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It's All Kicking Off Again - Fairview Crescent

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    tonyheaney wrote: »
    Didn't do much to save Keyes park did it? They put CCTV t tell the o'malley park yobs "we are watching you dont try coming here" sadly now 25% of the houses are gone.So while it cold catch some one doing something naughty they need a more better solution
    this is wrong that this has happend in Keys park. and Zuroph you are 110 per cent rite what you just said The councillors and Garda have to some thing Fast and save our City. Do we ask them to Please HELP ?dONT THE GET PAID TO DO A JOB someone is not doing there Jobs ?And why are the getting paid ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Have you contacted them and asked?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    So that family still hasn't been evicted... Ridiculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    zuroph wrote: »
    Like evicting the family that has an eviction order on them. Boards isnt the place to be complaining, what have the councillors and gardaí said to you?
    Zuroph the Councillors and Gardai said to me nothing the are Not doing there jobs the only time you see Councillors is when they want your Vote " and i cant understand how the" Gardai have left this people do this to the law abiding citizen of Keys park and Fairview crescent and now Ballynanty ? and now Willie o" dea Wants action. is this some kind of J"oke if it is it is "Not Funny this has to stop now are we to quite limerick city people ? and to just say nothing and leave this Carry on to Continue?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    zuroph wrote: »
    Have you contacted them and asked?
    yes Zuroph i have Gone 100s of times councillors and Garda and the" Never Never ever Keep in touch Our get back to me ? people of limerick city we need rally at limerick city town hall we need HELP WE NEED IDEAS FROM THE VERY GOOD PEPLE ON BOARDS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭adaminho


    According to Live 95fm website they appealed the eviction order and lost. They now have until the 1st of August to leave the estate!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭munstergirl


    Where are the council going to house them next?

    Somewhere with no neighbours in middle of no where. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    On front of leader today, the reason they hadnt moved was due to an appeal. Judge has turned down appeal and deemed the eviction legal, they have til end of month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    zuroph wrote: »
    On front of leader today, the reason they hadnt moved was due to an appeal. Judge has turned down appeal and deemed the eviction legal, they have til end of month.

    are paddy powers giving odds on them still being there next month?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    Todays limerick leader monday 11 july 2011 notorious family order to leave city estate within weeks EVICTION OK SAYS JUDGE .A Limerick family who subjected their niehbours to a campaign of intimidation. forcing some residents to leave their homes in fear. have until the end of the month to pack their bags and leave their council house. An appeal by the family to have a possession order for their house at fairview crescent Garryowen, overturned, was struck out by Judge Petria Mc Donnell at the circuit civil court. Limerick City Couuncil applied for the possession order over concererns that the estate was in Danger of "Turning into a "Ghetto; according to a tenancy enforcement offcer, because of the actions of the family who had Threatened, Harrassed and assaulted their Neighbours, and caused Damage to Property, including houses and cars. Judge McDonnell affirmed the district court order, and told the Family, they have until August 1, to vacate the property. CCTV cameras, linked directly to Henry street Garda station where activity in Fairview Crescent Garryowen will be monitired 24hours a day, will be installed in the estate this week, to ensure there is no further trouble in the three weeks leading up to the family"s enviction. The Judge" decision to throw out the appeal has been described by a councillor as a Warning to other Families engaging in similar behaviour that the council is not afraid of securing their eviction and will pursue them in the courts. "I"ve always said once we get one eviction throug, other people who are also causing mayhem, and there are a small number of families arond the City who are doing this: when they recognise that they can no longer look for the court to allow them to continue as they have been, the"ll change their mand, the"ll change their attitude and they"ll change theeir tune, "said Cllr john Gilligan. "if they don"t, Limerick City Council will have no option but to go after these peple as well, ". When the appliction for a possession order first came before Limerick District Court Last year community Sergeant ,Ollie Kennedy, said the Tenants" Three eldest children wer involved in " The Highest level of Anti_ social behaviour". He said the two younger offenders_ a young teenage bot and girl_ would not have much regard for anyone living in the estate while their mother refuses to acknowledge the problem. The court heard that after one resident who"s child had been assaulted approached the disturbing."women she suggest the children should fight it out and whoever Wins will solve it. Judge Tom O"Donnell said he found her attitude" distubing".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    Coming soon to a House near you .The family from "Hell , from Fairview Crescent Garryowen are your , Worst Nightmare .Castletroy, Raheen Be on the look out there coming soon. to a house near you .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Your posts are excruciating to read.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭mitresize5


    so now its over to the health board to house them ..... they have to because theres minors involved

    ... its there rights see .....

    its a great ****ing country we live in


  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭L.T.P.


