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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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Continuation of the "Relaxation of restrictions" from here.

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[Deleted User]

pjohnson wrote: »

Look at the amount of fitness enthusiasts that emerged when told to stay in at the start of this. We must be the slimmest and fittest nation in Europe!

This really is the hottest of takes. Like if you thought about this for about 8 seconds it would be pretty obvious why you are seeing more people running and cycling.

Gyms are closed
Sports are off, so that's not training and no matches. Do you realise how many people in this country play sports? You are taking them out of that and most will replace it with going for a run. Of course there will be more people running in parks and cyclying.

hopalongcass

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Who other than the NZ prime minister is laughing at us or has made any derogatory comments over the restrictions measures?

The banks are definitely laughing at us,again,simply its a case of how much is the population willing to take.The countries exiting are feeling the pulse of the nation online and are only willing to milk it as long as the population believes this rubbish.

Sadly as proved in the last financial crisis,the hangover of being a subjugated British colony still hangs over us,we are meek unpatriotic pushovers on the world stage and are always the laughing stock of the western world with weak timid leaders who are always the first to hang their own people out to dry.

And as long as we have shills like you convincing the people that this is warranted and we have a naive unpatriotic population that fall for it,it will continue until there is enough of us saying enough is enough.Reality is even if the death rate was 20 times what it is now it still would not warrant destroying the economy and taking on this kind of debt.People of all ages would want to be dropping dead all around us on the street to warrant what is happening right now.

mille100piedi

Penfailed wrote: »

I'd imagine that post was tongue in cheek. I read it like that anyway.

the website is not important, there are tons of source in italian but I don't think you speak italian?so I found a source in english.It is not important what is written but you can clearly see police and three doctors with a with uniform around him.

Penfailed

mille100piedi wrote: »

you are free to not agree with gemma but if you think it is right that the police sedate everyone that doesn't agree with you it is scaring.

I'd imagine that post was tongue in cheek. I read it like that anyway.

mille100piedi

gmisk wrote: »

That website is errr....interesting.....

Id love to see Gemtrails sedated here....that shrieking voice would wreck your head

regarding the website, I don't know it, but I guess you don't speak italian so I can't post any other source in italian language? it is not important the website but what is happening in the video...

mille100piedi

gmisk wrote: »

That website is errr....interesting.....

Id love to see Gemtrails sedated here....that shrieking voice would wreck your head

you are free to not agree with gemma but if you think it is right that the police sedate everyone that doesn't agree with you it is scaring.

road_high

Deleted User wrote: »

Traffic back to normal pre lockdown levels where I am today, (west of Ireland town).

Doubt it really is. No schools, shops, businesses etc open unless "essential"

Cork Boy 53

Deleted User wrote: »

The only people that are really at risk from Covid 19 are the over 65's. We should be cocooning the hell out of those people. Instead we feel bad for them so encourage them to come out and walk at peak hours. (Lunch time) Terrible advice considering over 90% of deaths in that catergory.

Meanwhile, the countries economy falls apart while everyone at very low risk sits at home.

We've made a right mess of this and its no wonder other countries are laughing at us.

Who other than the NZ prime minister is laughing at us or has made any derogatory comments over the restrictions measures?

JP100

mille100piedi wrote: »

now in italy police are sedating people that are against this crazy rules!

https://fromrome.info/2020/05/02/agrigento-citizen-decrying-fake-pandemic-on-megaphone-forcibly-sedated-by-police-in-the-street/

Don't be giving folk, ideas! ðŸ˜‚

partyguinness

Deleted User wrote: »

Traffic back to normal pre lockdown levels where I am today, (west of Ireland town).

Have the donkeys put on much weight?

gozunda

easypazz wrote: »

He thinks half of deaths in Ireland due to COVID are people under 70.He gets hung up on Stockholm because its not a country.He won't understand a lot of what you are saying.

Ok that's just talking rubbish there again. Your comments would come across a bit better if you could actually stand over what you are saying than making up bull****e tbh.

