Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II

baraca wrote: »

You should just rename this thread "the cheap alfa/saab/volvo thread"

Used to be fun to read but i'm getting bored of looking at 156s all day

Who is you?
This thread is only as good as we make it.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3352691
97 318is with test till december for €550

Jaysis, is there no end to the prices going down :eek:

3 decent cars, all with NCT for €300, €500, a very nice to drive BMW for €500?

Saab Ed wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3376441

Super machine

With 6 months tax on it - the car is practically free! :eek:

Long test too :cool:

dahamsta wrote: »

Nonsense -- repairs, fixes and customisations are part of the game. How many bangernomics don't need work during ownership, no matter how long the NCT?

Quite a few I'd say.

The tax in this country ruins the joys of owning a 740. Buy the car for 1,000 eu, tax it for a year and it now stands you €2,600 before you even sit inside it.

it's just a licence to throw away money. That said if you don't drink/smoke/have kids etc. work away.

dahamsta wrote: »

Driving / car ownership is one of my main hobbies, I have no problem throwing money at it when I can. People throw a lot more at a lot stupider.

Pretty much exactly my opinion. I don't smoke, drink a negligible amount and have no kids.

i drink and occasionally smoke, i'm sure i could give up and spend that 30 euro a week on the tax, but i'd rather be out, enjoying my youth. Plenty of time to not drink in a few years.

Anywho, a topic for another thread.

dahamsta wrote: »

I have my car up there, can't se the harm and I actually think they've built out one of the better interfaces, but the fee really has decimated used cars on the site. They're going to have to come up with another strategy if they want to continue accepting car ads.

Agreed, bad form displaying adsense ads in paid for ads too.

166man wrote: »

Yep exactly, I don't drink much or smoke but smoking 40 cigarettes a week costs about 20 quid. If you were to add two pints to that in the local you're looking at €30 a week. Not doing that would pay the road tax for the year on a 740i.


I know what I'd rather spend the money on...:D

€30 on fags and booze a week has sfa to do with paying €1200 a year on tax for a car worth €1000.
If you are tight enough to cut expenditure to the tune of €30 a week, on whatever (not just booze of fags), don't you think that its too much money to pay on tax?
TBH, I'm tired of the "if I give up fags and booze" argument. Its money you wont enjoy - tax.
At least you can enjoy fags and booze (for some) and big engined cars (in other countries) but the tax here is just beyond daft. Its retarded. And, the catch 22 is that if I could afford the tax, i would have a newer, nicer car so the whole bangernomics argument is finely balanced on a financial edge when it comes to a 740 or the likes.
Unfortunately, tax is a real off putting aspect, whether you drink, smoke, hill walk, climb rocks, run marathons or smoke crack.

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3384057

Seicento for buttons. 6 months tax, 1 years NCT. Absolute Bargain!

That is the absolutely best example of bangernomics ever witnessed ever in the history of the universe.

I love his ad, "i have no space need gone" with a picture of a massive driveway.

And a car that you could fit in a shoebox.

166man wrote: »

Well it does actually because I'd have no problem cutting a few pints out of my week in order to have a car I have been dreaming about for years. I don't need alchohol in order to have a laugh but each to their own.

The tax rate might be crazy in this country and you're right it is money you won't enjoy, but as a huge car fan it's money that enables you to enjoy a really special car, that is a 740 or Alfa V6.

I think the point cadilac is making is that go ahead and make cutbacks for the car you want, but to do it merely to tax the car you want is joyless.

166man wrote: »

Well it does actually because I'd have no problem cutting a few pints out of my week in order to have a car I have been dreaming about for years. I don't need alchohol in order to have a laugh but each to their own.

The tax rate might be crazy in this country and you're right it is money you won't enjoy, but as a huge car fan it's money that enables you to enjoy a really special car, that is a 740 or Alfa V6.

granted..but you'd want to be racking up the mileage to get your monies worth.

I done 5000mls in the mr2 last year and it sickens me handing over 660 for this.:mad: Its a total inept system.

RoverJames wrote: »

The tax on a €1200 ish 740i is looney relative to the car's value, €1600+/annum, most folks willing to spend €1600+ on tax would need to earn €3000 to pay that €1600. All well and good saying the car is priced accordingly.

I'm not saying it isn't looney.

Jimdagym wrote: »

I think the point cadilac is making is that go ahead and make cutbacks for the car you want, but to do it merely to tax the car you want is joyless.

Yeah that is fair enough. But if I know that each and every time I go out to my car to go for a spin in it that I'm really going to enjoy it well then I think I'd attempt to suffer the tax bill. The system is a joke though.

I also think that were I going to go to buy a 740i or whatever I'd try and build the tax into the overall price of the car and go from there. Wouldn't seem as bad to me doing it that way.

I dunno I guess I'll have to get a big engined car and see what paying the tax is like in real life, I imagine it's easier said than done tbh.

Ha, was just about to update on my banger.

My brother has tried his best to kill it and it lives on as well as ever.

He did his best to empty the tank. 560 miles done and over 1/3 left on board.

Thats great going and a first vote for Puggernomics

edit2: doh, the above add is a petrol. The 2.0 diesel is the one to go for.

Jimdagym wrote: »

166man wrote: »

Well it does actually because I'd have no problem cutting a few pints out of my week in order to have a car I have been dreaming about for years. I don't need alchohol in order to have a laugh but each to their own.

The tax rate might be crazy in this country and you're right it is money you won't enjoy, but as a huge car fan it's money that enables you to enjoy a really special car, that is a 740 or Alfa V6.

I think the point cadilac is making is that go ahead and make cutbacks for the car you want, but to do it merely to tax the car you want is joyless.

And there in lies the clear line between a true petrol head and someone with an interest in cars.

I'd happily drop money on a nice car, if it means drinking less, grand. Sure that's only fun for about three hours 'till you're locked and you get s hang over, a years tax in a big power car is a year of fun.
No trade off for me.

I'd say around €400 a year, then add taxi fair and paying into clubs it'd easily top €1000.

If I could afford it, I'd happily pay twice that for the pleasure of driving the likes of a 350Z or similar.

(I know tax is higher than €2k on a 350Z but you get the idea. )

RoverJames wrote: »

..... and you'd class yourself as a real petrol head rather than someone with just an interest in cars? Plenty of 350z are less than the 2 thou to tax too btw.

3.5l on the old tax system is the highest bracket, +€2k, no?
To be honest I don't know exactly how much my own costs for the year but that's just it, it could be €300 or it could be €500, it doesn't really matter to me.

I'm not saying I'm more of an enthusiast and someone else isn't, I just feel that if one really want something, they'll find a way to get it and if someone else thinks it's a sad way to be then they clearly don't feel as strongly as the former.

Would you not agree with the last paragraphy at least?