Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Repairable Dripping Atomiser (RDA)

2456716

Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    ok
    so im using the actual .20 nichrome
    1.5ish ohm coil at 4.3 volts
    it's pretty much perfect

    all the fiddling i've been doing trying to get this right... all because the wire i'd bought was mislabelled :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭derra


    ok
    so im using the actual .20 nichrome
    1.5ish ohm coil at 4.3 volts
    it's pretty much perfect

    all the fiddling i've been doing trying to get this right... all because the wire i'd bought was mislabelled :)

    That sounds bang on now.
    4 strands , 6 turns of .20 wire with Andreis wick would get me that measurement too.

    3.4 - 3.6 v would do me there but there are more things to consider like the juice stength and pg/vg ratio which would swing the voltage either way.

    Another turn would bring you to 1.7/8 Ohms, plenty of wire covering the wick and more vapour.

    Ya still getting that harsh kind of kick out of it?
    I will find out the size of the hole and still consider making it bigger, don't wanna screw it up either if i wanted to sell it.

    Another thing, he is getting clear cases for the RDA i think which i prefer, i like to see what's going on in atties easily !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    the kick is a little softer on that one alright, I just did an 8 turn coil which came out to around 1.7-1.8ohms but the th is a little harsrher.. I think two of the coils are a bit too close which is causing that


    i thought he stopped doing clear cases for it because they were too imprecise with the measurements.. be cool to have one alright, id like to see that vapour building up while i take a draw and it'd save me having to take it apart to get a look at stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭derra


    the kick is a little softer on that one alright, I just did an 8 turn coil which came out to around 1.7-1.8ohms but the th is a little harsrher.. I think two of the coils are a bit too close which is causing that


    i thought he stopped doing clear cases for it because they were too imprecise with the measurements.. be cool to have one alright, id like to see that vapour building up while i take a draw and it'd save me having to take it apart to get a look at stuff

    Did you turn the voltage up as well ?
    Try it at 3.7 v.

    What way is your wick now then, 4 strands under coil and 2 tails?
    What length are you cutting the wick before winding etc

    The more info we gather to set this thing up properly the better :)

    Saw a post earlier about the clear case, maybe it was quoted from a while back.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    heading out for dinner now but ill reply properly when I get back

    i have the 4 strands looped under the coil with 2 strands in the case nbut the looped 4 strands are so long that the loop kinda sits into the case.. if you get me
    I tried it with 2 strands only and i wasnt really hapy with the wicking but I'll give it another go in the future.. this way I get 4 strands wicking pretty much but the extra 2 strands are all tidied up in the loop so it just looks tidier :)

    ill try get a proper digital camera and take pics when I get back


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    i dont really mesure it out before I cut the wick, I just roll out a length that seems right and cut it then whatever I dont need once the coil is made i chop off.. ive gotten good enough at measuring it by eye so I dont have to cut much off at the end

    i think ill do up another coil with 8 turns and try it at lower voltages first.. trying it now and im getting good flavour but there's something in the background, which I think is the singed wick from going to high with it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    pics of the coil/wick
    this one came out at 1.5ohms, seems a bit low for that many turns

    not entirely thrilled with this one.. great vapour and very good flavour but it's missing that something
    I made one coil once in the long long ago and I used some liqua turkish tobacco, it came out tasting amazing so every coil I make I use the liqua turkish as my benchmark. this one comes pretty close, but it's missing that something ... can't put my finger on it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Does either Kanthal or the fibreglass wick have a taste? I'm struggling to create the same clean flavour as I got with the nichrome wire and group buy wick. There's always a king of background taste that I can't seem to get rid of.

    I didn't use a lighter on the wire cos I don't have one - must buy one - but does that affect the taste?

    Also the background taste I get is very like the taste I got with the iMist I think.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    kanthal does have a stronger initial taste than nichrome, heating it with the lighter helps get rid of it

    what I heard/read is kanthal has the stronger taste but will over time dissapear completely
    nichrome has the lesser taste and it will lessen over time but never completely go away

    in both cases running a lighter flame over it before you coil helps


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Must try that then. Janey Mac, this stuff would drive you barmy trying to get it perfect.

