Gaming Computer

Headshot · 06-02-2011 3:14pm #1

Hello

Im thinking of once again going down the gaming computer route, I got broadband there a few months back and think this is the perfect opportunity to buy.

Now I have the monitor sorted so dont worry about that but I would like a computer that's able to play crysis 2 on the highest level

This is the minimum system requirements
Operating system: Windows XP, Vista or Windows 7, with the latest Service Pack

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo at 2Ghz, or AMD Athlon 64 x2 2Ghz, or better

Memory: 2Gb (Vista requires 3Gb)

Hard disk space: 9Gb

Video: NVidia 8800GT with 512Mb RAM, ATI 3850HD with 512Mb RAM, or better

Sound: DirectX Compatible Sound Card

DirectX®: 9.0c

no release of the recommended requirements as of yet (afaik)

This is just to give you an idea of the requirments. I want a computer that will play crysis and other games on the highest requirement

How much money would I be looking at here? (nothing that will break the bank)

Spear · 06-02-2011 4:06pm

Headshot wrote: »

How much money would I be looking at here? (nothing that will break the bank)

The minimum specs quoted for Crysis 2 are fairly low, and are probably best forgotten. It'd probably be better to give an idea of what budget you're looking for.

Monotype · 06-02-2011 4:07pm

There's a big difference between minimum requirements and -

Headshot wrote: »

I would like a computer that's able to play crysis 2 on the highest level

If Crysis 2 is your main concern, wait a month and maybe Intel might have their new platform sorted by then. A €500 computer could run it. Until we have more info, we can only speculate on the requirements. €800 could run it well. €1200 very well? €10K maximum?

Headshot · 06-02-2011 4:08pm

Spear wrote: »

The minimum specs quoted for Crysis 2 are fairly low, and are probably best forgotten. It'd probably be better to give an idea of what budget you're looking for.

600-800

would that be okay?

Monotype wrote: »

If Crysis 2 is your main concern, wait a month and maybe Intel might have their new platform sorted by then. A €500 computer could run it. Until we have more info, we can only speculate on the requirements. €800 could run it well. €1200 very well? €10K maximum?

what's intel's new platform ?

Spear · 06-02-2011 4:19pm

Headshot wrote: »

600-800

would that be okay?

what's intel's new platform ?

The SandyBridge based processors and attendant chipsets. There's an issue with the SATA controller degrading after time, so they're in the process of recalling them and replacing them.

Headshot · 06-02-2011 4:19pm

Spear wrote: »

The SandyBridge based processors and attendant chipsets. There's an issue with the SATA controller degrading after time, so they're in the process of recalling them and replacing them.

thanks

do you think I should take Monotype's advice and wait for intel to sort the problems ?

Spear · 06-02-2011 4:27pm

Headshot wrote: »

thanks

do you think I should take Monotype's advice and wait for intel to sort the problems ?

If you buy now, it'll just mean downtime while you send the board back for replacement (though these boards shouldn't be being sold). Unless you absolutely must be up and running within the week, I'd wait and get a non-dodgy board.

The Sandy Bridges are certainly what you should be targeting, they're good value and good power.

Example of this

and there's plenty of reviews about.

You have a monitor, what about the rest, case etc?

Headshot · 06-02-2011 4:29pm

Spear wrote: »

If you buy now, it'll just mean downtime while you send the board back for replacement (though these boards shouldn't be being sold). Unless you absolutely must be up and running within the week, I'd wait and get a non-dodgy board.

The Sandy Bridges are certainly what you should be targeting, they're good value and good power.

Example of this

and there's plenty of reviews about.

You have a monitor, what about the rest, case etc?

ya I have this monitor http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?slg=en&scy=fr&ctn=32PFL5405H/12

No case

Jaafa · 06-02-2011 4:32pm

IMO you should wait a while. Once intel sorts out sandybridge their older processors will drop in price by a good bit. They are still perfectly capable processors too so you wont be at a disadvantage.

