Harrys Future

Rastapitts · 10-02-2012 2:28pm

Spurs were loyal to Harry during this trial now Harry needs to be loyal back

Hatch99 · 10-02-2012 2:52pm

Would I be right in saying that this is Mr Levys biggest challenege to date at Spurs ? Some say he got lucky with Redknapp, some say Redknapp got lucky with Spurs, but either way, when Harry leaves us for England, it's a huge challenge facing Levy in appointing the right man to continue carrying us forward and where we all want us to be !

theduffer · 10-02-2012 3:32pm

Rastapitts wrote: »

Spurs were loyal to Harry during this trial now Harry needs to be loyal back

I'm no Harry basher but the words "loyal" and Harry don't fit well together. Id say he will go as soon as the season finishes for the euro's! Our priority is to ensure that whoever gets the job afterwards gets the backing to continue to invest in the squad and also convince Bale & Modric to stay for another year at least.

To be fair to Harry is has done a great job of harnessing the potential of the squad over the 3 years. If he goes then all the best to him, he can return in 2 years time when the english press drives him from the english job

golfball37 · 10-02-2012 3:54pm

if Harry stays til at least the end of the season then he's repayed us imo.

Nobody has mentioned scenario 3.

Harry turns down England, Modric leaves, we sign Ade permantly along with 2 good signings but are in bottom half a mile off pace come october after a disastrous start.

Would Levy show recipricol loyalty in the same circumstances? I'm not so sure.

KingdomYid · 10-02-2012 4:11pm

I fear the damage has already been done, from his interview on SSN it seems to me his head is on getting the England job. Its made me feel a bit deflated today and it feels like the end of something that was really going places. I hope I am wrong though.

theduffer · 10-02-2012 4:20pm

golfball37 wrote: »

Nobody has mentioned scenario 3.

Harry turns down England, Modric leaves, we sign Ade permantly along with 2 good signings but are in bottom half a mile off pace come october after a disastrous start.

Dont want to drag off topic but i cant see this scenario really. If Harry turns down England and Modric leaves, we still have a very good squad, with the likes of Hudd not even getting a game. No way we would be bottom half, the squad shouldn't be as distracted by CL football and hopefully we wont get a group as tough as last time

Hatch99 · 10-02-2012 4:20pm

KingdomYid wrote: »

I fear the damage has already been done, from his interview on SSN it seems to me his head is on getting the England job. Its made me feel a bit deflated today and it feels like the end of something that was really going places. I hope I am wrong though.

Ah he's on his bike alright. It's just going to be a case of how it's managed between Levy and the FA now. Just hope it doesn't have a detrimental effect on the remainder of our season now.

ziedth · 10-02-2012 4:48pm

I agree,

I would have no problem with the 'Arry if he stays till the end of the season but to jump ship while we are still in a title race with 14 games to go after the fans/club stood by him over the Tax case frankly will be a kick in the balls.

It's a worrying time TBH I just hope it doesn't effect the results for the rest of the season.

Ormus · 10-02-2012 5:08pm

ziedth wrote: »

I agree,

I would have no problem with the 'Arry if he stays till the end of the season but to jump ship while we are still in a title race with 14 games to go after the fans/club stood by him over the Tax case frankly will be a kick in the balls.

It's a worrying time TBH I just hope it doesn't effect the results for the rest of the season.

Stuart Pearce has been appointed for the Holland friendly.

England don't have any other matches before the end of season.

'Arry may be asked to play some kind of advisory role in England's preparations but he won't leave Spurs til May.

EdenHazard · 10-02-2012 5:32pm

mushykeogh wrote: »

Not much of a success in the coaching world so far, will be interesting to see how he gets on with the USA.

The man is a clown so far, he seems to have no idea of the squad and the football is tedious so far.

ziedth · 10-02-2012 5:51pm

Ormus wrote: »

Stuart Pearce has been appointed for the Holland friendly.

England don't have any other matches before the end of season.

'Arry may be asked to play some kind of advisory role in England's preparations but he won't leave Spurs til May.

Doesn't mean he won't leave to prep for the finals. If the quotes flying around are to be believed then I honestly think he'll be gone after the Newcastle game.

