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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    The careening went ok
    I brought her in’ about an hour before high tide, and tied her off.
    While waiting for the tide to drop’ I went around and cleaned as mush as I could.
    It was just as well I did, as I was standing in water’ giving her a few final touches by the time I was finished.
    I was maybe a hour and a half before high tide before I reversed her out
    I still have aches and pains’ from muscles’ I didn’t even know I had.:o
    what a dirty job
    Its just as well I will only be doing this once a year:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    I also fitted a lazy jacks system
    I first fitted the line to the lower spreader this was a waste off time.
    So I had to run it to the top spreader this made a lot of difference.
    Up and down the mast a dozen or more times; was exciting since she is on a swinging mooring.
    I had to make quite a few adjustments’ before I got things working, and I have no dought I will make some more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Evening all
    Have been working away with the lazy jack system.
    The first effort, while it worked great when I dropped the sail; every so often it would catch the batons when hoisting the mainsail.
    When not in use’ I would have to leave it set up; as there was lines everywhere, if I took it down .
    The next system I tried; is a folding system; the same amount of lines’ while hoisted, just a little further back. It makes use of three stainless steel rings either side of the sail there’s much less friction
    I got 60 metres of 5mm Para cord on the net 25euro.
    While it’s to stretchy it will have to do for now I will change it over time.
    This worked out quite well, it will still need a few tweaks’ here and there, before I am satisfied.
    It allows me to lower the control lines, when I need to fit the sail cover’ or while hoisting the sail .
    A quick pull on the control lines, sets it up for when I need to drop the mainsail’ it is much tidier than my first effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Evening all
    I had an exciting weekend
    I tried out the lazy jack system in anger
    I was out Friday’ after sailing to the Sovereigns just outside Kinsale; I returned to Chrosshaven
    Just off fort Camdon’ a boat came across me blowing a horn .
    Since I am fairly new to this; I came about.
    It turned out he was looking for a TOW and me in full sail.:eek:
    .
    Anyway to make a long storey even longer; I tried to furl the head sail even though the wind was to high,
    I had to use a winch; something I had been told not to do; I got it in most of the way in and then lowered the mainsail. The lazy jacks worked a treat.
    All this was done in a bit of a hurry.
    I got back into the cockpit’ only to hear a mighty crack; the forestay had snapped, and the furling gear forestay and everything attached; lashed the mast’ right where I was standing only moments before .
    Panic stations; the Genoa had unfurled and spread across the spreaders’ furling drum swinging wildly,
    And sheets in the water ’ backstays flapping around as well. Ohh s***t this is all I need.:(
    I had a quick look around to see how much room I had to work with; tide had turned, and I was being pushed in the harbour’ so no worries’ there as long as I kept an eye on things.
    With the furling drum flying around the place’ I need somehow to secure this; as if I got a slap of that then lights out.
    I managed to tie it down somewhat .
    Next thing try and save the mast as by this time; I could see that it was leaning well back .
    I had a spear halyard set up since day one; and I used this to secure it to the bow cleat’ and winched the mast forward enough’ to take some of the strain off the lower shrouds.
    Pulled in the sheets and tried to secure as much of the Genoa as I could, it was still caught up it the spreaders flapping and making a hell of a racket.
    All this done; I made my way into Chrosshaven at 1 ½ half to 2 knots’ the Genoa acting like a wind break.
    My plan was to drop the anchor’ as soon as I was in the wind shadow of curraghbinny headland.
    As I made my way towards this headland; I decided I was closer to a mooring then the anchor spot; so I went for this; about ten to fifteen metres from the mooring’ I promptly went aground and stuck in the mud .
    I could not have got stuck in a better place’ out of the wind and stable not swinging around the place; how lucky can I get.
    I took down the Genoa and secured the mast properly .
    I made myself a cup of Coffey and had a Fag; and I could not tell if I was either very unlucky’ or blessed with luck, as I intend to sail around Ireland starting next week . Better something like this happens now then if I am off shore.
    So Tuesday I bought a new forestay 7/16 316 8mm wire and fitted it and repaired the other shrouds so all ready to go :D
    Ohh your man passed me as I was stuck in the mud not even a wave :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Not to sure what’s happening with the spelling since I am dyslexic I have to use a word processor every time I Wright; when I copy and past everything looked ok:)


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Yep better now than on your big trip, dyslexic myself we weren't given a good brain so we got good hands instead :D





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    copper12 wrote: »
    Not to sure what’s happening with the spelling since I am dyslexic I have to use a word processor every time I Wright; when I copy and past everything looked ok:)
    So we are all in the same boat, try opening up note pad, cut and paste from word to it then from notepad into boards, it will clean up all the font stuff.