Spear · 06-02-2011 4:36pm

Headshot wrote: »

ya I have this monitor http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?slg=en&scy=fr&ctn=32PFL5405H/12

No case

Any preference between nVidia and AMD for video cards?

Headshot · 06-02-2011 4:41pm

Spear wrote: »

Any preference between nVidia and AMD for video cards?

not really Spear, what ever its better tbh

This was my last computer, hope anti doesnt mind me quoting his post

Anti wrote: »

Yep, change the board and ram.

Actually, change it all and buy it from somewhere else. Do a self build. In that build you have a crap board, generic ram of a tiny ammount, a never heard of power supply maker. A waste of money litescribe drive. Crappy onboard sound, a absolutly useless cooler and a nasty looking case.

Just go with a komplett.ie bundle for the cpu mobo and ram and pick the rest yourself.

Just remember, the power supply is the one thing you should not go with a cheap maker, Its fine for graphics cards as they will all be the reference nvidia design.

Here, ill spec you something a bit better:

Kit- 6550, mobo, 2gb ram - 370€
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=301189

Graphics card- 8800gts 320mb 275€
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=332345 -- The reason i picked this is because you most likely do not have a <22" widescreen monitor.

Case- gigabyte psioden 84€
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=319574

Psu- hiper 530W 60€
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=322198

Hard drive- Samsung spinpoint 250gb 60€
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=329044

Dvd+- DL RW- Nec 30€
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=325546

That works out at 879€ for all of that. And its a much better spec. If you don tlike the case you can always change that.

those komplett links are useless now

but I know for a fact my friend who I sold my computer to doesnt ever use it so I maybe able to get it off him for the cheap so is it worth buying the above back and then upgrading some parts ?

Monotype · 06-02-2011 5:05pm

You sold it and you're thinking of buying it back?

Nah, don't bother. You would be better off with a more modern platform.
Come back in a month, if you're not in a hurry and want an intel system. Otherwise, you could consider AMD. The quad cores now would be much better than your previous dual core E6550. They're a bit cheaper than Intel's Sandy Bridge if you want a build now.

Headshot · 06-02-2011 5:17pm

I'm not in a rush at all so ill wait, thanks folks

IrishMetalhead · 06-02-2011 8:51pm

im suprised that no one braught up the phenom hex cores there alot cheaper now and should handle crysis 2 without a sweat (but then again the bulldozer cpus are due to be released soon)

IrishMetalhead · 07-02-2011 5:23am

Headshot · 07-02-2011 1:04pm

What's the story with windows 7?

What I mean is I have it on my laptop which ill be selling so will I have to uninstall it from the laptop or can i have it on 2 or more systems?

marco_polo · 07-02-2011 1:17pm

Headshot wrote: »

What's the story with windows 7?

What I mean is I have it on my laptop which ill be selling so will I have to uninstall it from the laptop or can i have it on 2 or more systems?

If it came pre-installed on the laptop then it will be an OEM version and in that case the license is tied to the laptop hardware. Only if you have a full retail version of windows 7 can you move it freely from machine to machine.

Regardless of whether it is a Retail or OEM version of Windows it may only be installed on one machine at a time.

Headshot · 12-02-2011 6:20pm

Nuxxx on another thread is playing crysis 2 on these specs at the highest settings

6gbddr3, i5-760 @ 3.8ghz and a gtx460 1gb @ 875mhz

Is the budget of 600-800 still good ?

IrishMetalhead · 12-02-2011 8:35pm

yea take a look at the one i posted earlier in the threat again it well easily out performs that i5 system because it has a hex core rather then a quad core and 560gtx rather than a 460gtx and its only €17 over budget aswell i think

IrishMetalhead · 12-02-2011 8:43pm

€7 sorry not €17

Headshot · 12-02-2011 8:44pm

what are hardwareversand like to deal with it?

Skerries · 12-02-2011 9:43pm

i sent back some parts without any quibbles and refunded me
they are slow to answer emails though, otherwise the only thing is setting up the international money order

Headshot · 12-02-2011 9:51pm

Skerries wrote: »

otherwise the only thing is setting up the international money order

is that online bank transfer ?

