jetfiremuck wrote: » lets not forget the lack of child care facilities and places for said teachers and their families, and the associated hassle with that. By the way has anyone seen them moving desks etc preparing to reopen. Itll be the same drip drip feed for ffg
ChelseaRentBoy wrote: » No union is going to let their members be put in harms way. If you know anything about the teaching unions you'll know this.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Harms way. Anyone going into work for all of time puts themselves in harms way. Work for everyone has risks and hazards. Honestly at this stage the excuses are embarrassing.
History Queen wrote: » I'm a member of one of the unions. Yes they'll continue to advocate for working conditions in line with public health advice but they won't want their members working from home in conditions that they aren't trained for or competent in (talking in generalities, some teachers may be, I'm certainly not) for any longer than is necessary.
ChelseaRentBoy wrote: » I wouldn't be working in a small room with 30 odd sniffling and couching kids in my job, are you?
ChelseaRentBoy wrote: » Listen everyone wants a return to normal but the unions will put health of their membership before all else of that I am sure. Night all.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Full pay for nothing.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Glad you're finding the whole situation funny. Not surprised though. Its all a joke to people sitting at home on full pay.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » What about people who work on building sites where the risk of death is higher? Or firemen, gardai? Every job has a risk. That's life. Its pathetic. Teachers are gone beyond pathetic at this stage. Full pay for nothing.
timmy_mallet wrote: » Why is it taking so long for a workable plan?
happyday wrote: » The SNA contract does not allow SNAs to supervise a class in place of a teacher. I'd imagine it would be a huge palaver to get that changed. Getting substitute SNAs is very difficult too as there is no centralised method of doing it. It depends on word of mouth and what CVs have been dropped in to the school. Nice to see a mention of the 16,000 SNAs we have in Ireland here though.
Blondini wrote: » I get give or take, it works out at about with expenses 70,000 a year and I pay tax on that, so it’s about a net 40,000 and out of that 40,000 I run a home in Dublin, Castlebar and Brussels. I wanna tell you something, try it sometime… Night.
ChelseaRentBoy wrote: » I'm in no doubt the schools won't be opening in September and early next year will be very optimistic. If schools are back open in March I'd see that as a huge victory.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Young kids are low risk with covid - it is well established. As poorly as Sweden have managed this, they left Schools open for the under 16's and experienced no major cluster associated with schools. Switzerland reopened schools and childcare in May and experienced no major surge. It is one of the lower risk indoor activities that can restart.
lawred2 wrote: » Creches are open, why wouldn't the schools follow? March? Why exactly?
mirrorwall14 wrote: » Crèches max ratio is 1:12. Schools is 1:30. (Headline ratio is lower but includes teachers not in the classroom to make it look better. The majority of classes are of around 30). There’s a big difference. Having said that there is zero reason we cant partially open with social distancing and gradually increase if there are no surges. I’m a teacher and cannot wait to get back. But there needs to be a plan. There also needs to be a plan for what happens if schools get a case etc
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » The creche ratios are not there for infection control though, they have always had lower ratios for safety due to the nature of their younger clientele. The ratios are nothing new and class sizes are not going to be fixed. Practical provisions to minimise risks are needed. Where there's a case in schools then the schools should shut followed by swift testing and contact tracing and premises deep cleaned. Depending on how well the bubbles are being maintained in school, this could mean testing one class or could mean testing the whole school. Either way the whole process should not take any longer than 3-4 days. I would also like to see teachers being tested weekly as asymptomatic cases could be picked up quickly too and again minimise any spread.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » I would also like to see teachers being tested weekly as asymptomatic cases could be picked up quickly too and again minimise any spread.
scrubs33 wrote: » http://https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/schools-and-creches-with-cases-of-covid-19-to-stay-open-39390030.html I cant read the full article as its behind a paywall so not sure how much of a clickbait article it is but is this the start of leaks over the next few days I wonder? The headline is schools and crèches with cases will stay open
Boggles wrote: » Absolute no chance of that happening.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Why not?
lulublue22 wrote: » Can’t access the article either but it could he a case of pods/ classes isolating for a confirmed case as opposed to the entire school closing. Presumably a school would have to close if a cluster developed.
Blondini wrote: » As a teacher, I think the openings should be pushed back until October anyway to compensate for all the extra hard work I did grading the Leaving Cert. I didn't get my full three months holidays this year.
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