    Coming soon to a House near you .The family from "Hell , from Fairview Crescent Garryowen are your , Worst Nightmare .Castletroy, Raheen Be on the look out there coming soon. to a house near you .

    Hopefully you're lives will return to normality once the scum are evicted. Got help the neighbourhoods they move into..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭tonyheaney


    Where are the council going to house them next?

    Somewhere with no neighbours in middle of no where. :)

    how about put them in southill?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    tonyheaney wrote: »
    how about put them in southill?

    I would move them up to Foxrock in Dublin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    L.T.P. wrote: »
    Hopefully you're lives will return to normality once the scum are evicted. Got help the neighbourhoods they move into..
    There is Two families thats the Strange thing not one "We have Two "Families from Hell,.in Fairview Crescent Garryowen. What Happens if this anti_social Tenant Won"t Move out, What Happens then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Noname3


    What Happens if this anti_social Tenant Won"t Move out, What Happens then?
    Assume the Sheriff and the Bailiffs with Corpo officials will turn up (possibly with Gardai also) and remove all belongings and change the locks. effectively locking them out of the house.
    Don't see it coming to that though, Social services will probably relocate them before that date even comes around. after all they can now prove that they are going to be "homeless" with children.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    todays limerick post 16 july 2011 Garryowen Families Celebrate Circuit Court decision. Residents of a City housing estate are "Overjoyed" after a family, who it was claimed terrorised the ,community, lost a circuit court appeal against their eviction. Limerick City Council originally brought the "possession order, against the family in the district court last year, and Limerick Circuit Court upheld the order in recent days. Speaking to the Limerick Post this week, a resident of Fairview Crescent, Garryowen , who wished to remain nameless said: "its" Been a living hell here. The people of the area will be glad to see the back of them. I also hope other Families who are doing similar things will sit up and take notice." According to the source, "up to 20 Families" have left Fairview Crescent Garryowen since it was first built a decade ago. City Council Tenancy officials had issued the Family with several warnings about engaging in anti_social behaviour, before the courts order could be issued. "They were out all hours of the night causing mayhem for all of us. There are elderly and disabled people living here who just want to live in a peaceful estate," the source added. in 2010, there were more than 200 complaints made to the city local authority about the behaviour of the council tenants.
    Garryowen resident and labour councillor, Gerry McLoughlin, accepted there were a lot of problems in Garryowen, but defended the area.
    "I live at Sarsfield Avenue and i wouldn't move for the world.I've fantastic neighbours, it's a great place.Garryowen is one of the largest estates in the city.I know it has been neglected and something needs to be done for people here," Cllr McLoughlin said.
    "the peopkle of Garryowen are entitled to as good a quality of life the same as everywhere else.i'm doing my best for the area but its hard to find money for facilities.Part of the problem is that Garryowen doesn't come under regeneration but, a lot of people living there wouldnt necessarily want that either," he added.
    independent city councilor, John Gilligan, explained that it was a "last resort" to evict anyone from ther home,"but its a necessary option that must be open to us as s local authority".
    He concluded: "some seem have an idea they can continue to be neighbours from hell and thats pretty frightening.People in general have to relise that there has to be consequences for their actions. Too many decent people have been driven out of ther homes and thats not fair either. So, where the council have to enforce eviction orders, I'll support it".


