2014 Cups & Shields

Rikand · 14-07-2014 7:26pm

Redriddick wrote: »

Roscommon are in there too!!!!

yeah, they got through from the North zone. Sligo too

Congrats Roscommon

Athlone Beat Portumna in the morning, but we were beaten by Athenry in the evening which put them through. Athlone lost 2 matches on the 18th and 1 on the 19th. We won one on 19 too.

Sligored · 14-07-2014 10:17pm

Connacht finals in my home club,Strandhill - not playing enough to be involved in the bruen myself.

Saturday August 9:

10.00 – 11.21hrs Irish Junior Cup Provincial Semi-Finals
10.00 – 10.36hrs Roscommon Vs Galway
10.45 – 11.21hrs County Sligo Vs Athenry

11.45 – 11.21hrs Pierce Purcell Shield Semi-Finals
11.45 – 12.21hrs Castlebar Vs Galway
12.30 – 13.06hrs Roscommon Vs Enniscrone

13.30 – 14.51hrs Jimmy Bruen Shield Semi-Finals
13.30 – 14.06hrs Strandhill Vs Castlebar
14.15 – 14.51hrs Tuam Vs Oughterard

ozymandias10 · 21-07-2014 11:42am

Spanish Point beat Thurles 4.5/.5 in the pierce Purcell Munster Final on Saturday. they are the current Holders of the all Ireland. some achievement with a small membership to be able to field a winning team two years in a row. don't know how different the team is this year but they must be very proud.

Lisselan Won the Bruen. they are only a nine hole course as well. They beat Tralee in the final 3/2. deciding match went to the 21st. that was tight

matt-dublin · 21-07-2014 11:51am

Druids heath vs athy and corrstown vs ardee in the Barton cup semi final

BraveDonut · 21-07-2014 12:16pm

Bray beat Castle in the semi-final of the Metropolitan trophy yesterday

Freemount09 · 21-07-2014 1:32pm

ozymandias10 wrote: »

Spanish Point beat Thurles 4.5/.5 in the pierce Purcell Munster Final on Saturday. they are the current Holders of the all Ireland. some achievement with a small membership to be able to field a winning team two years in a row. don't know how different the team is this year but they must be very proud.

How is that possible ? Thought the remaining matches were called in once they had 3 points on the board ? Meaning 3.5 / 1.5 was the biggest margin possible ?

I'd say they must be very proud alright :cool:

Goldenjohn · 21-07-2014 1:40pm

Sligored wrote: »

Connacht finals in my home club,Strandhill - not playing enough to be involved in the bruen myself.

Saturday August 9:

10.00 – 11.21hrs Irish Junior Cup Provincial Semi-Finals
10.00 – 10.36hrs Roscommon Vs Galway
10.45 – 11.21hrs County Sligo Vs Athenry

11.45 – 11.21hrs Pierce Purcell Shield Semi-Finals
11.45 – 12.21hrs Castlebar Vs Galway
12.30 – 13.06hrs Roscommon Vs Enniscrone

13.30 – 14.51hrs Jimmy Bruen Shield Semi-Finals
13.30 – 14.06hrs Strandhill Vs Castlebar
14.15 – 14.51hrs Tuam Vs Oughterard

Sligored, Any advice for playing strandhill? I presume matches will be off the blue tees?

Paulusmaximus · 21-07-2014 1:45pm

Freemount09 wrote: »

How is that possible ? Thought the remaining matches were called in once they had 3 points on the board ? Meaning 3.5 / 1.5 was the biggest margin possible ?

I'd say they must be very proud alright :cool:

biggest margin would be 4-1. 3 wins and then 2 "halves".

However what may have happened is that 2 matches were over and then two matches finished at the same/similar time giving the 4.5-.5 scoreline.

amazing achievement for such a small membership club to be able to find a winning team two years in a row, especially what with cuts from winning it last year and then their resultant cuts from their good golf over the last two years. Must be a conveyor belt of mid handicap talent available to them.

ozymandias10 · 21-07-2014 1:56pm

Paulusmaximus wrote: »

biggest margin would be 4-1. 3 wins and then 2 "halves".

However what may have happened is that 2 matches were over and then two matches finished at the same/similar time giving the 4.5-.5 scoreline.

amazing achievement for such a small membership club to be able to find a winning team two years in a row, especially what with cuts from winning it last year and then their resultant cuts from their good golf over the last two years. Must be a conveyor belt of mid handicap talent available to them.

just saw that the bruen and Purcell were separate days (normally same day) couldn't understand why. Spanish Point were in the Bruen Munster semi final as well....Must have had guys playing in both

ozymandias10 · 21-07-2014 2:00pm

Paulusmaximus wrote: »

However what may have happened is that 2 matches were over and then two matches finished at the same/similar time giving the 4.5-.5 scoreline.

