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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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Continuation of the "Relaxation of restrictions" from here.

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[Deleted User]

Traffic back to normal pre lockdown levels where I am today, (west of Ireland town).

[Deleted User]

partyguinness wrote: »

I sincerely hope the Gov is not as foolhardy enough to wait until it is 100% gone before 'opening up'.

It is not going to disappear any time soon and vaccines take around 18mts to perfect at the best of times (accordingly my microbiologist scientist buddy who works with a large pharmaceutical company).

I suppose if every other country does open up then Ireland's hand will be forced.

You'd swear none of you had seen the plan that has been published to open up over the next 3 months, and which will be revised as we work through it

SSeanSS

Deleted User wrote: »

Traffic back to normal pre lockdown levels where I am today, (west of Ireland town).

barely any traffic so:pac:

gozunda

easypazz wrote: »

He thinks half of deaths in Ireland due to COVID are people under 70.He gets hung up on Stockholm because its not a country.He won't understand a lot of what you are saying.

Ok that's just talking rubbish there again. Your comments would come across a bit better if you could actually stand over what you are saying than making up bull****e tbh.

Such as bizarely making it up that I said "half of deaths in Ireland due to COVID are people under 70."?

Not even close to what was stated.

the issue of Covid-19 is not only with the over 70s and those in care homes. Only half the current deaths can be attributed to this cohort.

That referred to to all types of care home not just homes for the elderly btw. Yoh also quoted out of context. But hey what's new eh?

Every time someone mentions 'Sweden' you go on about your pet theory of 'herd immunity and stockholm as if it is a comparable country. There only one banging on about Stockholm and herd immunity in comparison to various countries is yourself.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113338045

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113349142

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113358188

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113358673

I personally think you are now just posting for the **** and giggles at this point tbh.

partyguinness

Deleted User wrote: »

Traffic back to normal pre lockdown levels where I am today, (west of Ireland town).

Have the donkeys put on much weight?

JP100

mille100piedi wrote: »

now in italy police are sedating people that are against this crazy rules!

https://fromrome.info/2020/05/02/agrigento-citizen-decrying-fake-pandemic-on-megaphone-forcibly-sedated-by-police-in-the-street/

Don't be giving folk, ideas! ðŸ˜‚

Cork Boy 53

Deleted User wrote: »

The only people that are really at risk from Covid 19 are the over 65's. We should be cocooning the hell out of those people. Instead we feel bad for them so encourage them to come out and walk at peak hours. (Lunch time) Terrible advice considering over 90% of deaths in that catergory.

Meanwhile, the countries economy falls apart while everyone at very low risk sits at home.

We've made a right mess of this and its no wonder other countries are laughing at us.

Who other than the NZ prime minister is laughing at us or has made any derogatory comments over the restrictions measures?

road_high

Deleted User wrote: »

Traffic back to normal pre lockdown levels where I am today, (west of Ireland town).

Doubt it really is. No schools, shops, businesses etc open unless "essential"

mille100piedi

gmisk wrote: »

That website is errr....interesting.....

Id love to see Gemtrails sedated here....that shrieking voice would wreck your head

you are free to not agree with gemma but if you think it is right that the police sedate everyone that doesn't agree with you it is scaring.

mille100piedi

gmisk wrote: »

That website is errr....interesting.....

Id love to see Gemtrails sedated here....that shrieking voice would wreck your head

regarding the website, I don't know it, but I guess you don't speak italian so I can't post any other source in italian language? it is not important the website but what is happening in the video...

Penfailed

mille100piedi wrote: »

you are free to not agree with gemma but if you think it is right that the police sedate everyone that doesn't agree with you it is scaring.

I'd imagine that post was tongue in cheek. I read it like that anyway.

mille100piedi

Penfailed wrote: »

I'd imagine that post was tongue in cheek. I read it like that anyway.

the website is not important, there are tons of source in italian but I don't think you speak italian?so I found a source in english.It is not important what is written but you can clearly see police and three doctors with a with uniform around him.

hopalongcass

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Who other than the NZ prime minister is laughing at us or has made any derogatory comments over the restrictions measures?

The banks are definitely laughing at us,again,simply its a case of how much is the population willing to take.The countries exiting are feeling the pulse of the nation online and are only willing to milk it as long as the population believes this rubbish.

Sadly as proved in the last financial crisis,the hangover of being a subjugated British colony still hangs over us,we are meek unpatriotic pushovers on the world stage and are always the laughing stock of the western world with weak timid leaders who are always the first to hang their own people out to dry.

