Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Well done to valley rovers great win,they were the classier outfit but like i said na piarssigh are brave dogged,and halpin,buckley gardiner wont ever give up like gould in a game,its not in their dna.Sean og retired today,what a legend thank you sean og for the wonderful memories on and off the field

They were down by 8 but never gave up,fiactra lynch,gave a great display,worth a recall for cork but not as a forward.

Well done to ballincollig,delighted for them,and they as john o dwyer once said suffered big town syndrome but not anymore champions,toda,real real champions ,they have turned a corner and showed be an example to.mallow,mtichelstown etc so often.flatter to decieve,but actually changed their attuide and culture and a great champion.

Im delighted for them,players,club and eammon murphy of the echo hes heart is in the right place im delighted for him.

Everything i said bout john hayes,the  unpredictable nature of he's game imo ,when hes on form he can be great and sublime but when not he can be quite poor may have seemed harsh before the game,but i believe critising before than waiting and being the hurler on the dtich afterwards .My fears unfortunately were confirmed regards he's football today.

Today was not a nice day for football,tough wind ,heavy ground,a lot of dirty ball,a day to test characther and temparment of players and want of players and like i said he would ,Galvin had hayes well and truly in hes pocket.
Galvin started slow ,a habit he has that must end but he had an outststanding game,real dog and bite and blew hayes away.
Hayes seven years a senior county player,ucc also,one point from play is not what i expect in a senior county final.
Imagine kerry down in killarney a step up again.Nice footballers simply wont do in Killarney,they must have more.
Cian kiely playing half back imo a better forward got from half back two points he outscored from play the marquree john hayes.
For me he did not show for the ball,did not lead like the great,i.mean really great forwards,hurley o.neill etc of cork would in big games.
If he is on the Cork panel next year its an poor l,truly poor call imo,with current management i will not be suprised if he starts.

Paddy kelly,a complete contrast ,christ heavenly jesus he was awesomely epically splendily magnificent in vision,defending,link play,creativity,wonderful centre forward play ,and if Cuthbert saw the game it will show how he made two woeful calls,treatment of paddy kelly,and the playing of hayes this year.
Im delighted for kelly.
People here too harsh on kelly v mayo blamed him,said he was finished,no way he was just drained of confidence for cork.
If the hip holds up ,at 29  has a lot to offer Cork.Natural intelligent footballer,what a player.

Sean kiely,superb tussle with fitzpatick both got injured in a clash but kiely injured then came back on.
At 21 this year and v kerry also last year,with ucc in the sigerson,today he always stands up when the need is greatest in the big games.
Has to start league games for cork.
Fitzpatrick deserves a look as dinnen probaly understandably wont play.Develop these new guys like ian maguire,rather than play gould etc who we know at thos stage what they can and cant do.

Cian kiely,superb game,all ireland colledges b title,cork senior club final this year superb today will start for cork u 21s,imo with white,brian o driscoll in the half back line,and crowley,play him as a ten.

O donughe was superb today,done as good as he could when he marked o rourke at times,worth a look for cork,but imo clancy,o driscoll crowley,loughrey are better etc for cork,but he deserves a look.

Dorgan had a fine game,at cork u 21 football next year is an option had shanhan in trouble for pace,and on a dry day as a poster said here previously,he could be exposed,on today not for cork imo.

Miskella was outstanding,delighted for him,pity hes not younger could play for cork.

Ballincolig have a great mix of youthful no fear exuberance in kielys,dorgan,etc,expierenced proven warriors in kelly,miskella,galvin,showed remarkable composure not to panic from six down,a doggness to win out,lovely football in awful conditions could really test crokes or stacks and will have a real chance in kerry .
Today was a great day for cork football but as much as the talent is there i cant be hopeful under the current manager imo.
Ballincollig won handy in the end,showed they can win war of attrition,if they get a dry day,will be much better.

John o rourke worked hard,created a lot,used hes pace in slow ground well,had imo a good game.
Durrant,ex kerry minor played well,but lets not get carried away Cork doesnt need him as a foward have at least five better players imo than him worth a panel place.
People just as he as kerry blood,will wait for it add two plus two and get one hundred.Not sure he would want to play for cork but we dont need him.
We dont need to become irish rubgy of old anyone with aussie blood or new zealand blood ,like kurt mcquilkin,brian smith,mike mullins,Michael bent andy ward,Matt Moystn,got caps just over their country being rubgy golds imo in the Southern Heimpshere rather than being the best availble when truth was they were good solid club men at best but average internationally,and we should have developed better home grown players imo.
Durant is imo not good enough for kerry senior intercounty,so should not be for cork then either imo.He is a fine fine club player though and would make most club teams.
Cork has enough homegrown talent for fowards though.
If durrant was better than corks options,yes play him bit imo he is not.Dont play him just cause hes from kerry.

