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Tedious Bickering

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  • #52
    blorg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    It's very simple. When we ignore and don't condemn criminal behaviour by a cyclist, we clearly condone that behaviour. Tim however doesn't condemn criminal behaviour by motorists because
    TimAllen wrote: »
    I do not actively participate in a debate where criminal behaviour is being boasted/condoned or advocated and remain silent on the matter.

    I think droidus nailed it here (I note Tim stopped replying to that line of questioning.)

    Glad to see Tim had a cyclist thread in motors to keep him busy while he was banned from this place.


  • #53
    TimAllen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭TimAllen


    blorg wrote: »
    )

    Glad to see Tim had a cyclist thread in motors to keep him busy while he was banned from this place.
    No I didnt have a thread - this implies that I started the thread. I merely contributed to one. It's flattering (if a bit weird) that you have taken such an interest in my posts on other forum's:p


  • #54
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    TimAllen wrote: »
    I do not actively participate in a debate where criminal behaviour is being boasted/condoned or advocated and remain silent on the matter.

    From
    Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head
    TimAllen wrote: »
    I would say it was the manner in which he was cycling that upset the shooter rather than the fact that he cycles - I wouldnt be surprised if he is a perfect gentleman except when an inconsiderate cyclist annoys him! Ya gotta love the Yanks though!

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=63223774&postcount=12


  • #55
    flickerx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭flickerx


    DontFeedtheTrolls.jpg


  • #56
    poochiem
    Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭poochiem


    Tim - there's a football section on Boards and people are wrong there all the time, you'd enjoy it.


  • #57
    DirkVoodoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,504 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Dirk is tagging in.

    Tim, there are one or two forums on boards that I either don't understand or just annoy me plain and simple. I'm not going to name them, that is against the charter, but I would imagine that everyone has some similar corner of boards that they have stumbled into and quickly exited.

    What I don't understand is why you keep coming back to the cycling forum, when you have no time for anyone here and have now even started labelling it the "crime" forum. I'm pretty sure if I went onto the xbox forum (another one I frequent) and called it "the geek forum", or went to the ladies lounge and called it something derogatory/insulting, there would be obvious consequences.

    Time and again you have shown total inflexibility on your narrow view of what Dublin traffic is actually like. It's not debating. It has been (excellently) pointed out to you in this thread that the "many" incidents of criminality you refer to were actually quite rare when backed up by facts.

    So why, Tim, why do you keep coming back? Part of me thinks that you enjoy the infamy you have here. I mean, I can't see why else you post here. You think we are all law breakers, we're not going to change and it must seem like a losing battle. But then the threads that you rant in get a huge number of hits, post counts go through the roof and Tim is the centre of attention. Going by your other posts, this doesn't really happen anywhere else for you.

    I agree that the only way for this to stop is for everyone to add you to their ignore list. I have grown tired of your posts at this stage, along with a lot of others. I think your 5 minutes of infamy might be coming to an end.


  • #58
    TimAllen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭TimAllen


    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    Dirk is tagging in.

    Tim, there are one or two forums on boards that I either don't understand or just annoy me plain and simple. I'm not going to name them, that is against the charter, but I would imagine that everyone has some similar corner of boards that they have stumbled into and quickly exited.

    What I don't understand is why you keep coming back to the cycling forum, when you have no time for anyone here and have now even started labelling it the "crime" forum. I'm pretty sure if I went onto the xbox forum (another one I frequent) and called it "the geek forum", or went to the ladies lounge and called it something derogatory/insulting, there would be obvious consequences.
    And I mean criminal - not illegal behaviour i.e.
    Ban - violence of any kind and wilful or deliberate destruction or damage to property. I dont mean RLJ and footpath cycling and other relatively minor illegal behaviour

    Time and again you have shown total inflexibility on your narrow view of what Dublin traffic is actually like. It's not debating. It has been (excellently) pointed out to you in this thread that the "many" incidents of criminality you refer to were actually quite rare when backed up by facts.

    So why, Tim, why do you keep coming back? Part of me thinks that you enjoy the infamy you have here. I mean, I can't see why else you post here. You think we are all law breakers, we're not going to change and it must seem like a losing battle. But then the threads that you rant in get a huge number of hits, post counts go through the roof and Tim is the centre of attention. Going by your other posts, this doesn't really happen anywhere else for you.