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,757 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    I wonder where this family will go next?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I wonder where this family will go next?

    into a nicer estate and wreck that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    £ 25,OOO , Security camera for Garryowen estate . Todays limerick post 30 july 2011 A Security camera system worth an estimated £25,OOO is expected to be installed in Garryowen housing estate within a month. Gardai will monitor the CCTV system at Fairview Crescent Garryowen after a number of anti _ social behaviour incidents occurred there. Agreement was reached this week between Gardai and the Councill that the Camera will be purchased by Local authority and Monitored at Henry Sreet Garda Station. A pole to carry the camera was erected a few weeks ago, However; The Camera has yet to be installed. "Agreement has been reached as regards Monitoring Protocols.We"re looking at having the Camera installed in around a months time:, a Garda source Confirmed. Two weeks ago , a Family living in the estate falled in its bid to appeal an eviction order at Limerick Circult Court. The Family has until August 1 to vacate the estate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭xi


    Have they left yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭bullets


    "The Camera" as in single camera? not plural

    How the FU^K can a single camera stuck on a pole cost 25,000 Euro!
    its not the Hubble Telescope!

    ~B


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    council crackdown on property evictions
    A LIMERICK woman accused in court of alleged anti-social behaviour is due to be evicted from a propert owned by Limerick City Council,following an order this week by Limerick district court.
    The court heard this wednesday morning that a woman residing in Fairview Crescent, Garryowen was served with a notice to quit the property on september 9,2010, which was done so by hand after an interview with the tenant.
    however, she refused to leave the property and an application for possession of the property was made to the court under Section 62 of the Housing Act the councils solicitor, Gerard Reidy, told the court.
    Oliver O'Loughlin a tenancy enforcement officer with Limerick City Council gave evidence in court, regarding the matter and said decisions regarding evictions are made on a "case by case basil" .
    Solicitor Ted McCarthy, on behalf of his client, queried whether it was "coincidental" that a number of people had been moved on from this estate.
    However, judge Eamon O'Brien disputed this point, saying people were constantly being moved on from different parts of the city.
    The exact nature of the alleged anti- social behaviour was not heard by the court at this stage. Judge O'Brien granted the order, allowing the property for six months, while also allowing the council liberty to re-enter the matter if necessary.
    After the hearing, a CONTINUED ON PAGE 2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    Coucil crackdown on evictions in city
    CONTINUED FROM PAGE 1
    spokesman for Limerick City Council said they cannot comment on specific cases, but said the council affirms its commitment to all communties.
    "Where anti-social behaviour is concerned, we're aware of the rights and responsibillities of individual families and their need for housing.We also aware of the rights and responsibillities of the community, who should be allowedlive in peace. We're aware of our responsibillity as a landlord to do whatever we can within the statutory powers available to us to ensure that the tenancy agreements are met," said the spokesperson.
    earlier this month, at the Circuit Court a family in the same esate were given to the end of this month to pack there bags and leave their council house.
    This family were said to have subjected their neighbours to a campaign of intimidation, and forced same residents to leave their homes in fear.
    Limerick City Council applied for the possession order in this case over concerns that the estate was in danger of 'turning into a ghetto', according to a tenancy enforcement officer, because of the actions of the family who had threatened, harassed and assaulted their neighboure and caused damage to property including houses and cars.
    After that case, CCTV cameras were due to be installed in Fairview Crescent and be monitored 24 hours a day at Henry Street Garda Station to ensure there is no further trouble in the weeks leading up to the family's eviction.
    According to the council'c draft annual report of 2010, over 80 per cent of complaints received by the tenancy enforcement unit have been resolved.
    Mayor of Limerick councillor Jim Long,said evicting an individual or family is often their last resort.
    "It is a long,drawn-out process to Limerick City Council to bring people to court [to evict them],and its a case of more than three strikes you're out.But the amount of evictions that has gotten to the court is very low. Under new legislation, the court has been asked to take a serious look at it, and the net has tightened.There are powers out there for people now if they don't play the game," said mayor Long.
    He added that for some time tenancy agreements between the council and an individual has been seen as "one-sided"with tenants calling on the council to address certain issues. But he said tenants "don't have t"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,288 ✭✭✭source


    bullets wrote: »
    "The Camera" as in single camera? not plural

    How the FU^K can a single camera stuck on a pole cost 25,000 Euro!
    its not the Hubble Telescope!

