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TUF 19 - Penn, Edgar + Pendred & Fields! **Spoilers**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Nappy


    Cathal did well to be chosen before other fighters considering he didn't get to showcase his skills. It's a huge advantage for him considering he didn't have to take any damage going into his first fight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭Tom.D.BJJ


    I almost puked when I seen the dogbar in the last fight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Cathal
    obviously wins next week as one of the clips in the outro was him squaring up to a guy with a Mexican flag wrapped around his head while people sing Olé Olé Olé.


  • Registered Users Posts: 42 D35


    Very clever editing at the end, it looks like BJ's team is really pissed at the decision but this is not "K-Hills" fight if you pause it you can see one of the trainers in a dark blue shirt with his hand on the Irish flag, not the same T-shirt from the pissed of scene. Come on the Irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭osl


    The clip with Cathal in the outro was of next weeks square off so not a spoiler


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭hefferboi


    D35 wrote: »
    Very clever editing at the end, it looks like BJ's team is really pissed at the decision but this is not "K-Hills" fight if you pause it you can see one of the trainers in a dark blue shirt with his hand on the Irish flag, not the same T-shirt from the pissed of scene. Come on the Irish

    That wasn't showing next weeks highlights, though. It was showing what was to come from the whole season.

    The way they pronounce Cathal is annoying already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,049 ✭✭✭cletus


    Delighted to see The Hammer in as an assistant coach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    osl wrote: »
    The clip with Cathal in the outro was of next weeks square off so not a spoiler

    Actually, this would make sense as Urbina is the only 185er on Edgar's team who is of Mexican decent............. carry on :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Felt pretty bad for that lad coming in for a 2nd attempt. Was absolutely dominating the fight but obviously became a bit complacent and left the arm in.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 423 ✭✭CM24


    Next week......
    Looks like he gets floored with a hard uppercut there near the end. It's going to be unusual for Cathal not being able to physically overpower his opponents like he does at welterweight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Just a quick reminder lads....Put spoiler tags on your posts that refer to future episodes, even if it's only speculation as to what may happen based on the previews.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    John_D80 wrote: »
    Anyone else think BJ was very relaxed about his first fight selection?

    I mean, if I was a coach I would have selected a guy I had seen fight already and win well and pick an opponent to suit him. He didn't even realise he could pick the opponent until it was pointed out to him and even then he just said 'whoever was their last pick'. Giving up control can be disastrous for a team in TUF.

    Dont get me wrong here, I am absolutely delighted for Pendred that he has a chance to prove himself, as he must have been very disappointed when he got the bye but I just though BJ was far too easy going about it.

    I think BJ played the fool very well. He was a coach back in series 5(?) so he knows the score alright.

    I thought Fields was very lucky getting through as he was behind in the fight, good luck to the Irish lads, I'm looking forward to next weeks show.


    Lot of respect between BJ & Edgar on show which I'm delighted about, should mean no over dramatic coaches fued that usually gets dreamt up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    Can someone tell me why cathal got a by, i cant figure it out they never said why on the show?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭hefferboi


    amkin25 wrote: »
    Can someone tell me why cathal got a by, i cant figure it out they never said why on the show?

    Dana said at the start that everyone they lined up to fight him had to pull out due to injury, not making weight, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    It's not cathal.... It's Cah Hawl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    It's not cathal.... It's Cah Hawl
    No, it's Coth-al. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,923 ✭✭✭kearneybobs


    Watching it, I was quite nervous actually. Wanted the lads to do well even though it was fairly well known that they were in the house before the episode aired. Was unfortunate that they got into the house the way they did but sure, they're in there.

    The last fight was brilliant and by the sound of Pendred on Twitter he seems to have gotten on well with King in the house.

    Nordine was also a member of the TUF Nations cast and fought at the weekend in the UFC. Seems as though that if the UFC want you in there they're willing to give you a couple of chances.

    Looking forward to the rest of it. Penn seemed a little aloof when chatting to Dana/Frankie during the fight. As if he wasn't listening to what they said, didn't get their jokes or was just ignoring them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    CM24 wrote: »
    Next week......
    Looks like he gets floored with a hard uppercut there near the end. It's going to be unusual for Cathal not being able to physically overpower his opponents like he does at welterweight.

    It's not really a spoiler unless you have inside information from someone,i doubt if that punch was a factor in the outcome that it would have been shown in the previews.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Just watched it, nice few fights, felt bad for the French guy going home when lesser fighters got through but I guess that's the way it goes. Had to laugh when conor said luck of the irish.

    Did I read something here that fields had an injury going into the fight?

    Also, of the thousands of people who applied for the show, surely one person would have been ready to be called up to fight ca-haawl ?

    Can't wait to see his fight next week!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Cathal Pendred's TUF blog. Explains how he ended up getting a bye into the house and also sheds light on Nordine Taleb's crossover to TUF Nations.


    themmacorner.com/2014/04/16/cathal-pendreds-ultimate-fighter-19-blog-week-one/


  • Registered Users Posts: 650 ✭✭✭csallmighty


    Glad to see the knockout in the trailers wasn't Pendred. He has a slight advantage now being fresh but it could also be detrimental the first fight can settle nerves and help with sharpness.

    Looked like Fields was losing until the other guys injury but a win is a win.

    Already annoyed with the Cathal pronunciation :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but wasn't that French guy on TUF Nations - Canada vs. Australia?

