It is announced that Ireland WILL hold referendum on EU fiscal compact treaty

OSI · 28-02-2012 4:18pm #1

I look forward to the €1 minimum wage, compulsory German and Irish Army in every war arguments that are sure to be the highlight of the No campaign.

http://www.thejournal.ie/government-confirms-referendum-on-eu-fiscal-compact-treaty-368394-Feb2012/

THE TAOISEACH HAS confirmed that there will be a referendum held to ratify the EU fiscal compact treaty.
Enda Kenny informed the Dáil this afternoon that the Attorney General had advised the cabinet this morning that “on balance” a referendum is required on the fiscal compact agreement that was finalised by EU leaders earlier this month.
“Ratification on this treaty will be another important step in the rebuilding of Ireland’s economy,” the Taoiseach said.
He said that “it is in Ireland’s national interest that this treaty be approved.”
Kenny said that he intends to sign the treaty at a meeting of EU leaders in Brussels this Friday but that the people will be required to give their authorisation in a referendum. There was no details on the nature of the question that will be asked.
The Taoiseach said that arrangements for the referendum will be finalised “in the coming weeks.”

patwicklow · 28-02-2012 4:18pm

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/taoiseach-announces-referendum-on-fiscal-compact-541541.html

The Taoiseach Enda Kenny and Tánaiste Eamon Gilmore have announced that the country is to have a referendum on the European Fiscal Compact Treaty.

CardBordWindow · 28-02-2012 4:18pm

Take that, establishment!

DB10 · 28-02-2012 4:19pm

Yeh well Yes to Lisbon, really did get us jobs didn't it.....

:rolleyes:

Vote no.

Mena · 28-02-2012 4:20pm

This will not end well...

RonMexico · 28-02-2012 4:20pm

Let the bull**** campaigns begin.

Rabidlamb · 28-02-2012 4:20pm

Just tell us where you want the X this time & save us the re-voting & 3 months of debate about abortions.

Nothingbetter2d · 28-02-2012 4:20pm

will we have to vote yes after two or three no vote results?

SEPT 23 1989 · 28-02-2012 4:21pm

Biggins · 28-02-2012 4:21pm

patwicklow wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/taoiseach-announces-referendum-on-fiscal-compact-541541.html

The Taoiseach Enda Kenny and Tánaiste Eamon Gilmore have announced that the country is to have a referendum on the European Fiscal Compact Treaty.

O' this should be fun! :pac:

That_Guy · 28-02-2012 4:21pm

In simple terms what is this referendum about and why should I vote yes or no?

irishleedsfan · 28-02-2012 4:22pm

Vote Yes or the country is FECKED

Vote No or the country is FECKED

Hmmmm

patwicklow · 28-02-2012 4:22pm

I will vote no twice like last time.

Mena · 28-02-2012 4:22pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

NO

Tree Fiddy says you don't even know what you're saying no to!

James. · 28-02-2012 4:22pm

No point voting no.

They will just keep running it over and over until they get the result that they want - just like the last time.

Great democracy

Nothingbetter2d · 28-02-2012 4:23pm

irishleedsfan wrote: »

Vote Yes or the country is FECKED

Vote No or the country is FECKED

Hmmmm

spoil vote?

how about adding a second question on the ballot paper

leave the eurozone?

smash · 28-02-2012 4:23pm

I'm surprised Eamon Gilmore wants this. Wasn't Labour all about "the people"?

Cee-Jay-Cee · 28-02-2012 4:23pm

Obviously the government have their heads so far up their own arses that they are now completely detached from reality and have no realisation that there will be a resounding NO vote in this.

I understand that ireland needs a Yes vote however i'm going to vote No, just to see what happens.

super_furry · 28-02-2012 4:23pm

If we do send back a no vote, what are the implications?

sock puppet · 28-02-2012 4:24pm

James. wrote: »

No point voting no.

They will just keep running it over and over until they get the result that they want - just like the last time.

Great democracy

Not necessarily. The treaty could go ahead without Ireland.

Chucky the tree · 28-02-2012 4:24pm

Amazing how people already know how they will be voting No despite not knowing the question.

skelliser · 28-02-2012 4:25pm

Vote yes for jobs!!!

irishleedsfan · 28-02-2012 4:25pm

CJC999 wrote: »

Obviously the government have their heads so far up their own arses that they are now completely detached from reality and have no realisation that there will be a resounding NO vote in this.

I understand that ireland needs a Yes vote however i'm going to vote No, just to see what happens.

A gambling man. I like your style

Odds of it passing?

I am pie · 28-02-2012 4:25pm

I fully expect the No brigade to win out, which would be a desparate shame but at very least (as the country reverts to an economic ice age) it'll be funny to see the look of confusion and panic spread across their deluded mugs once they realise the implications of 'going it alone'

Viva the revolution. I'll be elsewhere.

Fuhrer · 28-02-2012 4:26pm

There a postal vote option for a referendum?

Faolchu · 28-02-2012 4:26pm

i can see the polling cards now

the'll either only have 2 Yes options, only have one yes option or its a precompleted form with yes selected for you by default

Augmerson · 28-02-2012 4:27pm

OSI wrote: »

I look forward to the €1 minimum wage, compulsory German and Irish Army in every war arguments that are sure to be the highlight of the No campaign.

http://www.thejournal.ie/government-confirms-referendum-on-eu-fiscal-compact-treaty-368394-Feb2012/

From the people who brought you Vote Yes for Jobs and Nice Treaty Mk II comes the Fiscal Compact Treaty! Vote No til you vote Yes!

dr.bollocko · 28-02-2012 4:27pm

So it's just me who's going to be laughing all the way to the ballot box with my no vote.