Such as bizarely making it up that I said "half of deaths in Ireland due to COVID are people under 70."?

Not even close to what was stated.

the issue of Covid-19 is not only with the over 70s and those in care homes. Only half the current deaths can be attributed to this cohort.

That referred to to all types of care home not just homes for the elderly btw. Yoh also quoted out of context. But hey what's new eh?

Every time someone mentions 'Sweden' you go on about your pet theory of 'herd immunity and stockholm as if it is a comparable country. There only one banging on about Stockholm and herd immunity in comparison to various countries is yourself.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113338045

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113349142

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113358188

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113358673

I personally think you are now just posting for the **** and giggles at this point tbh.

SSeanSS

Deleted User wrote: »

Traffic back to normal pre lockdown levels where I am today, (west of Ireland town).

barely any traffic so:pac:

[Deleted User]

partyguinness wrote: »

I sincerely hope the Gov is not as foolhardy enough to wait until it is 100% gone before 'opening up'.

It is not going to disappear any time soon and vaccines take around 18mts to perfect at the best of times (accordingly my microbiologist scientist buddy who works with a large pharmaceutical company).

I suppose if every other country does open up then Ireland's hand will be forced.

You'd swear none of you had seen the plan that has been published to open up over the next 3 months, and which will be revised as we work through it

[Deleted User]

Traffic back to normal pre lockdown levels where I am today, (west of Ireland town).

Ginger n Lemon

castletownman wrote: »

Three cars were destroyed and 70K worth of damage done to a separate property in Gorey over the weekend, by a fella who was temporarily released from prison due to fears of Covid-19 spreading in the prison system.

Yet, they don't seem to have taken any measures to protect the elderly in residential care settings. It's a national scandal.

Now you make me scared of stepping outside of my door. never mind covid with its 0.3% mortality.

stephenjmcd

Mad_maxx wrote: »

would not cost be a thought getting on a flight today , ive two kids under four and a fiance , we would happily take a holiday if there was anywhere to go to which wasnt locked down

Likewise I'll get on a flight and go somewhere if its open.
Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I'd rather live my life than waste it living in fear

hopalongcass

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Sorry sorry sorry sorry, Leo's plan is saying its fine for people who cocoon to go out and get a bit of exercise/sun while maintaining social distancing.

County council takes that then and allocates park times to over 70s only.

Now we can't go to the park for 2 or 3 hours a day.

Who initiated this?

I am not saying that you wont get your vitamin D, you get good bit of it if exposed to sun for 15 mins or more.

Just to get it straight, if there is a deadly disease out there which kills 90% + of over 70s, I do not believe that we should allow over 70s to walk on the streets or in parks. You can not expect compliance of strict measures from young millions of people of the population, people have house parties for crying out. Surely you agree?

I think the park idea and times for shopping for different groups is ridiculous,i think the whole thing is if i am honest,but its not killing 90% of any demographic but even if it was we have no right to force any age group to Cocoon.

Its their choice as it should be everyones choice,we all know the age and health status of our families at home and its each family to make their own decisions and protect themselves accordingly.

partyguinness

castletownman wrote: »

Three cars were destroyed and 70K worth of damage done to a separate property in Gorey over the weekend, by a fella who was temporarily released from prison due to fears of Covid-19 spreading in the prison system.

Yet, they don't seem to have taken any measures to protect the elderly in residential care settings. It's a national scandal.

Sounds like he wants to return to prison. No pubs no hookers no sport. What's the point.

Penfailed

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

We all also make a lot of valid points. Like the one below, btw do you agree on the that point? You havent contributed lately

Just to get it straight, if there is a deadly disease out there which kills 90% + of over 70s, I do not believe that we should allow over 70s to walk on the streets or in parks. You can not expect compliance of strict measures from young millions of people of the population, people have house parties for crying out. Surely you agree?

