M17/M18 - Gort to Tuam [open to traffic]

AugustusMinimus · 20-09-2014 9:52am

f2 wrote: »

its started, engineers on the ground looking for compounds, sites to take fill. Machinery will follow... be patient! Fencing will soon start, 2018 will come and go M17 in place, what will we talk about then....

Commencement of funding of the M20 please God.

PopIT · 29-09-2014 1:18pm

Hi All, Is there anywhere to get a more detailed map of the new motorway especially around Ardrahan?

oisin_reme · 29-09-2014 1:23pm

What level of detail are you looking for, the EIS and scheme map are available from the Galway CC website?

PopIT · 29-09-2014 1:27pm

Something that might show where the road comes near to boundary lines like on the County Council website. I can see the road but it is not how close it is coming to a house we currently renting. Looking at the map it is supposed to come right over the house!

oisin_reme · 29-09-2014 1:30pm

The CPO schedule and deposit maps are also on the website, sorry I can't provide a link but if you google N18 CPO maps it's the first link that comes up.

These show all lands acquired for the project and should show buildings to be demolished also (which are also listed in the EIS)

oisin_reme · 29-09-2014 1:33pm

Also, all buildings to be demolished have already been taken over by the PPP Co. so it shouldn't include the house you're living in now.

antoobrien · 29-09-2014 2:04pm

PopIT wrote: »

Something that might show where the road comes near to boundary lines like on the County Council website. I can see the road but it is not how close it is coming to a house we currently renting. Looking at the map it is supposed to come right over the house!

The Galway Co Co project page has all the necessary links the the three component projects of the scheme: http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/RoadsTransportation/RoadProjects/N17N18GorttoTuamScheme/

The deposit maps for the M18 section are available here: http://www.galway.ie/RoadProjects/n18orangort/depmaps.htm

PopIT · 29-09-2014 2:12pm

Thank you. Just looking at the section and it does not show our house on it but does show a farm house just over the road from us and they seem a good closer then us to it.

EDIT: Would I be right in saying that all in red boundary is the CPO area?

ratracer · 04-10-2014 8:25am

A new works access site has been opened near the Kiltiernan interchange this week, just off the Ardrahan - Kinvara road. Not entirely sure this is for the motorway construction, but I wouldn't imagine anything else that close to the site of the junction would be allowed at this stage.

f2 · 09-10-2014 9:55pm

Anybody have experience , good or bad, in taking fill from the contractors to reclaim land, they are promising to turn a hole into ground you can cut silage on

GDSGR8 · 09-10-2014 10:13pm

f2 wrote: »

Anybody have experience , good or bad, in taking fill from the contractors to reclaim land, they are promising to turn a hole into ground you can cut silage on

You'll probably need to get a waste licence to accept the material. Other than that, it should be fine as long as they're one of the well known contractors.

ratracer · 10-10-2014 7:20am

ratracer wrote: »

A new works access site has been opened near the Kiltiernan interchange this week, just off the Ardrahan - Kinvara road. Not entirely sure this is for the motorway construction, but I wouldn't imagine anything else that close to the site of the junction would be allowed at this stage.

I see from yesterdays Connacht Tribune that this was just some environmentallists moving a field of flowers from the site to somewhere else. I cant find an online link, I read an actual paper for once!

Ascii · 13-10-2014 11:57am

f2 wrote: »

Anybody have experience , good or bad, in taking fill from the contractors to reclaim land, they are promising to turn a hole into ground you can cut silage on

You used to be able to get a land reclamation licence from the council a few years ago. Don’t if that exists still or are they all gone down the route of waste landfills in which case you would need to get a waste permit licence. Was you land identified at planning stage as being an “excess material recovery area”. In a nut shell you will never have good silage ground after they do a job on it, believe me. You will always have a problem with soakage and drainage. The will have to put a pigs back hump in the middle to throw the water off. They will never put enough topsoil back to make it any way successful. It will only be good for sheep for the first few years till the skin thickens on it. If you have an existing fence it will usually be rendered useless following the works. Look at it this way, if you have low ****e ground that you only every graze a few cattle on and is soft/waterlogged during spells of the year then you have nothing to lose. If you have a good silage field and they promise you they will raise it and make better, I would be very wary.