    I agree that the only way for this to stop is for everyone to add you to their ignore list. I have grown tired of your posts at this stage, along with a lot of others. I think your 5 minutes of infamy might be coming to an end.
    Well if this is the way you and others feel then why not update the charter to ban posts that admit, condone, infer etc criminal behaviour. If its the minority like you say then surely this wouldn't inconvenience or hinder debate? In fact I will have no reason to come on this forum at all if this were the case. What do u think?
    And I mean criminal - not illegal behaviour i.e.
    Ban - violence of any kind and wilful or deliberate destruction or damage to property. I dont mean RLJ and footpath cycling and other relatively minor illegal behaviour


  • #59
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    TimAllen wrote: »
    Well if this is the way you and others feel then why not update the charter to ban posts that admit, condone, infer etc criminal behaviour. If its the minority like you say then surely this wouldn't inconvenience or hinder debate? In fact I will have no reason to come on this forum at all if this were the case. What do u think?
    And I mean criminal - not illegal behaviour i.e.
    Ban - violence of any kind and wilful or deliberate destruction or damage to property. I dont mean RLJ and footpath cycling and other relatively minor illegal behaviour
    so why do you continue to post on other cycling topics if it is only criminal activity you have a problem with?


  • #60
    SleepDoc
    Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭SleepDoc


    Anankastic personality disorder - characterized by at least 3 of the following,

    1. feelings of excessive doubt and caution; -
    2. preoccupation with details, rules, lists, order, organization or schedule;
    3. perfectionism that interferes with task completion;
    4. excessive conscientiousness, scrupulousness, and undue preoccupation with productivity to the exclusion of pleasure and interpersonal relationships;
    5. excessive pedantry and adherence to social conventions;
    6. rigidity and stubbornness;
    7. unreasonable insistence by the patient that others submit to exactly his or her way of doing things, or unreasonable reluctance to allow others to do things;
    8. intrusion of insistent and unwelcome thoughts or impulses

    You need a shrink.


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  • #61
    Nietzschean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭Nietzschean


    TimAllen wrote: »
    In fact I will have no reason to come on this forum at all if this were the case.

    Just wondering, but what is your reason for coming on this form at all? it doesn't seem like you expect to change anyone's mind or anything? just a bit of moral indignation and ranting(i have no particular problem with it if it is, just curious) ?


  • #62
    TimAllen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭TimAllen


    Nietzschean wrote: »
    Just wondering, but what is your reason for coming on this form at all? it doesn't seem like you expect to change anyone's mind or anything? just a bit of moral indignation and ranting(i have no particular problem with it if it is, just curious) ?
    I dont think I rant. The only times I post on this forum is in reply to a post that's already there - I dont start anything. Many feel I post too often on the forum, given that my views appear to be at odds with the apparant majority views held by forum posters. BUT, I generally only comment on posts of criminal nature. So, on that basis there are too many posts on this forum of a criminal nature.
    Simply ban such posts (and delete them as if they were like other objectionable type posts, porn, bestiality etc) and I wouldn't have any cause to highlight such posts. What do you think the chances of the forum taking such a leap of maturity?


  • #63
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    TimAllen wrote: »
    The only times I post on this forum is in reply to a post that's already there - I dont start anything.?

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055755680

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055725063


  • #64
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    TimAllen wrote: »
    BUT, I generally only comment on posts of criminal nature.
    There were no posts of a criminal nature in this thread but you posted.
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055771670


  • #65
    littleknown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭littleknown


    TimAllen wrote: »
    I dont think I rant.
    you do
    TimAllen wrote: »
    BUT, I generally only comment on posts of criminal nature. e

    go to the legal discussion forum


    im sure you are really a nice lad tim but i think if you are only posting to stir up a bit of excitement for yourself its best left alone.:)


  • #66
    TimAllen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭TimAllen


    petethedrummer wrote: »
    There were no posts of a criminal nature in this thread but you posted.
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055771670
    Thats why I used the word "generally" - it wasnt an absolute statement


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  • #67
    TimAllen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭TimAllen


    petethedrummer wrote: »
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055755680

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055725063
    I think you will agree that both threads were positive in nature - I generally dont start threads of a violent nature. I just respond to such posts. Hope that's clear


  • #68
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    TimAllen wrote: »
    Thats why I used the word "generally" - it wasnt an absolute statement
    how about this thread?
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055759227&page=2

    or this thread?
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055754600

    you weren't too condemnin of violence in this thread
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055751159

    no criminality here:
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055727767

    or here:
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055708553&page=2


  • #69
    TimAllen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭TimAllen


    petethedrummer wrote: »
    how about this thread?
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055759227&page=2

    or this thread?
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055754600

    you weren't too condemnin of violence in this thread
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055751159

    no criminality here:
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055727767

    or here:
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055708553&page=2
    ok the "general" thing is lost on you
    Do you understand the difference between commenting on the actions of a 3rd party who is not a poster on Boards e.g. some random guy in the States VERSUS condemning the actions of someone who admits or gloats about violent or criminal behaviour on the cycling forum i.e. the various posters whose posts on the cycling prompt my reponse????