10-02-2012 6:20pm

I've been supporting Spurs for over twenty years now and it's always the same. The minute we get good or find a star player someone comes along and cherry picks the player/management. We're going to go back to being mid table crap again probably.

jiltloop · 10-02-2012 6:28pm

I don't think Harry will want to leave before the end of the season but we will seriously need to have a good replacement lined up and ready to step straight in. The likes of Modric and Bale if they are considering their futures, will be more likely to stay if a new (and good) manager is drafted in as soon as the season ends so they can start looking at what summer signings are to be brought in.
Hopefully things move swiftly and Levy is willing to stump up the cash to get a worldclass striker in early in the transfer window. Worst case scenario is weeks dragging on before getting a new manager in and no noteworthy signings by the time the new season has started.

tomo75 · 10-02-2012 9:45pm

I think Levy is too shrewd to be left on the lurch. He will try and screw the FA for as much money as he can before he starts talking about a replacement.
Harry has done a great job for us but Levy would have had no problem giving him the bullet if we were 2 points from 8 games and going nowhere.
I believe that Levy will have a manager lined up for 1st June. When you have a squad which is gonna be playing CL football

and has one of the best squads in the PL - a top name is alot easier to attract.

DamienKilmurray · 10-02-2012 10:21pm

Hatch99 wrote: »

Would I be right in saying that this is Mr Levys biggest challenege to date at Spurs ? Some say he got lucky with Redknapp, some say Redknapp got lucky with Spurs, but either way, when Harry leaves us for England, it's a huge challenge facing Levy in appointing the right man to continue carrying us forward and where we all want us to be !

Your spot on, i think this is Levy`s biggest challenge to date at Spurs. Things are at the highest level for Spurs at the moment under his chairmanship and his next appointment as manager has to keep these levels up there. It is going to be hard to attract the Mourinho`s of this world because of the finances involved, and the wage structure at the club which handicaps us in terms of transfer dealings. But if we can secure champions league it may make these difficulties a little easier to attract a top manager and the top players. In Levy I trust.

tippspur · 11-02-2012 12:49am

I still think Harry would be mad to take on the England job and if he does it won't be long before he regrets it.Just look at the s**t been thrown at Stewart Peirce this evening,the papers dragging up some old film of him shouting racist remarks at Paul Ince in a game many years ago,the media are all for Redknapp to get the job but as soon as the results go crappy they'll crucify him.

11-02-2012 11:52am

lol Stewart Pierce!

It's Stuart Pearce silly!

Valcin · 11-02-2012 8:46pm

If harry goes now before the end of our best season in years I'll be disgusted with him because it could derail the while thing. We need to have qualified for the champions league before he goes anywhere.

I don't think it's the end of the world though if he leaves in the summer. The team is still intact and I could be wrong but would levy not be a bigger reason why we have such great players here at the moment. I don't know how many of them were harry.s doing. I remember he was offered vdv, he didn't have much involvement. While saying that harry had been great for spurs.

KingdomYid · 12-02-2012 2:58pm

Valcin wrote: »

If harry goes now before the end of our best season in years I'll be disgusted with him because it could derail the while thing. We need to have qualified for the champions league before he goes anywhere.

I don't think it's the end of the world though if he leaves in the summer. The team is still intact and I could be wrong but would levy not be a bigger reason why we have such great players here at the moment. I don't know how many of them were harry.s doing. I remember he was offered vdv, he didn't have much involvement. While saying that harry had been great for spurs.

His signings or not, we are playing the way we are because of Harry. His loss to the team would be massive, make no mistake.

ziedth · 12-02-2012 3:18pm

I agree,

I haven't been his biggest fan over the years but he has really achieved something in his time here. I really hope he stays out the season because short of going on to win the league we are all going to wonder "what if".

Sure, I still think if Liverpool weren't up shít creek when they sacked Roy Hodson he would have been in like Flynn and been gone but that's only my opinion so I will give him the benefit that you'd assume that it is his dream to manage England and I won't begrude him leaving.

We have a nice "week off" now because of a handy enough FA Cup game so we should know exactly how things lie before our big one against Arsenal.

Only as a Spurs fan would you be experiencing both lifetime high and low at the sane time.

Hatch99 · 12-02-2012 8:56pm

I see the rags are saying HR will bring Jordan,Bond, Allen and Parkes with him to Eng position :eek:

ziedth · 12-02-2012 10:34pm

^ not a major issue to me, I'd say most top managers would have their own backroom team ya know?

12-02-2012 10:52pm

Hatch99 wrote: »

I see the rags are saying HR will bring Jordan,Bond, Allen and Parkes with him to Eng position :eek:

Allen? Clive Allen? Not a chance will he leave Spurs. The others are 'Arry's men though.

golfball37 · 13-02-2012 11:20am

Watching the Sunday Supplement yesterday and it was suggested by 2 of the reporters that Arry may just take over for the Euros as he'd be mad to leave Tottenham.

