so far this year, he simply no longer had the engine required for midfield and his confidence also suffered as a result of his poor form and frustration, I would have culled him from the panel on the back of 2012 and 2013 but to be fair to O'Shea McGrath has been superb thus far.

    The were flying in training in 2012 that is evidenced by the hammering they gave Waterford in the Munster Final, 35 mins against KK ( remember there was a single point in it at HT) does not change that, yes it was a new low for Tipp but we need to move on from that.

    I wouldn't be putting Davy up there on any pedestal either, his CV prior to last year was extremly hit and miss, with alot more of the latter, he inherited the most talented group of players ever to appear in Clare, a blank cheque book, a nice handy route (that they nearly fcuked up against Wexford) and they still were extremely lucky to overcome a very average Cork team despite being clearly superior.

    I have noticed the past week a number of Tipp fans referencing last years Waterford Crystal final as some sort of seminal moment and how it was very clear all was doomed in Tipp and that was where Clare put their marker down, but fail to reference the league game a couple of months later where we handed them their ars*s on a plate?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Premier View


    Agreed. You tend to read into what bears out you own argument. We did indeed hammer them in the league, it was strange the path both teams went on after that. We went on to the final, and they had to contest a relegation play-off!
    The path to an All-Ireland seemed a long way off for the Banner there. It could be it was one of those years, where events conspired to down Kilkenny and Tipp. I pray that was the case. I think it was a golden opportunity lost for us though, we had been knocking on the door for a few years, and if we had of beaten the Cats; i think it was ours for the taking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Agreed. You tend to read into what bears out you own argument. We did indeed hammer them in the league, it was strange the path both teams went on after that. We went on to the final, and they had to contest a relegation play-off!
    The path to an All-Ireland seemed a long way off for the Banner there. It could be it was one of those years, where events conspired to down Kilkenny and Tipp. I pray that was the case. I think it was a golden opportunity lost for us though, we had been knocking on the door for a few years, and if we had of beaten the Cats; i think it was ours for the taking.

    Agreed and I still maintain that if Lar had not have come off injured we would have won that game, and I go as far as saying a litlle comfortably, he had Murphy in all sorts of bother, and look at Murphy's performance after Lar came off, he was the match winner for the cats.

    That was a desperately unlucky draw aswell, I firmly believe if we had gotten Clares draw and were allowed to build momentum like they were we were more than capable of being champions, but of course we should never have been in that position, the defeat to Limerick having foutght back to lead was inexcusible.

    All will be revealed in the coming months and I for one can't bloody wait :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    Clare 3 05 tipp 1 10 half time attendence 1248 tipp started da better clare finished da half da stronger


  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭buggy beag


    Tipp 4 16 clare 3 09


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    Considering the strength of both teams out tonight that's a fantastic return from a very very experimental Tipp team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Ompala


    Not getting carried away given its only February but great win by the lads tonight.
    For anyone at the match any stand out performances? Sounds like Denis Maher had a stormer.


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