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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread II

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    #392
    durkadurka
    Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Plenty of rugby fans in tallaght. Don't believe the stereotype


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    #393
    dregin
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    Is there a similar deal to last year on tickets for the Gloucester game? (4 for the price of 3)


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    #394
    Teferi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    durkadurka wrote: »
    Plenty of rugby fans in tallaght. Don't believe the stereotype

    Has anyone said anything like that about the game?

    I was thinking that for the price someone who wouldn't make the trip to the RDS might see it and head in.


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    #395
    totallegend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    durkadurka wrote: »
    Plenty of rugby fans in tallaght. Don't believe the stereotype

    Sigh.

    Would "not one of the traditional strongholds of rugby in the city" have been more acceptable?

    [@ emmet, I didn't say it was "un-rugby" by the way, I said it was "one of the most un-rugby parts of the city", which it is.]


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    #396
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    totallegend wrote: »
    Sigh.

    Would "not one of the traditional strongholds of rugby in the city" have been more acceptable?

    [@ emmet, I didn't say it was "un-rugby" by the way, I said it was "one of the most un-rugby parts of the city", which it is.]

    It means the same thing though doesn't it? That is just pushing the stereotype out even more.


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    #397
    durkadurka
    Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    totallegend wrote: »
    Sigh.

    Would "not one of the traditional strongholds of rugby in the city" have been more acceptable?

    [@ emmet, I didn't say it was "un-rugby" by the way, I said it was "one of the most un-rugby parts of the city", which it is.]

    It's not a big deal, you'd be surprised by the numbers of supporters from there that's all.


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    #398
    Morf
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    The open training session has been changed from 12 to 12.45pm tomorrow at Co. Carlow Football Club, Oak Park.


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    #399
    totallegend
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    It's not a big deal, you'd be surprised by the numbers of supporters from there that's all.

    No, I wouldn't, I know that there are a lot of rugby fans out there and I didn't say otherwise.

    But it is NOT a traditional rugby area. That's not a stereotype, it's a fact. The rugby fans are vastly outnumbered by soccer and GAA fans.

    Hence, I was saying it was great to see so many tickets being sold for a nothing match out there.

    I know it's a quiet time on the rugby board but I don't see the argument.


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    #400
    padser
    Registered Users Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭padser


    Teferi wrote: »
    Hopefully a lot of them aren't already Leinster/rugby fans and we get a few converts!


    Absolutely, I'm really looking forward to the day when we convert all the soccer fans to Rugby (let's be fair, Tallaght is a soccer stronghold) and then we have to partition stadiums to keep rival fams apart and have special buses in and out of cities because of all the trouble at games.


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    #401
    durkadurka
    Registered Users Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    totallegend wrote: »
    No, I wouldn't, I know that there are a lot of rugby fans out there and I didn't say otherwise.

    But it is NOT a traditional rugby area. That's not a stereotype, it's a fact. The rugby fans are vastly outnumbered by soccer and GAA fans.

    Hence, I was saying it was great to see so many tickets being sold for a nothing match out there.

    I know it's a quiet time on the rugby board but I don't see the argument.
    We're splitting hairs at this stage on a nothing issue and I'm not really that argumentative so I'll leave it there.

    One reason for the good sales is probably the very good family deals- kids for a fiver etc. bringing my own durka jr to his first Leinster game.


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    #402
    PhatPiggins
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    totallegend wrote: »
    Sigh.

    Would "not one of the traditional strongholds of rugby in the city" have been more acceptable?

    [@ emmet, I didn't say it was "un-rugby" by the way, I said it was "one of the most un-rugby parts of the city", which it is.]

    It means the same thing though doesn't it? That is just pushing the stereotype out even more.

    So a statement of a fact is now a stereotype!! I don't know who are worse the biggots or the pc warriors who live in the clouds.


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    #403
    cormacjones
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    padser wrote: »
    Absolutely, I'm really looking forward to the day when we convert all the soccer fans to Rugby (let's be fair, Tallaght is a soccer stronghold) and then we have to partition stadiums to keep rival fams apart and have special buses in and out of cities because of all the trouble at games.


    I hope that's a joke post? I can't tell.


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    #404
    padser
    Registered Users Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭padser


    cormacjones wrote: »
    padser wrote: »
    Absolutely, I'm really looking forward to the day when we convert all the soccer fans to Rugby (let's be fair, Tallaght is a soccer stronghold) and then we have to partition stadiums to keep rival fams apart and have special buses in and out of cities because of all the trouble at games.


    I hope that's a joke post? I can't tell.

    Obviously.

    I don't really want rugby games to become like soccer games. I was being sarcastic.


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    #405
    cormacjones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭cormacjones


    padser wrote: »
    Obviously.

    I don't really want rugby games to become like soccer games. I was being sarcastic.

    Yeah I got the sarcasm, I was hoping you were messing with your point about soccer fans.