.

that is what happened. Thurles believed they had a very good team. Must have froze or something.Is it unusual to see a winning margin like that for teams that got to the final?

Freemount09 · 21-07-2014 2:14pm

ozymandias10 wrote: »

that is what happened. Thurles believed they had a very good team. Must have froze or something.Is it unusual to see a winning margin like that for teams that got to the final?

Don't know is it that unusual to see a winning margin like that ? Think it was something similar last year !!

PARlance · 21-07-2014 4:55pm

Thurles v Spanish Point in the Pierce Purcell..., they should have had that on TV, I'd say there were a few lads that could've won the Open on both teams.

Sligored · 21-07-2014 7:37pm

Goldenjohn wrote: »

Sligored, Any advice for playing strandhill? I presume matches will be off the blue tees?

not sure about bruen or jun cup but the pierce purcell will be off the whites.
no trouble at the back of greens in strandhill and a lot of greens have a back stops , hit the extra club if not sure.
Wind plays a big part in strategy in strandhill so i dont want to say lay up here or hit an iron off the tee but if you can hit a low 4 iron, its a better percentage shot than a 3 wood.
Course in great shape , greens like carpets but bunkers bad , flooded during winter and were never dug out , its like cement mix underneath.
Practice facilities poor , use brees driving range near ransboro church , about 4 miles away on back road into strandhill.

opinionated3 · 21-07-2014 7:42pm

ozymandias10 wrote: »

just saw that the bruen and Purcell were separate days (normally same day) couldn't understand why. Spanish Point were in the Bruen Munster semi final as well....Must have had guys playing in both

I believe that 5 of the pp panel are also playing bruen.....

Goldenjohn · 21-07-2014 8:49pm

Sligored wrote: »

not sure about bruen or jun cup but the pierce purcell will be off the whites.
no trouble at the back of greens in strandhill and a lot of greens have a back stops , hit the extra club if not sure.
Wind plays a big part in strategy in strandhill so i dont want to say lay up here or hit an iron off the tee but if you can hit a low 4 iron, its a better percentage shot than a 3 wood.
Course in great shape , greens like carpets but bunkers bad , flooded during winter and were never dug out , its like cement mix underneath.
Practice facilities poor , use brees driving range near ransboro church , about 4 miles away on back road into strandhill.

Thanks, btw do they have a stroke saver?

ozymandias10 · 22-07-2014 10:16am

opinionated3 wrote: »

I believe that 5 of the pp panel are also playing bruen.....

that's half the team..has anyone ever won both bruen and Purcell even provincial in the same year....hard enough to get one strong team together let alone two

opinionated3 · 22-07-2014 10:23am

Not really sure how they are doing it tbh. Heard a few of them have distance membership...... Don't live near Spanish point at all. Also heard some of them previously represented a good team from woodstock in ennis. I was only told this by fellow golfers. The standard of their play is exceptional. Played against one of their pairing this year and when one of them told me he was off 13 I couldn't believe it. Fantastic ball striking and virtually straight every time. He reminded me of my regular playing partner for casual rounds. ...... and he plays off 5.....

Paulusmaximus · 22-07-2014 10:27am

opinionated3 wrote: »

Not really sure how they are doing it tbh. Heard a few of them have distance membership...... Don't live near Spanish point at all. Also heard some of them previously represented a good team from woodstock in ennis. I was only told this by fellow golfers. The standard of their play is exceptional. Played against one of their pairing this year and when one of them told me he was off 13 I couldn't believe it. Fantastic ball striking and virtually straight every time. He reminded me of my regular playing partner for casual rounds. ...... and he plays off 5.....

do you require 4 singles cards from the previous year to play in the Bruen and Pierce Purcell?

opinionated3 · 22-07-2014 10:28am

I think but I'm not certain. I'm sure someone here will confirm.

Freemount09 · 22-07-2014 10:44am

Paulusmaximus wrote: »

do you require 4 singles cards from the previous year to play in the Bruen and Pierce Purcell?

I think its 3 ?

Spanish Point actually got DQ'ed after the 1st round of PP last year, cause I believe that one of their players didn't meet this 3 or 4 cards rule from the previous year. But as luck would have it, the club found a card or something and the ruling got overturned and they were allowed back in and won the whole thing !

Has their team changed much over the last 2 years does anyone know ?

Russman · 22-07-2014 11:03am

opinionated3 wrote: »

I believe that 5 of the pp panel are also playing bruen.....

IF that's true (I haven't a clue one way or the other), but, if its true, there's something very wrong with that IMO. No way should a player who qualifies for PP be able to play at Bruen standard in the latter stages of the competition, I don't care what anyone says.

Paulusmaximus · 22-07-2014 11:54am

Russman wrote: »

IF that's true (I haven't a clue one way or the other), but, if its true, there's something very wrong with that IMO. No way should a player who qualifies for PP be able to play at Bruen standard in the latter stages of the competition, I don't care what anyone says.