Na piarsaigh were beaten in the limerick county final by kilmallock a huge suprise,the hunger was a worry for na piarsaigh imo.

Sarsfields of cork should be happy as they have a better chance v kilmallock,I wanted na piarsaigh as they would test sars better.
Conor sul should be suited more to ghrame mulchay than downes,and cussen may get more of paidie o.brien etc but i woudnt read much in to as compared to last year o brien form has this year been poor.
The sparrow having coached newtownshandrum last year will know cork hurling well.
Congrats to Ballincollig on their first and hopefully one of many Cork Senior Football Championship.Credit where due and they desrve huge huge credit tonight,a fine team,that will get better and better in the next few years great news going forward imo for Cork Football in an excellent county final,where the referring at times imo left a lot to be desired imo.

Friday night Cork City Football Club won a vital game for them and now stand one game away from greatness
Now was it luck,chance,mushrooms,faith,magic wands that brought them within touching distance of Greatness in League Of Ireland Soccer? NO it was simple,they made in a Decison back in November 2013 that was a bold brave ,choice to sack one Poor manager and replace him with a Mastermind of a manager.At the end of the day it can really and truly be that simple no need whatsover to overcomplicate things.

Back last November,Cork city board did not accept sixth place mid table in the league the last few years,the odd glory day any more,enough was enough ,they sacked Tommy Dunne.

They did not hide behind simplistic cobble this is Cork City Football Club, in thirty years we only ever won two League Of Ireland Titles,we have no right to expect more like Corks rubbish myth  with Cork Senior Gaelic Footballers only wins All Irelands every twenty years or so we have no right to change our culture,accepts our past as our culture, rather than change our future in Cork from it has no right to be expecting more Senior All Irelands than the odd one in some peoples eyes.

Cork City Football Club did not just appoint John Caulfield,as he was in their Hall Of Fame as a legend of an Ex Great,i mean,Truly Great Player,they appointed him as not he was  just one of their own and a high profile name but he had proven success with Avondale United and then also with UCC in the Collingwood Cup getting them to a fin,he was truly the perfect fit for Cork City Football Club.

Caulfield said he would raise standards from day one ,he said Cork City Football Club deserved more and bring the crowds back to the games.
He didnt settle for year one ah I can make a lots of mistskes by being naive or unlogical,nobody expected Cork City Football Club to have chance winning,so it wont matter I wont be criticised in year one but he,wanted to compete at the top end of the table.He does not just talk the talk in interviews,he walks the walk,and I actually really look forward to he's interviews unlike some where in a complete,contrast of emotion actually at times i am baffled reading them.

Whatever happens next week,in year one,John Caulfield has passed and exceeded the mininum expectation as Cork City Football Manager.I said this even a few weeks ago,I'm not just saying it now.

This talk of mine regards Cork City Football Club is,a huge relevance imo to Cork Gaelic Football as Billy Morgan,who was wanted in he's day by the Great,I mean Great Jock Sein of Glasgow Celtic,Dave Barry remember Bayern Munich,Dinny Allen who won a  Cup with Cork Hibs,and also JBM who has a huge interest in soccer,Tom Kenny Cork Footballer played soccer with Leeds in Cork and was so good Glasgow Celtic wanted to sign him but he declined and thankfully so,what a wonderful Cork Hurler he was,,all Cork Footballers  in their day,I'm sure had a huge interest in that game.And many more Current and former Cork Footballers have huge interest in Cork City and Soccer in General,Cork captain Michael Shields for example

Many Cork GAA fans are regulars you would see at Cork City Football Club games.
My point is the connection with Cork GAA and Cork City Football Club has always been strong,even in hurling ,Garan Manely son of 1992 All Ireland Fingal scorer Ger,is now with Cork u 17 Hurlers and also with  Cork City Foot Club etc,so it must really hit home when you see Cork city changing its culture of famines in success all because a proven manager was appointed that has a real vision for the future and if not  next week is destined to win the league title with Cork City, but then when they watch the Cork Senior Football Team this it must be complete contrast that to our  gaelic football  in we were miles off the standard imo when we did not neee to be with the panel we have.

The likes of Dave Barry,Dinnny Allen , who all have strong links with both codes in Cork,my heroes,  combined with the others that deservedly enjoy friday night,this build up week hopefully will learn that Cork Gaelic Football can be the same ,but only under proven,expiernced management, and when the job come avaible the next time should,demand a proven qualifed Cork Football Coach gets the job so the joy and eurphoium they enjoy with Cork City Football Club they can also enjoy in the future like us all with Cork Senior Gaelic Football imo.