    Fair enough if it's your opinion, but it strikes me as elitist and snobbish. Your stereotypical rugby fan perhaps? :rolleyes:


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    #406
    tolosenc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    cormacjones wrote: »
    Yeah I got the sarcasm, I was hoping you were messing with your point about soccer fans.

    Fair enough if it's your opinion, but it strikes me as elitist and snobbish. Your stereotypical rugby fan perhaps? :rolleyes:

    Typical GAA fan talking about stereotypical rugby fans.

    :P


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    #407
    Fishooks12
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    cormacjones wrote: »
    Yeah I got the sarcasm, I was hoping you were messing with your point about soccer fans.

    Fair enough if it's your opinion, but it strikes me as elitist and snobbish. Your stereotypical rugby fan perhaps? :rolleyes:

    I follow both and I'd think most reasonable soccer fans would agree that there is a huge problem with lack of respect in the game, from fans and players

    It's nothing to do with elitism, just an element rugby fans don't want creeping into the game


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    #408
    cormacjones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭cormacjones


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    I follow both and I'd think most reasonable soccer fans would agree that there is a huge problem with lack of respect in the game, from fans and players

    It's nothing to do with elitism, just an element rugby fans don't want creeping into the game

    I was making a point about stereotyping.

    Tefri made the point that he/she hoped that of the 4,000 going to see the game some would be new to rugby and could be converted. Padser response was, to paraphrase, that we'll have to introduce security measures if Tallaght soccer supporters started going to Leinster games.

    If that's not snobbery then I'm not sure what is. Snobbery and elitism is what rugby fans are often accused of, especially by football hooligans from working class areas.

    I'm a big fan of both sports by the way, I just found Padser's post offensive and thought I should reply.


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    #409
    CatFromHue
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    You shouldn't stereotype.....that's what they do in China :pac:


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    #410
    .ak
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    cormacjones wrote: »
    I'm a big fan of both sports by the way, I just found Padser's post offensive and thought I should reply.

    If you found it offensive then you should've hit the report button, not reply. This is the Leinster gossip forum, so everyone knock off the soccer talk or take it elsewhere.


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    #411
    SportingFun
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    Morf wrote: »
    The open training session has been changed from 12 to 12.45pm tomorrow at Co. Carlow Football Club, Oak Park.

    Went to this and there was a massive crowd and the players did there best to get to everyone and most people went home very happy. Great to see these sessions getting such big turn outs every time


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    #412
    danthefan
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    SportingFun wrote: »
    Went to this and there was a massive crowd and the players did there best to get to everyone and most people went home very happy. Great to see these sessions getting such big turn outs every time

    Were all the internationals present?


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    #413
    Morf
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    danthefan wrote: »
    Were all the internationals present?

    All the fit ones, yes.


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    #414
    David900
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭David900


    Looks like Liberty Insurance are the front runners for the RDS naming rights. RDS looking for reported €15m.

    From the article it doesn't look like this will have any benefit for Leinster apart from the extra capacity it will provide.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2012/0806/1224321561775.html


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    #415
    funky penguin
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    Making it....Liberty Stadium? Em..... :pac:


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    #416
    GerM
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    funky penguin wrote: »
    Making it....Liberty Stadium? Em..... :pac:

    If you can't beat them....


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    #417
    danthefan
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    David900 wrote: »
    Looks like Liberty Insurance are the front runners for the RDS naming rights. RDS looking for reported €15m.

    From the article it doesn't look like this will have any benefit for Leinster apart from the extra capacity it will provide.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2012/0806/1224321561775.html

    Which is a fairly significant benefit.


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    #418
    David900
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭David900


    danthefan wrote: »
    Which is a fairly significant benefit.

    Which is true, but the draw from these companies is for Leinster Rugby and not the RDS. They still have to pay rent etc. and will never own the asset.

    Leinster should be in the position of power on this deal and I hope they use this reduce current payable or something similar.

    Of course, we will probably never find out.


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    #419
    danthefan
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    David900 wrote: »
    Which is true, but the draw from these companies is for Leinster Rugby and not the RDS. They still have to pay rent etc. and will never own the asset.

    Leinster should be in the position of power on this deal and I hope they use this reduce current payable or something similar.

    Of course, we will probably never find out.

    I think you've said it yourself tbh. A new stand that they don't have to pay for is a massive benefit to Leinster, it will result in 10s of thousands of extra tickets a season being sold. They can't have their cake and eat it - i.e. get reduced rent and pay nothing for the stand.


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    #420
    David900
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭David900


    danthefan wrote: »
    I think you've said it yourself tbh. A new stand that they don't have to pay for is a massive benefit to Leinster, it will result in 10s of thousands of extra tickets a season being sold. They can't have their cake and eat it - i.e. get reduced rent and pay nothing for the stand.

    I think we will have to agree to disagree. RDS are effectively getting their cake and eating it too :D they're getting new stand finance on the back of Leinster, the least we would hope for is they don't increase the rent at next review :D


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    #421
    OldRio
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    If you don't mind me asking but whereabouts at the RDS will the new stand be?


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