BTW can you send on a snap of the field in question.

f2 · 13-10-2014 9:00pm

Its low ground, some would never had a tractor drive over it, they are talking new fences and drains where necessary. They are organising waste permits etc, They have said they are willing to put this in writing so it seems worth the gamble!

flat 2 the..... · 14-10-2014 1:19pm

Make sure you know what they will be tipping in your land and they dont end up useing it as a lagoon for wet bog which might never dry out again

rickjames16 · 15-10-2014 6:23am

Any of that money from yesterday going towards the road ? I go from Ennis to Galway every day and have endured 9 weeks of roadworks now and am burnt from it .. Journey time home this year has gone from 1 hr and 10 to 1 hr and 50 ! All these road works on one stretch of road .. Ardrahan then oranmore , now the claregalway side of Oran more and also the gort Ennis motorway ! I'm sure everyone else is getting very fed up also .. Added to that is the increased traffic now at oranmore and clarenbridge in the mornings ! Waiting and waiting and waiting for this road to start .. I think at this stage I need to give up and try and find a job closer to home ! Enda s turf turning exercise has only frustrated me more and the entire lack of communication .. We have gotten how many announcements now that the project was about the start and then always silence ! #fed up

antoobrien · 15-10-2014 8:01am

rickjames16 wrote: »

Any of that money from yesterday going towards the road ?

Money is already there, contracts signed.

Up to the contractors now.

glineli · 15-10-2014 8:47am

rickjames16 wrote: »

Any of that money from yesterday going towards the road ? I go from Ennis to Galway every day and have endured 9 weeks of roadworks now and am burnt from it .. Journey time home this year has gone from 1 hr and 10 to 1 hr and 50 ! All these road works on one stretch of road .. Ardrahan then oranmore , now the claregalway side of Oran more and also the gort Ennis motorway ! I'm sure everyone else is getting very fed up also .. Added to that is the increased traffic now at oranmore and clarenbridge in the mornings ! Waiting and waiting and waiting for this road to start .. I think at this stage I need to give up and try and find a job closer to home ! Enda s turf turning exercise has only frustrated me more and the entire lack of communication .. We have gotten how many announcements now that the project was about the start and then always silence ! #fed up

I am going from Crusheen to Galway, gone from about 40 minutes to an hour. Driving home yesterday evening, a lovely evening, around 6 and all the parked machinery on the M18. Why isnt there work taking place throughout the evening and even the night. They have shut down a motorway for gods sake. Its a joke. Any other country would work through the night to get it open as soon as possible.

The roadworks in Ardrahan were required for the heavy machinery that will be moving on site i believe. They would have destroyed the road otherwise.

ratracer · 15-10-2014 11:57am

glineli wrote: »

I am going from Crusheen to Galway, gone from about 40 minutes to an hour. Driving home yesterday evening, a lovely evening, around 6 and all the parked machinery on the M18. Why isnt there work taking place throughout the evening and even the night. They have shut down a motorway for gods sake. Its a joke. Any other country would work through the night to get it open as soon as possible.

The roadworks in Ardrahan were required for the heavy machinery that will be moving on site i believe. They would have destroyed the road otherwise.

This.

I understand not being able to work on roads in the night time when there is widespread disrution of residential areas. I cannot understand how a motorway was allowed to be closed for four days to facilitate roadworks that could and should have been done at night.

cgcsb · 15-10-2014 6:51pm

rickjames16 wrote: »

Any of that money from yesterday going towards the road ? I go from Ennis to Galway every day and have endured 9 weeks of roadworks now and am burnt from it .. Journey time home this year has gone from 1 hr and 10 to 1 hr and 50 ! All these road works on one stretch of road .. Ardrahan then oranmore , now the claregalway side of Oran more and also the gort Ennis motorway ! I'm sure everyone else is getting very fed up also .. Added to that is the increased traffic now at oranmore and clarenbridge in the mornings ! Waiting and waiting and waiting for this road to start .. I think at this stage I need to give up and try and find a job closer to home ! Enda s turf turning exercise has only frustrated me more and the entire lack of communication .. We have gotten how many announcements now that the project was about the start and then always silence ! #fed up

You can take a train from Ennis to Galway in about 1hr15mins, the first train on weekday mornings leaves Ennis at 06:49 and arrives at Galway at 08:10 plenty of time for connecting buses.

