stephenjmcd wrote: » Why would I be disappointed?? No need for sarcasm, I was merely pointing out to you that memos don't always equate done deals. Like i said in my reply to you if it gets a clear run and the legal side of it is sorted then it goes through cabinet without issue. Enforcement is another thing altogether.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » "Anti-masker". Get into bed
DevilsHaircut wrote: » It looks like a bit more than a memo, from the reporting. There's an awful lot of 'sarcasm' (and bullying) on the main thread, of which you've become a popular poster among the exiled 'restrictions' thread people. Talking about the difficulties of enforcement when many countries have already mandated and enforced mask wearing in different situations seems to me like you're saying to people 'there's nothing they can do - be grand'. What they can do is fine people as they do for littering, dog **** etc.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » No legislation no masks
stephenjmcd wrote: » Well it was reported as a memo wasn't it so we take that report at face value until it goes before cabinet. Its described as a memo I gave you the process for a memo. Until its reported otherwise its a memo to cabinet for discussion. Thanks for the personal dig there. On the main thread I post facts relating to HSE operations reports amongst other things while also backing up statements with sources and data. Are you accusing me of bullying now ? If so report me no problem, a baseless claim. We aren't other countries, we don't have a dedicated transport police, do you actually think Gardai are going to be on buses ? Like really come on, they're completely over stretched as it is. I'm not saying there's nothing they can't do it'll probably be worked into the public transport bye laws, its who enforces the bye laws ?? Thats going to be the issue here. Unions aren't going to want drivers to be the ones doing it, why would they? Some parts of Dublin are dangerous enough to drive a bus around at night without getting more agro.
DevilsHaircut wrote: » Nope. It's allowing the individual public transport providers to refuse carriage for not wearing one. BTW I think you are really anti-mask after all :rolleyes:
DevilsHaircut wrote: » All the 'restrictions' people are suddenly swarming on the masks thread. They thought that one had been seen off long ago
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Has legislation been passed?
DevilsHaircut wrote: » Funny that you 'restrictions' thread people are all about the law when you seem to be generally anti any Covid laws that have been introduced and pointing out loopholes.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Laws cant be brought in without a bill being proposed, debated ,agreed upon and then signed off by the president. That's actually how it works. I'm asking has legislation been implemented. You've called me an "anti masker" and a "restrictions person ". We are operating in different spaces.
DevilsHaircut wrote: » There's an awful lot of 'sarcasm' (and bullying) on the main thread, of which you've become a popular poster among the exiled 'restrictions' thread people.
DevilsHaircut wrote: » No. They've been strongly advising masks on public transport/in shops for c. 6 weeks. The fact that the Irish public have ignored to them is a legal/behavioural matter, not a public health one that they need to involve themselves in.
DevilsHaircut wrote: » I didn't. You still haven't answered the question I asked about whether you were always pro or anti mask and your posts strongly indicate that you were always anti. Your response of 'We are operating in different spaces' is a classic deflection technique that must have been taught in the 'restrictions' thread (maybe by plumbthedepths, who has been banned and since unfortunately migrated to the main thread). The technique unfortunately used by governments as well.
NotMOL wrote: » Most people are not scumbags so they will wear a face covering if it is made mandatory, especially if people are told that wearing the mask helps prevent someone spreading it to a vulnerable person. Of course there will be the few rebels and scumbags who will try to break the rule but the vast majority of people are mature enough to understand.
stephenjmcd wrote: » I'm saying its a measure that should have been looked at ages ago. Seems to be an Irish thing that we look at things months later when the horse has already bolted.
Haylee Cuddly Stitch wrote: » One other person in Supermarket tonight with a mask. People don’t care.
stephenjmcd wrote: » in terms of Dublin bus its full weekday service with 17 passengers on a double decker bus.
weldoninhio wrote: » The reality is far different from that. Most buses at rush hour were 50/75% full. Yet no clusters.
stephenjmcd wrote: » Oh I agree. I've been on services this week with 30+ on board
weldoninhio wrote: » Mask are not, and will not be, mandatory. Suck it up buttercup.
weldoninhio wrote: » If it becomes mandatory I’ll be taking a 1 use mask from work and wearing it until a) wearing it is lifted or b) it’s absolutely threadbare. Then I’ll get another one and start again. Absolutely pointless.
Boggles wrote: » Okay Buttercup.
Away With The Fairies wrote: » The mask isn't for you, so why can't you wear mask for others? Other people can wear a mask to protect you.
kaahooters wrote: » people not wearing face masks is the visual repesnetation of the people who refuse to vaccinate.
weldoninhio wrote: » I've no need for other people to wear a mask for me.
Away With The Fairies wrote: » That's fine if you don't want anyone to wear a mask protect you, people are wearing masks to not just protect you but others around them. But let's discuss your selfishness on why you don't want to protect others, those that are vulnerable and are more at risk of dying from this.