    Or don't bother use fire fox and enable spell checking it should catch most stuff.

    How did you get off the mud?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    i had another cup of coffey and a fag and chilled what else could i do while i waited for the tide :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    copper12 wrote: »
    i had another cup of coffey and a fag and chilled what else could i do while i waited for the tide :)

    do you not keeps some jammie dodgers on the boat too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    copper12 wrote: »
    .......Anyway to make a long storey even longer; I tried to furl the head sail even though the wind was to high, I had to use a winch; something I had been told not to do........

    Hi Copper,
    Glad you and Ceo are well and survived without too much damage. You were lucky not to lose the mast. The ‘event’ is odd……. the furler is for when the wind is high, there should not be any need for a winch if the genoa sheet is free. Something got fouled….
    Two things –firstly, I wonder did the deck fitting/turnbuckle simply unscrew because it was not wired up?
    Secondly, if the forestay did ‘snap’ did you have the correct set-up? The genoa should be reefed in the same direction as the direction the strands turn on the forestay. Check that the rotation of the drum is correct for the lay of the wire / forestay – you need right hand lay if the drum turns clockwise. If you have a left hand lay wire and a clockwise rotation the wire will open up under pressure (especially if using a winch :eek:) when the drum spins and this will reduce the strength of the wire. When that happens it usually breaks just above the crimp.
    Best of luck for the voyage,
    P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Jammy dodgers none ginger nut biscuits’ plenty
    Pedro you are probably right about the forestay
    This time when I put it under any pressure it will turn in the direction of the lay of the wire
    I have made up a boom vang I will try it out over the weekend
    I must also make up a boom break after looking online I nearly had a hart attack over the price
    £350 for a piece of plastic :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    copper12- I know nothing about boats. But I'm enjoying your thread/Journey with this project. Thanks for keeping it going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    copper12 wrote: »
    Pedro you are probably right about the forestay
    This time when I put it under any pressure it will turn in the direction of the lay of the wire
    You were not the first and certainly will not be the last to miss that!
    copper12 wrote: »
    £350 for a piece of plastic :eek:
    Cheap for boaty plastic! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    I got the smartrooler working ok now it seems I had the drum turning the wrong way and this led to the forestay breaking .
    It’s a bit temperamental if I have the sail to tight then it wont furl properly .
    I’ve convinced myself that I need a boom break however since I properly wont be using it to often.
    I wait and see if I can come across something that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg.
    On of the mountain climbing shop should have something.
    In the mean time I tried out a couple of things I had lying about
    The first effort kind of worked if the steel was more rounded it would have offered less resistance.
    The second effort worked a treat :D it can be set up fairly quickly.:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Disaster
    I went out for a final shakedown yesterday evening
    I’m to upset to say anymore


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    My sailing knowledge is primarily from Patrick O Brien books. Is that the main mast or part of a foresail or similar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    Commiserations Copper. Hopefully you are uninjured.
    beauf wrote: »
    My sailing knowledge is primarily from Patrick O Brien books. Is that the main mast or part of a foresail or similar.
    It is a series of photos showing the aftermath of a dismasting. The shrouds are not attached to the bottlescrews/turnbuckles holding up the mast. The mast is no longer there, as indicated by the empty mast-step (image2). The damage to the toe-rail is not a good sign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    ****.

    Bad luck mate. Don't know what else to say without sounding trite and making you feel worse than you probably already do.

    But better that it happened yesterday than halfway up the Atlantic coast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    Hope you are OK where you able to save the mast, if it's any help saw one suitable for a 26 ft boat on donedeal or adverts with a boom and sails. Get on to your insurance and see what they say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Some good news
    I got the mast back
    While there’s some minor damage there’s nothing that I cannot repair
    I even got the sails back undamaged I had cut the foot of each louse so they would move freely maybe this helped save them
    So news shrouds and fittings and I should be good to go hopefully:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    thanks for all your comments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    You're a braver man than me (then again I'm not a man!) - if it were me I'd be considering taking up bridge or tiddlywinks at this stage :D

    Have you identified what exactly failed to bring the mast down?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Rum all round....!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭JamesM


    It's terrible when that happens - an awful feeling. Am I correct in thinking that the forestay, foil, or furler failed and the mast came down. You then cut away the rigging to get the mast safely on board. At least you have all the bits and can re-rig. After all you have done over the past few years, you will pick yourself up and be back in action in no time.
    Jim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Having had time for reflection
    There’s no one reason the mast came down
    Mostly it’s down to my inexperience
    Bas sail choice
    Bad tactics
    Bad luck
    I could write a book about what happened
    Basically the jib sail was probably to big; I had two reefs in the main.
    She went over and the mast spreaders touched the water’ came back up; only to be knocked down again.
    This time on the way up; the starboard shrouds gave’ maybe because I had just got the jib sail on the winch. I should have immediately left go the sheet. It may or may not have made a difference.
    I have a fair idly as to why it happened; I just cant seem to express it, but it’s mostly down to my actions.
    We live and learn.
    So back to the mast after stripping it down and checking for damage.
    I have reattached the gooseneck’ strengthened the spreaders’ replaced bolts and added a few more.
    Taken of the forestay’ it is now part of the backstay’ removed all of the electric’s lights wind direction indicator vhf aerial they did not survive the trip to the bottom.
    Removed the mast head and foot and ran one new rope true the mast for the topping lift
    I only lost one rope
    So once I have the new standing rigging sorted; and the new electric’s fitted, I should be good to go.
    Maybe a week or two with luck :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    copper12 wrote: »
    .......So once I have the new standing rigging sorted; and the new electric’s fitted, I should be good to go.
    Maybe a week or two with luck :)

    That’s good news. FWIW in my view the knockdown was a contributor, not the cause. I’d guess that the rigging needed replacement. The forestay had already gone, so the rest probably was an accident waiting to happen. You do not want that where you are going – in my corner of the SW at the moment it’s blowing 3-5 and more in gusts and the ar$e has fallen out of the barometer since last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    It’s been a busy couple of weeks
    The mast is almost ready to be stepped
    I had a bit of trouble sourcing the t-pices
    Finally I have got all eight; the last two today
    I will get them made up tomorrow
    Hopefully by the weekend I will be sailing again or at least have the mast up.

    So far I have repaired the spreaders and the gooseneck’ rewired and fitted a super nova LED tricolour and anchor light.
    Deck and mast head light’ the vhf aerial seemed ok’ so I spliced in the cable; and fitted the wind vane.
    I’ve gone with crimped fittings for the ends of the stays, and shrouds; along with stainless steel open turnbuckles
    Ran a new halyard for the one that was lost; the old ones, I might be able to use a sheets later on,
    Fitted a proper connection for the vang; and lowered one of the steps’ as when up the mast standing on the last two steps, I was waist high with the mast head; now I will be chest high’ much better and safe.
    So the next couple of days I will move her to the pontoon and repair the deck and sort out some of the wiring. Service the engine and anything that needs some attention:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Evening all
    I got the mast up yesterday no real problems except the Crain caught the vhf aerial
    I have to replace it a soon as possible I need to go up the mast anyway as dumbo here fitted the wind vane the wrong way round .:o
    Wired up the electric’s everything works ok anchor light tricolour and deck and streaming light
    I still need to fit four toggles as the originals were to small
    So all in all I should be back sailing during the week if not tomorrow evening depending an how well
    Everything goes when I fit the sails tomorrow :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    copper12 wrote: »
    Evening all
    I got the mast up yesterday no real problems except the Crain caught the vhf aerial
    I have to replace it a soon as possible I need to go up the mast anyway as dumbo here fitted the wind vane the wrong way round .:o
    Wired up the electric’s everything works ok anchor light tricolour and deck and streaming light
    I still need to fit four toggles as the originals were to small
    So all in all I should be back sailing during the week if not tomorrow evening depending an how well
    Everything goes when I fit the sails tomorrow :)

    Keep an eye on the tension of the rigging for a while - new stuff will stretch a bit before it settles down. When you are happy with it make sure to wire up the turnbuckles. Enjoy being back on the water.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Evening all
    Well I turned the wind vane lowering the steps made it easier to work around the mast head
    Fitted the roller drum fitted and raised the mainsail everything seem to work ok
    I have to run one reefing line and that should be the mainsail sorted I was not able to examine the mainsail as it was to blustery I did do some repairs during the week so maybe everything will be ok
    So as soon as the weather improves I take her for a trip around the harbour.