Cork County Board in GAA want to fill a new staduim, then just make the new Pairc Real Fields Of Gold as winning teams will draw crowds,its not rocket science.Look at Turners Cross in it had a huge crowd in soccer for the game ,over 6 thousand .

I was given a ticket myself for it but gave it to to a friend,as I would have felt out of place if I turned up,as I was not at any other games due to GAA  etc and believed he who was at most of their games deserved it more than me, but my buddy said the atmosphere was electric when he rang me and said next year maybee Cork Gaelic Football would have the same,I had to be honest  to him ,as good friends must be honest to each other,so I paused,had a Sigh in my voice and then I said to him,Buddy I'm sorry to say but that is highely unlikely.

People actually belive in John Caulfield simply  he earned that belief from day one.What a manager.
I'll say it again in any walks of life,GAA,Rubgy,Basketball,Rowing, Camoige,Ladies Football,Horse Racing both as jockeys and in  training Horses, Road Bowling,Hockey,Hurling,Handball,Athletics,Boxing etc,Golf,Swimming,Show Jumping, Soccer both ,at National and Internatonal level ,Aussie Rules,you name it, Cork can more than compete  with the best and be the best or produce sports stars in those codes once they are supported and complimented by good structures and also finanical investment,and top,I mean Top Top coaching.

There it would seem are currently.Majior problems in the Waterford Senior Hurling  Camp,as their Strength and Conditoning Coach has now  jumped the Sinking Ship,combine that with Willam Maher and,Frank Flannery leaving,Shane Walsh at just thirty years of age retiring from playing and possibly more players doing so,Cork should beat them in handy in June in the Senior Hurling
Their Senior hurling set up is fast becoming a shambles  .Hand on heart I geuinely feel for them in their moment of troubles.

On another note its becoming beyond  a real concern at this stage no Cork Football,Coach is in place yet for 2015,when it has been known for weeks Ronan Maccarthy was leaving.I will not be suprised if Cuthbhert is in the paper,talking regards the County Final,but its irrelvant,I want talk on the Management set up for Cork Senior Football in 2015,as Nothing else is as important for Now for Cork Senior Football team imo.

Limerick minors hurlers/u17 etc were back training with
the new manager the weekend,yes already started up again,Cork minors doing trial games,U 21 footballers the same.
Clare Senior Hurlers are starting up again next week to name but a few.

Cork need to seriously get our act together.Cork County Senior Football Final , a professional set up would have their management in team in place to view both games today and potential new panel members for Cork 2015,but we did not have one finalised for today.

I would say JBM must do the same with hurling selectors but i excuse him more time as to be fair he was leaving,but thankfully done a u turn and saved Cork hurling of a 20 year set back by staying and preventing a night mare scenario,but we must have the management set up finailsed within the next two weeks at the latest imo.

On another note congrats to killeagh winning u 16 hurling league beating newtownshandrum,to do the double as they already won the county.
killeagh st.itas winning the u 21b county last night,loosing minor a finalists,are producing very good young talented hurlers all credit due at the end of the day.Kinery,landers,deane ,o brien,tracey,agrendaror.for etc ,good young hurlers.

Im cautious and sceptical to take other peoples views on game unless i respect and trust their assements,but a buddy of mine at the game,he judges players like myself in fact hes shrewder than me more knowagbele,said for killeagh cork player killan tracey,cathal deane i mentioned him wednesday in the harty cup should be watched by cork,jack o rourke all played well,and at full back for newtownshandrum Darragh Guiney was meant to be very good,david geary also.
Guiney full back play was meant to been brillant on a beaten team he not only won ball but rarely wasted it and geary were good ,both key,players for charville cbs also.


David agrendbor youghal in harty cup a sub was meant to be strong running,fast,pacey,direct running etc.
O rourke hurled lots of ball apparently.

Watched kilmallock v na piarsigh on recording,kilmallock are very beatable,far from great,my only fear was had city team hunger and they did not,intensity was off kilmallock had it,but have they that hunger after puttung so much in to that game the next day??


Mark loughlin good at full.back should contain cussen but they have limited forwards,cleary seen by paudie o brien playing there, wont score much,like sars they dont have a spread of scorers.


Conor sul should hold ghrame mulchay,ray ryan wont be exposed by o brien o brien will win some ball but wont score much,jake mulchay, willam kearney wont fear.
Eoin ryan ex minor,good forward but is no downes or dowling,leahy should be okay .

Kilmallock are poor at midfield,robbie hanley limerick minor was good as a sub,but kearney will be too much expierenced for him.