It wouldn't impact on us at all if this were true and wouldn't be surprised if it were possible. They also said the compo bill would run close to 30m if the FA took all of Spurs backroom staff.

2nd Row Donkey · 13-02-2012 11:45am

golfball37 wrote: »

Watching the Sunday Supplement yesterday and it was suggested by 2 of the reporters that Arry may just take over for the Euros as he'd be mad to leave Tottenham.

It wouldn't impact on us at all if this were true and wouldn't be surprised if it were possible. They also said the compo bill would run close to 30m if the FA took all of Spurs backroom staff.

Yeah, thats a kind of win-win situation for everyone.
Harry gets to achieve his dream of managing england and we get our manager back for next seasons title challenge.

Okay, it leave the FA a bit screwed but do they really want to take another risk of spending 15-20 million on a contract for a new manager that might completely fall on its face.

Its no like giving Harry a short term deal is going to impact how they perform at the euro's - no matter who comes in it going to be very difficult to achieve anything major in such a short space of time.

tippspur · 13-02-2012 11:30pm

golfball37 wrote: »

Watching the Sunday Supplement yesterday and it was suggested by 2 of the reporters that Arry may just take over for the Euros as he'd be mad to leave Tottenham.

It wouldn't impact on us at all if this were true and wouldn't be surprised if it were possible. They also said the compo bill would run close to 30m if the FA took all of Spurs backroom staff.

Yeah,I could actually see this happening,Harry doing the Euros with England and then coming back to Spurs.

2nd Row Donkey · 16-02-2012 3:23pm

Looks like that the angle Harry is looking for...

HARRY REDKNAPP has opened the door to becoming England manager by claiming the job could be done part-time for Euro 2012.

Tottenham boss Redknapp has previously insisted it would be impossible to manage his country and remain in charge of a Premier League club.
But the 64-year-old now admits as a one-off project, leading the Three Lions at Euro 2012 could be a goer.
He said: "I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't the popular choice. I know I am, it's been everywhere, in every paper every day.
"But it's not an easy one. I have a good job and I work with good people and I have a good team.
"The fans have been fantastic to me. Just to walk away now, when we're in such a good position, it wouldn't be fair, it wouldn't be fair on Tottenham.
"I have to really keep focusing on Tottenham.
"Part-time? In the short term I think it's possible for the European Championships.
"But I think in the long-term it's not possible to manage a club team and manage a national team.
"It's difficult enough to manage in the Premier League without having to worry about managing the England team as well.
"You want to be watching England players play, you want to be watching the opposition.
"I think, whoever they give the job to could only do the one job.
"Maybe for the Euros, it's not such a problem but once the Euros are finished and the new season starts in England, the manager has to be a Premier League manager — if it's someone who manages in the Premier League — or the England manager.
"To do the two jobs, it would be impossible."

irishmover · 17-02-2012 1:52am

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Looks like that the angle Harry is looking for...

HARRY REDKNAPP has opened the door to becoming England manager by claiming the job could be done part-time for Euro 2012.

Tottenham boss Redknapp has previously insisted it would be impossible to manage his country and remain in charge of a Premier League club.
But the 64-year-old now admits as a one-off project, leading the Three Lions at Euro 2012 could be a goer.
He said: "I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't the popular choice. I know I am, it's been everywhere, in every paper every day.
"But it's not an easy one. I have a good job and I work with good people and I have a good team.
"The fans have been fantastic to me. Just to walk away now, when we're in such a good position, it wouldn't be fair, it wouldn't be fair on Tottenham.
"I have to really keep focusing on Tottenham.
"Part-time? In the short term I think it's possible for the European Championships.
"But I think in the long-term it's not possible to manage a club team and manage a national team.
"It's difficult enough to manage in the Premier League without having to worry about managing the England team as well.
"You want to be watching England players play, you want to be watching the opposition.
"I think, whoever they give the job to could only do the one job.
"Maybe for the Euros, it's not such a problem but once the Euros are finished and the new season starts in England, the manager has to be a Premier League manager — if it's someone who manages in the Premier League — or the England manager.
"To do the two jobs, it would be impossible."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/7525638/Part-time-Harry-unworkable-

Keith Mills says even part-time role isn't workable. This will drag on.

mickman · 19-02-2012 8:02pm

irishmover wrote: »

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Looks like that the angle Harry is looking for...

HARRY REDKNAPP has opened the door to becoming England manager by claiming the job could be done part-time for Euro 2012.

