Cork GAA Discussion Thread

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

I'm glad Glen Kennefick stood out with the B team - I know the lad and he is living and going to school in North Cork, but playing with the Glen, only back after breaking his leg a few months ago, missed out on competing at the All Ireland school athletics.

He played tonight,in the minor county final,blackrock won their third in a row,2-12 to 1-13.

The Glen have not won since 2005.

I was not at it,so dont know how he played.

Thats a well drilled Rockies team do,Jim Cashman is over then,and Fergal ryan and wayne sherlock would have done work with them.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Fair play your Nemo bet was bang on the money?and a third final 3 years in a row.

A repeat of earlier in the year,a Nemo haven final.


Any report Haven from the match.Didnt make today.


Bar the usal suspects,any cork players stand out for the future?ie the driscoll brothers?dorman wall,Deane ,cronin etc?

some game carbery had plenty of chances but didnt take. gene to sons getting the didnt help. haven showed some spirit t win it. deane was carbery best player got savage goal and should be on cork panel next year

sean86 wrote: »

some game carbery had plenty of chances but didnt take. gene to sons getting the didnt help. haven showed some spirit t win it. deane was carbery best player got savage goal and should be on cork panel next year

A very good player,how before they were sent off the driscoll brothers and jamie wall perform?

darragh_haven wrote: »

I wasn't able to make the game due to my OH having a family bereavement. But my brother said Deane was very good too. Really out shone anyone one else. He thought Wall was ok, but not brilliant. It was a case of the haven grinding out the win.

Sorry to hear that.

I thought ye would shade it,and hurley and cahalane were meant be a class apart.


I thought Nemo would loose,but like you said Nemo are Nemo.

Be a great final,be a close one to call.

Either the two teams be a match for anyone in Munster on their day.It probably be Dr crokes that win the Kerry County.


Ludruicous to think Deane was overlooked last year for cork.

I remember against a physically dominant dublin in the 2012 u21 semifinal he was the only cork player that done himself justice and has a great engine,covered every blade of grass.Great sign of a player to do that on a beaten team.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Thats a well drilled Rockies team do,Jim Cashman is over then,and Fergal ryan and wayne sherlock would have done work with them.

True - Rockies have had no issues underage, the problem lies in channeling that up to Senior level.

Was at the game vs. Ballymartle the other day and they're missing one or two forwards by the looks of things. Hopefully should see some young fellas coming through in the next few years.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

A very good player,how before they were sent off the driscoll brothers and jamie wall perform?

biran was sent off ten min into 2nd half i think decked fella off da ball. colm off last few min triped hurley on his way true for goal. wall handy set up deane for da goal

D'Agger wrote: »

Hopefully Blackrock can add that alright yeah, would like to see the lads win it.

I haven't watched much hurling over the past few years and would mainly have watched inter coun.ty as opposed to club games but I thought he was their brightest forward on the day, showed some nice touches.

I can't remember what he scored but he came out the field for ball a bit and was busying himself around the place. That said, if he was employed in that way against Clare then I wouldn't see him getting much change off their half back line if I'm honest.

Being beaten by a solid Ballymartle team,with more expierence will stand to them.Ballymartle will be a handful for most teams on their day.

Defo not as a half forward ,i agree.


Our bench is weak,with only two realistic forwards.
But if cian mac or moylan if he doesnt start(i hope he does),are used as subs and we need a forward i hope its him we use as he can score ,long distance,or michael o sullivan ,as a ball winner.

If we have to bring on the other two forward subs were goosed.

What you make of the intermediate football?I fancy Clyda,after years of unlimited heartbreak.I hope they win it this time.I think if they get to the final,they will win,but Nemo be a huge ask,but i fancy them to shade it.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

INTER-COUNTY Management
At the County Board meeting of September 17th, the outgoing Intermediate Hurling management (Liam Hayes, Pat O'Connell, Seamus Lawton, Peter Brennan and Mark Kenny) were re-appointed for a two-year term. The Junior Football management (Paul McCarthy, Danny Culloty, Michael Lyons, Tim O'Sullivan plus a replacement for Seán Bownes who has moved to U21) also received a one-year extension to their term on the basis of their All-Ireland Final victory this year.

Three new selection committees were set up as follows:

Senior Football - Bob Ryan, Gerard Lane, Frank Murphy, Dermot O'Regan (Douglas), Paul McCarthy (Kinsale) and Frank Long (Bandon).

