United Ireland Poll

rb_ie wrote: »

No no, it's part of the UK now and has been for quite a while.

Do you see why?

Dublin Meath etc were in the Pale when Ulster was leading gaelic resistance accross the entire country . Dublin was the second city of the British empire , under British rule for longer than Ulster has been . Please tell us why people bothered putting a stop to that and fighting against it for centuries ? Sure werent they British after all ? Part of the UK ?

Well, that's life. I'd suggest you stop living in the past. Also, how is it a part of our culture/history? How does the North have any impact on our culture? Absolute bullshít.

which teams keep winning All Irelands ? You prefer westlife and Cecilia Ahern to Seamus Heaney and the Undertones ? Terry Wogan to Stephen Rea ? Introducing draconian censorship for almost 3 decades to prevent anyone on your national airwaves talking about the north except in pro British terms very obviously has a deep effect on your national culture , putting lunatics like Eoghan Harris , Ruth Dudley Edwards , Synon , Myers etc in charge of formulating a modern national outlook and commentary based upon their own lunatic prejudices ..one of complete irrational self hatred towards our country on a daily basis for decades . You imagine an Irish history without Hugh ONeill ? No battle of the yellow ford , no Kinsale , no plantation , no flight of earls , no united Irishmen ? No 1798 . A flag with no orange ? A culture with no cuchullain ?

Makes sense? No it does not. You're living in a dream if you think it'll ever happen that way, without thousands more people dying over it.

The Protestants have as much of a right to that land as those claiming to be "Irish" at the moment.

Nobodys disputing the right of protestants to remain in the territory , what your suggesting is completely false and misleading. Theyve been here for centuries and have every right to be here . That does not mean however that Britian has a right to foment division upon this island for its own territorial ends and to militarily , financially and politically prop up an undemocratic veto of a national minority .

The North doesn't cause us any hassle as is, it really only causes England hassle, and that's the way it should stay.

it does actually . For example under Bertie Aherns administration 70,000 garda files walked out of the department of justice along with all their duplicates never to be seen again with no explanation. Why ? because the files belonged to the Dublin Monaghan bombing investigation when a group of terrorists under British direction and with explosives supplied to them by the British massacred dozens of people and maimed hundreds on the streets of Dublin . Ever since the Irish state has harrassed those victims , your fellow citizens and actively impeded their attempts to get at the truth . This has culminated in an absolute scandal in recent years . In order to cover up what Britian did in Dublin Monaghan and other parts of the 26 counties your police force , political system and system of justice has been completely subverted and contaminated . That affects you , all your fellow citizens , your family and your children . Because that is the contaminated and subverted system you have to live under in order to accomodate a foreign country holding part of your national territory .
A dail committee pointed out that events like Dublin Monaghan could definitely happen again in the future . A police force and politicial system still covering up events from decades ago cannot be trusted to protect the saftey of citizens when a foreign agency on this islands territory are involve d in heinous crimes against this countrys citizens . Furthermore this can only occur with an onside media that wont dlve into it and without doubt the Irish media have maintained a stony silence for deades on this very serious issue , the biggest mass murder in the states history . Including the current scandal of 70,000 files and all duplicates walking from a secure facility 3 years ago .

We as a country don't need the burden/costs that would be incurred by "Uniting" Ireland. There's no benefits to it, oh so a few who were born in a British country

possibly your grandparents and certainly your great grandparents and all who went before them for centuries were born in a British country as you describe it . According to your logic they wrent Irish . Neither was Padraig Pearse , Wolfe Tone , the fenians..god knows who else . Irish people must not have existed until 1922 , and even then they swore allegiance to the British crown .I prefer to regard Ireland as Irish regardless of what the British want .
You live in a Political system that has just given away billions upon billions of euro of your national resources , oil and gas to a British Lord called Tony OReilly and a British company called shell so I dont see what your worries about cost are when you can afford to give away such an abundnce of national wealth for absolutely nothing to British companies . They dont have to pay any tax , they dont have to pay any royalties , the Irish taxpayer picks up the bill for their pipelines . That is what happens when you get rid of the principle of Ireland for the Irish from your politics and bend over backwards to accomodate foreign powrs . You get screwed because you adpt the position of servility and giving into Brtiish demands in your own country .

think they're Irish 'cause it's on the same island might get to actually be Irish,

we are Irish now , and i believe weve more awareness of you as to what being an Irishman entails because we have had to stand up for it . Cow towing to Britian and its demands in our country isnt generally regarded as a positive Irish attribute

but there's a bunch of protestants up there who've as much of a right to the place who'd be extremely píssed off about it.

you seem to be afraid of them , and as I said already nobody is suggesting they have no right to be there . Only that they dont have the right to veto the demcratic wishes of the rest of the people on the island . And many Irish people both sides of the border will become even more pissed off as Britian continues to subvert democracy accross this island by upholding a minority veto . That will lead to trouble without a doubt .

As is, things are working pretty smoothly and should be kept that way

if only it was as simple as you wish it to be . However the depth of ignorance youve displayed in you posts would suggest you dont have much of a clue as to what the real situation is and what is likely to happen .