Cian.maccarthy should be able for philip o loughin,in a small tight kilmallock and if its wet will suit him.
This is sars best ever chance of getting to a munster,no excuse they fail,as kilmallock ambushed na piarsaigh who had no intenstiy but still pushed them to four points.
Ronan.lynch was brillant at half back for na piarsaigh ,imo hes best position with downes ,dowling breen,dempsey,adrian breen,king would have been an ideal test for sars.
As it stands its imo a good kilmallock team at best nothing great,like sars,i expect a poor game,sars should win this if there any good but they will meet far far better teams in munster if they win etc.

Sparrow has a fine record in limerick clubs as a manager but munster not great,pat ryan imo is a better coach,advantage to sars here.
It will be close,none of the two teams are great,sars should win but if they dont poor poor reflection again on cork hurling imo.

Thanks bread and butter yeah played killeagh u 21 recently,dan gunning meant to be scintalling.
Only fringe players at moment.The team that lined though still very impressive for fringe players.
Real depth in cork hurling,just give them.top.coaching.

Smith614 wrote: »

TTM.... A few interesting articles in the media, facebook , twitter etc for past few days regarding the treatment of a female freelance photographer at the Thurles CBS V Limerick collleges in the Harty cup. The manager of Thurles acted very badly and even got his subs to stand in front of and intimidate thephotographer. Very odd behavior by a team management. I wonder was there an illegal player or an overage player on the Thurles team considering the actions of manager. Must be something behind it.

I didnt hear at all
That was in claughan yeah?

Any article link please

If Crokes play Ballincollig there,will be a kerry man with cork club george durreant, but also a cork man with crokes,michael milner ex doheny dual player with them.




Puis did good but isnt intercounty.

Murphy was outstanding as was halloran cork.minor what a goal,what a player.

Ir
Tim o.mahony,looney,halloran,kingston landers,jesus some forwards next year for cork.
Draw is meant to be thurdsay week i heard not sure on it though


Ballyhea v lixnaw mallow next week,huge north cork at it,ballyhea should win it.

Smith614 wrote: »

Ballyhea V Lixnaw is clashing with Charleville V Fermoy, most North cork gaels will be in Pairc Ui Chaoimmh. Madness by Munster council to clash these two fixtures.

Id say lot neutrals go mallpw see pa callaghan and its munster game

A joke it clashing

Any link of the incident you mentioned thurles game please?

Delighted for collig, 108 years is some wait!!! good for cork gaa in an overall sense that one of our most populous towns gets this profile as they are in serious competition with rugby and soccer in particular. Colligs cork stars like glavin, Kelly, sean kiely and the great john miskella stood up wherear only john o rourke did for rangers..........not surprising for those of us who have watched some of these fellas play.
Sad to see the last of the GREAT sean og on sunday, and in fairness to piarsaigh they died with their boots on. Fair play to sean og for diving straight in with piarsaigh u21s and the cork u14s, what an asset the man will be.
Very worried by the current silence from our media friendly football manager -where is the confirmation of pat Flanagan? who is replacing ronan McCarthy? when is he going to talk to the panel? cork are allowed and due to return training in a couple of weeks and there is nothing but rumours none of which are positive.
Great news for sars with kilmallocks win, despite sars many weaknesses including their lack of physicality they should fancy themselves for this one and may finally do themselves some good in munster.
As for hurling I hear a few of the fringe panellists are going travelling including egan so expect some changes being brought in, surely at this stage Jamie nagle?

I would consider dropping bud Hartnett, don't see it in this guy for this level. Would use Darren McCarthy as an outfield player, consistently excellent with ballymartle, not sure on sub keeper? probably Lawton also. Not much else there assuming that the 3 dual players go hurling. under no circumstances would I accept dual again if I was JBM or Cuthbert, the effect it had in august (as Cusack so correctly pointed out it would) was absolutely massive, with both walsh and cahalane having terrible games in both codes at this critical time of the year.
If conor o Sullivan heads off I would recall the unfortunate killian murphy or perhaps Daniel kearneys brother

My hurling panel for the 2015 league and enter waterford crystal cup is

Goalkeepers.Nash,mccarthy  ,

Corner backs Conor o.sullivan
Mcdonnell ,Shane O Neill,Killan Burke,Stephen Murphy

Full backs,dennehy,spillane,and cahalane

Please sent someone to watch jack sheehan if he plays,fitz ul again.
Unlikely we need him now,but have a look at him.
Half backs
Colm barry,murphy,can play either wing,willam kearney but im not convinced or corner back
Id rather killan.murphy poorly treated last year while others got nine lives.