If I tick the X for no and also add in a few long paragraphs of abuse does my vote still count as a no?

Doc Ruby · 28-02-2012 4:28pm

How can he sign the treaty without first getting the referendum done. Seems to be forgetting who his employers are.

*sharpens up vote*

Biggins · 28-02-2012 4:28pm

Kenny said that he intends to sign the treaty at a meeting of EU leaders in Brussels this Friday but that the people will be required to give their authorisation in a referendum. There was no details on the nature of the question that will be asked.
The Taoiseach said that arrangements for the referendum will be finalised “in the coming weeks.”

Is he not 'jumping the gun' slightly in signing this Friday?
Is this not tantamount to an illegal action seeing as the referendum has not taken place yet, thus giving him the authorisation to do so (or told not to!) ?

patwicklow · 28-02-2012 4:28pm

Faolchu wrote: »

i can see the polling cards now

the'll either only have 2 Yes options, only have one yes option or its a precompleted form with yes selected for you by default

We will use more ink.....

Dyr · 28-02-2012 4:29pm

I wonder what the dire consequences will be threatened if we dare to vote no?

Anyway is it best of three or next goal wins for this referendum?

Doc Ruby · 28-02-2012 4:29pm

I am pie wrote: »

(as the country reverts to an economic ice age land)

It will indeed be terrible.

Nothingbetter2d · 28-02-2012 4:29pm

patwicklow wrote: »

We will use more ink.....

dont worry sinn fein have plenty of ink

Chucky the tree · 28-02-2012 4:30pm

Bambi wrote: »

I wonder what the dire consequences will be threatened if we dare to vote no?

Not as ridiculous as the dire consequences we'll be threatened with if we vote yes.

dvpower · 28-02-2012 4:32pm

Biggins wrote: »

Is he not 'jumping the gun' slightly in signing this Friday?
Is this not tantamount to an illegal action seeing as the referendum has not taken place yet, thus giving him the authorisation to do so (or told not to!) ?

Signing it is not the same as ratifying it.

average_runner · 28-02-2012 4:33pm

if Sinn Fein says vote NO, i vote YES:D

Dyr · 28-02-2012 4:33pm

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Not as ridiculous as the dire consequences we'll be threatened with if we vote yes.

We're already dealing with the dire consequences of our various yes votes. I say we try the other dire consequences now.

pragmatic1 · 28-02-2012 4:33pm

Let the scare tactics begin.

Nothingbetter2d · 28-02-2012 4:34pm

average_runner wrote: »

if Sinn Fein says vote NO, i vote YES:D

if i say dont jump off a cliff would ya jump?

I am pie · 28-02-2012 4:34pm

Doc Ruby wrote: »

It will indeed be terrible.

If you can't work out why Ireland and Iceland are different, then you go right ahead and join the rabble.

Good luck with that. Like I said, I'll be elsewhere.

happyman81 · 28-02-2012 4:34pm

James. wrote: »

No point voting no.

They will just keep running it over and over until they get the result that they want - just like the last time.

Great democracy

Just like the divorce referenda.

Biggins · 28-02-2012 4:34pm

dvpower wrote: »

Signing it is not the same as ratifying it.

Aaa... ok!

So what exactly IS he signing?
Is he signing for permission to sign later?

omerin · 28-02-2012 4:35pm

I fear for the Dail's stationary cupboard, will someone please think of the poor cartridges

SEPT 23 1989 · 28-02-2012 4:35pm

I dont think the Irish people are in the mood for threats

dvpower · 28-02-2012 4:35pm

This could actually be a very brave move by Enda Kenny. I expect some sweeteners in the run up to the referendum in the form of better terms on the promissory notes.

Tora Bora · 28-02-2012 4:36pm

The Shinners, are gonna need a sh1t load of ink:D:D

Biggins · 28-02-2012 4:36pm

dvpower wrote: »

This could actually be a very brave move by Enda Kenny. I expect some sweeteners in the run up to the referendum in the form of better terms on the promissory notes.

Indeed - we might 'suddenly' get a drop in interest rate payback!

smash · 28-02-2012 4:37pm

Biggins wrote: »

Is he not 'jumping the gun' slightly in signing this Friday?
Is this not tantamount to an illegal action seeing as the referendum has not taken place yet, thus giving him the authorisation to do so (or told not to!) ?

Well, I know you all voted no.... but I actually signed it a few weeks ago anyway. Sorry about that lads.

dvpower wrote: »

This could actually be a very brave move by Enda Kenny.

I see it as pretty cowardly though. Like most of what he's done.

mikemac1 · 28-02-2012 4:37pm

I don't want to vote twice so I'll just do as I'm told the first time

Dyr · 28-02-2012 4:37pm

Biggins wrote: »

Is he not 'jumping the gun' slightly in signing this Friday?
Is this not tantamount to an illegal action seeing as the referendum has not taken place yet, thus giving him the authorisation to do so (or told not to!) ?

I would have presumed constitutional protocol would preclude the plank from jumping the gun like that. Although it wouldn't suprise me if he chanced his arm anyway, ze germans can be very persuasive. The interesting thing is that if he did sign us up and then the amendment was defeated by referendum I would expect Kenny to have to resign as taoiseach.

It is announced that Ireland WILL hold referendum on EU fiscal compact treaty

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