All Ireland SFC SF Mayo v Kerry 24/08 3.30pm RTE 2 HD, Sky Sports 3 HD

CountyHurler · 24-08-2014 4:12pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

To kick or attempt to kick an opponent with minimal force is a red card offence. No real doubt about it.

A lot of the time the referees would have backed away from sending the player off and taken the "cop out" of giving him a yellow card... The rule says that if you strike you are off, with no room for discretion. And on that basis the ref got it right and took the brave and difficult decision.

However, with that sending off, I think Mayo's chances may be gone also.

BrianBoru00 · 24-08-2014 4:12pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Should have been yellow.

But stupid from Keegan.

Why should it have been yellow? Do you know the rules of the game?

He's had it coming to him for several games now , should have got red in quarter final for an incident not picked up by the cameras..ill discipline - it was the correct decision by Coldrick and he has already gave two terrible "overcarrying" decisions against Kerry.

SeaFields · 24-08-2014 4:12pm

Enjoyable game so far. Absolute stupid thing to do out of that may lad. Don't give the ref an excuse to send you off. Simples.

Diabhal Beag · 24-08-2014 4:13pm

Buckley has been outstanding today

Dick Turnip · 24-08-2014 4:13pm

All the people saying it was a disgraceful, ridiculous decision, do they agree at least that Keegan did kick the kerry player (Buckley I think it was?)?

It was borderline and somewhat harsh in that there wasn't huge force behind it and Keegan was probably frustrated as the 2 kerry players weren't letting him go to take the free, but still it was stupid by Keegan. If I was from Mayo I'd be more pissed with Keegan rather than Coldrick.

AngeGal · 24-08-2014 4:13pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

So here's the rule verbatim:

So to everyone saying it was an awful decision, what's your reasoning apart from "it's ruined the game"? Stupid by Keegan and he's probably robbed his team of a third All Ireland final in a row.

Refs need to use common sense when applying the rule book. This ref failed in that regard.

Hammer Archer · 24-08-2014 4:13pm

JeffKenna wrote: »

You can be sure a Dublin player wouldn't have been sent off for that.

This is a game between Kerry and Mayo. Bringing Dublin into it, especially the way you have is derailing the topic.

threeball · 24-08-2014 4:13pm

happyoutscan wrote: »

Nonsense, pure nonsense.

Correct. Absolute crap. People seem to watch tiddlywinks or some soccer hybrid anymore. Any physicality dubbed niggly or dirty. Same thing in hurling is manly

Dirty Dingus McGee · 24-08-2014 4:14pm

Kerry are the better team so far and with the extra man should win now as they will be able to spray the ball around like they did for the last few minutes of the half.Its going to take a huge performance from Mayo in the second half. Aidan O'Shea really needs to get into the game, he's done almost nothing in the first half.Mayo will probably need goals in the second half perhaps bringing on Barry Moran and putting him in the edge of the square would give Mayo an easier route to the scoring zone and negate the loss off Keegan to a certain extent.

Lee Keegan was incredibly stupid.He did kick out and if its in the rules that a kick or an attempt to kick and opponent is a red card then he can have no excuses however incidents like that happen all the time and are never punished.

rebel girl 15 · 24-08-2014 4:15pm

the spirit of the game, not a bad belt - are they watching the game at all??

He can't give a yellow card because it is a strike/attempted strike

Shelflife · 24-08-2014 4:16pm

With my green and red tinted glasses on I feel that Kerry are stopping Mayo from taking quick frees and slowing down their game. This in turn is leading to some frustration from the Mayo players.

The red card was a simple choice for the ref, he had no option but to red card. It's a very soft red card but that is 100% the players fault.

Diabhal Beag · 24-08-2014 4:16pm

Didn't Aidan O'Shea take a push to the face prior to that too? I think it was a red anyways but there needs to be consistency.

niallo27 · 24-08-2014 4:16pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

So here's the rule verbatim:

So to everyone saying it was an awful decision, what's your reasoning apart from "it's ruined the game"? Stupid by Keegan and he's probably robbed his team of a third All Ireland final in a row.

I know I'm contradicting myself. If the rule was enforced every game, there would be 6 or 7 players sent off every game.

Rightwing · 24-08-2014 4:16pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

To kick or attempt to kick an opponent with minimal force is a red card offence. No real doubt about it.

This is simply ridiculous. If a ref imposed that, you could end the game with 2 keepers. Refs need to apply judgement.

CountyHurler · 24-08-2014 4:16pm

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

the spirit of the game, not a bad belt - are they watching the game at all?