Use the existing infrastructure.

Ericfast · 15-10-2014 7:46pm

cgcsb wrote: »

You can take a train from Ennis to Galway in about 1hr15mins, the first train on weekday mornings leaves Ennis at 06:49 and arrives at Galway at 08:10 plenty of time for connecting buses.

Use the existing infrastructure.

I presume that's sarcasm

cgcsb · 15-10-2014 8:00pm

Ericfast wrote: »

I presume that's sarcasm

Of course not. Why would one drive when there is a reasonable public transport alternative. Certainly beats waiting around for more motorways to be built

Cookiemunster · 15-10-2014 9:36pm

cgcsb wrote: »

Of course not. Why would one drive when there is a reasonable public transport alternative. Certainly beats waiting around for more motorways to be built

Because one may not work or live anywhere near a train station and also may not have any public transport options to get to from said train stations maybe?

glineli · 16-10-2014 11:07am

Rumours of heavy machinery on the road into Coole Park and on the way down from Kiltartan school

flat 2 the..... · 16-10-2014 11:37am

Passed by that way yesterday never seen anything, but if they are its good news

spacetweek · 16-10-2014 12:32pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Because one may not work or live anywhere near a train station and also may not have any public transport options to get to from said train stations maybe?

Could he not drive there and park n ride? Doesn't sound that hard.

Cookiemunster · 16-10-2014 1:03pm

spacetweek wrote: »

Could he not drive there and park n ride? Doesn't sound that hard.

He could, but what if he didn't work anywhere near the other station or near a bus route that serves that station?

veryangryman · 16-10-2014 4:01pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

He could, but what if he didn't work anywhere near the other station or near a bus route that serves that station?

I second that. Ballybrit is a fine example. Train REALLY should stop nearby. Eyre Square grand for those in retail. Rest of Galway trainfolk have to keep the taxi companies in business.

GDSGR8 · 16-10-2014 8:48pm

flat 2 the..... wrote: »

Passed by that way yesterday never seen anything, but if they are its good news

They won't be doing much until the spring.

GDSGR8 · 16-10-2014 8:49pm

veryangryman wrote: »

I second that. Ballybrit is a fine example. Train REALLY should stop nearby. Eyre Square grand for those in retail. Rest of Galway trainfolk have to keep the taxi companies in business.

Ballybrit is not particularly close to the railway line, so what are you suggesting should be done?

cgcsb · 20-10-2014 1:04pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Because one may not work or live anywhere near a train station and also may not have any public transport options to get to from said train stations maybe?

I said 'when there's a reasonable public transport option available' i.e. for all legs of the trip.

cgcsb · 20-10-2014 1:07pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

He could, but what if he didn't work anywhere near the other station or near a bus route that serves that station?

Eyre Square is well served by onward bus routes in fairness. I only made the point because there is existing infrastructure in place to help with this journey, and it was delivered at considerable expense, why not use it before demanding a new more expensive option.

rickjames16 · 21-10-2014 8:47am

and yet more roadworks .. 20 mins in killcollgin this morning , when is this going to stop .. 10/11 weeks of it now ! i live in ennis but work in shrule so have to go to claregalway and cut accross ! how can public transport help me ?

glineli · 21-10-2014 10:36pm

rickjames16 wrote: »

and yet more roadworks .. 20 mins in killcollgin this morning , when is this going to stop .. 10/11 weeks of it now ! i live in ennis but work in shrule so have to go to claregalway and cut accross ! how can public transport help me ?