I disagree. I think over 70s should get some fresh air and exercise where possible.

castletownman

Three cars were destroyed and 70K worth of damage done to a separate property in Gorey over the weekend, by a fella who was temporarily released from prison due to fears of Covid-19 spreading in the prison system.

Yet, they don't seem to have taken any measures to protect the elderly in residential care settings. It's a national scandal.

[Deleted User]

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

This is very worrying, because most cases that have severe covid19 infections all have vitamin D deficiency. Getting to that stage where government is dictating who gets vitamin D and who does not?

Does any other country do this nonsense? thats what i wonder. I havent heard of any country having 2km 5km 20km craziness, now you can go to a park and I cant because i am not a certain age? NPHET has lost the plot

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Sorry sorry sorry sorry, Leo's plan is saying its fine for people who cocoon to go out and get a bit of exercise/sun while maintaining social distancing.

County council takes that then and allocates park times to over 70s only.

Now we can't go to the park for 2 or 3 hours a day.

Who initiated this?

I am not saying that you wont get your vitamin D, you get good bit of it if exposed to sun for 15 mins or more.

Just to get it straight, if there is a deadly disease out there which kills 90% + of over 70s, I do not believe that we should allow over 70s to walk on the streets or in parks. You can not expect compliance of strict measures from young millions of people of the population, people have house parties for crying out. Surely you agree?

No comment

easypazz

gozunda wrote: »

Are you being deliberatly obtuse or just posting for the crack?

You do know that not all care homes cater for the elderly yeah? That many of those over 70 live also live in their own homes yeah? Trouble seems to be you only read the bits you want ...

Not being obtuse at all, I will remind you of what you said exactly, regarding deaths.

gozunda wrote: »

the issue of Covid-19 is not only with the over 70s and those in care homes. Only half the current deaths can be attributed to this cohort.

You are saying that only half the deaths are from these categories.

Simply untrue.

Ginger n Lemon

Penfailed wrote: »

That's okay. We all make mistakes.

We all also make a lot of valid points. Like the one below, btw do you agree on the that point? You havent contributed lately

Just to get it straight, if there is a deadly disease out there which kills 90% + of over 70s, I do not believe that we should allow over 70s to walk on the streets or in parks. You can not expect compliance of strict measures from young millions of people of the population, people have house parties for crying out. Surely you agree?

Penfailed

JP100 wrote: »

They'll probably be very little options in terms of a holiday from now until the end of summer.

I dunno. I'd say that there will be some very cheap holidays to be had in July or August at the rate other countries are opening up.

partyguinness

I sincerely hope the Gov is not as foolhardy enough to wait until it is 100% gone before 'opening up'.

It is not going to disappear any time soon and vaccines take around 18mts to perfect at the best of times (accordingly my microbiologist scientist buddy who works with a large pharmaceutical company).

I suppose if every other country does open up then Ireland's hand will be forced.

Penfailed

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Sorry sorry sorry sorry

That's okay. We all make mistakes.

[Deleted User]

mille100piedi wrote: »

I am disabled with a muscle genetic disorder and the park beside my home is the only place I go for a walk, but parks are for everybody and nobody can be stopped to go to the park at any time.

And nobody is being stopped, they are just being asked to consider going at a different time if they can

[Deleted User]

Mad_maxx wrote: »

absolutely , the over 65,s should be cocooned indefinately , structured recreation within strict parameters can be arranged until we are over this

there will be a new normal for vulnerable demographics , it doesnt matter if the government chicken out for a few months more ,eventually things will be forced to reopen but many will still be vulnerable and they must take responsibility for themselves

Things are reopening over the next few months and much faster than many on here anticipated

gozunda

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

You are very pessimistic. And you offer 0 solutions. I dont know what else to tell you, apart from the fact that you dont have a single peer reviewed scientific published research to back up your pessimism.

Lol. You making daft claims about"herd immunity" does not equate with 'solutions' '. Pointing that out is not 'pessimism'. It's simply reality.

Ginger n Lemon

News just in - horse racing in Hannover (Germany) back in action tomorrow.

at least some entertainment.