If cadogan is just hurling fine,bit hes not a full back

Centre back ,ellis,joyce

Jamie Nagle,mcloughlin both get games for number seven
Id drop egan,hes apparently travelling will miss the league anway.

Midfield
AidanWalsh, ,kearney,rob o shea,Michael Sullivan
Glen kennfick is fast,wristy hurler,wouldnt be starting any game but have him training with senior panel like michael cahalane next year and pa callaghan who declined last year,will again likely decline next year

Half forwards
John cronin,harnedy,cooper,lehane,coughlan,Shane O Keoffe,David Cunningham Glen Rovers

Full forward line
Horgan,cadogan,moylan ,padraig gould,paudie sullivan,Anthony spillane,pa cronin
Sean hayes ,have him on training panel one for the future should be intermediate panel next year
These young lads i have wont develop at u 21 under pat,so must be under good coaching in liam hayes or at senior.Pa callaghan would be,im not sure hell join
Would be an ideal full forward,or even half forward,won ball in the air ,like a kangaroo,elastic jump,like richie hogan,very roboust,strong as,an ox,but crucially tough on the inside,will mix it .
Pa callaghan if he doesnt play senior or u21,may  who knows imo play for intermedates under liam hayes.
No one can blame pa if he,was dulliusioned or grew out of love for cork hurling,had three years at minor,on awful coached teams,knock the,stuffing out of anyone.
Pa ,and hes family are wonderful hurling people,not just ballyhea club games,but i often saw hes people in the crowd at games like the newtown u duhallow game,two weeks ago,and cork v clare u 21 challenge last march even though pa wasnt playing in either.There real ,real hurling people,im delighted for them last sunday.
If cahalane was fine at full back,maybee,maybee,colm as a ball winning half forward.Hes superb in the air,aggression in hes hurling.

I dont expect some of the 19 year olds to start,but blood them in the panel,and  give sean hayes,kingston for example hope in they had the misfortune of having last year under a poor set up.Time for a new captain,only between three,harndey,walsh, nash
Id prefer an outfield player.

Close call and hes time will come,i would have given it to harnedy,but id give it to walsh,reward hes loyalty to hurling,and showed real leadership,honesty courage,balls of  conviction for speaking openly and calling a halt to dualism.

In a position on the field to really lead, he is the only player with a senior all ireland medal,players,would look up to him.
Horgan cant be captain,wouldnt sit well with him,enough pressure on him with being ace free taker and marquee forward as it is.

This years u 21 set was so predictible,tried to play aggressive hurling.Thats all management knew.
When limerick played kilkenny,cusack previewed it by saying limerick bounced off kilkenny,kilkenny would absorb the shock and take it.He used a phrase, would you karate chop bruce lee.?
You must pick off scores ,play with fluidity he said.
Thats applys to cork u 21 hurling team,We beat waterford,being physical bouncing of them,they had no intensity .We won more down to what waterford didnt do than what cork did.

We tried to do it to clare but it was an arrogrant insult to the toughest u 21 team in living history imo with no logic,we tried to bounce of them ,but they were like skippy the kangaroo,they bounced back and then were too fluid,systetmatic,had a cohesion that is alien to cork u 21 trained teams the last five years and blew us away as our team were like a statue,oblivous to the reality that lived in the moment besides them.Any team i ever saw Et the last five years I
With cork.u 21 plays as indivuals,not as a collective force.

Cusack has one great line,to lead to the summit,you first got to scale it yourself.
In my words it is only he who wears the shoe know exactly how fits.

We have guys that never reached the summit in cork hurling,as managers of our teams when you gave them sat nav,map,compass,still couldnt reach it with the greatest respect to them,and i judge them hurling soley and only hurling.No one can doubt their commitment,or passion,but thats not enough imo.

Players that have been tried and not impressesd imo,lawton,haughney very poor,cian maccarthy etc very unmobile will have cracker in kilmallock do but more bottle in fairness than haughney ,and lawton put together.
Cussen name will crop up but with the usal media suspects  thankfully jbm wont recall him again.When jbm didnt use him much in 2013,tells the story.
At the end of the day Cork hurling is not an airline,can ill afford to carry even one passenger in 2015.Harsh,of course it is lads,im human too,i geuinely get no joy in being so harsh,but this is now elite sport winning is everything for cork hurling,second is nothing for a county like us.

The template when people say we are too harsh,just have a moment,close your eyes and ask what would Brian Cody do?????or Eammon Fitzmaurice,or Eammon ryan or Jim Mcguinness,Jim Gavin or Davy fitz all ruthless managers.
Ruthless,execution on and off the field Cork Hurling Craves for.

zetecescort wrote: »

Would it be worth including Cormac Murphy in the senior squad as a replacement for Egan, was impressed with him in the couple of Cork intermediate games I saw this summer?