Tottenham boss Redknapp has previously insisted it would be impossible to manage his country and remain in charge of a Premier League club.
But the 64-year-old now admits as a one-off project, leading the Three Lions at Euro 2012 could be a goer.
He said: "I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't the popular choice. I know I am, it's been everywhere, in every paper every day.
"But it's not an easy one. I have a good job and I work with good people and I have a good team.
"The fans have been fantastic to me. Just to walk away now, when we're in such a good position, it wouldn't be fair, it wouldn't be fair on Tottenham.
"I have to really keep focusing on Tottenham.
"Part-time? In the short term I think it's possible for the European Championships.
"But I think in the long-term it's not possible to manage a club team and manage a national team.
"It's difficult enough to manage in the Premier League without having to worry about managing the England team as well.
"You want to be watching England players play, you want to be watching the opposition.
"I think, whoever they give the job to could only do the one job.
"Maybe for the Euros, it's not such a problem but once the Euros are finished and the new season starts in England, the manager has to be a Premier League manager — if it's someone who manages in the Premier League — or the England manager.
"To do the two jobs, it would be impossible."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/7525638/Part-time-Harry-unworkable-

Keith Mills says even part-time role isn't workable. This will drag on.

Smith on Sunday supplement this morning said Harry to England is a done deal , an absolute certainty

He has also heard that levy will look for 15 million compo

Hatch99 · 19-02-2012 8:25pm

Yet another rag says Jamie wants his Dad to stay at spurs and is negotiating a new contract with levy.

2nd Row Donkey · 19-02-2012 10:57pm

If we get 15M compo and its directly re-invested into the salary of the new boss then we might have a chance if getting one of the top managers.

bogtreader · 19-02-2012 11:07pm

My candidate for the potential job Guus hiddink has a gone to Russian side
Anzhi Makhachkala

Leinstersqspur · 24-02-2012 12:31am

Sitting with Stuart Pearce :eek:

ruiseal · 24-02-2012 9:01am

Leinstersqspur wrote: »

Sitting with Stuart Pearce :eek:

http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/spurs-want-united-defensive-target

Hopefully this was why!

2nd Row Donkey · 27-02-2012 9:54pm

Was gonna stick this in the Arsenal thread but it probably belongs in here.

We all wondered how the team would respond to the England job talk.
1st game afterwards and we hammered Newcastle in easily our best performance of the season. But to be fair i think the performance was probably a response to Harry's trial result as much as anything.

Since then we played Stevenage and we were muck, we wrote that one off to the romance of the FA cup. Yesterday we were destroyed by Arsenal plain and simple. Its very worrying and with Man U up next another defeat is looming... hopefully the performace will be much better.

Hatch99 · 27-02-2012 10:34pm

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Was gonna stick this in the Arsenal thread but it probably belongs in here.

We all wondered how the team would respond to the England job talk.
1st game afterwards and we hammered Newcastle in easily our best performance of the season. But to be fair i think the performance was probably a response to Harry's trial result as much as anything.

Since then we played Stevenage and we were muck, we wrote that one off to the romance of the FA cup. Yesterday we were destroyed by Arsenal plain and simple. Its very worrying and with Man U up next another defeat is looming... hopefully the performace will be much better.

I think he was shown up tactically yesterday and he got team selection wrong. In saying that, I wont lose the plot over one result. We need to avoid defeat next sunday.

2nd Row Donkey · 28-02-2012 11:31am

Yeah, at this stage I would take two draws in the next two games as it will be good for morale not to be beaten but 2 points from 9 is woeful.

irishmover · 28-02-2012 11:37am

Harry to be frank, has more cons than pros. However all cons are outweighed by the one pro which is the players want to play for him.

If he goes, then who would follow him? Would we get a manager who can handle the players and remove HR's cons? Difficult to say.

But yeh I wouldn't put the Newcastle game down as any significance. They were without their starting CM's and played attacking style away from home. It wasn't gonna end well. We just took advantage. I expected us to win 3-0 that day once I seen the lineups. Just look at our results in 2012. Hardly anything to write home about. A repeat of February - May of 2011 in 2012 has been a worry for me since Christmas time. It is very much possible we'll go the same path.

Man Utd then chelsea soon after. Fail to get 2+ points from those two and we're right into a battle for 3rd and 4th. Within 2 weeks we could see a 5 way battle for 3rd/4th.

Man utd is never a good game for us, home or away. Chelsea has been a better game but who knows with them. They could do what arsenal done to us.

Other spurs forums are a cringe. Full of too many fickle fans. Things like 'king is past it' and Modric isn't worth 10m are unreal.

I'll reserve my judgment of Harry until our final league position is confirmed. If we fail to finish in the top 4, regardless of FA cup success/failure then I would say its time for him to move on. For now we're 7 points clear of 4th with plenty of football to play. Wouldn't have thought that at the start of the season. Considering the signings we made and the start we had.

