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Malaysia Airlines plane shot down in Ukraine near Russian border[Mod warning post#193

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    #152
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    green_screen wrote: »
    Stinicker, upset as you are, take comfort that following your gut saved your life. Never forget to trust your gut at all times. Take care of yourself, mate.

    I was going to book for Thursday but opted for Wednesday instead as I just got a bad feeling about it despite the cheaper price on Thursday. I'm thinking of all those passengers, the plane on Wed was 100% full with all different nationalities onboard and security in AMS is as strict as the USA with full body scanners also.

    My opting to spend €65 more and go a day earlier saved my life.


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    #153
    vicwatson
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    It's all pointing to the rebels and a very large mistake, wonder how Russia will respond to this


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    #154
    vicwatson
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    Stinicker wrote: »
    I was going to book for Thursday but opted for Wednesday instead as I just got a bad feeling about it despite the cheaper price on Thursday. I'm thinking of all those passengers, the plane on Wed was 100% full with all different nationalities onboard and security in AMS is as strict as the USA with full body scanners also.

    My opting to spend €65 more and go a day earlier saved my life.


    No doubt you'll be contacted by the media here (if they haven't already), you is lucky duck !:p


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    #155
    thebannerboy
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    popepaisley1 wrote: »
    no i was not aware of this. were they going to take over the school and shoot all the kids? is that what you are saying? is this a fact or are you just jumping to some crazy conclusion?

    the only thing i am aware of is that 4 palestinian kids were murdered on a beach yesterday

    I don't want to distract from the thread so leave it.

    But if 14 armed Jihad's emerged from a tunnel a mile from a school in Israel and it was in they're charter to kill all Jews, you would hardly be labelled as jumping to conclusions for being concerned for the welfare of those kids.


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    #156
    vicwatson
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    Reports coming out say the aircraft was shot down by a BUK anti aircraft missile


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    #157
    vicwatson
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    Transaero have confirmed they will be avoiding Ukrainian air space for the foreseeable future


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    #158
    sentient_6
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    thebannerboy wrote: »
    I don't want to distract from the thread so leave it.

    But.......

    :rolleyes:


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    #159
    vicwatson
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    Press conference from MA at 21.00 (04.00 local)


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    #160
    col.in.Cr
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    They don't waste time do they, nasty *****

    http://whois.domaintools.com/flightmh17.com


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    #161
    Sully
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    Lufthansa will also be avoiding the airspace.


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    #162
    GottaGetGatt
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    col.in.Cr wrote: »
    They don't waste time do they, nasty *****

    http://whois.domaintools.com/flightmh17.com

    What is that?


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    #163
    Stinicker
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    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    Ok after seeing crash site pictures I see why they aren't showing footage in the news .

    There was a lot of families going to Bali via KL on my flight, primarily Dutch, I was sitting next a 3 year old child and his mum on one side and two Aussies on the other as I was slap in the middle of the 2-5-2 layout.


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    #164
    cml387
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    This is from the FAA.

    These are restrictions to US aircraft in the Simferopol FIR.


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    #165
    happywithlife
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    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    There will more then likely be Irish passengers on board. Very popular flight for people flying to Australia. Flew this route myself.

    That's what I thought when I heard it first
    Jesus! :-(

    RIP to all on board.


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    #166
    vicwatson
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    GottaGetGatt wrote: »
    What is that?

    Somebody has registered the .com web address of the flight
    Sully wrote: »
    Lufthansa will also be avoiding the airspace.

    Post 140;)


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    #167
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Had the gobx****e rebels not got planefinder or flightradar to see it was a commercial aircraft? plenty of people with mobile phones out there able to twit pics


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    #168
    vicwatson
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    Aeroflot confirm they will not fly over Ukraine air space


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    #169
    Sir_Name
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    RIP to all those innocent people on that flight.

    I flew AMS to KL on MH17 in Apr with Malaysian Airlines, and after the flight MH370 went missing, I was feeling decidedly nervous. I have to say, I thought the crew were the best I had ever flown with. I really feel for all the people who work for Malaysian Airlines after two major tragedies in 6 months.
    Considering the majority of people on my flight were Irish & British flying to Australia, I am praying that no one I know has lost a loved one.


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    #170
    fr336
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    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    There will more then likely be Irish passengers on board. Very popular flight for people flying to Australia. Flew this route myself.

    I read in here that there are no Irish on board.


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    #171
    Grandpa Hassan
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    How is it not standard procedure to not fly over war zones? Sorry if that's been answered already....

    I'd kind of like to know as a frequent long haul flyer


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    #172
    Lapin
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    vicwatson wrote: »
    Air France have confirmed they will be avoiding the airspace
    Sully wrote: »
    Lufthansa will also be avoiding the airspace.

    I see this as little more than reassuring PR from the airlines mentioned and thats fair enough.

    However, I expect all airlines using that airspace regularly will avoid the area for the foreseeable future.

    I doubt they'll have any choice in the matter to be honest.


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    #173
    Simon Gruber Says
    Registered Users Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Simon Gruber Says


    Can a mod put a warning on the link to the twitter account a couple pages back. Contains extremely graphic pictures.


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    #174
    royalflush2003
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    vicwatson wrote: »
    Had the gobx****e rebels not got planefinder or flightradar to see it was a commercial aircraft? plenty of people with mobile phones out there able to twit pics

    It was ukraine army seemingly not rebels


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    #175
    vicwatson
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    Virgin Airlines diverting planes around Ukraine


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    #176
    brevity
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    Grandpa Hassan wrote: »
    How is it not standard procedure to not fly over war zones? Sorry if that's been answered already....

    I'd kind of like to know as a frequent long haul flyer

    Apparently not.
    My colleague Dan Milmo in London reports that it has been normal practice for airlines to fly over conflict zones since the Ukraine conflict began. He interviewed a pilot for a major European airline:

    "We would often avoid areas where there is air-to-air conflict, but we flew over Iraq and Afghanistan when the British and US armed forces were delpoyed there, because only one side was using military jets."

    Explaining why airlines fly over conflict zones where groups might be in possession of ground-to-air missiles, the pilot said: "There will be weapons based on the ground when you are at 30,000 feet, but that is far up in the air. There are not many missile systems that can be so accurate."

    His comments suggest that assumptions about weapons capabilities on the ground will have to be reevaluated, pending investigation of the crash.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/17/malaysia-airlines-plane-crashes-ukraine-live


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    #177
    fr336
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    Grandpa Hassan wrote: »
    How is it not standard procedure to not fly over war zones? Sorry if that's been answered already....

    Money money money.......


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    #178
    Penny Tration
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    highlydebased wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/MatevzNovak

    Many pictures on that twitter account

    BswrT8RIUAAirQo.jpg:large
    Bswpep-IYAA7ziz.jpg:large
    BswjfYMIMAAtZDS.jpg:large

    Considering one of the first pictures on that account is a graphic photo of a body, you should really have posted a warning. What a horrible thing to see :(


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    #179
    vicwatson
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    Rebels will prob steal the black boxes, hopefully not


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    #180
    ardmacha
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    I've flown to Asia several times, most recently earlier this week. I often noted that we were over the likes of Chechnya at a time when there would have ground fighting there.


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    #181
    keith16
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    Stinicker wrote: »
    I'm devastated, this was me except something made me pay a few more euros to go for Wednesdays flight instead of Thursdays. I never had such a close call with death, I was trembling at AMS before boarding and the gate agent even asked me if I was ok.

    Hey dude, don't know what to say to you other than don't let the randomness of life get to you.

    You changed flight for a reason. Live life to the full.


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