U21 Hurling - Bob Ryan, Frank Murphy, Diarmuid O'Donovan, Christy Ring (Glen Rovers), Michael O'Brien (Aghada), Seán McAuliffe (Kilbrin).

Minor Hurling - Bob Ryan, Frank Murphy, Diarmuid O'Donovan, Pat Horgan (Midleton), Frank McCarthy (Ballincollig) plus a Coiste na nÓg nominee to be confirmed.

These committees will report back to the County Board in due course.

Its comical at this stage.Frank meant to be taking a back seat ,and have nothing to do with new management teams ,meant to be primarily involved in the Pairc,yet hes on every commitee going.


Just a waste of time and pure pr,the sub commitees.While theres one or two good people their,its irrelvant ,Frank has casting vote,ably supported by Bob Ryan,and O donovan.


The good news it seems,that Fitzgerald is gone.Not a day too soon.

God only knows who they will appoint.Please god it is the right man.I dread to think who they will appoint.
Teddy Mac,I hope is not involved..It be a terrible move.A selector in 2011,laois coudnt get rid of him fast enough.He is currently duel coach with Newcastlewest.

The reason i say him,is he was a selector with o donovan under Gerald ,and Frank and the Board are big fans.He was a great player,but when he sold hes new book last year,their was a huge county board support crew,to launch it for him.I have no problem with that,but unfortunately,Cocoran,Cusack ,equally great cork heroes didnt get the same privedlge.

I remember Brian the great in Easons signing copies on a sat morning, in a small aera and no one was their with him.

It seems kenneally is gone.I thought he would be a shoe in ,after Ryan endorsed the great job he done a few weeks ago.I had heard he was offered it a few wks ago but turned it down,and then had heard he was going to take it.

Whatever is correct,thank fully he is gone.Good player,but not what Cork need as a manager.

These appointments should have been done sooner,espiceally the minor with the harty cup starting in the end of the month.But if the right man is appointed,it will make up for it.

I would go so far as saying the minor and u21 appointments are equally as important as the result on the 28th of sept with the seniors.

The other point of note is,and I only realised this morning,Diarmuid is on every committee bar the senior one.Why?

I think this is ominous and spells dissaster,as the only reason they would leave him of it,if he was involved himself,as a selector with cuthbhert.

O donovan seems to regard himself a voice of cork football,in that he is a great man to write an article on past events and say how it should be done.More hindsight than living in the moment.

He shouldnt be a selector,was in charge minor teams,that were awful,yet the same core players,won u21 titles with cork.


He travelled to uk and gaelic grounds for cork junior games.I have no doubt he is a football man,but coaching nt he strong point.


He also over the saw the development squads,but that was such a mess it had to be changed.


The same guy said underage was more about producing players,and even if we are beaten,as long as we get a senior all ireland winner every 12 years,was that a true reflection when they should be gauged.

No county board delegate should be in any coaching capacity of a team.If that happens,then were back to the old days.


I wouldnt say Jbm is a frank man or sweeten up to him.He knows how to play him,but JBM is not a yes man,he refused to take the u21 team in 2009,when he couldnt pick he own management team.


You can be certain ,that if jbm wasnt manager,ger cunnigham wouldnt be involved.The fact frank went to Jbm to take the job,you can be sure jbm made it clear ,it was on hes terms.Jbm is cute ,and he brought in seanie mcgrath ,as he knew frank would be happy.Seanie is a board man.


You c,the one thing JBM, has ,is he everyone hero in cork Gaa.A folk hero,a god ,a legend.He has no Enemies.

The fact he won in football hurling,and as a manager at minor and senior,means both the football and hurling community unite with him.


Its not a case of roy keane or gerald mac,where opionions are divided.
JBM has no critics.He is now immune from the Board, as he cant be touched.Not that he would act that way,but if JBM wants anything for the team,it wont be refused.And their wont be any problem with frank while he is there.But it is more to do with the fact,if their was the Board would loose,and they would loose the publicty battle,as jbm is loved and respected by everyone throughout the country and has a proven record in management.It has nothing to do with he being a board man.


In regards couinhan,i will give him credit where due.He did help Diarmuid duggan and supported him greatly when he was chasing the board for medical expenses.

Couinhan was and is a decent man,a gentleman.My problem was soley him as a manager.The too shouldnt be confused.