2nd Row Donkey · 28-02-2012 12:20pm

Your point about our team form been the same as this time last year is well made. I'd also be worried by Bale's form matching that of 12 months ago too. Maybe he needs a rest.

The rest of the players will pick themselves up fine. So BAE had a stinker, so what, its better that he made 3 mistakes in one game rather then 3 in 3 seperate games and cost us more points.

I'm sure the players feel they let the fans down on Sunday and the next game cant come quick enough so they can lay the ghost of the emirates to rest and move on.

irishmover · 28-02-2012 12:27pm

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Your point about our team form been the same as this time last year is well made. I'd also be worried by Bale's form matching that of 12 months ago too. Maybe he needs a rest.

The rest of the players will pick themselves up fine. So BAE had a stinker, so what, its better that he made 3 mistakes in one game rather then 3 in 3 seperate games and cost us more points.

I'm sure the players feel they let the fans down on Sunday and the next game cant come quick enough so they can lay the ghost of the emirates to rest and move on.

You would have to wonder about BAE's fitnes for the match though. If he wasn't fit and played I'd be more annoyed about his performance than if he was fit.

Lennon last season with a bust up with HR rings a bell. But if you don't feel fit it's better to not play.

KingdomYid · 28-02-2012 2:25pm

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Yeah, at this stage I would take two draws in the next two games as it will be good for morale not to be beaten but 2 points from 9 is woeful.

Not as woeful as you make it sound considering we would have played Arsenal and Everton away (both very tricky fixtures) aswell as the Champions at home.

keane=cock · 04-03-2012 7:19pm

is harry future affecting the team now? last few performances and results especially have been disappointing. is this the reason??

2nd Row Donkey · 04-03-2012 9:03pm

keane=cock wrote: »

is harry future affecting the team now? last few performances and results especially have been disappointing. is this the reason??

There is no doubt about it my mind...
Even if he wants the job he needs to come out and make a big statement to say he's going to stay on nrxt season.
The FA can come looking in May and by then the season is over.
The FA have really screwed us over by delaying their decision. Now the spurs players dont know whats going to happen nrxt and Levy cant do a damn thing about a replacement.

PogMoThoin · 04-03-2012 9:20pm

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

There is no doubt about it my mind...
Even if he wants the job he needs to come out and make a big statement to say he's going to stay on nrxt season.
The FA can come looking in May and by then the season is over.
The FA have really screwed us over by delaying their decision. Now the spurs players dont know whats going to happen nrxt and Levy cant do a damn thing about a replacement.

Yep, it's like that whole Modric thing all over again

04-03-2012 9:42pm

Can't really tell at the moment. The result and performance of the Stevenage game will speak volumes.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 05-03-2012 10:50pm

keane=cock wrote: »

is harry future affecting the team now? last few performances and results especially have been disappointing. is this the reason??

No, the performances have poor for quite some time now, this Harry for England thing is nothing more than an excuse imo. Ever since the Wolves game, even since the WB at the start of January we've been playing poorly. This was disguised by us playing some poor teams and grinding out the results, but now we've come up against quality opposition and our poor form is starting to show. This team reminds me a lot of the Villa team of a few season ago, looking a certianty for fourth but eventually dropping out due to fatigue. We've played a very similar XI since last August and it's finally starting to show. Call me pessimistic, but I'm nervous even for top 4 now, never mind top 3, we're so lucky Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool have been worse than us this season. We're also lucky we have no games against top 6 teams other than Chelsea away, it could be our saving grace.

Also, I think vdV needs to make a return to the team, he adds that extra bit of magic, and despite Saha's goals, he has contributed little and is like a black hole, ball goes in but never comes out. I'd rather see Defoe than him in the team, other than last season when he was coming back from injury he has proved he can score goals on a regular basis.

keane=cock · 06-03-2012 12:03am

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Yep, it's like that whole Modric thing all over again

i have heard a rumour modric was offered a 100k per week contract but has stalled on signing it til he finds out who the manager is next season.

anyone else hear this???

KingdomYid · 06-03-2012 12:17am

keane=cock wrote: »

i have heard a rumour modric was offered a 100k per week contract but has stalled on signing it til he finds out who the manager is next season.

anyone else hear this???

Source? If its the Daily Mail its not true.

everdead.ie · 09-03-2012 10:16am

Rumpled cappello is interested I would take him in a heart beat he'd do wonders for us IMO.

irishmover · 09-03-2012 10:16am

Rumours springing up that HR's been offered a new deal.

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