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VDSL Stats - Whats yours?

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  • #722
    notahappycamper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    dazdrog wrote: »
    yeah i know that mate even when fiber launced first in my area i had magnet with a sync speed of 50/20 (before any crosstalk reducing gear was implemented) with snr's of 6db, perfectly stable.

    i may try them again tomorrow as its been 4 or 5 months since last try. i am on a extended cab tho if that helps, as far as i know its not vectored

    Not sure if that matters. ED E may know. Anyway, give them a shout and see. Try to get through to someone in 2nd levek support if you are getting no where and ask for a rate adaptive profile and if they are against it say look if its unstable I'll ring in and get it reduced and if not happy days! Just ask for Vic in 2nd level support.


  • #723
    notahappycamper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    dazdrog wrote: »
    yeah i know that mate even when fiber launced first in my area i had magnet with a sync speed of 50/20 (before any crosstalk reducing gear was implemented) with snr's of 6db, perfectly stable.

    i may try them again tomorrow as its been 4 or 5 months since last try. i am on a extended cab tho if that helps, as far as i know its not vectored

    Well, any luck getting your profile increased?


  • #724
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    With Fibre they cant just set you higher. Eircom limit it to the prequal value. RA or not, the prequal is the limit.


  • #725
    notahappycamper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    ED E wrote: »
    With Fibre they cant just set you higher. Eircom limit it to the prequal value. RA or not, the prequal is the limit.

    I know, he was getting a higher rate and appears to have been limited now.


  • #726
    dazdrog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭dazdrog


    notahappycamper wrote: »
    Well, any luck getting your profile increased?

    na mate i havnt hd a chance with work, gonna give them a bell tomorrow see what craic is
    ED E wrote: »
    With Fibre they cant just set you higher. Eircom limit it to the prequal value. RA or not, the prequal is the limit.
    notahappycamper wrote: »
    I know, he was getting a higher rate and appears to have been limited now.

    bingo, heres my old line stats when i was with magnet, taken november 2013 (before any crosstalk reducing tech was introduced)

    Line Rate (Down / Up) 50174 Kbps / 20478 Kbps
    Noise Margin (Down / Up) 10.4 dB / 10.3 dB
    Attenuation (Down / Up) 14.3 dB / 5.2 dB
    Power (Down / Up) 12.4 dBm / 1.8 dBm

    3115181141.png

    and right now its

    486e7cca56a4bd6902dd830bcf3c13e9.png


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  • #727
    Mickalus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Mickalus


    Had a trail for eVision there but cancelled it the other day and they changed something in the process.
    Now synching higher than I had before - it was previously set at 70/20, now up at 80/20 but I'm noticing some small droppages in connection while on VPN for work, browsing t'internet and playing some browser based games.

    Here's current stats; anything indicative in these?
    (Attenuation was always high, but never a problem before)
    VDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   VDSL2 Annex B
            VDSL Profile:   Profile 17a
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   1 day: 13 hours: 7 minutes
============================================================================
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:     20.477 Mbps       81.917 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:     20.478 Mbps       81.918 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:        9.2 dB           10.5 dB
            Actual Delay:          0 ms              0 ms
          Transmit Power:        2.8 dBm          14.3 dBm
           Receive Power:      -17.2 dBm          -4.0 dBm
              Actual INP:       29.0 symbols      29.0 symbols
       Total Attenuation:       20.1 dB           18.3 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate:     22.235 Mbps       83.792 Mbps
============================================================================
      VDSL Band Status    U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  5.1    27.4    40.9     N/A    14.2    34.7    53.3   
Signal Attenuation(dB):  5.1    26.8    39.8     N/A    15.9    34.4    53.3   
        SNR Margin(dB):  9.6     9.2     9.2     N/A     9.8     9.8     9.8   
   Transmit Power(dBm):-12.5   - 2.6     1.2     N/A    11.8     8.1     6.9   
============================================================================

            VDSL Counters

           Downstream        Upstream
Since Link time = 7 min 41 sec
FEC:		3422675		743
CRC:		128		0
ES:		116		0
SES:		0		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
Latest 15 minutes time = 2 min 29 sec
FEC:		340		0
CRC:		0		0
ES:		0		0
SES:		0		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:		2039		0
CRC:		1		0
ES:		1		0
SES:		0		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
Latest 1 day time = 20 hours 17 min 29 sec
FEC:		2034359		278
CRC:		67		0
ES:		63		0
SES:		0		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:		3745859		604
CRC:		276		0
ES:		79		0
SES:		4		0
UAS:		103		103
LOS:		1		0
LOF:		3		0
LOM:		0		0
Total time = 1 days 20 hours 17 min 29 sec
FEC:		407488138		52616
CRC:		9247		0
ES:		6012		0
SES:		39		0
UAS:		235		235
LOS:		1		0
LOF:		3		0
LOM:		0		0
============================================================================


  • #728
    Cork981
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Cork981


    Mickalus wrote: »
    Had a trail for eVision there but cancelled it the other day and they changed something in the process.
    Now synching higher than I had before - it was previously set at 70/20, now up at 80/20 but I'm noticing some small droppages in connection while on VPN for work, browsing t'internet and playing some browser based games.