    Still though, I remember my first vape with the RDA a couple of weeks ago. No comparison to carto's and tanks or clearo's.

    Noticed my last coil/wick looked a bit on the hairy side and was spitting a bit so made up yet another one.......read some stuff about shards today and it worried me a bit just in case it was spitting off little shards.

    Wonder could you put a little bit of cotton wool in the drip tip just in case? Probably just trap vapour though and get wet I'd imagine.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    well with the stuff from andrei you dont have to really worry about the hairs in the vape, the group buy stuff Id be worried about alright but even then it's not even a definite that it will happen with that stuff and as yous aid once the wick is properly wet it becomes even more unlikely

    you could try a mesh wick I guess :) or a hybrid mesh/silica/fibreglass wick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Ha ha......hard enough to get this right without getting into mesh wick. In fairness to the RDA it's easy enough to learn on though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    yeah, it's the definition of easy to learn hard to master :)

    I wish i'd just gotten an RDA back last year instead of a lavatube, if I'd never known about variable voltage vaping I'd have stuck away trying to get this working perfectly on a fixed voltage ego.. throwing different voltages into the mix is a headache in itself
    testing some diy's atm.. and its hard to know if it's the rda, the juice, the voltage or all three that's helping/hurting each juice
    the fact that I'm some high wattage loving freak doesn't help either, currently vaping a 1.6ohm coil at five volts and loving it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Yeah, it's handy to be able to tailor the resistance alright. If you go too low even on an eGo though, wicking becomes a problem. Better to learn on this than the RTA though. I'd crack up if I had to learn all this on that. The RDA is esy to open up and throw a new coil and wick onto. The RTA looks a bit more difficult!

    I spent a fortune on hardware over the last few months but this thing allows me to go through dozens of set ups very cheaply. My spending has plummeted. About time too. Vaping was costing a fortune and the juices were the cheapest part.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    heh yeah, im getting more wick and wire from andrei than i'd care to admit but even then it's like.. 15 euro a month if even and im narrowing in on my perfect vape
    even when its not perfect it kicks the **** out of cartomisers, those weeks when my RDA was off with clockworks being repaired were pretty hard.. used to be a boge evangelist but once I got that RDA it was just night and day in terms of a great vape.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    I heated the Kanthal over a flame today prior to building a new coil. I 'think' the taste is gone and the wire seemed easier to use.

    I do find with Andrei's wick that I need 3 strands at 5 turns or it will dry too quickly and give the burnt taste and I'm only using an eGo. Don't have a multimeter on me but it should be around 1.8 ohms.

    Very happy with this one actually. Spent a bit of time on it.

    As you well know though, I'll probably decide I could make it better later and rip it all apart again!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    i didnt have any trouble with the wick being too dry when i was using two strands of andreis wick at ego voltages.. thats weird

    maybe you're coiling too tight... or not tight enough :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    decided to take a more scientific approach to this

    made a 9 turn coil with 4 strands, came to 1.9 ohms. great flavour abovce 5 volts but not much below that, even though it's producing the vapour. my guess is too many turns, taking too long to heat that much wire at the lower volts. my next 9 turn coil I'll do with 3 strands and then 2 to see if there's any difference. I seem to remember doing a similar coil ages ago with 2 strands and it gave great flavour so maybe the amount of juice held in the 4 strands of wick is cooling the coil down too much over its entire surface area.

    shame todays a bank holiday, found a chunk of the wick andrei had before so i wont run out any time soon but I dont know if its enough to warrant further experimentation.. might run the risk of going a bit mad and running out before wednesday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭derra


    Does either Kanthal or the fibreglass wick have a taste? I'm struggling to create the same clean flavour as I got with the nichrome wire and group buy wick. There's always a king of background taste that I can't seem to get rid of.

    I didn't use a lighter on the wire cos I don't have one - must buy one - but does that affect the taste?

