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sam34 · 07-03-2009 8:58pm

tallaght01 wrote: »

I'm supposed to wear a suit, but i think it would be more appropriate to turn up in a cardigan.

go with the suit, man.

if u wear a cardi you'll look like a shrink!:P

edit: if you could tell me how to quote properly i'd be eternally grateful. i seem to be totally hit and miss with whether it appears as above or properly highlighted

sillymoo · 08-03-2009 12:43am

Most of the public health doctors who lecture us wear suits. A cardi might not be the best I reckon. Im with Sam, the whole "Dr Frasier Crane" look is not hot in public health circles I hear.

tallaght01 · 08-03-2009 8:19am

I was just in the library doing some uni work, and I read an article from a guy who calls himself a "consultant anthropologist".

I wonder what the on-call is like in that specialty?

drzhivago · 08-03-2009 6:16pm

tallaght01 wrote: »

Cheers homie.

First day in public health is this tuesday.

I'm supposed to wear a suit, but i think it would be more appropriate to turn up in a cardigan.

The masters in public health is fantastic so far. Biostatistics is a bit tricky, but I'm getting there.

Hoping to get involved in a project on HIV in papau new guinea,too, which would be cool.

finishing MPH myself found biostats messy, partly because they forced me to use a windows package and I hate windows

DrIndy · 08-03-2009 10:22pm

tallaght01 wrote: »

Cheers homie.

First day in public health is this tuesday.

I'm supposed to wear a suit, but i think it would be more appropriate to turn up in a cardigan.

The masters in public health is fantastic so far. Biostatistics is a bit tricky, but I'm getting there.

Hoping to get involved in a project on HIV in papau new guinea,too, which would be cool.

If I saw you in a suit i'd start laughing!

ChewChew · 09-03-2009 11:25pm

DrIndy wrote: »

If I saw you in a suit i'd start laughing!

If I saw either of you in a suit I'd start laughing!

tallaght01 · 09-03-2009 11:42pm

We're talking about tracksuits here, right? :P

Pollythene Pam · 11-03-2009 4:14pm

It is. Yea.

drzhivago · 13-03-2009 5:24pm

Is there any way to move the locked posts

At this stage it looks like the whole front page could be full of locked posts shortly

tallaght01 · 13-03-2009 5:39pm

there's only 2 of them. I would just delete them. But, I'm hoping people will see that we lock threads asking for medical advice.

It doesn't work, even a bit :P

Chunky Monkey · 14-03-2009 1:16am

Help! 2000 word essay due on Monday on gene therapy, viral vectors and SMA and I don't understand any of it

Gotta admit that's why I'm here

Hope you're all well

tallaght01 · 14-03-2009 1:23am

I can write that for u in 12 words.

Virus enters cell. Sticks it's DNA into cell. Cell does different stuff.

Shazam!

Chunky Monkey · 14-03-2009 1:28am

But but! What about immune responses...and the types of immune responses...and the types of virus...and the types of gene...arghhhh!

Chunky Monkey · 14-03-2009 1:29am

But I'll take what you said on board...thank you

tallaght01 · 14-03-2009 1:39am

Chunky Monkey wrote: »

But but! What about immune responses...and the types of immune responses...and the types of virus...and the types of gene...arghhhh!

Worever :P

Don't be bringin' your fancy_jack science into this here establishment :P

Larianne · 14-03-2009 6:07pm

tallaght01 wrote: »

Cheers homie.

First day in public health is this tuesday.

I'm supposed to wear a suit, but i think it would be more appropriate to turn up in a cardigan.

The masters in public health is fantastic so far. Biostatistics is a bit tricky, but I'm getting there.

Hoping to get involved in a project on HIV in papau new guinea,too, which would be cool.

I'm sure the white tracksuit would go down a treat!

I'm kanackered.. that is all..

mardybumbum · 14-03-2009 8:05pm

This question is for the Docs on this here boards. :pac:
How much do you really remember from med school?
For example, when I pass my exams (fingers crossed), get my degree, and start working in a hospital is it important for me to realise that propionyl CoA is a product of beta oxidation of odd numbered fatty acids, or that NADH generates three ATP molecules during oxidative phosphorylation. Silly stuff like that.........
Im just studying a bit of biochem atm, and the thought occured to me.

sam34 · 17-03-2009 8:00pm

aaarrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
am supposed to be writing a paper which i told my boss i had already written, and i havent a word done.
havent even opened a microsoft word document and typed the title.
its sooo easy to waste time on boards

Traumadoc · 17-03-2009 9:39pm

mardybumbum wrote: »

This question is for the Docs on this here boards. :pac:
How much do you really remember from med school?
For example, when I pass my exams (fingers crossed), get my degree, and start working in a hospital is it important for me to realise that propionyl CoA is a product of beta oxidation of odd numbered fatty acids, or that NADH generates three ATP molecules during oxidative phosphorylation. Silly stuff like that.........
Im just studying a bit of biochem atm, and the thought occured to me.