It's disgraceful, no consideration at all. The road in kilcolgan was fine aswell. Did the council just find a pot of money or something

Cookiemunster · 22-10-2014 9:54am

glineli wrote: »

It's disgraceful, no consideration at all. The road in kilcolgan was fine aswell. Did the council just find a pot of money or something

It's coming towards the end of the year. Councils have to use their roads allocation before before January or lose what they don't spend next year. It's a ridiculous system, but it's the same in every county.

glineli · 29-10-2014 3:02pm

M18 north of Crusheen closed again today, hopefully it's to remove those speed bumps they put on the road when it was last closed

jenningso · 29-10-2014 5:34pm

http://galwaybayfm.ie/work-begin-gort-tuam-motorway-january/

Is this a record for the signing of a contract, turning of the sod and actual work beginning nearly 7 months later? Don't get me wrong, I'll be happy to see it actually starting someday! Whenever!

busyatwork · 06-11-2014 12:52pm

Is there any sign of construction starting on this road , I know ots late in the year now but the must have some compounds and machinery on site at this stage .
when is the completion date for this road or is it going to start at all .

spacetweek · 06-11-2014 12:57pm

busyatwork wrote: »

Is there any sign of construction starting on this road , I know ots late in the year now but the must have some compounds and machinery on site at this stage .
when is the completion date for this road or is it going to start at all .

Latest news is it's starting in January and will open in 2018.

busyatwork · 06-11-2014 1:52pm

spacetweek wrote: »

Latest news is it's starting in January and will open in 2018.

2018 completion date will give them plenty of time , has any work started anywhere along the route at the moment ,

f2 · 06-11-2014 10:26pm

Irish drilliing are doing boreholes at the moment, some survey work, Roadbridge rumoured to have a deal done for a compound behind the Westwing restaurant on the edge of Tuam, also spoke to a landowner who was approached to take fill from the works, looks like after Christmas before any major work at the Tuam end, there seems to be more activity towards theGort end

busyatwork · 06-11-2014 11:22pm

f2 wrote: »

Irish drilliing are doing boreholes at the moment, some survey work, Roadbridge rumoured to have a deal done for a compound behind the Westwing restaurant on the edge of Tuam, also spoke to a landowner who was approached to take fill from the works, looks like after Christmas before any major work at the Tuam end, there seems to be more activity towards theGort end

Is it not road works on the existing m18 the work at the gort end is

marno21 · 11-11-2014 12:51am

Anyone notice the sign going onto the M18 from the N18 at Gort says M20? Or am I being too observant?

Hopefully they will be moving that M20 sign to Buttevant very soon

busyatwork · 12-11-2014 12:38pm

Just after talking with engineer that is working for Roadbridge civil,well he has said they are starting work in February 2015 but he told me the are finding it difficult to get machinery to do the earth works and may cause a problem for them to start work , he said all Roadbridges plant is in wales and other parts of the Uk this is not good news.i also mentioned Wills bro to him and No not doing any work .What happened all the machinery that was in ireland

kippy · 12-11-2014 12:41pm

busyatwork wrote: »

Just after talking with engineer that is working for Roadbridge civil,well he has said they are starting work in February 2015 but he told me the are finding it difficult to get machinery to do the earth works and may cause a problem for them to start work , he said all Roadbridges plant is in wales and other parts of the Uk this is not good news.i also mentioned Wills bro to him and No not doing any work .What happened all the machinery that was in ireland

What happened all the machinery that was in Ireland?
I'd suggest there wasn't enough work for it.

busyatwork · 12-11-2014 12:50pm

kippy wrote: »

What happened all the machinery that was in Ireland?
I'd suggest there wasn't enough work for it.

Ya ya i suppose sure what do the do now

antoobrien · 12-11-2014 12:56pm

kippy wrote: »

What happened all the machinery that was in Ireland?

It was sold off.

kippy · 12-11-2014 1:01pm

antoobrien wrote: »

It was sold off.

Sorry Antoo, that was a kind of rhetorical question (well a rhetorical question that I answered)

Yeah, lots and lots of heavy plant that "resided" here from 02-09 or so was sold off or moved elsewhere as the work wasn't here for it.

busyatwork · 12-11-2014 2:49pm

With no machinery left and its causing delay for construction to start , what will the do or is this just rubbish that the company is talking or is there some sort of funding issue behind the scenes , have they reilised there isnt enought traffic along this route

Cookiemunster · 12-11-2014 3:13pm

busyatwork wrote: »

With no machinery left and its causing delay for construction to start , what will the do or is this just rubbish that the company is talking or is there some sort of funding issue behind the scenes , have they reilised there isnt enought traffic along this route

There isn't going to be a toll. They build and maintain the road for 30 years and get paid by the government over the course of the contract.

M17/M18 - Gort to Tuam [open to traffic]

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