  • #70
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    TimAllen wrote: »
    ok the "general" thing is lost on you
    well You said generally, to me that would imply nearly all the time. But clearly this is not true

    like here
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055696392

    and here
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055650477

    I agree you "sometimes" post on criminal behaviour, but "generally" you post about other things.
    TimAllen wrote: »
    Do you understand the difference between commenting on the actions of a 3rd party who is not a poster on Boards e.g. some random guy in the States VERSUS condemning the actions of someone who admits or gloats about violent or criminal behaviour on the cycling forum i.e. the various posters whose posts on the cycling prompt my reponse????
    I'll grant you that I can see a difference. But you still condoned his behviour and certainly didn't condemn it. Can you see how your comments might be annoying in a cycling forum? or how it could be considered trolling behaviour?


  • #71
    niceonetom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭niceonetom


    I'm very concerned that my silence on the subject thus far might be taken by some as "tacit approval". To remove all doubt I would like to publicly state that I do not approve of TimAllen, tacitly or otherwise. I condemn and denounce his posts, past, present and future.

    I would be grateful if, from now on, the approval (or disapproval) of posters hereabouts was ascertained from their words, not from their silences. This might prevent threads like this in the future, and would actually make sense.

    That is all.


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  • #72
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,351 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    petethedrummer wrote: »
    I well You said generally, the would imply to me all nearly all the time. But clearly this is not true
    First rule of journalism, Pete. Don't let facts get in the way of a good story.


  • #73
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Well thats me done with this. I dont like horse racing and horse riders, I think I'll go and hang around the horse racing forum all day.

    Boards are about to get a subscription fee off me. *shakes fist*


  • #74
    emty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 385 ✭✭emty


    I think he should be burned at the stake....



    .....hmmm....stake......:D


  • #75
    copacetic
    Subscribers Posts: 16,602 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    niceonetom wrote: »
    I'm very concerned that my silence on the subject thus far might be taken by some as "tacit approval". To remove all doubt I would like to publicly state that I do not approve of TimAllen, tacitly or otherwise. I condemn and denounce his posts, past, present and future.

    I would be grateful if, from now on, the approval (or disapproval) of posters hereabouts was ascertained from their words, not from their silences. This might prevent threads like this in the future, and would actually make sense.

    That is all.

    Also having not posted I'm concerned by silence will be taken to approve both of violent attacks on van drivers and Tim Allen.

    I approve of neither, though I can understand the thinking.


  • #76
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Just to put this one to bed. If I saw Tim on the road, I would be prepared to commit a criminal act upon him and if I have to suffer the consequences of that then so be it.
    I am prepared to be a boardsie martyr in the war against Tim.


  • #77
    poochiem
    Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭poochiem


    I'm confused; what am I condoning by not posting? Briefly skimming the threads somebody hit TimAllen with a van and he's now arguing with the horseracing forum on boards, is that right?


  • #78
    CheGuedara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,031 ✭✭✭CheGuedara


    ROK ON wrote: »
    Just to put this one to bed. If I saw Tim on the road, I would be prepared to commit a criminal act upon him and if I have to suffer the consequences of that then so be it.
    I am prepared to be a boardsie martyr in the war against Tim.

    And because anything worth doing is worth doing well and twice I will happily post your bail to allow you to repeat the offense and later provide an airtight alibi for you for both occasions. The legal costs for all those facing such grievous and unfounded accusations of criminality against Tim will be taken care of by a conveniently established charity, ROK ON STRONG.
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    I know there's a recession on and all but due to the high numbers that are likely to require representation (and alibi's) I urge you to donate what you feel you can afford this coming year.


