What do you think Europe/Ireland would be like if Hitler won ?

bayern282 · 03-09-2011 1:11pm #1

Probably been asked before, seems to be a bit of a taboo question as well, but still intriguing. I think the Reich would have gone the way of the Soviet Union, keeping such a massive empire would have been almost impossible over decades or maybe Hitler's successors may have been less extreme, there were a lot of Generals etc who were far more pragmatic than the leadership that led the Germans into the folly of the Holocaust and invading Russia.

What would Ireland and the UK be like in your opinion? There would have been collaboration for instance, people like Lord Rothermere ( The Daily Mail ) were actively feathering their nests for the eventual take over as well as other members of the British aristocracy.

Jews and travellers would have had a hard time under the regime for sure, would there be a sort of Vichy style United Ireland as well?, as in one nation albeit ruled against the wishes of both communities on the Island.

Some Republicans had Nazi sympathies purely based on anti-Britishness however I think a German takeover would have split the movement even if they created a UI.

Saila · 03-09-2011 1:14pm

it would be some sort of superstate with one single currency...oh no wait!

Chris P. Bacon · 03-09-2011 1:15pm

We wouldnt have so many potholes.

squod · 03-09-2011 1:15pm

Sunnier

Saila · 03-09-2011 1:16pm

we might have good infrastructure in general and less of a lessaiz faire attitude

Einhard · 03-09-2011 1:16pm

Read Fatherland by Robert Harris. Gives a good idea of a post-Nazi Europe. It's chilling in "banality of evil" kind of way.

R P McMurphy · 03-09-2011 1:22pm

The circus circus casino in Las Vegas

ejmaztec · 03-09-2011 1:22pm

We'd all have free Hugo Boss suits and shiny boots.

krudler · 03-09-2011 1:24pm

impeccable dress sense, if you're gonna invade a country, have a kickass uniform.

The King of Moo · 03-09-2011 1:26pm

Not too different in this country, we'd just have fascist leaders with nice uniforms rather than silly vestments and hats.

Celly Smunt · 03-09-2011 1:26pm

the bus time table would be a time table not a guideline.

Tonto86 · 03-09-2011 1:27pm

Call of duty would be a a tad different...

Nodin · 03-09-2011 1:28pm

bayern282 wrote: »

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Jews and travellers would have had a hard time under the regime for sure, ........

Ever so slightly understating it there, I'd say.

As for the overall question "Not suffering from overpopulation" would be a safe bet.

DaBomb · 03-09-2011 1:29pm

We probably wouldn't be allowed use boards.ie :eek:

CrazyRabbit · 03-09-2011 1:31pm

Well Hitler wasn't exactly fond of Catholics either. I reckon that when he ran out of Jews to blame for everything, he would have turned on the Catholics.

I.E....we'd all be dead....we don't even number 6 million.

AnonoBoy · 03-09-2011 1:32pm

****e.

WindSock · 03-09-2011 1:33pm

Oh, I just remembered last nights dream. I was taking some crims to see auswichz on a tour in a train.

THe end

Cordially, windsock.

Celly Smunt · 03-09-2011 1:33pm

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Well Hitler wasn't exactly fond of Catholics either. I reckon that when he ran out of Jews to blame for everything, he would have turned on the Catholics.

I.E....we'd all be dead....we don't even number 6 million.

i think i'd pick hitler over the church

goose2005 · 03-09-2011 1:42pm

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Well Hitler wasn't exactly fond of Catholics either. I reckon that when he ran out of Jews to blame for everything, he would have turned on the Catholics.

I.E....we'd all be dead....we don't even number 6 million.

Unlikely. He himself was raised Catholic and would probably have tried to control the church or destroy it, but he wouldn't have wiped out the irish - as "Celts" we were high up enough in the racial chart.

It depends how Germany won as well - did they beat the Soviet Union or make an alliance?

DjFlin · 03-09-2011 1:45pm

I don't think he'd have done anything to the Irish. He never wanted to invade Britain, he only did because they declared war on him for invading France. We were neutral, so he probably would have just left us be. Interestingly enough, we may have had a 'United Ireland' in such a case.

Bloody Nipples · 03-09-2011 1:49pm

We'd have an autobóthar.

bigneacy · 03-09-2011 1:51pm

DjFlin wrote: »

I don't think he'd have done anything to the Irish. He never wanted to invade Britain, he only did because they declared war on him for invading France. We were neutral, so he probably would have just left us be. Interestingly enough, we may have had a 'United Ireland' in such a case.

Fire up the flux capacitor then so

paddyandy · 03-09-2011 1:51pm

All the mentally ill and psychically inferior in ireland would be eliminated so Our population would be half supplemented by aryan stock on special allowances would have brought it up to 7mn+-Crude estimate of course.

Wibbs · 03-09-2011 1:55pm

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Well Hitler wasn't exactly fond of Catholics either. I reckon that when he ran out of Jews to blame for everything, he would have turned on the Catholics.

Unlikely, contrary to very popular belief Hitler wasn't an atheist*. He was raised by a Catholic mother though his father was an agnostic. He was much closer to his mother his father being a distant figure. His public pronouncements in writing and speech were pro Christianity in the vast majority of cases. He was anti atheism as he saw it as a communist thing. Some have suggested privately he was the opposite but their sources are dubious. Unless the church came out actively against him(unlikely and in the event didn't) I'd bet he'd leave it alone. Or use it, like everything else.

What would Europe be like? You could look at Franco's Spain. He was one of the big three fascist leaders in Europe and the only one to die of old age in his bed.

*The religious love to trot that one out as a black mark against atheism, but its not correct.

plein de force · 03-09-2011 1:57pm

better roads
most people would speak german by now i'd say

dsmythy · 03-09-2011 1:59pm

DjFlin wrote: »

I don't think he'd have done anything to the Irish. He never wanted to invade Britain, he only did because they declared war on him for invading France. We were neutral, so he probably would have just left us be. Interestingly enough, we may have had a 'United Ireland' in such a case.

Irish people would have been dealt with to provide an Aryan island holiday getaway.

People talk about a United Ireland. Sure it would be a United Ireland - under the Third Reich. About as much of a United Ireland to Republicans as a United Ireland within the UK. UK & Ireland as one province would have been handier to the Nazis.

Reality is of course that the Nazi Third Reich would have gone the same way as the Soviet Union eventually after much blood spilt.

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 2:16pm

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Well Hitler wasn't exactly fond of Catholics either. I reckon that when he ran out of Jews to blame for everything, he would have turned on the Catholics..

If thats the case at least he had the decency to top himself first.

Hail 2 Da Thief · 03-09-2011 2:18pm

It would've been great GAS altogether!

wolfpawnat · 03-09-2011 2:27pm

On the up side, there would be no problems in the Gaza strip!

ejmaztec · 03-09-2011 2:34pm

Hail 2 Da Thief wrote: »

It would've been great GAS altogether!

Especially at Mosney, with plenty of arrivals on punctual trains, but no departures.:(

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 2:38pm

DjFlin wrote: »

I don't think he'd have done anything to the Irish. He never wanted to invade Britain, he only did because they declared war on him for invading France.

NIEDOSTATECZNY !

What do you think Europe/Ireland would be like if Hitler won ?

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