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Classic wooden speedboat build , sink, search for, recovery and rebuild.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭gutteruu


    15k would buy you enough wood to build this... Number 1 on my bucket list is to build one of these some day.

    What is the next project?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    gutteruu wrote: »
    15k would buy you enough wood to build this... Number 1 on my bucket list is to build one of these some day.

    What is the next project?

    Don't put off till your dying what you can do today:D Have a look at the Glen-l Tahoe 23, Monaco and riviera they are all in your hands you just have to let them out :)


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Hmmmmm



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,531 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    What's goin' on here? I'm confused, Ted :confused:


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Any idea now :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,531 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Emmmm........ not really!

    But it's looking more boat-related than patio-heater-related now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭JamesM


    Two lovely pieces of stainless ? steel salvaged from broken heater FOR ????


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Transom Bands :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,531 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Well now. I'd have been a LONG time guessing that.

    Only you could see transom bands (new one on me!), or indeed any sort of a boat part, in a fallen-down patio heater :D


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    A bit more red leather I might also put a glove box on the left hand side :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    What are the plans for the engine cover? Gonna do something on rails?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    What are the plans for the engine cover? Gonna do something on rails?

    I'm playing around with linear actuators they are like electric rams that will lift the hatch up :D



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    A few photos from the weekend.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Daibheid


    It's impossible to decide which is the best side/angle in the photos - it just looks perfect from any angle. The conditions looked nice too.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    And it looks like I made the Glen-L face book page :Dhttps://www.facebook.com/glenlboatplans?ref=stream
    fergal.b wrote: »
    A few photos from the weekend.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 40 IreJohn


    Congratulations Fergal, recognition well earned !


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    She's famous :D "well almost"

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  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭Talent


    Thought of you when I got my mag in the post this morning!


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    A bit more testing over the weekend, I seem to be getting a bit of a vortex at the back of the boat and it's forcing water spray up the transom and soaking my back :rolleyes: I might have to fit a spray rail across the transom or try and find whats causing the spray maybe fit a Gopro to have a good look unless someone has a wind tunnel I can use :D





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  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭Talent


    Looks like the overwater profile of the boat may be playing a part. At a guess you are getting vortices coming off each side which may be interacting with each other around the transom. If they meet in phase they can reinforce each other. My untrained eye suggests that the wash coming off the hull bottom is relatively clean. Are you getting exhaust fumes with the backwash?

    BTW passed you out going down the MI on Friday close to lunchtime. We were in a reddish Ford Focus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭breghall


    Are your tabs sitting below the waterline and being dragged through the water? I use a GoPro if you can get your hands on one defintely .


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    No smell of fumes and the tabs are a few mm above the bottom of the transom, the bow looks a bit low so I might give the tabs a few turns to bring it up and see how that works.





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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    I don't believe any of that stuff.:P Everything Fergal does is perfect; he knows exactly what is wrong, he's just screwin' around so that he has an excuse to get out on the water ('Dear, I really do need to get afloat to test my most recent adjustments to the trim tabs.') :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    I don't believe any of that stuff.:P Everything Fergal does is perfect; he knows exactly what is wrong, he's just screwin' around so that he has an excuse to get out on the water ('Dear, I really do need to get afloat to test my most recent adjustments to the trim tabs.') :D:D

    You need to turn it up a bit, be a cranky old man at home till she sends you out on the water then come home a new happy man who is joy to live with.

    It works but she may send you to see a shrink to see if you are bi-polar, explain it to them and they'll understand


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    I got the use of a wind tunnel and this is whats happening :)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTRRPNWBGEM





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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    After a bit of playing around with the trim tabs I think I have it sorted now :) all nice and dry and a happy passenger :D




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    One of the things that was bugging me was the black plastic cover on the steering column it just didn't look the part.

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    So with the help of DeVore on the woodcraft forum this is what we came up with :)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 221 ✭✭Schindlers Pissed


    I know nothing about boats but Old's Cool is an absolute beauty…….and I love the name!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Sadler32


    Wow Fergal, I have been following the thread. Your work is amazing and the name is a stroke of genius.

    I have a quick question you might be able to help me with. I am looking for a dinghy I can restore. I have just gotten a motorboat on the shannon and want something i can use and stow in the davits.
    The boat is 13ft wide, so looking for a dinghy around 12ft. I dont mind if it is grp or wood. I would perfer wooden, clinker built. But I want a medium sized project.

