One minister said the briefing had “no good news” with another describing it as “very grim”.Sources said Holohan indicated there would be no easing of restrictions tomorrow.
alwald wrote: » The government/HSE need a couple of weeks to secure a 100K tests a week and reduce the R0 further. Any further restrictions should be adhered to by all, no exception. One way to enforce the restrictions is to stop any type of social welfare benefit to anyone breaking the rules...why should 95% of people risk having these restrictions extended because of a bunch of anti lockdown restriction merchants?
martingriff wrote: » Nope
martingriff wrote: » What the hell is an end of life patient
Stormyteacup wrote: » Nope - I'll say it again, Dr. Cillian De Gasgun said testing capability will have no bearing on easing of restrictions. R0 at 0.5 to 0.8 currently. What are they waiting for?
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Thanks for that. One question, if the testing hasnt increased any near that level in nearly 3 months, how long will is it going to take to reach 100k tests?
bettyoleary wrote: » You could also add in there industries who are flouting the distancing rules because they are putting low payed workers at risk and thus their families and creating new community clusters ie the meat factory. Whats happening to these people.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » No figures exist for real time in hospital. 20k cases are since March. This is primarily affecting terminally ill and end of life. Seasonal influenza effects young people in fare greater numbers. We have no evidence lockdown works. Your sign of statement is ironic tbh
easypazz wrote: » From the NHS: End of life care is support for people who are in the last months or years of their life. End of life care should help you to live as well as possible until you die and to die with dignity. The people providing your care should ask you about your wishes and preferences, and take these into account as they work with you to plan your care. They should also support your family, carers or other people who are important to you. You have the right to express your wishes about where you would like to receive care and where you want to die. You can receive end of life care at home, or in care homes, hospices or hospitals, depending on your needs and preference. People who are approaching the end of life are entitled to high-quality care, wherever they're being cared for. Find out what to expect from end of life care.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » We die at some point. Take any day of the week and its a fate about 1800 people face in Ireland and the UK. So end of life is when someone is near that point
gozunda wrote: » Incorrect. Hospital stats are available on review for each day. All statistics measured at midnight and given for the previous days. See example here Again incorrect. The numbers affected are divided across age ranges and include both young and old. And by that I mean affected and not just deaths. See my previous posts for details if you missed that. We have significant evidence from China, Italy nd other countries that restrictions are effective. Not sure why you chose to deny that tbh.
easypazz wrote: » Fcuk them, they have had enough time. And Leo confirmed in the dail today that it is a lockdown.
We have significant evidence from China, Italy nd other countries that restrictions are effective. Not sure why you chose to deny that tbh.
KrustyUCC wrote: » They still won't be near 100,000 tests a week We've been talking about that since March "Minister for Health Simon Harris has said it is impossible to predict when 15,000 Covid-19 tests a day will be carried out, but he believes it will happen in the next few days."https://www.rte.ie/amp/1124042/ That was on the 19th of March
alwald wrote: » We have one of the highest number of testing per 1M in the EU and more time is needed to ramp up and they will get the extra time.
easypazz wrote: » Like I said fcuk them. Tánaiste Simon Coveney was contacted directly by Keelings before the company flew 189 seasonal workers in from Bulgaria during the Covid-19 lockdown, Independent.ie has confirmed.
sterz wrote: » Did you miss this one, alwald? Still happy to give the government another couple of weeks?
easypazz wrote: » Thats great to hear. They have plenty of people to test considering how good a job they have done spreading the disease.
Stark wrote: » Tell that to the Gardaí. Interpretation is that you're strictly confined to 2km for exercise and allowed to go outside the 2km but only for "essential travel". So you're allowed go over 2km if you don't have a shop nearby or have essential work to go for but not much else.
lawrencesummers wrote: » When it’s being put ahead of people’s health where the risks are simply fatal then YES it is greedy.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » I missed this earlier. How long will it take before people realise this isnt a death sentence? The public broadcaster has done such a disservice to what was once a prosperous welcoming nation. Ivan Yates for Taoiseach, Charlie Bird minister for realism
uli84 wrote: » Even Boris J is making more sense than the Irish team https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-30/government-daily-coronavirus-press-conference-boris-johnson-returns/
lawrencesummers wrote: » Tell that to the families of the deceased.
rubbledoubledo wrote: » Very good point. I have seen the lines in meat factories, shoulder to shoulder. All foreign low paid workers. Would love to see a camera visit these premises and see are the rules being applied