    ~B

    Hubble cost $2.5bn to construct and launch, slight flaw with your comparison.

    The camera itself will be a good number of thousands, Then there's the cost of wiring it to Henry Street, or fitting some way of sending the pictures over the air. The pole probably cost a couple of thousand, and then you have the cost of labour. For all that €25,000 is pretty okay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭phog


    A Security camera system worth an estimated £25,OOO is expected to be installed in Garryowen housing estate within a month.
    bullets wrote: »
    "The Camera" as in single camera? not plural

    How the FU^K can a single camera stuck on a pole cost 25,000 Euro!
    its not the Hubble Telescope!

    ~B

    It seems it's a security camera system rather than just being "a camera".


  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭xi


    phog wrote: »
    It seems it's a security camera system rather than just being "a camera".

    I guess they are still there :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    bullets wrote: »



    So they robbed the keys, robbed two fireplaces, and there is no mention of them being charged with theft and damage.


    No doubt there new home in the southside of the city is being paid for by the council/HSE/random organisation, so they will be free to cause the same hassles again.


    Delighted for the people who live in that avenue in Garryowen. At least they may get some decent people in their now. Crappy to think that other families were forced from their homes by the vermin beforehand though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Kess73 wrote: »
    So they robbed the keys, robbed two fireplaces, and there is no mention of them being charged with theft and damage.


    No doubt there new home in the southside of the city is being paid for by the council/HSE/random organisation, so they will be free to cause the same hassles again.
    Aside from humanely destroying these scumbags, what can be done to stop this cycle happening again and again? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    Kess73 wrote: »


    No doubt there new home in the southside of the city is being paid for by the council/HSE/random organisation, so they will be free to cause the same hassles again.

    Council won't be anyway, it's in the report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Aside from humanely destroying these scumbags, what can be done to stop this cycle happening again and again? :confused:


    Well I like the destroying option.


    But if crimes have taken place then the adults involved should be in prison and the children put into care as the adults has shown themselves incapable of being parents.

    It is not as though the children could turn out much worse if put into care and the parents lost all rights to those children. As it is those children as just well on their way to becoming total and utter scum with a life of crime and inflicting themselves onto ordinary folk, so them being taking into care and fostered out eventually at least gives them a slight chance of being turned around.

    The legal system in this country is too slow in terms of reaction, and far too lenient in terms of application imho.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,757 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Best bet would be to place the kids in care and try and to get them to function properly. It may be too late for that, and resources are scarce these times obviously.

    Parents have shown they are not responsible adults and cannot/will not bother bringing up children properly. I'd therefore have them deported and sent into exile somewhere horrible.

    Just my 2c worth.


  • Registered Users Posts: 903 ✭✭✭bernardo mac


    If the parents of these children are charged and convicted of theft and malicious damage will they named?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭the_blackstuff