Yeah, I don't understand why they keep using that phrase "spirit of the game" in reference to this game.. it's hardly vintage, free flowing stuff..

threeball · 24-08-2014 4:17pm

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

the spirit of the game, not a bad belt - are they watching the game at all??

He can't give a yellow card because it is a strike/attempted strike

if gaelic sports were reffed with no discretion and directly to code every game would end in a sevens match

randd1 · 24-08-2014 4:18pm

If that was a red, shouldn't Buckley for Kerry have got a red for attempting to strike the opponent with his fist immediately beforehand? A strike is a strike.

Aubrey loves Joe · 24-08-2014 4:18pm

Although it has been a poorish game Kerry did kick some lovely scores

copacetic · 24-08-2014 4:19pm

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Didn't Aidan O'Shea take a push to the face prior to that too? I think it was a red anyways but there needs to be consistency.

He also kicked jame O'Donohue right in the centre of the chest.

Lapin · 24-08-2014 4:19pm

I hate all this crap about rules being rules etc blah blah etc.

The ref is a grown man and has the use of discretion.

He bottled it, hid behind his rule book and fucked up the game.

A yellow would have being perfectly justified there.

Rachel Wyse banging on the studio wall next door there telling Brolly to keep the bloody noise down.

TCDStudent1 · 24-08-2014 4:20pm

copacetic wrote: »

He also kicked jame O'Donohue right in the centre of the chest.

In fairness, I think that 1 looked like an accident.

rebel girl 15 · 24-08-2014 4:21pm

threeball wrote: »

if gaelic sports were reffed with no discretion and directly to code every game would end in a sevens match

But they wouldn't - first time it was done teams would very quickly change their style

Hammer Archer · 24-08-2014 4:21pm

Rightwing wrote: »

This is simply ridiculous. If a ref imposed that, you could end the game with 2 keepers. Refs need to apply judgement.

The rule is there in black and white. People constantly slate the GAA for grey areas in the rules yet here's a rule that's unequivocal and people are slating the referee for applying it. And I don't often see kicks/strikes from every outfield player in every game.

Diabhal Beag · 24-08-2014 4:21pm

copacetic wrote: »

He also kicked jame O'Donohue right in the centre of the chest.

That wasn't intentional at all

TCDStudent1 · 24-08-2014 4:21pm

randd1 wrote: »

If that was a red, shouldn't Buckley for Kerry have got a red for attempting to strike the opponent with his fist immediately beforehand? A strike is a strike.

Did he attempt to strike the opponent or attempt to strike the ball?
With Keegan, the attempt was clearly on the man without the ball.

Rightwing · 24-08-2014 4:22pm

Lapin wrote: »

I hate all this crap about rules being rules etc blah blah etc.

The ref is a grown man and has the use of discretion.

He bottled it, hid behind his rule book and fucked up the game.

A yellow would have being perfectly justified there.

Rachel Wyse banging on the studio wall next door there telling Brolly to keep the bloody noise down.

There's a few things wrong here:
1. GAA with stupid, amateur rules
2. Ref
3. Analysts afraid to have a right go at the ref.

ted2767 · 24-08-2014 4:22pm

Harsh in that it was a nothing sort of incident.

However it was asking for trouble on Keegan's part and an incredibly stupid thing for an experienced player to do.

He left the ref with no option and fair play he actually applied the rules.

Aubrey loves Joe · 24-08-2014 4:22pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Did he attempt to strike the opponent or attempt to strike the ball?
With Keegan, the attempt was clearly on the man without the ball.

I thought first it was the man but on the replay it def looked like he was trying to punch the ball

Lapin · 24-08-2014 4:22pm

Rightwing wrote: »

There's a few things wrong here:
1. GAA with stupid, amateur rules
2. Ref
3. Analysts afraid to have a right go at the ref.

Whats wrong where ?

EDIT:

I have it - You're on about the game and coverage rather tham my post.

Yep, I agree. A good few things wrong.

megadodge · 24-08-2014 4:23pm

copacetic wrote: »

He also kicked jame O'Donohue right in the centre of the chest.

I strongly suggest you give up watching sport where there's any physical contact altogether.

That was so obviously an accident, as O'Donoghue tripped him up and he was falling that it's stunning anybody would pretend otherwise.

CountyHurler · 24-08-2014 4:23pm

Is Brolly snorting cocaine during the break?

Browney7 · 24-08-2014 4:23pm

AngeGal wrote: »

Refs need to use common sense when applying the rule book. This ref failed in that regard.