I think you are missing the point of learning the biochemistry, if you know the basics well, other important stuff like pharmacokinetics/dynamics becomes much easier to understand, like sotolol having two isomers with different yet similar actions. or in your case (ATP) how cyanide kills you.
Or why NAC is an antidote to paracetamol poisoning.

sam34 · 17-03-2009 9:52pm

Traumadoc wrote: »

I think you are missing the point of learning the biochemistry, if you know the basics well, other important stuff like pharmacokinetics/dynamics becomes much easier to understand, like sotolol having two isomers with different yet similar actions. or in your case (ATP) how cyanide kills you.
Or why NAC is an antidote to paracetamol poisoning.

i hate to be a nerd, but traumadoc is right on this one.

i didnt give myself a good base knowledge of biochem/physiology etc and thus found pharmacology and some general med stuff much harder.

with the benefit of hindsight, id say get a good firm grasp of the basic sciences and you'll make the later years much easier on yourself

mardybumbum · 19-03-2009 6:55pm

Thanks for the advice. :pac:
I was just curious as to how much knowledge most docs would retain throughout their years.
Not just with regards to biochem, but with anatomy, pharmacology, physiology, e.t.c.
I will admit though, that the old biochem seems to be the easiest to forget.

milly4ever · 19-03-2009 7:15pm

tallaght01 wrote: »

So, I started my masters in Public Health today. A full day of international health policy. It was great

I am interested in doing this course. Do you have any advice for others considering it? Thanks

DrIndy · 19-03-2009 7:22pm

milly4ever wrote: »

I am interested in doing this course. Do you have any advice for others considering it? Thanks

One of the entry criteria is having a tallaght-crossed-with-glasgow accent. Very strange.

tallaght01 · 20-03-2009 2:28pm

milly4ever wrote: »

I am interested in doing this course. Do you have any advice for others considering it? Thanks

Well, you usually need a medical degree, or something related. You also need about 2 years postgrad work experience, if you do it in Ireland.

I love my course, though, and the job that goes with it

DrIndy wrote: »

One of the entry criteria is having a tallaght-crossed-with-glasgow accent. Very strange.

Says the guy with a Norway/Donegal accent. Now THAT is a crazy-ass voice :P

When you comin over this side of the world, dude?

DrIndy · 20-03-2009 4:56pm

I'll be joining you fairly soon - bloody papertrail is so long - everything is sent and now its the waiting game.

ImDave · 20-03-2009 7:19pm

Only 14 hours to go to the GAMSAT :eek:

tallaght01 · 21-03-2009 7:12pm

DrIndy wrote: »

I'll be joining you fairly soon - bloody papertrail is so long - everything is sent and now its the waiting game.

Well, it'll be nice to see you again when u arrive...in 2011 :P

ZorbaTehZ · 22-03-2009 2:20am

mardybumbum wrote: »

Thanks for the advice. :pac:
I was just curious as to how much knowledge most docs would retain throughout their years.
Not just with regards to biochem, but with anatomy, pharmacology, physiology, e.t.c.
I will admit though, that the old biochem seems to be the easiest to forget.

The flexor carpi ulnaris inserts at the 5th metacarpal via hamate & pisiform... :rolleyes:

Nevermind a doctor, I have yet to meet a 2nd year who remembers all those silly insertions, origins that they were forced to learn in 1st year.

RobFowl · 22-03-2009 11:18am

ZorbaTehZ wrote: »

The flexor carpi ulnaris inserts at the 5th metacarpal via hamate & pisiform... :rolleyes:

Nevermind a doctor, I have yet to meet a 2nd year who remembers all those silly insertions, origins that they were forced to learn in 1st year.

Totally agree, when I did it it was very didactic in terms of teaching and practical usage was not considered.
It was only while working in AE that I discovered the ankle sprain uaually involves the ATFL .

Larianne · 24-03-2009 12:40am

Got interview for Physio in Trinity next Wednesday.

mardybumbum · 24-03-2009 12:44am

Congrats. Do you know who will be interviewing you?

Vorsprung · 24-03-2009 12:46am

DrIndy wrote: »

I'll be joining you fairly soon - bloody papertrail is so long - everything is sent and now its the waiting game.

The place I'm heading to is sorting out my visa application for me. And they're paying for part of my flights!

Yes I am a jammy bastard.

tallaght01 · 24-03-2009 4:25am

bigjimthefirst wrote: »

The place I'm heading to is sorting out my visa application for me. And they're paying for part of my flights!

Yes I am a jammy bastard.

I got 3k aus dollar to cover my flights. I thought everyone gets that. I think they're short changing u!!!!

Vorsprung · 24-03-2009 2:32pm

tallaght01 wrote: »

I got 3k aus dollar to cover my flights. I thought everyone gets that. I think they're short changing u!!!!

EDIT - In fairness you were a reg heading over, weren't you?

Larianne · 25-03-2009 12:24am

mardybumbum wrote: »

Congrats. Do you know who will be interviewing you?

I guess Juliette Hussey and then two others... like last year when I completely fecked up the interview.

Hopefully that won't occur this time.

DrIndy · 25-03-2009 1:04am

Depends on the hospital!