    It is frightening tho that they could be moving in next door to you! Anybody asny ideas where they are going yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    FACES DILEMMA AFTER FORCED TO FLEE HOUSE
    by maria hobbins LIMERICK POST saturday 30th july 2011
    system not fair, says eldery man
    It has emerged that tenants of City Council houses traumatised by terror at the hands of gangs who target their homes and the personal safety are not eligible to go on the housing waiting list again.
    They have no entitlement to be rehoused by the local authority.
    An elderly man who through sheer terror and no falt of his own was driven out of his home on one of the citys most notorious esates, is now barely managing to pay the rent for the private accommodation he secured in another area for months before he finaly fled his quailty of life rapidly deteriorated, and the Limerick Post has seen letters detailing the decline in his mental and physical health that where sent to the housing department in support of his appeal for alternative accommdation.
    Said a relative:"this man raised a family in the house wich he kept in immaculate condition.With is family all grown up and gone he just wanted to live quietly and get on with his life he never thought he be forced out by thugs and now with cuts in pay and reduced hours in his part-time job he is skint after paying the rent
    "The offcial line is that he left his council house of his own accord but thats not the case."
    "this man was driven out through sheer terror for his life and the result that he is being punished for doing so-that is wrong "
    speaking to the Limerick Post the man in question who dooes not wish to be named, said:
    "Where is the justice in rehousing those thugs which cause such misery to the good law abiding tenants in cases where court oders are served and they are rehoused they get rent supplement where is the justice in that they get good accommodation on provate esates -I and others subjected to the same vicious bullying as me are left to suffer the consequences."
    Cllr Pat Kennedy has called to be more hard-nosed with the perpetrators of anti-social behaviour activty, and he has recommended that the Garda commissioner should come to Limerick and see what is happeing here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    FACES DILEMMA AFTER FORCED TO FLEE HOUSE
    by maria hobbins LIMERICK POST saturday 30th july 2011
    system not fair, says eldery man
    It has emerged that tenants of City Council houses traumatised by terror at the hands of gangs who target their homes and the personal safety are not eligible to go on the housing waiting list again.
    They have no entitlement to be rehoused by the local authority.
    An elderly man who through sheer terror and no falt of his own was driven out of his home on one of the citys most notorious esates, is now barely managing to pay the rent for the private accommodation he secured in another area for months before he finaly fled his quailty of life rapidly deteriorated, and the Limerick Post has seen letters detailing the decline in his mental and physical health that where sent to the housing department in support of his appeal for alternative accommdation.
    Said a relative:"this man raised a family in the house wich he kept in immaculate condition.With is family all grown up and gone he just wanted to live quietly and get on with his life he never thought he be forced out by thugs and now with cuts in pay and reduced hours in his part-time job he is skint after paying the rent
    "The offcial line is that he left his council house of his own accord but thats not the case."
    "this man was driven out through sheer terror for his life and the result that he is being punished for doing so-that is wrong "
    speaking to the Limerick Post the man in question who dooes not wish to be named, said:
    "Where is the justice in rehousing those thugs which cause such misery to the good law abiding tenants in cases where court oders are served and they are rehoused they get rent supplement where is the justice in that they get good accommodation on provate esates -I and others subjected to the same vicious bullying as me are left to suffer the consequences."
    Cllr Pat Kennedy has called to be more hard-nosed with the perpetrators of anti-social behaviour activty, and he has recommended that the Garda commissioner should come to Limerick and see what is happeing here.


    The system, at national and at local level, does not give a damn about people like that old man.

    But utter scum can get rehoused pretty easily and convicted rapists can get nice houses in Murroe when they make claims that bigger scumbags are threatening them. Great little country for screwing over ordinary folk in favour of scum criminals and White collar criminals.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    Delighted for the people who live in that avenue in Garryowen. At least they may get some decent people in their now. Crappy to think that other families were forced from their homes by the vermin beforehand though.[/QUOTE]
    This is the thing the famliy from hell in fairview crescent garryowen are just one of the famlies there is two and the other famliy is still living there and has made fairview crescent garryowen into a HELL WHOLE by far the worst anti- social behaviour in Ireland has ever seen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,216 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I have felt for a long time that large urban area dwellers seem to adopt a 'leave it to somebody else' attitude to these low lifes. I know that us country folk faced with the same situation would come together and 'persuade' these type to shall we say-relocate or face the consequences.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Kess73 wrote: »
    The system, at national and at local level, does not give a damn about people like that old man.

    But utter scum can get rehoused pretty easily and convicted rapists can get nice houses in Murroe when they make claims that bigger scumbags are threatening them. Great little country for screwing over ordinary folk in favour of scum criminals and White collar criminals.

    What I don't understand is who voted for this? Who thinks it's a good idea? And if the answer is 'nobody', how the hell did we end up with this situation?? :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    Kess73 wrote: »
    The system, at national and at local level, does not give a damn about people like that old man.