    Here's current stats; anything indicative in these?
    (Attenuation was always high, but never a problem before)
    VDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   VDSL2 Annex B
            VDSL Profile:   Profile 17a
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   1 day: 13 hours: 7 minutes
============================================================================
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:     20.477 Mbps       81.917 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:     20.478 Mbps       81.918 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:        9.2 dB           10.5 dB
            Actual Delay:          0 ms              0 ms
          Transmit Power:        2.8 dBm          14.3 dBm
           Receive Power:      -17.2 dBm          -4.0 dBm
              Actual INP:       29.0 symbols      29.0 symbols
       Total Attenuation:       20.1 dB           18.3 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate:     22.235 Mbps       83.792 Mbps
============================================================================
      VDSL Band Status    U0      U1      U2      U3      D1      D2      D3
  Line Attenuation(dB):  5.1    27.4    40.9     N/A    14.2    34.7    53.3   
Signal Attenuation(dB):  5.1    26.8    39.8     N/A    15.9    34.4    53.3   
        SNR Margin(dB):  9.6     9.2     9.2     N/A     9.8     9.8     9.8   
   Transmit Power(dBm):-12.5   - 2.6     1.2     N/A    11.8     8.1     6.9   
============================================================================

            VDSL Counters

           Downstream        Upstream
Since Link time = 7 min 41 sec
FEC:		3422675		743
CRC:		128		0
ES:		116		0
SES:		0		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
Latest 15 minutes time = 2 min 29 sec
FEC:		340		0
CRC:		0		0
ES:		0		0
SES:		0		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:		2039		0
CRC:		1		0
ES:		1		0
SES:		0		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
Latest 1 day time = 20 hours 17 min 29 sec
FEC:		2034359		278
CRC:		67		0
ES:		63		0
SES:		0		0
UAS:		0		0
LOS:		0		0
LOF:		0		0
LOM:		0		0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:		3745859		604
CRC:		276		0
ES:		79		0
SES:		4		0
UAS:		103		103
LOS:		1		0
LOF:		3		0
LOM:		0		0
Total time = 1 days 20 hours 17 min 29 sec
FEC:		407488138		52616
CRC:		9247		0
ES:		6012		0
SES:		39		0
UAS:		235		235
LOS:		1		0
LOF:		3		0
LOM:		0		0
============================================================================

    SNR seems fine.

    Your fec errorrs are slightly on the high side but should cause any serious drops.

    Is the line re syncing when it drops or is it just the a span connection dropping ?


  • #729
    Mickalus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Mickalus


    Cork981 wrote: »
    SNR seems fine.

    Your fec errorrs are slightly on the high side but should cause any serious drops.

    Is the line re syncing when it drops or is it just the a span connection dropping ?

    Don't know... it's a small drop out, 2-15 seconds typically. Page will come up with a connection error, quick refresh and it's back.

    Link Uptime: 1 day: 13 hours: 7 minutes >> That was the time when I was on the phone to them getting the eVision dropped.


  • #730
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    You're getting bursts of errors, not lost carriers. If it was resyning downtime would be 60-90s on vdsl.

    Have them reprofile you to 70_20.


  • #731
    Mickalus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Mickalus


    ED E wrote: »
    You're getting bursts of errors, not lost carriers. If it was resyning downtime would be 60-90s on vdsl.

    Have them reprofile you to 70_20.

    Called them up the other day, they wanted to troubleshoot some things so left me as is and made some config changes in router.

    A full drop out today, so called back and got it changed there and then to 70_20. They're also going to send out a new and improved Router... ;)


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  • #732
    peking97
    Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭peking97


    Mickalus wrote: »
    They're also going to send out a new and improved Router... ;)

    Any additional info on this?


  • #733
    Mickalus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Mickalus


    peking97 wrote: »
    Any additional info on this?

    not really, he said they have some new boxes with improved Wifi and will ship one out to me.
    Will provide more details when I get it.


  • #734
    Niemoj
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Niemoj


    Mickalus wrote: »
    not really, he said they have some new boxes with improved Wifi and will ship one out to me.
    Will provide more details when I get it.

    Oh interesting, please do!


  • #735
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Its the 659b you're getting, a huawei to replace the zyxel. Dual band wifi is nice. Daycent unit but nothing spectacular.


  • #736
    Niemoj
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Niemoj


    ED E wrote: »
    Its the 659b you're getting, a huawei to replace the zyxel. Dual band wifi is nice. Daycent unit but nothing spectacular.

    Is that the one that's been used on Spark in New Zealand?


  • #737
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Niemoj wrote: »
    Is that the one that's been used on Spark in New Zealand?

    I believe so yes.


  • #738
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    Huawei are really benefitting from this deal with eircom.


  • #739
    Mickalus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Mickalus


    ED E wrote: »
    Its the 659b you're getting, a huawei to replace the zyxel. Dual band wifi is nice. Daycent unit but nothing spectacular.