FOOTBALL PLAYMAKER TO HAVE SURGERY AGAIN TO END INJURY NIGHTMARE
CORK FOOTBALL PLAYMAKER TO HAVE SURGERY AGAIN TO END INJURY NIGHTMARE


WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2013
CORK playmaker Pa Kelly is scheduled to have surgery tomorrow at the Sports Surgery Clinic in Santry on his troublesome and frustrating hip problem.
Kelly already had surgery last winter but this time the focus will be on healing cartilage damage in the hip joint area, after his role with the Rebels was extremely restricted this season.
The surgery will be carried out by Professor Kevin Mulhall, a hip and knee reconstruction, arthroplasty and joint preservation surgeon, as was the case previously at the clinic and Kelly hopes that his recovery will be complete in four to four-and-a-half months.
“I was originally pencilled in to have the operation done in a few weeks but have gotten a cancellation so it’s all systems go for tomorrow,” Kelly said.
“It’s obviously on the hip again, a similar enough situation to the last time I got it done but with trying to heal the joint area with the cartilage.
“The last operation I got done worked well to a point but it got very sore later on. We said we would go again and fingers crossed this will work longer-term.”
“The last issue was related to excess bone in the leg which impacted on the cartilage in the hip joint whereas now there is very little cartilage left in some parts of the hip.
“Hopefully, though, this surgery will sort that.”
Supporters were questioning why Kelly was not introduced in the latter stages of the All-Ireland SFC quarter-final against Dublin, especially as he had replaced Alan O’Connor in the final minutes of the victory over Galway the previous week. The attacker revealed he had not trained sufficiently in the days leading up to the tie.
Kelly started against Clare and Limerick, and came on against Galway, but didn’t feature against Kerry and Dublin last summer.
“I probably would have been able to play a bit against Dublin alright but to be honest I wouldn’t have been operating at 100% in terms of training in the build-up and had not been fit all summer so cannot have too many complaints.
“Hopefully after this surgery I will have a clearer run next season,” he said.

In other football news UCC have recruited Kerry icon Tomás Ó Sé, who works as a teacher on Leeside, to oversee their freshers football team for the 2013/14 season.
Meanwhile, at last night’s Cork County Board meeting At the County Board meeting of September 17th, the outgoing the intermediate hurling management — Liam Hayes, Pat O’Connell, Seamus Lawton, Peter Brennan and Mark Kenny — were re-appointed for a two-year term, and the All-Ireland winning junior football management of Paul McCarthy, Danny Culloty, Michael Lyons and Tim O’Sullivan are back for another year. Selector Seán Bownes has moved to U21.

Three selection committees were set up to appoint the senior football, U21 hurling and minor hurling managers.
Senior football: Bob Ryan, Gerard Lane, Frank Murphy, Dermot O’Regan (Douglas), Paul McCarthy (Kinsale) and Frank Long (Bandon).

U21 hurling: Bob Ryan, Frank Murphy, Diarmuid O’Donovan, Christy Ring (Glen Rovers), Michael O’Brien (Aghada), and Seán McAuliffe (Kilbrin).

Minor hurling: Bob Ryan, Frank Murphy, Diarmuid O’Donovan, Pat Horgan (Midleton), Frank McCarthy (Ballincollig) plus a Coiste na nÓg nominee to be confirmed.

These committees will report back to the County Board in due course.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

James Mcgrath ref for the final,the worst ref out their.

He can't be any worse than Gavin

Hopefully McGrath understands the rules in relation to chopping, frontal charges and striking across the head off the ball.

Mouth of the South wrote: »

Striking across the head off the ball - like Honan did? 100% agree. Hope he understands that pushes in the back like the Clare backs did all day under dropping balls are frees as well, that goalkeepers can't gallop out for penalties and 21's and that retakes should be taken if they do, that adding on phantom time to added time to ensure draws is bogus refereeing, that frontal assaults are frees, that premeditated hopping off freetakers by half the Clare team should be dealt with, that backroom staff can't encroach on the pitch and that lunatic whinging managers who try to start fights on the sideline are an embarrassment to the GAA and should be dealt with too.

He made poor decisions on the day. He cant be blamed for only yellows to Honan and O Neill, that's the fault of his umpires whose job it is to supposedly help the ref. Instead they either missed something directly in front of them, or bottles it.

He missed 2 glaringly obvious things, one Kelly coming way off his line to stop Nash's 21 and two, the chop on David MacInerney in the 1st half.

He didn't add on phantom time, he was entitled to AT LEAST 2 MINUTES which means the minimum to be played was 2 minutes