And as long as we have shills like you convincing the people that this is warranted and we have a naive unpatriotic population that fall for it,it will continue until there is enough of us saying enough is enough.Reality is even if the death rate was 20 times what it is now it still would not warrant destroying the economy and taking on this kind of debt.People of all ages would want to be dropping dead all around us on the street to warrant what is happening right now.

[Deleted User]

pjohnson wrote: »

Look at the amount of fitness enthusiasts that emerged when told to stay in at the start of this. We must be the slimmest and fittest nation in Europe!

This really is the hottest of takes. Like if you thought about this for about 8 seconds it would be pretty obvious why you are seeing more people running and cycling.

Gyms are closed
Sports are off, so that's not training and no matches. Do you realise how many people in this country play sports? You are taking them out of that and most will replace it with going for a run. Of course there will be more people running in parks and cyclying.

Ginger n Lemon

mille100piedi wrote: »

the website is not important, there are tons of source in italian but I don't think you speak italian?so I found a source in english.It is not important what is written but you can clearly see police and three doctors with a with uniform around him.

Mussolini regime but with doctors. What have we done to our world

gozunda

Mad_maxx wrote: »

the older demographic are far richer globally and far more powerful politically , as another poster stated earlier

the government over ruled the HSE with regards when the over seventies could get out for exercise , they were fine with kids being bunkered this past two months

Wtf? So all older people regardless of their circumstance are 'far richer' and more 'powerful politically'?

What do you base such nonsense on?

Older people may indeed have worked all their lives to provide some security in old age They may even have managed to buy a house paid for over many decades. Something younger generations will have to do as well. No one gets it handed to them no matter how much they might want that or bs about older people having it all.

And no Kids were not "bunkered" for two months. Kids could go out and exercise with their parents etc and where possible play in their garden etc. They still can.

TheCitizen

Penfailed wrote: »

Is anywhere in the world locking down until there's a vaccine? I haven't heard of anywhere trying that approach.

Won’t stop posters like that one you quoted saying it

Cork Boy 53

hopalongcass wrote: »

The banks are definitely laughing at us,again,simply its a case of how much is the population willing to take.The countries exiting are feeling the pulse of the nation online and are only willing to milk it as long as the population believes this rubbish.

Sadly as proved in the last financial crisis,the hangover of being a subjugated British colony still hangs over us,we are meek unpatriotic pushovers on the world stage and are always the laughing stock of the western world with weak timid leaders who are always the first to hang their own people out to dry.

And as long as we have shills like you convincing the people that this is warranted and we have a naive unpatriotic population that fall for it,it will continue until there is enough of us saying enough is enough.Reality is even if the death rate was 20 times what it is now it still would not warrant destroying the economy and taking on this kind of debt.People of all ages would want to be dropping dead all around us on the street to warrant what is happening right now.

And after posting all that rambling ranting nonsense you have the audacity to call me a shill. The mind boggles.

Quantum Erasure

Deleted User wrote: »

The only people that are really at risk from Covid 19 are the over 65's. We should be cocooning the hell out of those people. Instead we feel bad for them so encourage them to come out and walk at peak hours. (Lunch time) Terrible advice considering over 90% of deaths in that catergory.

Meanwhile, the countries economy falls apart while everyone at very low risk sits at home..

https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/geezgj/1544_year_olds_up_to_40_more_likely_to_die_in/

uli84

Keeping kids out of school environment for 6 months non-stop is total madness (yes i know they’d be off jul-aug anyways)

I’ve been looking at Portugal as they went through all this at similar time as Ireland and I think their approach of opening secondary schools mid-May and Primary in June is very reasonable and something i was personally hoping for in here.

My neighbours’ kid cried when told she wouldn’t be going back before September, I cannot even imagine the situation of kids where there are issues in the household

robinph

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/geezgj/1544_year_olds_up_to_40_more_likely_to_die_in/

I'm guessing you just looked at the headline and the scary chart, but didn't read any of the comments or understand the numbers behind the chart?

MOH

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Just to get it straight, if there is a deadly disease out there which kills 90% + of over 70s, I do not believe that we should allow over 70s to walk on the streets or in parks. You can not expect compliance of strict measures from young millions of people of the population, people have house parties for crying out. Surely you agree?

One thing I've decided from a lot of the attitude to Covid-19 is, to hell with the environment.

I'm not in a high-risk bracket, but I can understand why restrictions are necessary.

