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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #4142
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Arghus wrote: »
    A bit daft how they report the case numbers to be honest
    This was a "missed" block from a hospital. Some of it is way back to March.


  • #4143
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    What a mess. Did this one hospital also fail to report on the causes of any deaths? How could that even happen?


  • #4144
    xabi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭xabi


    Gael23 wrote: »
    A big number today then say because of that restrictions can’t be eased on May 18th

    Nonsense


  • #4145
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    How can they miss a hospital not reporting numbers for weeks? Surely someone sees that there are numbers missing. Very amateurish


  • #4146
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Surely an investigation has to be launched into this hospital. Failure to report back as far as March? That's unacceptable.


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  • #4147
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Seamai wrote: »
    So today's figure excluding that backlog is about 140, did I hear correct?
    Under 200 anyway.


  • #4148
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Did anyone mention 10 people died


  • #4149
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    JP100 wrote: »
    A lot of people will not dig down and just see the 426 headline figure.

    I think that's the point, keep up the fear.


  • #4150
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,160 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    is_that_so wrote: »
    This was a "missed" block from a hospital. Some of it is way back to March.

    Yes, I've heard that.

    But still though, you'd question a little the overall reliability of their data.


  • #4151
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Gael23 wrote: »
    A big number today then say because of that restrictions can’t be eased on May 18th

    As one Deise to another can I say how I'm not angry, I'm disappointed.

    The've already told us what happened and said it reflects nothing other than a failure in that hospital reporting cases. But obviously that isn't good enough for the tinfoil hat brigade is it?


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  • #4152
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,335 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Apparently they are about two weeks ahead of where their own modelling suggested (which is good news).


  • #4153
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Did anyone mention 10 people died

    Lost in the overreaction to 426 cases being announced. "See, I just knew they would do this to me for spite..."


  • #4154
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Some hospital is after making a balls. A massive balls.

    Indeed, it wont do much to instill a lot of confidence in anyone who is nervous about going to a hospital for tests or procedures.


  • #4155
    mean gene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    Mike Ryan WHO hasn't said 1 optimistic thing since this thing started grain of salt everything this pessimistic chap says


  • #4156
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    The models and graphs used to brief nphet are based on rolling 5 - 7 day averages and the dates tests occur and deaths occurred , not the day they are confirmed and notified to the media.

    Cool the bloody jets.


  • #4157
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,160 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    There could be a few ruffled feathers this evening. The media will smell blood over that letter from the HSE.


  • #4158
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    ek motor wrote: »
    r0 is now estimated to be 0.4 to 0.6

    We aren't doing enough testing to accurately establish what the R0 is.

    Those figures can't be accurate with the level of testing that we are doing.


  • #4159
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    This letter thing was weeks ago, really no drama.


  • #4160
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Surely an investigation has to be launched into this hospital. Failure to report back as far as March? That's unacceptable.

    I posted the other day that on a radio interview a member of the hse stated that some repointing of cases were been reported by snail-mail.
    Not a surprise to hear of unreported case's or slow reporting


  • #4161
    mean gene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Did anyone muention 10 people died

    Rip

    The rip regulars looking for thumbs up must be offline


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  • #4162
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,111 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    We aren't doing enough testing to accurately establish what the R0 is.

    Those figures can't be accurate with the level of testing that we are doing.

    Level of testing? We are testing a greater percentage of the population than almost every other country.


  • #4163
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    We aren't doing enough testing to accurately establish what the R0 is.

    Those figures can't be accurate with the level of testing that we are doing.

    'Estimated' not exact


  • #4164
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    We aren't doing enough testing to accurately establish what the R0 is.

    Those figures can't be accurate with the level of testing that we are doing.
    We have one of the highest testing percentages in the world.


  • #4165
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    mean gene wrote: »
    Mike Ryan WHO hasn't said 1 optimistic thing since this thing started grain of salt everything this pessimistic chap says

    His job is to be realistic/prepare for the worst. I'd prefer than than blind optimism.


  • #4166
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,335 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    We have one of the highest testing percentages in the world.

    Second highest in Europe I think behind Portugal.


  • #4167
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    mean gene wrote: »
    Mike Ryan WHO hasn't said 1 optimistic thing since this thing started grain of salt everything this pessimistic chap says

    WHO top brass have been basically useless from the off. Dr. Maria Kerkhove is the only one I'd have any faith in.


  • #4168
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    90% test turnaround in 3 days is the target.


  • #4169
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Best way to check the daily numbers is through the dashboard - increases there would support the lower number of 140.


  • #4170
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I think that "delayed/missed" reporting highlights just how chaotic things were in the early days (and that is extensively evidenced in the early threads here). I would guess that in the hospital it was a case that everyone thought someone else was responsible. At the centre they were rushing to make sense of all the numbers they were getting. Repeatedly in the daily briefings it was clear there were gaps and inconsistencies in the ways figures were being reported.

    I'm a lot happier now, but they were a bit like rabbits being caught in the headlights when this all kicked off


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  • #4171
    kwestfan08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    So curve flattened then? Let's get the country up and running ta feck


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