    My question is do you know any good places to look??
    I have looked on DD and all the usual places, but there isnt anything suitable. And the ones that "I could make do with" have prices are silly.
    And I dont want to just make do.

    Any advise would be greatly appreciated.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Hi Sadler32 thanks. I have no better places to look than the usual :) maybe something like these.

    http://www.donedeal.ie/boats-for-sale/boat/7771899

    http://www.donedeal.ie/boats-for-sale/small-fiberglass-boat/7795882

    http://www.adverts.ie/boats/boat/6687592

    http://www.adverts.ie/boats/punt-tender-small-boat/6841527

    Failing that you could build your own :) or have one built for you at a price :eek: Ask on the forum maybe one of the others has one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Sadler32


    Hi Fergal.

    Thanks for that. I am actually leaning towards the building option, there are a few plans out there that suit. Just thought it would be easier to start with something already built. It would be nice to have something that could be sailed and motored. I was looking out for sailing dinghies, however I am now thinking that the ideal rowing dinghy could be converted...


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    If you start up your own post on the forum we can take it from there and throw around a few ideas as I would like to try and keep this post on the topic of my build if possible.
    Cheers


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  • Registered Users Posts: 376 ✭✭hubba


    You said 12ft but would you be persuaded to go as long as 14ft? If so, I am involved in racing 14ft wooden dinghies and could put the word out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Sadler32


    Hi Hubba. sent you a pm. Lets keep this thread to Fergal`s amazing build.....


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    I came across this it's a 1937 century thunderbolt the engine hatch is something like the one that I was building but I'm not sure I like it now :confused: might have to rethink it :rolleyes:

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    It looks too much like a Subaru Impreza with that thing on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭gutteruu


    Personally I like the curve. I never understood the people on Glen-l putting big square box on a lovely curved boat. Always looked like a bodged job to me. But, each to their own I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭JamesM


    Looking at this side on photo, I would have a curve rising from the front of the opening to the highest point. Then curving slightly downward. finishing straight down to the deck, either parallel with the transom or the windscreen.
    http://s753.photobucket.com/user/fergalbutler/media/crackerbox/ferg04_zpsf7006bd9.jpg.html
    Not sure if that is clear :confused:


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    A little engine video, she deserves it :D



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Sanding down for a few more coats of varnish :)

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    I had to tape off the caulking as the varnish won't set on it.

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    3 more coats buffed up she is starting to get that deep shine now maybe just 3 more next year :)

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Not the best weekend I have had :( Old's Cool is now sitting at the bottom of Lough Ree in about 40 foot of water We left portlick bay at about 12.30 and headed to Killinure point to meet up with some other boats then we headed to Lanesborough for the summer prom festival the water was quite calm and it was a pleasant trip up, arriving at about 2.00 we stayed for an hour and then headed back to portlick after about half an hour we got hit with a large hail shower and the waves got alot bigger very quick we were doing 10 knots just to keep the bow up above the waves but I came down off one hard and nosed dived into another swamping the boat and killing the engine, with no forward motion I then got turned sideways and hit by two more waves that filled the boat and down she went all within 30 seconds I didn't even have time to make a SOS call but luckly the other boat that was with me saw what happened and came back to pull me out of the water, the important thing is that I'm here to tell the story and thats all that counts.
    These are the last few photos of her and a little video of us heading that morning.

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  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Oh no! :(

    Glad you're OK...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭gutteruu


    Thats awful news. Has to be soul crushing. Surely it can't be that big an operation to get the lough ree diving club to rescue it for you? Few balloons tied to engine and float to top and pump it out? Has to be worth a few hundred quids effort ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,531 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Holy **** :eek:

    Well first things first, glad to hear you're ok.

    Secondly, glad to hear you're ok.

    Just goes to show how the weather can turn, even on a lake.

    Hopefully there might be the tiniest chance of recovery - worth investigating at least.

    Glad to hear you're ok.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Glad to hear you are ok!

    Sorry to hear about the boat, I'd say that was a bit of a fright

    Take care of yourself


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    Thanks, the search and recovery will be going out as soon as the weather picks up "if it ever does" and my insurance should cover that, even if they can only find one bit of wood off her I will be able to rebuild her. :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭mufflets2


    Oh jesus no! Glad you are ok. If there is anything I can do to help get her back - Give me a shout. (David)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    What a gutter.

    Not really into boats, but my Dad always was and sometimes I feel I ought to be :o. I've dipped in and out of your thread over the while.

    Glad you're OK Fergal. ;)


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