Definitely!!! one for 2015 for sure.

TTM, Stephen o Donoghue is one I have always felt was worth a look for cork, never got a break under counihan, like galvin.
Tbh its very difficult to get excited or enthused for 2015 knowing the disaster tha this year has been and the way a lot of the players feel.
We simply dotn have a management team capable of managing at this level - they don't understand what it takes, they don't have any experience and they don't seem to learn from mistakes.
Unfortunately they believed the hype of the league instead of the Dublin game being a huge wake up call, I have no doubt the moral victory vs mayo has long term done more damage then good giving a false sense of being correct to Cuthbert.............hard to even start thinking about players for 2015 at this stage

yeah id agree had murphy and o donugje in.my panels

What do you make colm tucker o.brien

Is flanganan.joining as coach??no one knows

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

If macarthy went outfield sean,theres one man,only one man young patrick collins just going on.19 but already two as u 21,and three yeats left,what a talent,temparment,superb hands,plays half forward for club,hes unbelievable sean breathtaking saves in walsh park u 21,four beauties,would lost otherwise,two splendid in.minor v limerick


Not too young for sub goalie,cusack was similar

Sean will.be one of the great i mean great,great really great goalies not just in cork.
Younger brother ger is just as good also.

ya fully aware of young Collins, unfortunately he will have the distinction of playing about 5/6 years at moinor and u21 for cork without ever getting out of munster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! getting to a munster u21 final only to be destroyed.............terrible situation for these young cork hurlers to have kenneally for 4 odd years.........but defintaly Collins is next in line after nash

I think brian kerins is the late rip johns son,great goalie great person


Obizgende could take this competition by storm in paul galvin role,unbelievable minors wouldnt start him despite staring at u 21 level club

Alano callaghan outstanding blackrock u 21 hurling satirday minor hurler cork thos year,some big game player good footballer

West,is fine player also.

Thanks Denis

If you hear please the venue and refixed date for the dean ryan cup semi final ,would you please post it

Thanks in advance




Dingles survivors of last year game aproxiatemely nine of them

Brian Ó BeaglaoichAn Ghaeltacht full back
Aodhán Ó ConchúirDaingean Uí Chuis sub defender
Seán Ó GairbhiaAn Ghaeltacht corner back
Marc Ó ConchúirDaingean Uí Chuis midfield


Seanachán Ó Muircheartaigh,
Tom Ó SúllleabháinDaingean Uí Chuis half forward line

Cathal Ó Bambaire andConchúir Ó Géibheannaigh  Daingean u both in the full forward line
Seán Ó Bambaire An Ghaeltacht sub

Coláiste Chríost Ri 8 survivors off last year game
Matthew O’Mahoney Nemo
sub keeper
Colm ScullySt. Finbarrs corner back
Corey BuckleySt. Finbarrs half back
Alan O’Callaghan and ian O’CallaghanSt. Finbarrs were midfield

Brian keirns barrs and Chidozie OgbeneNemo Rangers were in the full forward line with john GoodTracton half forward,sub cork minor hurlers v limerick this year

A few dingle lads won all ireland with kerry minors so they will be very hard to beat in what should be a close game .

Smith with respect ,dont talk nonense stuff that would make the grass grow in texas so to speak.


As a charville fan you should know too well how Great pa callaghan is and can be now most charville men acknowkedge that,of course like most clubs in local rivaräy theres a contempt to acknowäedge a smaller parish have a player of a quality,despite ye having some top top young players imo have no one at this time to even come close to Pa,nor have Newtown,dromina,mallow,even kilmallock maybee ghrame mul but he cant win high ball etc,simply as callaghan,dont insult the lad by saying he is just a good player,is a great i mean great young player,as a rare commodity in cork forwards bar cadogan,callaghan is,fast,elusive,lords the air very strong and powerful.

I can understand you dont want to take away from yere big day,fair enough but dont take away from the greatest young forward talent with Cahalane last year in cork that would have played senior and u 21 if he wanted it.

Remember as well,he was on poorly coached minor teams,didnt play u 21,not in colledge as far as im aware,one and only time so far people can view him in a munster game that he,actually first tine,EVER playing on a,well coached team that are not ACTUALLY beaten before they start.

Dont be fooled,lixnaw as kerry teams in the past proved in this grade will be tough,lixnaw have a tough breed of characther,and have,some fine hurlers ,will push ballyhea,so the fact its munster knockout game,neuteals will go to see that game than even hough there both very good teams,charville v fermoy,and both well coached,in the bigger scheme of things Callaghan after two weeks ago is the main attraction.