    EDIT: Sorry I can see it was mentioned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭sdowling04


    Really looking forward to this now. Cathal looks in great shape and it looks to be quite a war from the preview. Kinda worried about the big uppercut shown at the end.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Should be good fight, he has a lot to prove getting into the house without fighting.

    (I not taking anything away from him before anyone jumps down my throat over it)

    I assumed it was cause he had title he got a pass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    dave1982 wrote: »
    I assumed it was cause he had title he got a pass
    His opponent slipped getting out of the bath making weight and couldn't fight.
    They was 2 alternates ready, but both felled through - missed weight and injury respectively.
    Just a lucky series of events


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭Cyber Ghost


    Man that guy Chris Fields blew hard. Absolutely terrible performance. Never been a more accurate example of the luck of the Irish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Man that guy Chris Fields blew hard. Absolutely terrible performance. Never been a more accurate example of the luck of the Irish.

    Did you see the full fight??

    Bit unfair to say he 'blew' based on the very short edit that was presented to us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    John_D80 wrote: »
    Did you see the full fight??

    Bit unfair to say he 'blew' based on the very short edit that was presented to us.

    Was it a short edit? I thought it was a short fight in general! I thought he was getting beaten yes but he was also coming back into the fight and was throwing some good shots


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    With all due respect to chris field's and i'd hope i'm wrong and he goes on and does well ,i just can't see him getting past his next fight.
    He doesn't look up to this level of competition at all ,we have a way to go before we have a few top mma fighters in ireland .Hopefully there's some coming through but chris fields doesn't look up to it at all .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭hefferboi


    Is the next ep on tonight or tomorrow?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    Tomorrow night i think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    amkin25 wrote: »
    With all due respect to chris field's and i'd hope i'm wrong and he goes on and does well ,i just can't see him getting past his next fight.
    He doesn't look up to this level of competition at all ,we have a way to go before we have a few top mma fighters in ireland .Hopefully there's some coming through but chris fields doesn't look up to it at all .

    Fields had a popped rib going into that fight:

    https://twitter.com/IrishMMAFan1/status/456763163229556736


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Fields had a popped rib going into that fight.

    I knew I read that somewhere before, that would definitely explain it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    Underestimate Chris Fields at your own peril. The chap has terrifying kicks. I don't know much about his ground-game, but if he can get a fight that stays on the feet, he could go really far.

    I think it was pointed out in Cathal's blog post
    that the knee that popped on Fields' opponent was the same knee/leg he had been working with kicks
    .


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,748 ✭✭✭rolexeagle1


    c'mon KAZ!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭hefferboi


    Anyone watching this? Don't like that Urbina lad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    Cathal's lack of head movement has gotta be a concern moving forward, he took some pretty big shots in that first round. Showed some great heart to stay in the fight after being rocked. Did exactly what he needed to do in the third round. Delighted to see him win!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭davidsatelle100


    Thought the knees were going to finish the fight in the wrong way. Good to see him going through but seemed to lack any ideas in the third other than hold him down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Oregano_State


    Just watched ep2 there.
    Cathal did very well to come back after that uppercut in R1, it looked like he was pretty much out for a second or two. I thought his striking looked pretty slow and clumsy if I'm being honest, although after the first round he did a very a good job of out-wrestling an american-trained wrestler. Although he was clearly dominant after R1, I thought he could have made more of an effort to work a submission or land telling strikes instead of seemingly being happy to take Urbina down and control him.

    If Cathal has aspirations of being successful in the UFC proper, then he should be making lighter work of fighters like Urbina.

    Am I being too harsh?


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Am I the only one who thinks he should be a lot faster coming up from Welterweight, half the fight looked slow motion.
    Mazzagatti got it right though it was a hard fought decision and he showed an unreal amount of heart in that fight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    I also thought he seemed very slow and lacked ideas. I almost felt like I was watching Mark Coleman...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    hefferboi wrote: »
    Anyone watching this? Don't like that Urbina lad.

    Racist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,767 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    I also thought he seemed very slow and lacked ideas. I almost felt like I was watching Mark Coleman...

    Lacking ideas?? He was obviously a round down after 1. He needed to win the next two rounds aftdr which he did. What ideas should he of come up with. His game plan worked.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Pretty easy win but there's so much more to come from Cathal, i thought he looked very rusty in there.

    As for Hector, i think he spent most of the third trying to entice Cathal into an illegal knee, after Mazagatti had warned him during the break


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    scudzilla wrote: »
    Pretty easy win but there's so much more to come from Cathal, i thought he looked very rusty in there.

    As for Hector, i think he spent most of the third trying to entice Cathal into an illegal knee, after Mazagatti had warned him during the break

    I hate it when people play the system like that. I remember in the GSP Hendricks fight when Hendricks was doing that Herb was trying to discourage him from doing it which I thought was really cool.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭amkin25


    Glad he got past him but i can't see his style ever being successful in the ufc that just cut jake shields also cut okami, fitch these type of fighters dont last in the ufc.
    He needs more offense when in control he tends to just lie on top of guys a lot i noticed that in some of his other fights, hes always gonna be a wrestler more than a stand up fighter but hes gotta be an exciting wrestler to last, that means lots of elbows and punches when u got someone down .
    Hopefully he improves in the house and becomes a bit more offensive with some help from bj.


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