Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

KevIRL wrote: »

Also, it should be noted we now face into our 8th Munster final since 2002. Thats pretty incredible stuff for Waterford. I hope that our support havent gotten to the stage of just expecting to be in the Final each season, as that consistency isnt always likely to be there

And fourth final in a row. We have only had to win one game in each of the four years but it's still some going. I think there may be an element of that or maybe more so the negativity that was surrounding this game, but there's no question that people don't have the money they used to as well.

Cake Man wrote: »

Daniels did do well but it is worth mentioning he did cough up some soft frees, got booked and I think his marker (McGrath or Ryan) got a few points from him. Not being critical of the lad, thought he did do well to and fair play to him.

Delighted to have another crack at Tipp or Cork in a Munster final, hopefully to put right the wrongs of last year. Still plenty of room for improvement but we'll enjoy the victory.

I thought he was excellent. Conor McGrath is one of the best young forwards in the country and he took his two scores excellently, and considering the amount of ball he got I thought Daniels did exceptionally well to hold him to that, delighted for him I must say. With Connors and Fives to come back as well, I really like the look of our back line.

KevIRL wrote: »

Final note on the management team, I hope they take Tommy Ryan aside and tell him if he ever finds himself through on goal in injury time with his team leading by 2 points he should take the point on offer not go for goal. Worst case it would mean we couldnt lose.

yea memories of eoin mcgrath v cork 07 quarter final drawn game. through on goal went for a goal, saved by cusack. a point would have drawn the game. as it turned out we got a free to draw the game after but I know exactly what your saying

just watching the sunday game highlights kellys celebration after his goal was pretty ridiculous considering he was rubbish for most of the game. Weve not come to expect anything better but hes not a kid anymore and youd think hed rise above that at this stage. kinda makes us look silly

KevIRL wrote: »

Aye, fair play to Ryan indeed, he took a lot of stick in the league and deserves praise for the recent run of competitve wins. I also feel that due credit and recognition needs to go to Ken and Cullinane for the positive and calming influence they have had on the team.

The management team should come in for particular praise today for their substitutions today, each one of them worked a treat and was well timed also, it made a welcome change from the Davy era when I felt very often he was slow to make a change.

Final note on the management team, I hope they take Tommy Ryan aside and tell him if he ever finds himself through on goal in injury time with his team leading by 2 points he should take the point on offer not go for goal. Worst case it would mean we couldnt lose.

I would not be too harsh on him. Pictures on the Sunday Game in the last few minutes clearly shows that he was well hooked.

redlead wrote: »

Lads have a serious vindictive hatred of this guy and should give him a break. He's been going very well for Passage lately and can hopefully bring that form into the Munster final.

I dunno about that I certainly dont have a vindictive hatred of him, in fact I try to root for him as best I can but when you see him still at that after all these years. Maybe it dosent make much odds but certainly dosent do anyone any favours.

Mullanes reaction with Davy was bizarre. In fairness Mullane has matured a lot in recent years unlike Kelly so maybe that was just banter rather than spite. Never forget Davy &Mullane rolling around the ground hugging and kissing after the AI semi v Tipp 2008!

bruschi wrote: »

not sure why so many of ye are getting so riled up that the 'experts' picked Clare to win. Many others tipped Waterford, and pretty much anyone who was calling this game thought it would be really close. If Clare scored that free at the end, does that make them all right and that Waterford are finished? no, it was a tight game that a lot of people thought could go either way, and thats what happened. Had Waterford came out and hammered Clare you might well say f*ck the media and all the other crap, but it was a tight win that could very very easily have gone the other way. Dont know why all the chip on the shoulder comments have to come out after a good win.

/rant.

It'd be one thing, Bruschi, if this was the first time but time and again we're listening to how Waterford are past it and how they'll get beaten, especially when it comes to Galway. If it annoys us I can only imagine how the players feel given the effort they are putting in. We may not be in Kilkenny's league but the team gets undersold far too often. And I think I heard one person say Waterford would win and that was Sean Moran in the Irish Times. Outside of that nobody was saying they'd win, even if they were saying it would be tight.

redlead wrote: »

I actually thought that Kelly did okay in the first half. He was putting their backs under a lot of pressure which resulted in us winning breaking ball from him. He also showed a bit of guile to win the penalty. This isn't necessarily something to be commended but it is something which Waterford has always lacked. The celebration wouldn't bother me at all, that kind of crap goes on in games all the time. It certainly wasn;t a stellar performance from him but I'm certainly glad he was there to take the penalty. Lads have a serious vindictive hatred of this guy and should give him a break. He's been going very well for Passage lately and can hopefully bring that form into the Munster final.

I don't, thought he was very average, I remember him keeping the ball alive for Shane Walsh's point but that was about it. Again, he was just blessed with penalty. The tv angle wasn't great, but it was as clear as day to me and I was gobsmacked that it was given. There was nothing subtle about it like. As for his reaction, I don't mind celebrating with the crowd but don't get in the players faces as you may yet rue it. I have no hatred of him either, just think he hasn't really shown an awful lot in the last few years and exceptions always seem to have to be made for him when he's around the panel without sufficient evidence to suggest that they should continue to allow that.



On a different note, I have to say I am disappointed with RTÉ. There was no need to go draggin up the footage of Fitzgerald from the sideline, and then typical of them to say people on Twitter asked them to 'investigate'it. Shameful stuff, especially when you consider them picking him up last year during the Limerick match and I can only assume it's intentional.

I think what Fitz said is a sign of what he thinks of the players and I have no sympathy for him for Waterford players celebrating after the match. I also think to much was made of that as while he was near I don't think they were right in front of him. While I have no doubt they wanted him to see how much it meant to them there can't be any complaints because he'd have been doing the exact same if Clare had won.