Good hurlers imo are brian lawton,michael cussen,cathal naughton,Kevin Canty,Fintan O Leary,bud hartnett ,cian maccarthy,Garvan Maccarthy,Niall Moran etc.
To define pa callaghan as good imo put him in that group,and he is much much better than each of them nine out together imo so young and if he decides to play for cork will be great ,truly great if he has a good coach only then, as he is the perfect combination.of guile,craft,hurling intelligence,power,,pace,great hands,Elacstic spring jump,mobility, elusive ,inner resolve,awesome hurling touch score anywhere within sixty yards,is not just good,he is a great,i mean great truly great young talent now.
On poorly coached minor teams he never got a chance to showcase hes talents,Cork hurling failed him,not he failed cork,but on beaten teams he always stood out.
A lot of dromina,meelin,mallow who have connections to some ballyhea lads,kilmalliock etc will go to watch callaghan,kanturk also,as also mallow closer than cork ,and charville v fermoy is a big game but out 35 etc players on show no one can light up a game can pa callaghan can.One point alone in the county final,few could even think bout it,let alone pull it off now.


Smith youre the same fella that said peter finn is just good coach,as trying to say hes not main reason yere much better now.
Claude gough may be popular man in yere town ex player,great servant yes,take pladuits, and im sorry to bust your bubble but lets get real, Peter Finn as hes record proved great,great club coach,in one year hes the Main reason yere young talents got better this year imo.Like any good coach rarely in the spotlight,working hard to get things right.

You tried telling me another local club had a game postponed,always more or less in trouble,complety untrue,takes two to tango.
The club you were on bout it ,is a great club,has been great cork hurling,i admire and like charville but some like you need to actually wake up ,realise other clubs surronding charville,dromina,newtown,ballyhea,meelin,even limericks effin,kilmallock,put ye to shame with on field successs,so get off the high horse and we are above the rest lark just yeu21t just cause yere in a final and breed contempt for others who had,success long before ye now ,and be slow like in callaghans case to acknowledge a special,talent just causes hes from a club down the road from charville.Many would across province go to watch pa play,as there real hurling people,have beeb deprived seeing pa for cork this year.


I will be the first to congratulate charville,dont mind who wins,like,fermoy,both have bright futures,but this club bias out of some i dislike.
In fairness,though i some charville
lads who will like to see ballyhea do well.
Im still waiting for the link on the schools game incident,i heard nothing bout it,while i dont do doubt something may have happened,i have a feeling until i see different with respect you follow the norm,you added two plus two and got a hundred.
Fiction or fact ??
Give me some fact please by link if your good enough to tell bout it in the ist place please,or dont waste my time with half hearted news please then.


As for castlematyr,been beaten by ballinshaig,could happen,but castle have no excuses that happens,talking up ballinshig imo will be done to say if they win,they deserve huge credit upsetting odds,if they loose,like hide behind excuse we never were expected to win.I wont swallow that anchor.


Simple fact it is ballinshaig junior team,not intermediate side,so not great,wont reperesent cork in munster or get promoted as already up,so hunger wont be as much as castle to win who badly need this county title as they need a county,justify all east cork titles,so with lawtons both Cork expierence,tuama variois cork teams they should be,winning it
No excuse if they dont.
You cant be sure,with them' but i think they will stumble to a win,if they loose imo its a,dissaster for them,they will imo never have a better chance to win a,county title.
They should be winning this in truth .

Sink or,swim time,like sarsfields in kilmallock in a few,weeks.Both have no excuse,as both are playing winnable games,and been around a,while now .

Ballinhassig can get promoted, premier intermediate is a different grade to intermediate a. Don't see why they can't go up if they win.

To compare him to be as great as ghrame mulchay is not silly.I call it a shrewd comparsion

Ghraeme is a superb hurler,huge fan of him,fast,electric,elusive goal getter,has real bite in hes hurling and pa is every bit as good imo at just 19 can be better simply ,over one main point,he can win ball in the,air consistently,Mulchay,cant,very few can be fast wristy,powerful in the air ubkess,your kilkenny of course,all in the one but Pa is one of those rare exceptions.

Mulchay hurled with ucc,and limerick u 21 won a munster been winnig and competing senior limericl county finals ,he got more exposure to Top level hurling big days.


Pa had no college hurling,no senior club hurling yet,declined senior and u 21 for cork,if he like mulchay played at those levels,he would become great .
Whether he plays for cork remains to be seen.If he does hes game will go up another level.


As for ballinshsig simple fact imo there already team premier intermediate,so junior final imo not the be and end all,this is their second team for them but castlematyr it is poor reflection they dont win it now ,fact take newcestown to a replay,again newcestown second team who also lost players to football,was poor reflection on them.