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  • #80
    Captain Havoc
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Captain Havoc


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  • #81
    mockler007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mockler007


    been cycling over extended snow period, really pushing the ignitors to the limits at any given chance, to the extent that as lumen says tempting faith, well i can tell you all these 2.35s make their own grit, as it cut me a path like a russian ice breaker.!! Ice,Snow,Slush
    Doing 30mph on snow on sharp bends to 20 on the ice they didnt budge, they amaze me the more i try to fcuk myself up.
    me and my Dawg D are like a pig in well pig ****e.
    but then again i have real tires
    if you have girls tires you always have to question yourself about riding out, buy a mtb!;)
    And stop asking should i go out on my bike, just go out and try
    if you fall get back up and say oh god yeh!:rolleyes:


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  • #82
    Caroline_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,400 ✭✭✭Caroline_ie


    mockler007 wrote: »
    Doing 30mph on snow on sharp bends to 20 on the ice they didnt budge, they amaze me the more i try to fcuk myself up.
    so you have finally tried wicklow, as this must be going downhill.


  • #83
    mockler007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mockler007


    Caroline_ie wrote: »
    so you have finally tried wicklow, as this must be going downhill.

    Eh no our good owl Dublin roads and pathways, no one is walking on the paths in the evening. 20mph+ is easy to hit with these tires, even over snow!!
    Haven't been to Wicklow since December so i wouldn't know if i could hit those speeds, put it this way i can keep up and sometimes overtake traffic. much to drivers amazement. !!! commuter race caroline??


  • #84
    mockler007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mockler007


    and before anyone says, no the traffic i overtake isn't stopped in a jam.
    and reaching speeds i do isn't down hills!!!:rolleyes::D


  • #85
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Mockler, that "km/h" on your speedo means "Kilometres per hour"


  • #86
    mockler007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mockler007


    seamus wrote: »
    Mockler, that "km/h" on your speedo means "Kilometres per hour"
    eh mate its in mph, as it says mph, its 1mph off as i had a mate in his car run beside me !!!


  • #87
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Caroline would kick your ass easily.


  • #88
    mockler007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mockler007


    I have a choice mph & kmh
    I have mph on it as id be only lien to myself if i put kmh like most of you do to kid yourself's that you are going faster than you really are!!;)


  • #89
    mockler007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mockler007


    el tonto wrote: »
    Caroline would kick your ass easily.

    I very much doubt it tonto.:D
    you 30 somethings are past your sell by dates
    and you have lost the receipt and can't get a refund
    :rolleyes:


  • #90
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    There's a few 40 or 50 somethings on here who'd hand your arse to you as well in a race.


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  • #91
    mockler007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mockler007


    el tonto wrote: »
    There's a few 40 or 50 somethings on here who'd hand your arse to you as well in a race.

    keep dreaming old man !!! ;)


  • #92
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Gonna put your money where your mouth is so?


  • #93
    mockler007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mockler007


    Should start using the owl bus pass !!
    _42555145_pa_bus_pass2.jpg

    Or you guys could always learn hand signals ? like what Tonto is showing us here
    cycling.jpg

    or maybe just use the OAP Cycle lanes
    OldPeopleOnBikes.png


  • #94
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    You gonna race or keep posting pictures?


  • #95
    mockler007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mockler007


    The first 2010 over 30s boards outing.
    aww look at them there arn't they great.
    with their hi vis and their stylish lids
    young and hip,
    speaking of hip, it need to be replaced
    Minister-on-Merri-path-web-.jpg


  • #96
    mockler007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mockler007


    el tonto wrote: »
    You gonna race or keep posting pictures?
    well you keep changing your mind or are you just forgetting who you keep putting forward, have you even asked caroline or have you already forgotten who it is
    :rolleyes:


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  • #97
    Caroline_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,400 ✭✭✭Caroline_ie


    mockler007 wrote: »
    I very much doubt it tonto.:D
    you 30 somethings are past your sell by dates
    and you have lost the receipt and can't get a refund
    :rolleyes:

    then why do you want to race a woman in her 30's.


  • #98
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    That will do, mockler007. You have delighted us long enough.


  • #99
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    I'll race you myself if Caroline isn't old enough for you.


  • #100
    mockler007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mockler007


    Caroline_ie wrote: »
    then why do you want to race a woman in her 30's.
    i never said i wanted to race her, you said it to me. that she would beat me??
    don't tell me your have forgotten already to what you have first said:rolleyes:

    you keep putting other Boardies forward!
    why don't you indeed race me on that chicken chaser you call a bike
    pink slips??


  • #101
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,180 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Right then, Mockler vs Tonto at the next boards hill TT. The gradient should compensate for Mockler's lack of aerodynamics on the MTB.

    Until then, keep it civil or the bad things will happen.


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