Hank Scorpio · 13-02-2011 7:16pm

Headshot wrote: »

is that online bank transfer ?

Ye, if your a BOI customer you can set them up as an affiliate online. They send a code to your phone. The transfer is instant then

Took about a week for my pc to arrive

Headshot · 14-02-2011 3:17am

IrishMetalhead wrote: »

heres a setup that should run crysis 2 without a shadow of a doubt

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T - €150.82
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=34042&agid=1242

Motherboard: ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 - €91.15
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=34246&agid=1232

Ram: 4GB Mushkin Silverline Stiletto PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24 - €36.71
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=33951&agid=1192

Graphics Card: Point of View GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB - €219.76
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43101&agid=707

Case: Thermaltake V4 Black Edition - €36.82
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=37838&agid=631

PSU: Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 550W - €52.58
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30069&agid=1628

CPU Cooler: Corsair A70 - €39.68
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38536&agid=669

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - €49.34
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28152&agid=689

DVD Drive: Samsung SH-223C - €15.78
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29466&agid=699

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit - €85.20
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29181&agid=185

Shpping - €30

Total - €807.84

im seeing how much this is altogether in the pc configuration on their website and the prices have gone up it seems :rolleyes:

anyway

just a few questions

like do I need
Heat-conductive paste ?

have a look at this pic (apologies for the big pic)

Just want to know it that right and see the 3rd pic

do I need a sound card and a network/communications

Also should I buy the keyboard and mouse there or else where (recommendations would be handy too)

IrishMetalhead · 14-02-2011 3:37am

no you don't need them at all, onboard sound is much better than it used to be plus you should only go for a dedicated soundcard if you have a budget of 1000 or over imo.
plus you get conductive paste with the cpu cooler so no worrys there.
as for keyboards and mice, you can buy your mouse off them but i wouldn't be too sure about a keyboard tho cause your gonna want to make sure it's uk or irish standard layout.
and as for network/communicationsi think they mean headsets nd dedicated network cards etc so you don't need any f them either.

IrishMetalhead · 14-02-2011 3:44am

just ot point out the case seems to be out of stock =/

Headshot · 14-02-2011 3:45am

IrishMetalhead wrote: »

no you don't need them at all, onboard sound is much better than it used to be plus you should only go for a dedicated soundcard if you have a budget of 1000 or over imo.
plus you get conductive paste with the cpu cooler so no worrys there.
as for keyboards and mice, you can buy your mouse off them but i wouldn't be too sure about a keyboard tho cause your gonna want to make sure it's uk or irish standard layout.
and as for network/communicationsi think they mean headsets nd dedicated network cards etc so you don't need any f them either.

oh sound man for the reply

I have proper headsets I use for gaming, Sharkoon Xtatic so ill beable to use them with my this computer, right ?

This is probably a stupid question but ill beable to put the ethernet cable in the back of this and Ill have my internet, right?

IrishMetalhead wrote: »

just ot point out the case seems to be out of stock =/

its no bother, I wont be ordering it right away

IrishMetalhead · 14-02-2011 3:53am

yup plug and play with windows 7 and all

just out of curiosity where are you located?
cause I got loads of oem windows os's and i'm using them as a permotion for my computer building service atm will work out cheaper then paying them to assemble it and for the os aswell

Headshot · 14-02-2011 3:55am

IrishMetalhead wrote: »

yup plug and play with windows 7 and all
just out of curiosity where are you located?
cause I got loads of oem windows os's and i'm using them as a permotion for my computer building service atm will work out cheaper then paying them to assemble it and for the os aswell

im based in tipp my friend but im willing to travel within reason or An Post could help us out

IrishMetalhead · 14-02-2011 4:01am

well i'm located in co. wicklow so i am a fair distance away and i wouldn't know how much it would cost to ship a pc back and forth (plus would you trust an post handling your expensive computer?) so it all depends on that i supose

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