I get $2500 relocation costs.

My hospital is helping me out too - but in fairness there is so much you need to do yourself regarding paperwork it makes little difference.

I should be there in may! See you in brissie for a XXXX!

mardybumbum · 25-03-2009 3:11am

Larianne wrote: »

I guess Juliette Hussey and then two others... like last year when I completely fecked up the interview. Hopefully that won't occur this time.

Hmmmmm, haven't come across her yet. The best of luck to you. Keep your cool and sure you'll be grrrrrrand.
Hope to see you stumbling around the anatomy lab next year. :pac:

missannik · 25-03-2009 1:11pm

After 4 1/2 months waiting I'm finally registered with An Bord Altranais. *dances*

Dr Galen · 25-03-2009 3:55pm

four and a half months............jesus wept why so long?

missannik · 26-03-2009 6:59am

I'm not entirely sure why so long... it did take a while to send all the required information from differing bodies (current employment, 2 univerisities and the hospital I trained at) and then once they received it all it took them 4 weeks to decide. I'm just so glad its done and that I don't have to do a conversion course.

tallaght01 · 26-03-2009 9:21am

Mystik Monkey wrote: »

four and a half months............jesus wept why so long?

I think she was lucky. I knew a nurse in New Zealand who came over and had to wait 9 months for registration. 9 poxy months. The gestation time for a human baby!!!

She spent the entire time working on the tills in dunnes, while we were strapped for nurses. She's one of the best nurses I've ever worked with too.

missannik · 26-03-2009 11:12am

tallaght01 wrote: »

I knew a nurse in New Zealand who came over and had to wait 9 months for registration. 9 poxy months. The gestation time for a human baby!!!

Was that for UK registration? That is the standard time for the UK, whereas Ireland is 4-6 months. I decided on Ireland because the wait for registration was far quicker, plus the UK makes everyone sit expensive English exams.

Dr Galen · 26-03-2009 8:42pm

tallaght01 wrote: »

I think she was lucky. I knew a nurse in New Zealand who came over and had to wait 9 months for registration. 9 poxy months. The gestation time for a human baby!!!

She spent the entire time working on the tills in dunnes, while we were strapped for nurses. She's one of the best nurses I've ever worked with too.

hot?

Larianne · 28-03-2009 4:27pm

mardybumbum wrote: »

Hmmmmm, haven't come across her yet. The best of luck to you. Keep your cool and sure you'll be grrrrrrand.
Hope to see you stumbling around the anatomy lab next year. :pac:

Juilette is head of Physio in Trinity.

Got conditional offer from Uni of Ulster. Just need 70% in my exams and I'm in. YAY!

tallaght01 · 28-03-2009 4:33pm

Good work, kiddo

angeldelight · 31-03-2009 9:43pm

Mostly a lurker on here but just had one of those days that make you hate work forever!! A combination of people who didn't understand how often they could get their prescriptions teamed with those who understand fully but still like to chance their arm just left me with far too many rude/aggressive people to deal with today grrr

Larianne · 02-04-2009 4:03pm

angeldelight wrote: »

Mostly a lurker on here but just had one of those days that make you hate work forever!! A combination of people who didn't understand how often they could get their prescriptions teamed with those who understand fully but still like to chance their arm just left me with far too many rude/aggressive people to deal with today grrr

Let it go over the head , OVER the head....

mardybumbum · 04-04-2009 12:24am

Quick anatomy question here.

In grays for students it describes three cusps of the ascending aorta, which are left,right and posterior. The right and left coronary arteries arising from the sinuses of the right and left cusp respectively.

But in the larger edition of grays it describes the anterior, left posterior, and right posterior cusps of the ascending aorta. The right and left coronary arteries arising from the sinuses of the anterior and left posterior cusps respectively.

Now I believe one of these arrangements is derived from the embryological arrangement of the cusps, and the other from the actual arrangement of the cusps in the developed heart. But which one is which?????

Want to get this niggly stuff out of the way before my viva.

ZorbaTehZ · 04-04-2009 1:41am

That sounds odd... are you sure you were looking at the aortic valve and not the pulmonary?

As for embryological positions, I know that there is slight rotation (because of the helix shape) when the tubercules are being excavated to form the sinuses which caused them to move downward but I'm not sure if it is very drastic.

mardybumbum · 04-04-2009 2:10am

ZorbaTehZ wrote: »

That sounds odd... are you sure you were looking at the aortic valve and not the pulmonary?

As for embryological positions, I know that there is slight rotation (because of the helix shape) when the tubercules are being excavated to form the sinuses which caused them to move downward but I'm not sure if it is very drastic.

The pulmonary valve???? :eek:
(Runs back to the kitchen and opens gray's)
Nope, the coronary arteries defenitely arise from the sinuses of the aortic valve.
Yep, there is defenitely rotation during embryological development hence the two naming systems in use but I cant figure out which one describes the embyological arrangement, and which one the developed arrangement.

I would e-mail my anatomy professor but he forwards all emails to the whole class and I look nerdy enough allready!

Edit: After some clever google searching I thinks I got the answer.

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