But he attempted to kick him? Slating the ref for enforcing the rules shows how difficult it is to ref the game. Stupid kick but if you're going to get sent off for something make sure its for something good!

DoctaDee · 24-08-2014 4:23pm

Mayo were barely treading water before the red card. Thought it was a poor decision starting Freeman, COC is their only outlet. 35 mins to show what they're made of.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 24-08-2014 4:24pm

Attendance: 52,495

kala85 · 24-08-2014 4:24pm

Will Lee Keegan miss the all ireland now if mayo qualify

copacetic · 24-08-2014 4:24pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

In fairness, I think that 1 looked like an accident.

Probably, but it was a pretty unusual foot movement to kick down like that with your toe as you fall on top of someone. Similar to the stamp on Donncha Walshes hand a little before the red card, probably accidental, but the borderline harmless kicks/stamps were building up in number for Mayo before the red card.

I'd have said sending off might actually give Mayo a chance, if it forces them to try and play football now. Horan is notoriously bad at making changes during a game, but this will force his hand and give us a game hopefully.

Reality_Check1 · 24-08-2014 4:24pm

Im really sorry keegan got sent off! all it has done is given mayo fans the excuse they so desperately want to explain their croke park capitulation that occurs at this time every year

keith16 · 24-08-2014 4:24pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

The rule is there in black and white. People constantly slate the GAA for grey areas in the rules yet here's a rule that's unequivocal and people are slating the referee for applying it. And I don't often see kicks/strikes from every outfield player in every game.

He ignored the strike on Keegan just prior to him kicking out. Whistle had gone yet the Kerry player continued to strike. Where is his card?

TCDStudent1 · 24-08-2014 4:24pm

Mayo still have hope in this.

Kerry dont look that super (they havent a hope of beating the winner of Dublin - Donegal).

Mayo have created goal chances. They can still do this. Taking Gibbons off is a good move. They need to reduce the influence of David Moran.

Not over yet,

Rightwing · 24-08-2014 4:24pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

The rule is there in black and white. People constantly slate the GAA for grey areas in the rules yet here's a rule that's unequivocal and people are slating the referee for applying it. And I don't often see kicks/strikes from every outfield player in every game.

Imagine if rugby had a rule 'an attempt to gouge' etc? It's laughable.

Da Shins Kelly · 24-08-2014 4:25pm

Mayo would want to start closing in instead of standing off them so much this half. Keegan will be a huge loss, but they need to do something here.

Aubrey loves Joe · 24-08-2014 4:25pm

That's another lovely score.

MeIsGod · 24-08-2014 4:25pm

Cluxton got a red card not so long ago against mayo for something similar and every mayo clown came out saying it was a justified red, Keegan does it and its the kerry players fault for frustrating him

copacetic · 24-08-2014 4:26pm

megadodge wrote: »

I strongly suggest you give up watching sport where there's any physical contact altogether.

That was so obviously an accident, as O'Donoghue tripped him up and he was falling that it's stunning anybody would pretend otherwise.

Cheers for that suggestion, it was in response to the claim that an accidental bump to the head on AOS should have been a red.

rebel girl 15 · 24-08-2014 4:26pm

Good save there

Dyr · 24-08-2014 4:26pm

niallo27 wrote: »

I know I'm contradicting myself. If the rule was enforced every game, there would be 6 or 7 players sent off every game.

If the player is stupid enough to give the give the ref no choice by commiting a blatant text book foul in front of him then you can't blame the ref

niallo27 · 24-08-2014 4:26pm

Reality_Check1 wrote: »

Im really sorry keegan got sent off! all it has done is given mayo fans the excuse they so desperately want to explain their croke park capitulation that occurs at this time every year

They are pretty good at this time of the year in fairness.

Lapin · 24-08-2014 4:27pm

That should have been a red card.

windy shepard henderson · 24-08-2014 4:27pm

it was no sending off, but the qustion would ask is what diffrence is it going to make considering james horan and the mayo sideline seem to have bottled it with there tactics,

mayo didnt get this far or to last years all ireland for that matter trying to play like donegal, tactics all wrong i think they went 14mins without a score at the end of the first half with there running scared tactics , they are far better then that

CountyHurler · 24-08-2014 4:27pm

The worry is now that the ref will take some fairly moderate Kerry infringement and hand out a red card to balance things up..

That James O'Donoghue lad gets some power in his kicks.. He's a class act.

All Ireland SFC SF Mayo v Kerry 24/08 3.30pm RTE 2 HD, Sky Sports 3 HD

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