    Arrived this morning, it is indeed the 659b from Huawei. 'Eircom F2000 modem'
    Haven't plugged it in yet, will do so this evening after work.


  • #740
    Tweaky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Tweaky


    On Vodafone since yesterday and getting the stats below - the one thing i notice is that my modem is not giving me the attainable rates. Looking back through the thread a lot of other Vodafone users are able to see theirs with the same modem HG658C - Any idea how I can get mine to display the attainable rates ??

    Thanks,

    Line standard VDSL2
    Channel type
    None
    Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 50349
    Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 15360
    Downstream SNR (dB) 23.2
    Upstream SNR (dB) 16.4
    Downstream line attenuation (dB) 12.5
    Upstream line attenuation (dB) 6.2
    Downstream output power (dBmV) 14.5
    Upstream output power (dBmV) -1.4
    Downstream CRC 0
    Upstream CRC 0
    Downstream FEC 12
    Upstream FEC 9


  • #741
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    You have to live edit the html to show it, they hide them (which isn't a terrible idea). Search is your friend.


    You'll have a fair bit of room to speed up, nice numbers.


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  • #742
    FastFullBack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    New Vodafone user. Less than 200M to the cab:

    Line standard VDSL2
    Channel type
    None
    Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 102396
    Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 20157
    Downstream SNR (dB) 16.4
    Upstream SNR (dB) 9.2
    Downstream line attenuation (dB) 7.8
    Upstream line attenuation (dB) 2.4
    Downstream output power (dBmV) 14.4
    Upstream output power (dBmV) -15.2
    Downstream CRC 0
    Upstream CRC 0
    Downstream FEC 0
    Upstream FEC 0

    Downstream Attainable data rate (kbit/s) using live edit HTML is 129432

    I thought 100 MB was the max??


  • #743
    Praetorian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,712 ✭✭✭Praetorian


    FastFullBack wrote: »
    New Vodafone user. Less than 200M to the cab:

    Line standard VDSL2
    Channel type
    None
    Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 102396
    Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 20157
    Downstream SNR (dB) 16.4
    Upstream SNR (dB) 9.2
    Downstream line attenuation (dB) 7.8
    Upstream line attenuation (dB) 2.4
    Downstream output power (dBmV) 14.4
    Upstream output power (dBmV) -15.2
    Downstream CRC 0
    Upstream CRC 0
    Downstream FEC 0
    Upstream FEC 0

    Downstream Attainable data rate (kbit/s) using live edit HTML is 129432

    I thought 100 MB was the max??

    my own attainables are also well beyond 100m/bit

    Downstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 125396
    Upstream attainable data rate(kbit/s) 26116

    I can't see Eircom boosting beyond 100m/bit any time soon.


  • #744
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    100Mb max profile, the VDSL2 spec allows for 300Mb when the right freqs are in use. Attains here peak at 140 but they'll never set you to that.


  • #745
    Tweaky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Tweaky


    ED E wrote: »
    You have to live edit the html to show it, they hide them (which isn't a terrible idea). Search is your friend.


    You'll have a fair bit of room to speed up, nice numbers.

    Thanks Ed E - Job done and stats now showing attainables
    This is a direct to exchange line and unvectored


  • #746
    notahappycamper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    Tweaky wrote: »
    Thanks Ed E - Job done and stats now showing attainables
    This is a direct to exchange line and unvectored

    They're great stats. Get on to Vodafone and ask them to bump you up!


  • #747
    Tweaky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Tweaky


    notahappycamper wrote: »
    They're great stats. Get on to Vodafone and ask them to bump you up!

    Got onto Vodafone and they tell me that my line is only capable of 50. That was on the phone. Opened a thread on their talk to forum and they are looking into it. Really thought it would be a straightforward increase when the stats were showing as good as they are.


  • #748
    notahappycamper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    Tweaky wrote: »
    Got onto Vodafone and they tell me that my line is only capable of 50. That was on the phone. Opened a thread on their talk to forum and they are looking into it. Really thought it would be a straightforward increase when the stats were showing as good as they are.

    Show them the screenshot of your line stats that you posted in this thread and tell them your line can take it. If you are getting no where on the phone ask to speak to someone in 2nd level support. I think there is someone called "Ellen" who is a Supervisor there.


  • #749
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    They wont be able to change it until the prequal updates. Give it time.


  • #750
    ComfortKid
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    How do ye find out the distance to cabinet? It doesn't say on speedtest does it?


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  • #751
    dazdrog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭dazdrog


    notahappycamper wrote: »
    Well, any luck getting your profile increased?
    dazdrog wrote: »
    na mate i havnt hd a chance with work, gonna give them a bell tomorrow see what craic is

    old line stats

    486e7cca56a4bd6902dd830bcf3c13e9.png

    Finally after nearly a year my line was re-profiled by eircom, i think they also enabled vectoring on my cab as my downstream snr went from 13db to 18.8 last night. so checked my line on the eircom line checker and it said max speed of 70mb, rang vodafone and got re-profiled from 50/15 to 70/20

    4521947349.png

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