    Also the background taste I get is very like the taste I got with the iMist I think.

    The different wicks have a taste alright, i got a taste off the stuff Andrei has now which i did'nt like. The stuff he first had was better imo so i got 20 metres of that which will last me a long time.

    heh yeah, im getting more wick and wire from andrei than i'd care to admit but even then it's like.. 15 euro a month if even and im narrowing in on my perfect vape
    .

    One ya have the set up right you won't be buying 10 metres a month :D
    That's a lot of wick your using, just dry it and use the other end to put the coil on. After a few days use it won't be as good, but your only testing so it fine to use again.


    Done a repair earlier, 4 strands of wick, 6 turns .20 Nichrome, coil in centre of the wick as i think it's wicking better this way. Seems to be a dry spot on the end close to the coil the other way.
    I put the coil on the same side as the solder tag.

    Seems to be much better.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    coil on the same side as the solder?
    you changing stufff for the sake of it or was there some reason :)

    also 4 strands on both sides... would that not take like.. half a metre of wick?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭derra


    coil on the same side as the solder?
    you changing stufff for the sake of it or was there some reason :)

    also 4 strands on both sides... would that not take like.. half a metre of wick?

    Always did on the same side as the solder, just thought it better for the wick sitting on the base.

    It be around 20 cms of wick, will do one with tails next time still keeping the coil in the centre.

    Will give it a few more days and see how i get on.
    Feels like the vape is too clean or something, a bit too smooth for my liking.
    I prefer the bite out of the eGo vision at the moment, tight draw but will do what Green Hornet suggested about that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    I've done a few with the coil at one end and I think they've all been dry pretty quickly at the short side. Going to keep it centred from now on.

    Did any of you ever try the other wick linked on Clockworks website?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Bubba9



    Did any of you ever try the other wick linked on Clockworks website?

    I've been mainly using Heaven's Gift wick and it's grand. Used Bulli and Andrei's too without any problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    For some reason I get a taste off Andrei's wick. Then again, I hated the carto taste when I used cartos too. Maybe I'm just sensitive to taste!

    Might try some of the HG stuff then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭Bubba9


    This guy also does wick:

    http://www.cig-eliquid.co.uk/

    He also does an excellent RY4 concentrate if you mix your own juice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭derra


    I have 20 metres of Heavens Gift wick that i'd sell for €11 if anyones wants it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    derra wrote: »
    I have 20 metres of Heavens Gift wick that i'd sell for €11 if anyones wants it.

    How does that compare to Andrei's wick Derra? I'd buy it if I thought it would be any different at all?

    I already have about 9.5 meters of Andrei's wick left though so I dont want to end up with 30m of the same wick!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    I actually tried another using the group buy stuff and to be honest, I dont think it was much different to Andre's stuff and when I had a look at the wick I saw how "shardy" it is..........hundreds of little shards all over it so I dont think I'd want to be inhaling that stuff.

    For the next one using Andre's wick I soaked the new length of wick in alcohol before assembling into a coil and I "think" the background taste is gone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭derra


    I did'nt like the HG wick GH, it's very hard or something and does'nt seem to absorb the juice. A lot of people like it though, so it's just a matter of user preference if you like it or not.

    Never tried soaking Andreis wick in alcohol, only got a sample of the stuff he is selling now but if it works, great.
    I would prep it with a hot blue flame before soaking in alcohol or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Never tried the flame on it either. Must try that too. It's definitely a much cleaner vape after the wash though.

    In fairness, when you look at the 2 wicks side by side, that group buy stuff looks really, really hairy. After reading some stuff about shedding shards last week I think I'll stay away from it anyway.