But there seems to be tons of younger people whose attitude is since they're not high risk for the disease, why should they be restricted?

By that logic, I'm probably going to be dead before the effects of climate change get really bad. So why should I bother doing anything that's primarily going to benefit other people?

LiquidZeb

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/geezgj/1544_year_olds_up_to_40_more_likely_to_die_in/

You do realize the odds of that age group dying annually are one in 55,000 even the people in the comments section are rubbishing it.

[Deleted User]

hopalongcass wrote: »

The banks are definitely laughing at us,again,simply its a case of how much is the population willing to take.The countries exiting are feeling the pulse of the nation online and are only willing to milk it as long as the population believes this rubbish.

Sadly as proved in the last financial crisis,the hangover of being a subjugated British colony still hangs over us,we are meek unpatriotic pushovers on the world stage and are always the laughing stock of the western world with weak timid leaders who are always the first to hang their own people out to dry.

And as long as we have shills like you convincing the people that this is warranted and we have a naive unpatriotic population that fall for it,it will continue until there is enough of us saying enough is enough.Reality is even if the death rate was 20 times what it is now it still would not warrant destroying the economy and taking on this kind of debt.People of all ages would want to be dropping dead all around us on the street to warrant what is happening right now.

Sure the banks love it when economic activity grinds to a halt.

But but but the banks...but but but the goberment...but but but sheeple.

Virtually every-f**ng-where else is doing it do ye nutters. You can argue the rights and wrongs of the policy, but Ireland is not alone in what is being done, far from it

LiquidZeb

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sure the banks love it when economic activity grinds to a halt.

But but but the banks...but but but the goberment...but but but sheeple.

Virtually every-f**ng-where else is doing it do ye nutters. You can argue the rights and wrongs of the policy, but Ireland is not alone in what is being done, far from it

Well the banks seemed to do alright after the last crisis they seem to weather every storm. If you don't want to question your betters that's up to you to tug your forelock.

[Deleted User]

uli84 wrote: »

Keeping kids out of school environment for 6 months non-stop is total madness (yes i know they’d be off jul-aug anyways)

I’ve been looking at Portugal as they went through all this at similar time as Ireland and I think their approach of opening secondary schools mid-May and Primary in June is very reasonable and something i was personally hoping for in here.

My neighbours’ kid cried when told she wouldn’t be going back before September, I cannot even imagine the situation of kids where there are issues in the household

Portugal peaked about 2 weeks before us, so offsetting their timeline by two weeks takes us to the holidays anyway.

Ginger n Lemon

MOH wrote: »

One thing I've decided from a lot of the attitude to Covid-19 is, to hell with the environment.

I'm not in a high-risk bracket, but I can understand why restrictions are necessary.

But there seems to be tons of younger people whose attitude is since they're not high risk for the disease, why should they be restricted?

By that logic, I'm probably going to be dead before the effects of climate change get really bad. So why should I bother doing anything that's primarily going to benefit other people?

I am not young myself, but we are kind of discussing elderly as "we know whats best for them".

Put yourself in shoes of an 85 year old granddad with 3 grandchildren, he cant hug them now according to govt guidance, there is no indication when he can hug them, and if he asks - he is going to be told "wait for vaccine". This is seriously depressing for any individual. Regardless if they are in good health or bad health.

And unfortunately in our entire human race history we have not developed a vaccine against human corona viruses.

Kermit.de.frog

All we can do is our best to suppress until August/September and hope we don't have to implement some of the restrictions other countries will have to reintroduce.

The more progress we make the more capable we will be at that point.

Cork Boy 53

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I am not young myself, but we are kind of discussing elderly as "we know whats best for them".

Put yourself in shoes of an 85 year old granddad with 3 grandchildren, he cant hug them now according to govt guidance, there is no indication when he can hug them, and if he asks - he is going to be told "wait for vaccine". This is seriously depressing for any individual. Regardless if they are in good health or bad health.

And unfortunately in our entire human race history we have not developed a vaccine against human corona viruses.

You are correct on this point but there has arguably never been the need on a global scale to develop one with anything like the urgency there is now.

[Deleted User]

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Well the banks seemed to do alright after the last crisis they seem to weather every storm. If you don't want to question your betters that's up to you to tug your forelock.

Here's a list of almost 100 banks that failed after the global financial crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banks_acquired_or_bankrupted_during_the_Great_Recession
impacting more than 300,00 financial services jobs in Europe alone