5 twelve handicappers with 5 six handicappers......possibly

Maybe they have an issue with their computer system when calculating CSS's....

eoghan104 · 22-07-2014 2:29pm

Hi,

My team (Bray) have qualified for the final of the Metropolitan Trophy.

I was wondering is there anywhere I can check previous year finals results? With two legs of 9 at home and 9 away I wanted to see what sort of results win. We are home in the first leg, I don't know if this is much of an advantage.

dvemail · 22-07-2014 3:41pm

I'm almost certain that the Spanish Point Pierce Purcill team had a massive recruitment drive last year.
Team consisted of lads who used to play Junior Cup for other clubs (handicap brought up over a few years) and a few of the players who won the Purcell All Ireland for Newcastle West the year previous joined also.

I'd say they'd give plenty of Barton Shield teams a run for their money.

ozymandias10 · 22-07-2014 3:59pm

dvemail wrote: »

I'm almost certain that the Spanish Point Pierce Purcill team had a massive recruitment drive last year.
Team consisted of lads who used to play Junior Cup for other clubs (handicap brought up over a few years) and a few of the players who won the Purcell All Ireland for Newcastle West the year previous joined also.

I'd say they'd give plenty of Barton Shield teams a run for their money.

surely that cant be right .. these lads are therefore going for 3 all Ireland titles in a row. Is that possible as I would have thought the GUI enforce a general cut on the winners each year so the handicaps are reduced and would deffo take people out of the equation then. Also if they won the all ireland some of them surely are winning stuff in the club as they are playing good golf and this would mean further cuts

dvemail · 22-07-2014 4:08pm

ozymandias10 wrote: »

surely that cant be right .. these lads are therefore going for 3 all Ireland titles in a row. Is that possible as I would have thought the GUI enforce a general cut on the winners each year so the handicaps are reduced and would deffo take people out of the equation then. Also if they won the all ireland some of them surely are winning stuff in the club as they are playing good golf and this would mean further cuts

Not sure if the GUI cut winners. Maybe a couple of shots at the most. so if they were off 14 they will be eligible for the next year.
Unfortunately the only thing most of these lads are winning are team comps. They won't go out and win your weekly open singles.

It's a shame, but that's the reality of the situation.

DiegoWorst · 22-07-2014 4:25pm

dvemail wrote: »

I'm almost certain that the Spanish Point Pierce Purcill team had a massive recruitment drive last year.
Team consisted of lads who used to play Junior Cup for other clubs (handicap brought up over a few years) and a few of the players who won the Purcell All Ireland for Newcastle West the year previous joined also.

I'd say they'd give plenty of Barton Shield teams a run for their money.

I'm not denying your claim is correct, but I can't believe clubs would go this far to win a pennant.
There are plenty of guys playing Pierce Purcell who once played Junior Cup - but these guys would be hitting their 60's now, and probably last played Junior Cup 15 ~ 20 years ago.

ozymandias10 · 23-07-2014 11:36am

i was playing in a team event yesterday..(played okay didn't feature in prizes) but I was playing with a guy from Ennis. Anyway Pierce Purcell came up and he mentioned Spanish points win. he said there are a number of guys from Woodstock playing with them now who have won Purcell with Woodstock. that would mean if previous posts are correct that this years Spanish point team consists in some parts of people who have played in the last three All Ireland winning Purcell teams ...Spanish Point, Newcastewest and Woodstock.

Poker Face · 23-07-2014 12:24pm

Paulusmaximus wrote: »

do you require 4 singles cards from the previous year to play in the Bruen and Pierce Purcell?

Yeah you need to have 4 qualifying comps played the previous year.

thebigbandit · 23-07-2014 1:22pm

like my previous posts i actually blame the gui for all u sandbaggers out there(me included) the handicaps secretarys in clubs have more power than they think, there is no way the lads ye are givin out about from spanish point should be allowed to come from junior cup standard to an eligeble handicap for pierce purcell....but the system lets u do that, just dont play in singles and keep your head down. but i see they were beaten in the jimmy bruen semi final by lisalan gc...so how good can they be??

ozymandias10 · 23-07-2014 1:35pm

thebigbandit wrote: »

like my previous posts i actually blame the gui for all u sandbaggers out there(me included) the handicaps secretarys in clubs have more power than they think, there is no way the lads ye are givin out about from spanish point should be allowed to come from junior cup standard to an eligeble handicap for pierce purcell....but the system lets u do that, just dont play in singles and keep your head down. but i see they were beaten in the jimmy bruen semi final by lisalan gc...so how good can they be??[/QUOTE]

they had won the Purcell the day before. that had to take something out of them the lisselan match was tight as well

I'm not sure I believe the junior cup thing though

cairny · 23-07-2014 1:44pm

thebigbandit wrote: »

like my previous posts i actually blame the gui....