  • Advertisement
  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    decided to dig out the lavatube today rather than constantly have to change rdas over to test stuff

    decided to test the same rda on both throathit and the lavatube. both running at 5.3v on a 2.8ohm coil tested with my multimeter..
    the draw and flavour seem far better on the lavatube.
    I was thinking fair enough to the draw.. I guess maybe the 510 connector is fitting with the connector on the RDA (I used the 510 connector on the throathit, and I screwed in a 510-ego connector to test them both.. lavatube better both times) but then .. the only air hole on the RDA is the one on the side
    if you block that.. there's no airflow.. it doesnt come through the bottom, so now i'm confused as hell about how the draw is better/easier on the LT.. and the flavour thing is just confusing the **** out of me. I guess it could be in my head as the black RDA does look excellent on the LT.. same dimensions/colour so maybe I'm just lying to myself.. but I can't explain the easier draw at all

    only thing I can think is my meter is wrong? and the lavatube is actually running at a slightly higher voltage than the TH? even though they both come out the same on the meter...
    is puzzling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭derra


    4.2 v on the box mod i had is a lot different to the 4.2 v on the Twist.
    All PV's perform differently.

    Someone will come up with a better explanation though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    yeah but if they're metering out at the same voltage measured through the posts on the RDA.. surely it should be the same

    most likely answer is it was all in my head, there's no real way to account for how hard you're drawing on it or maybe even the angle i was holding it at was affecting the airflow or something stupid like that


  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    decided to dig out the lavatube today rather than constantly have to change rdas over to test stuff

    decided to test the same rda on both throathit and the lavatube. both running at 5.3v on a 2.8ohm coil tested with my multimeter..
    the draw and flavour seem far better on the lavatube.
    I was thinking fair enough to the draw.. I guess maybe the 510 connector is fitting with the connector on the RDA (I used the 510 connector on the throathit, and I screwed in a 510-ego connector to test them both.. lavatube better both times) but then .. the only air hole on the RDA is the one on the side
    if you block that.. there's no airflow.. it doesnt come through the bottom, so now i'm confused as hell about how the draw is better/easier on the LT.. and the flavour thing is just confusing the **** out of me. I guess it could be in my head as the black RDA does look excellent on the LT.. same dimensions/colour so maybe I'm just lying to myself.. but I can't explain the easier draw at all

    only thing I can think is my meter is wrong? and the lavatube is actually running at a slightly higher voltage than the TH? even though they both come out the same on the meter...
    is puzzling

    Try taking the 510 silver connection off the throathit and cleaning the original brass connection underneath that. You might need to wrap a tissue around it and twist it gently with a plyers to get it off. I did that a couple of weeks ago and there was a nice bit of juice under the silver part and on the brass one and I think it made a big difference after I cleaned it. I'm almost but not totally sure the brass one is well sealed and no liquid can get down into the workings as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    yeah but if they're metering out at the same voltage measured through the posts on the RDA.. surely it should be the same

    most likely answer is it was all in my head, there's no real way to account for how hard you're drawing on it or maybe even the angle i was holding it at was affecting the airflow or something stupid like that

    There all different I did a test there during the week. I tried the ego twist the throat hit and the Vmax with the same sub tank juice and 2ohm boge carto one after the other at different voltage each time from about 3 volts right up to 4volts and there was a completely different vape off them all on each setting. The winner and nicest smoothest vape was the throathit by far.
    The twist was good but seemed lacking a small bit in power, the Vmax was too powerful and the throathit felt just like it should be.

    Try not taking as much notice of what voltage your using and dial up slowly until you find your sweetspot, thats what works for me anyways.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    I put a small square of cotton wool from a cotton wool wipe in my RDA. I put it on the empty side of the chamber and it doesn't touch the coil but is not far away either, just sitting on the wick. Soaked up a ton of juice. I've vaped the hell out of it for a few minutes and the RDA is vaping like a champ! The wool is still soaking as well.

    The fact that it's not touching the coil should mean it's safe........shouldn't it??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    well if it's soaking up juice its not likely to catch on fire

    is it affecting the flavour at all?

    only thing id be wondering is if the wool is treated with any chemicals


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Won't go on fire cos it's not too near the coil and it's wet as hell.

    Not sure whether it's treated or not but I'll use it for the moment and wash with alcohol tomorrow. It's great. Holds a ton of juice and no loose juice in the chamber.