This is castlematyr ,meant to be the pride of east cork junior hurling, their ist team,three intercounty players this year on it,should be winning it lets call a spade a spade.
No one gave ballinshsig chance at start many fancied castlematyr,its plain and simple .
Castlematr imo have way more to loose in defeat than ballinshig who imo,ballinshsig are a great,i mean great now club and for even just getting to this final have already won with their second team

They have good players,darren dinneen played intermediate for cork i think,mick aherne if fit,fine player ,colin and chris reynolds and won south east junior league but by and large it is their second team.

Producer Ben wrote: »

Before the year started if you told me that Castlemartyr would be in the county final, I would have been delighted for them and would have hoped they'd win. But after seeing them today it left a very bad taste in my mouth. Castlemartyr players were timewasting from the throw in, taking ages to take frees and puckouts. Worse was the referee left them at it for the whole game. He only played 3.5 mins injury time at the end of the game when there should have been at least 6. Also a couple of Castlemartyr players went down "injured" as if they were shot. Throwing themselves to the ground when there wasn't a Cloughduv player near them. Again the referee left them at it.
I also thought that Cloughduv found frees very hard to come by while they came a lot easier for Castlemartyr. Referee was very poor overall.

If what you say is true,poor reflection on castlematyr,seems no real belief in their hurling,and have to win by timewasting against a limited cloughduv,only one,scoring forward in Colm Ryan second time around hardly a sign of a great team ,to be brutally honest.
They have nice hurlers to win junior games handy,can play nice brand of hurling,but then closing out games,must be hard to watch for their fans at times as they make life diffcult for themselves when their is no need to and not always do they answer the hard questions when asked.To convince me,they would,want to win by seven or 8 points,i doubt they will win by that much though.




I agree smith ,kilmallock are not great imo,paddy loughlin should start corner back,still in harty cup,still a minor yes but so too was na piarsaighs mike casey,ronan lynch who both still with ard scoil ris played and played very well for Ns Parsaigh in last years senior club all ireland semi final.
Loughin is a superb prospect for limerick senior hurling in the future.
Sars in a tight ptich ,with a lot of expierenced campaigners,should be,suited by kilmallock,it should be a slow paced tempo game,physicality suit them,ryan,quigley,cian mac etc.In fact i expect cian to have a great game,it suits him this game but we cant get carried away and expect him to do it for Cork in Summer Hurling.


Sars v eirns own in tonights seniors hurling league,sars,should win but may take,foot of gas tonight with kilmallock looming so eirns own have a chance.

In the other semi saturday i hope rockies get revenge on ballymartle for over poor side line calls by browne lost a game they should if won,and unlike that game start niall cashman outstanding in u 21 final.


Its better for cork ,rockies win league outright,as with u 16,minor,u 21 county titles got to push on now and win at senior.
Winning the league be a huge confidence boost after u 21 for a young team for next year,if they dont win the league id get browne out and do all i can to get fergal ryan in as manager,too much talent to just waste away on management if their not up to it.
They have the talent to beat ballymartle a well coached team by crowley,good coach,and indeed sars if
They combine their talent with these three qualites

1 they match their opponents workrate,intensity

2 Get the match ups right
3 play with a real belief,as a team not indivudals

All these three characstics in any team in any sport anywhere in the world can only be got from having a good manager.You dont have a hope of having those,qualites without having a good manager.

Smith614 wrote: »

TTM... I agree Pa has the talent but hope he can drive on to great things. He is still a lot better than some currently on Cork panel. A natural but wouldn't use the word great yet. ( Ben, Deane, Corcoran etc were great)

Fair point

Farce of draw stucture at minor

Cork be better loosing to limerick at home ,wont happen,but winning is no use as loosing they would get to an all ireland quater final ,as you got to just get to a munster final


As for the hurling ,minor is just as bad,you beat team ist round could meet them in semi final,should be kept apart to til the final.
What a complete joke

Mark my words limerick wont be uo for the ist round game seven last year,they are building,so they will get better benfit in having more games.

Cork must box clever ,yes no one wants to loose games but if the system fails you ,you have no choice but to pick and choose games no point peaking for april being out in july.
What a joke.

Colm o neill suffered a,shoulder injury in that ,hybrid of an aussie rules game training,could be out for a while at least ,if the injury is as bad as feared

A player,man i have huge time for,if it is a bad as feared i wish him the best in hes recovery.Awful news ,i feel for him.I hope its not that bad ,and turns out to be just a,scare.

Another promising young hurler suffered bad injiry recently but wasnt as bad as initially feared.

I doubt it, would only replace one of his brothers kilmallock have other options on the wings/corner.