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Great photo.

    mast%20stern_zpsya6vexrv.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    Hi Copper,
    I hope that halliard is not from Lidl.... I was stuck a couple of years ago near the end of the season and used their 'sailing range' for just a few weeks.....absolute zero wearability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Jasus Pedro you don’t miss much :P
    It’s the topping lift; I will be changing it tomorrow along with the guides for the reefing lines
    Fit a few toggles’ to the shrouds and I should be good to go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    copper12 wrote: »
    Jasus Pedro you don’t miss much :P
    It’s the topping lift; I will be changing it tomorrow along with the guides for the reefing lines
    Fit a few toggles’ to the shrouds and I should be good to go

    Better to discover it here than when trying to reef and beat off a lee shore.
    Old F@rts like me are around still because we notice things and have learned by experience to look, observe and not miss things. Lots of people here, including me, are cheering for you Copper. We don’t want to see a relative newbie to sailing going into harm’s way.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    fergal.b wrote: »
    Great photo.

    mast%20stern_zpsya6vexrv.jpg

    i feel dizzy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭JamesM


    Better to discover it here than when trying to reef and beat off a lee shore.
    Old F@rts like me are around still because we notice things and have learned by experience to look, observe and not miss things. Lots of people here, including me, are cheering for you Copper. We don’t want to see a relative newbie to sailing going into harm’s way.:)

    Hope all goes well.
    Talking about harm's way and safety, I'd like to see someone on a winch when looking down from the mast.
    Jim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    JamesM wrote: »
    Hope all goes well.
    Talking about harm's way and safety, I'd like to see someone on a winch when looking down from the mast.
    Jim.
    Copper sails single-handed, hence the steps on the mast. He uses a safety harness...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Quick question based on the straight spreaders: Are there runners and jackstays yet to be attached?

    If not, why?

    As in what's going to keep the mast up downwind with a non swept back rig? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Pete67


    I think I see a back stay? I also thought the spreader angle was unusual though, more common to see them swept aft somewhat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Pete67 wrote: »
    I think I see a back stay?
    Was just going to post the same!

    There's definitely something running down to the transom.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Pete67 wrote: »
    I think I see a back stay? I also thought the spreader angle was unusual though, more common to see them swept aft somewhat.

    Non swept back spreaders are common enough in the IOR 'tonner' rigs but they all need runners and / or jackstays to keep the mast up. Not really single hand friendly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭JamesM


    I have straight spreaders and twin backstays. You do not need runners unless you have a pronounced roach on the mainsail. I think that you can also see lower stays close to the lower spreader.
    Copper12, What kind of safety harness do you use. Do you clip on the the step above as you climb ?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Just came across this rigging check list might be worth a look http://safe-skipper.com/rig-check-essential-boat-maintenance-for-sailboats/ If your stopping off in Skerries on your trip give me a shout if you need fuel or supplies, or a pint :)







    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    Steve wrote: »
    Quick question based on the straight spreaders: Are there runners and jackstays yet to be attached?

    If not, why?

    As in what's going to keep the mast up downwind with a non swept back rig? :)
    From memory Ceo has a backstay that splits to both corners of the transom - I recall we had a debate about it waaay back as it was unclear on the rigging plan and looked as if she had runners (horrible things!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Copper12, What kind of safety harness do you use. Do you clip on the step above as you climb

    James not while climbing I use three point contact;’
    It means at all times I have three anchor points while moving an arm or a leg .
    When on top I attach the wraparound so I can lean back and be hands free so to speak .
    Top shrouds middle and four lower shrouds swept forward and back ;split backstay
    The photos might help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    copper12 wrote: »
    Photo0470.jpg (202.0 KB, 10 views)

    Is there a dirty big crack in the mounting for the boom?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Pete67


    Is there a dirty big crack in the mounting for the boom?

    Looks like a mastic sealant is 'cracked' rather than the gooseneck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭copper12


    Evening all
    The journey has begun
    Left the mooring last Monday the 22 of may by 6.
    I had the sails up and was off
    Weather was not great heavy fog and mist just past kin sail the tablet that I had navionic on packed up
    I opted to head for Glandore heavy fog made it difficult to locate Adam’s however I found him I almost bumt into him
    Picked up a mooring at 10 pm not much time to spear
    Next day I headed for Crookhaven got there at a respectable time 9pm picking up one of the visitor moorings these or a joke you would want to be Hercules to be able to lift one.
    Left next mooring bright and early and headed off I was now only using compass bearings maps headings and anything else I could think off to make do.
    Just after Clear island there was heavy mist and low cloud cover so I was sailing blind so to speak just a compass bearing when the fog came down I motored sailed in order to keep a heading to the bull island
    I was about a mile from it before it appeared delighted with myself I took a few photos only to find out ten minuet’s later it was the cow I had rounded set a coerce for the skelligs then onto dingle harbour fungy was there to greet me it was almost 9.30 pm by the time I tied up went up the village for something to eat everything was shut so had to settee for a Chinese.
    Next morning I had to walk a kilometre or more carrying two twenty litres of diesel I could scratch my knees without bending after;
    Off again early heading for killbaha or carragaholt bay instead I ended up in killkey as the wind was just right picked the best looking mooring late in the evening and headed off next mooring for the Arran islands again with good winds I ended up in Innisboffin; difficult enough harbour to get into very narrow like derrynane harbour all this time my speed log was not working so I decided to lean her against the pier next day to see if I could see what the problem was
    So next morning at 6am with the sound of corncrakes lifting the mooring an no phone rigging as this too has packed up; I heeded for the slip there was very high winds in the harbour so just before I got to the slip I took the engine out of gear just to get my bearings about forty feet from the slip
    So decided to tie up ¾ off the way up the slip so into gear went forward about ten feet and promptly went aground stuck fast onto a hidden shelf I had drifted in a minute or so off the line
    I tried everything to get her off but the high winds kept shoving me back on tried the dingy with the electric motor only to lose the battery overboard
    So I had to send a distress call Pan Pan as the tide started to drop
    While waiting I had a chance to walk around and could see no other rocks around me so put her into reverse as the is a fierce prop wash to starboard and this might turn me into the wind; shore enough it worked and I mortared and bumped off the ledge blessed I was
    After all that it was the connection into the display unit was the problem with the speed log
    At least I got a chance to inspect for damage and give her a wash down
    So yesterday evening I headed for either Achill island or Blacksod bay and ended up in broad haven
    This was my first night sail and I will not do it again without some form of chart plotter.
    Although my bearing were spot on up to now by night it’s totally different red light look yellow from a distance and some lights you would be nearly on top of before you would see them
    A case in point was the bearing I had to an AIS buoy north off Clare island just to the west off this there’s bills rocks not light up so on a bearing from the AIS I headed due west to avoid bills rocks with a lot of room to spear this I duly done for an hour or so only to glance at the depth sounder and it was reading 10 meters twenty minuets before it was reading 95 meters of water
    I immediately hove to and scrambled for the maps coerce plotter and notes I had made all the time the depth was varying between 10 and 5 meters this was at about 1.30am
    All checked put me twenty miles from bills rocks so nothing for it but wait for the dawn
    So on with the kettle and while having some Coffey and a fag I put a fishing line over the side after 80 meters I ran our of line still not convinced I got a GPS fix from the radio it placed me in 110 metres of water after reading the manufactures’ literature I was convinced that when the sounder went over 99 meters it went back to 0 so I headed off shaken by the experience and a little nervous the dept sounder still reading very low numbers so I changed coerce to a shallow bank of 70 meters and sure enough it started reading correctly after a few miles again over 100 meters of water it went back to single figures
    So this has been an eventful week I hope the next week is better :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Wow! What an adventure already!!!

    Fair play to you..... lovely to hear of things being done "old school".... although I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to try it myself :D

    Continued fair sailing to you, I look forward to hearing about the rest of your voyage!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭fishy_fishy


    What a beautiful boat and impressive restoration.

    I've been lurking and really impressed with such a skilled restoration and how enthusiastic you are. If everyone who sails was this enthusiastic, the sport would be thriving all around the coast.

    But I felt I had to comment, because I'm becoming increasingly alarmed by your posts.

    Ignoring 2016 (your first year on the water), in your 2017 updates so far the following has happened:

    - Conflicting weather reports: took the nicest one and when the heavier wind appeared, couldn't put a reef in the main. Unable to change headsail.
    - Snapped forestay due to furling drum turning the wrong way, then went aground getting into Crosshaven.
    - Lost the mast after multiple knock downs with headsail too big
    - Sailing in fog with no navionics despite being inexperienced, then continuing on with journey rather than sorting out a fix for them
    - Went aground in Inishbofin on falling tide and had to send pan pan
    - Night sailing alone with no plotter, no experience of night sailing and nobody aboard with experience of night sailing.

    I'm not sure if you're aware, but it's not normal to lose the mast or run aground. They're sorta once or twice in a lifetime events. Every single incident on that list was entirely avoidable. Anyone with reasonable experience and seamanship, sailing solo, would have avoided them.

    I REALLY hate being the negative nancy here, especially when it's someone who's so keen and is clearly developing such a love of the sea and of sailing, but I am genuinely concerned for your safety.

    I would ask you to please go home. Please do not do a solo round Ireland when you are so inexperienced.

    Take some sailing lessons. Keep doing the short trips. I see you've done a day skipper course. Fantastic! Think about doing the coastal yachtmaster (or even doing the day skipper again, with more knowledge of what it's like to be on a longer passage) and build up your knowledge. Take someone with you for a couple of night passages.

    It's such a beautiful boat, and I'd love to keep reading this thread and maybe a year from now see you head off safely with lots more knowledge and experience behind you, and be able to go around Ireland taking in all the sights rather than going from one issue to the next.

    Take care.


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