    Actually saw some threads where people are rolling wicks with it on ECF believe it or not!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    yeah theres a couple of threads on ukvapers about it too, they say the flavour is great but you have to keep it wet at all times or it burns real fast

    some people are using gauze as a filler as well and as a wick and cheesecloth as a wick

    lots of options there if experimentation is your thing :)


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Flavour isn't affected at all.

    It's not near the coil so it shouldn't burn. It's helping the wicking too I think cos the juice doesn't have to travel as far.

    Of course, I might decide it's **** tomorrow and think of something else to try.

    Hate the thoughts of the juice sloshing around in my pocket.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    take a picture if you can of where exactly you put it/how big the square is

    heading to a 30th on saturday and not having to worry about juice running about in my trouser pocket would be a bonus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Yeah, I took a photo on the phone buy can't attach it.,....stupid iphone.

    I'll use the PC tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Here you go.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    you finding it affecting the vapour at all? with the reduced space for it to accumulate and all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    I dont think so anyway. Seems to be the same as normal as far as I can tell. The only thing is that it soaks up an awful lot of juice so you'd want to be sure that you liked the juice!

    I dont think there's any effect on flavour either cos the vapour isn't being sucked through it like a carto................wonder could you use the filler from a carto now that I think about it! Vapour wouldn't be sucked through it so it mightn't have that carto taste?

    Like I said, it uses an AWFUL lot of juice but you can sense a drop off in vapour earlier than just running out so it's easy to keep it topped off at the right level.

    Edit: My wad of cotton wool is huge though anyway. A smaller wad should soak up a good bit of juice and not take up as much room in the chamber.


  • Advertisement
  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    yeah I think i saw people using carto filler as well.. if cotton wool is working for you though, why destroy a carto :)

    whast did you take the cotton wool from.. im imagining one of those big horrible rolls of cotton wool mam always had in the pharmacy
    my entire body tingled in a horrible way whenever I had to touch them...hate hate that texture


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    :D

    You can buy packs of flat cotton wool - probably about 2mm thick. They're for wiping babies bottoms, wiping hands etc. only a couple of euro's I imagine and a lifetime supply for what you'd require for this job!

    I just pulled a bit off of a corner and put it in. I'd say mine is actually too big actually but there's a ton of juice in it so dont want to waste it! When this one works down a bit I'll cut it back cos now that you said it, I think there is a small drop off in vapour.

    That stuff is 100% cotton as well so should be safe.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    cool.. ill try grab some soon

    like you said though, you'd want to be certain about vaping the same juice for a long while... which is something i havent mastered on the rda yet. I have about 30 bottles of juice on my desk I keep switching between every time I need a refill..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    As usual, I couldn't stop myself.................:rolleyes:

    I cracked open a carto and removed the filler. I cut off 2 x small squares and put them into the RDA in the same position as where I had the cotton wool.

    I think it's better actually. It holds a fair bit of juice still and uses up less chamber volume. I think the vapour and flavour are pretty much the same as if the chamber was empty.

    If you had an old carto it might be worth trying it? The cotton wool works well too but it just soaks up an awful lot of juice.

    Edit: this is working really well. I thought there was a bit of a drop off in vapour and flavour a while ago but I checked the screws and they had worked themselves a bit loose. Tightened them up and it's working great.

    What would you call this...a driptomiser....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    will try the carto filler in a bit
    still fiddling with various coils arrangements and wires and whatnot

    I remembred something derra said ages ago about leaving a couple of mm between the coil and the posts, rather than having them tight to it.. so i've been doing that this morning and the coil i'm vaping now is pretty fantastic
    it comes to 3.2ish ohms with 6-7 turns of .15 nichrome and 4 strands of wick, vaping it at 5.1 volts and it's very very flavourful, warm and lots of vapour.
    once ive vaped away the remainder of this liqua traditional tobacco I'll try a fruity/sweet juice in it and see how that tastes


  • Advertisement
Advertisement