    But utter scum can get rehoused pretty easily and convicted rapists can get nice houses in Murroe when they make claims that bigger scumbags are threatening them. Great little country for screwing over ordinary folk in favour of scum criminals and White collar criminals.
    When is this going to Stop in Limerick City that a "elderly poor old man can live in his home quietly in peace and not be Forced out of his Home by "Thugs this would not happend in "Afghanistan. When is this going to Stop its going on for "Years and "Years in limerick City ? I dont think this going on any where eles in ireland its just a limerick city thing and why is this? Limerick is now anti_social behaviour "Capital of ireland this has to stop now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭xi


    FACES DILEMMA AFTER FORCED TO FLEE HOUSE
    by maria hobbins LIMERICK POST saturday 30th july 2011
    system not fair, says eldery man
    It has emerged that tenants of City Council houses traumatised by terror at the hands of gangs who target their homes and the personal safety are not eligible to go on the housing waiting list again.
    They have no entitlement to be rehoused by the local authority.
    An elderly man who through sheer terror and no falt of his own was driven out of his home on one of the citys most notorious esates, is now barely managing to pay the rent for the private accommodation he secured in another area for months before he finaly fled his quailty of life rapidly deteriorated, and the Limerick Post has seen letters detailing the decline in his mental and physical health that where sent to the housing department in support of his appeal for alternative accommdation.
    Said a relative:"this man raised a family in the house wich he kept in immaculate condition.With is family all grown up and gone he just wanted to live quietly and get on with his life he never thought he be forced out by thugs and now with cuts in pay and reduced hours in his part-time job he is skint after paying the rent
    "The offcial line is that he left his council house of his own accord but thats not the case."
    "this man was driven out through sheer terror for his life and the result that he is being punished for doing so-that is wrong "
    speaking to the Limerick Post the man in question who dooes not wish to be named, said:
    "Where is the justice in rehousing those thugs which cause such misery to the good law abiding tenants in cases where court oders are served and they are rehoused they get rent supplement where is the justice in that they get good accommodation on provate esates -I and others subjected to the same vicious bullying as me are left to suffer the consequences."
    Cllr Pat Kennedy has called to be more hard-nosed with the perpetrators of anti-social behaviour activty, and he has recommended that the Garda commissioner should come to Limerick and see what is happeing here.

    I thought social housing was for people who can not afford Mortgage/Rent this elderly guy clearly can pay his way, I too barely meet my monthly repayments should I feel entitled to somthing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 chief justice 1


    xi wrote: »
    I thought social housing was for people who can not afford Mortgage/Rent this elderly guy clearly can pay his way, I too barely meet my monthly repayments should I feel entitled to somthing.

    this elderly man has just a part-time job what bank gives a mortgage to someone with a part-time job and is elderly?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    this elderly man has just a part-time job what bank gives a mortgage to someone with a part-time job and is elderly?
    Not as many as a few years ago, thank Christ.


  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭xi


    this elderly man has just a part-time job what bank gives a mortgage to someone with a part-time job and is elderly?

    My point was he can pay his way and has no need for social housing, what if we all decided we wanted social housing and spent all our earnings on ourselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭adaminho


    this elderly man has just a part-time job what bank gives a mortgage to someone with a part-time job and is elderly?

    He was in a council house all his life, he moved into rented accomadation because he was hounded out of his house and wasn't entitled to go back on the housing list.


  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭xi


    adaminho wrote: »
    He was in a council house all his life, he moved into rented accomadation because he was hounded out of his house and wasn't entitled to go back on the housing list.

    Listen dont get me wrong what happend to these residents and especially this man was terrible.

    Do you think because he was housed by the council and by extent the tax payer all his life he should be entitled to another house after proving he can afford rent?

    Why did he not move out before the Hounding and let someone else unable to afford rent move in?

    The age of entitlement...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    I have felt for a long time that large urban area dwellers seem to adopt a 'leave it to somebody else' attitude to these low lifes. I know that us country folk faced with the same situation would come together and 'persuade' these type to shall we say-relocate or face the consequences.



    Well the actions, or rather the continued actions of a certain family, who have had regular appearances in the papers, in the Fedamore/Carnane area pretty much says that the same "leave it to somebody else" attitude as you call it is alive and well in the county as well.


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