I actually blame you

thebigbandit · 23-07-2014 1:50pm

ya that sounds a bit much, still had to out there and win it though, im sure they werent the only lads at that stage of the comp playing off bogey handicaps...but its always the winners who get the grief in these competitions.....

dvemail · 23-07-2014 2:07pm

thebigbandit wrote: »

ya that sounds a bit much, still had to out there and win it though, im sure they werent the only lads at that stage of the comp playing off bogey handicaps...but its always the winners who get the grief in these competitions.....

Every club has one or two I agree. But..

Last year Spanish Point won every match they played 4-1 bar one match they won 3.5-1.5.
So out of the 8 rounds to be played to win an All-Ireland, only 1 pairing managed to take a point off this team.
1 match lost from the 40 that was played between the 5 pairings.

That just isn't right.

thebigbandit · 23-07-2014 4:19pm

its not but thats what this comp has been like for as long as i can remember, and a lot of older guys who usuallly play in the pierce purcell arent able for 36 holes in one day, must suit the young spanish point team also, its a young mans game any more i think, has any team ever won it twice before i wonder??

irishgolfer · 23-07-2014 11:47pm

Cant wait for Paddy Power to open the book on Peirce Purcell for 2014. Judging by everything that is being said about Spanish Point here, looks like it could be easy money!

opinionated3 · 25-07-2014 6:26pm

I enjoyed my debut pierce purcell experience this year (albeit brief! ! ) but not so sure I would enter next year. The bandits are quite simply everywhere. What I'm hearing about Spanish point is very off putting too. Is there any hope of the gui looking into the whole thing and maybe making some changes? ?

Goldenjohn · 10-08-2014 7:03am

Some great golf played in strandhill yesterday, junior cup guys were especially playing super golf from what I saw. Course in great shape too. Next year can't come quick enough to get a crack at making a team

Ciaranra · 10-08-2014 8:39am

Cill Dara are 6-3 up after home leg against Enniscorthy hope its enough heading into second leg

Rikand · 10-08-2014 8:39am

South zone qualifiers for junior cup are on in Athlone next year, we're already gearing ourselves towards it

Sligored · 11-08-2014 1:25pm

connacht results
athenry beat galway in junior cup
strandhill beat tuam in jimmy bruen
enniscrone beat castlebar in pierce purcell.

Roll on carton house 3rd week in september, cant wait

http://www.gui.ie/connacht/news/aig-cups-shields-finals-update

J6P · 12-08-2014 7:47pm

Corrstown beat ardee in the barton cup semi final. Anyone know what the story is with Druids Heath v athy? No result up so I assume it was postponed due to weather...

matt-dublin · 12-08-2014 8:34pm

J6P wrote: »

Corrstown beat ardee in the barton cup semi final. Anyone know what the story is with Druids Heath v athy? No result up so I assume it was postponed due to weather...

Match was abandoned due to weather, gui have another week due to some messiness. Due to be played this sat at 2pm

Ciaranra · 24-08-2014 9:42am

Cill Dara won provincial towns cup

mafc · 24-08-2014 5:26pm

Ciaranra wrote: »

Cill Dara won provincial towns cup

11.5 - 6.5 to the Lilywhites..
Great result, celebrations were good last night

Ciaranra · 25-08-2014 10:29am

mafc wrote: »

11.5 - 6.5 to the Lilywhites..
Great result, celebrations were good last night

And the Dub

thebigbandit · 07-09-2014 11:18pm

pp have opened a book on gui comps.....spanish point 1/2 to win pierce purcell!!! never seen odds this short for one of these comps. any value out there i wonder?

FixdePitchmark · 07-09-2014 11:24pm

thebigbandit wrote: »

pp have opened a book on gui comps.....spanish point 1/2 to win pierce purcell!!! never seen odds this short for one of these comps. any value out there i wonder?

Sorry - new to things here.

How could somebody be that much of a favourite for what is a handicapped competition ?

SaveOurLyric · 07-09-2014 11:30pm

thebigbandit wrote: »

pp have opened a book on gui comps.....spanish point 1/2 to win pierce purcell!!! never seen odds this short for one of these comps. any value out there i wonder?

Amazing odds alright. Suggests there has never before been a better collection of bandits playing for one team team in the competition.
Surprising the GUI still endorses what are patently sham competitions.

Sir montygom · 07-09-2014 11:33pm

thebigbandit wrote: »

pp have opened a book on gui comps.....spanish point 1/2 to win pierce purcell!!! never seen odds this short for one of these comps. any value out there i wonder?

I'm thinking of lumping on them even at 1/2......I've seen them play and any of their pairs on their team wouldn't look out of place in glen eagles ! Bookies have been burnt before by these lads......

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